I fear for David Haye tomorrow...

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 11 May 2004, 12:05

I fear he's going to struggle against "King" Arthur Williams. I fear he's going to look as bad as Audley did.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 11 May 2004, 12:06

I fear even worst things than that. I think he could end up being KO'd.

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 11 May 2004, 12:12

have faith people. I don't think his team would have picked this hard a fight so early in Haye's career if they weren't confident in his ability

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 11 May 2004, 12:12

have faith people. I don't think his team would have picked this hard a fight so early in Haye's career if they weren't confident in his ability

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 11 May 2004, 12:16

I fear that Haye won't be able to KO Williams at any stage in the fight and..

Hang on is this a 12 rounder or just an 8 rounder?

Eric the Viking · Post by **Eric the Viking** » 11 May 2004, 12:19

Even with Williams way past his prime, still looks to be a big step up in class for Haye.

Seen Williams a few times in the past year or so on ESPN, and although he still keeps himself in decent physical shape, he's clearly way over the hill - any decently-skilled cruiser with good handspeed has a shot against him. That having been said, he did give O'Neil Bell all he could handle 18 months ago, so maybe he can reach deep down and pull out a little bit of the old King. But I wouldn;t lay money on it.

Did anyone see his recent fight vs. the Russian Tokarev? That should be a pretty good indicator of the current state of his game.

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 11 May 2004, 12:20

Kilburn wrote:I fear that Haye won't be able to KO Williams at any stage in the fight and..

Hang on is this a 12 rounder or just an 8 rounder?

I think it's 8 rounds

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 11 May 2004, 12:24

Kevo wrote:I think it's 8 rounds

All this time I've assumed it was a 12 rounder god knows why, probably because Arthur is such an experienced campaigner and an ex world champ.

I reckon Haye is going to fight boring here, keeping well out of danger just to pick up the name.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 11 May 2004, 12:25

i think its a stupid fight and davids going to get chinned.

talk about over matching a prospect.

wasnt that long ago i watched david nearly kayo some cuban, but then the cuban turned it round on david and once his nose was bloodied he accepted defeat very quickly & gave up.

Matchfixer · Post by **Matchfixer** » 11 May 2004, 12:29

Kilburn wrote:
Kevo wrote:I think it's 8 rounds
All this time I've assumed it was a 12 rounder god knows why, probably because Arthur is such an experienced campaigner and an ex world champ.

I reckon Haye is going to fight boring here, keeping well out of danger just to pick up the name.

I pray he doesn't come out swinging like a lunatic (as seen against Rasani.)

Seriously though, Haye's fights are never boring. This one should be a cracker.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 11 May 2004, 12:34

This fight shouldn't be an 8 rounder, its an exciting contest but it being an 8 rounder favours Haye more than Williams.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 11 May 2004, 12:36

It says 10 rounds on the Boxrec schedule.

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 11 May 2004, 12:43

stujones wrote:I fear even worst things than that. I think he could end up being KO'd.

I will be at ringside tomorrow.

I reckon I might need to put on a pair of goalie gloves to catch Haye's head.

Particularly if he dont keep that left hand up.

I hope i'm wrong, Id love it for Haye to win in style, so that Hobson & Evans Waterman show Warren how its done.

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 11 May 2004, 12:43

overhand_right wrote:i think its a stupid fight and davids going to get chinned.

talk about over matching a prospect.

wasnt that long ago i watched david nearly kayo some cuban, but then the cuban turned it round on david and once his nose was bloodied he accepted defeat very quickly & gave up.

I saw that fight aswell. I think the Cuban's name was Solis, and in all fairness to Haye, he was pretty damn good.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 11 May 2004, 12:50

I can't find any odds on this fight - anyone know if the bookies are offering?
On the face of it a dangerous fight to take so early in his career - could end in disaster. Who's doing Haye's matchmaking these days?

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 11 May 2004, 12:54

MightyWarrior wrote:I can't find any odds on this fight - anyone know if the bookies are offering?
On the face of it a dangerous fight to take so early in his career - could end in disaster. Who's doing Haye's matchmaking these days?

Richard Poxon

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 11 May 2004, 12:57

knockout artist wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:I can't find any odds on this fight - anyone know if the bookies are offering?
On the face of it a dangerous fight to take so early in his career - could end in disaster. Who's doing Haye's matchmaking these days?
Richard Poxon

Is Richard Poxon the "Wolf" lookalike who worked Clinton Woods' corner in the Glen Johnson rematch?

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 11 May 2004, 13:32

i had a great chat with williams and the team

neil r · Post by **neil r** » 11 May 2004, 13:50

if haye struggles tomorrow then it will have been a bad period for three of the highest profile and "brightest prospects" in the UK

Audley looking a crock of shit against francis, Froch looking awful against Adamu in his last outing and now it looks like Haye might struggle.

so for that reason alone i hope haye wins in good form. we could do with a bright prospect who actually shines!

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 11 May 2004, 14:56

bennie wrote:I fear he's going to struggle against "King" Arthur Williams. I fear he's going to look as bad as Audley did.

thats fine, if he wins, but doesn't look to impressive, that tells him he needs to take a step back and not rush things. It's not like Williams is the same level as opponent as Julius, and thats not even in a p4p sense.

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 11 May 2004, 15:15

The Cuban was Olandier Fonte Solis, I think he's the current Heavyweight amatuer champ, almost out as well. Would have been if not for that damn standing count.

I think Haye needs to stop being willing to take a punch just to try and land the perfect counter. Thats what got him in trouble against Mock. Froch has the same problem, I think Froch has the far superior chin though so he can get away with it more. I think he needs to work on his defense, the knockouts will come because of his already heavy hands.

Loftgroov · Post by **Loftgroov** » 11 May 2004, 15:22

stujones wrote:I fear even worst things than that. I think he could end up being KO'd.

Haye will win.

Hardhitters11 · Post by **Hardhitters11** » 11 May 2004, 15:37

ALl your fears are unfounded trust me Haye will win this without too much trouble.

HH

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 11 May 2004, 15:49

stujones wrote:This fight shouldn't be an 8 rounder, its an exciting contest but it being an 8 rounder favours Haye more than Williams.

Haye wanted a 10 rounder but for some reason it was cut to 8

probably a wise thing to do, i dont think he's been beyond 4.

i was discussing Haye with an american fan at another forum. basically just giving him some info. And i realised that IF everything goes according to plan (i.e. Haye beats Williams and then Thomspon) he could be in the world top 10, after only a dozen or so fights!

how rare is that for a brit? for anyone?

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 11 May 2004, 15:59

Williams record is misleading, they were saying his most recent fights were home town robberies, i have also seen a few of williams fight and he does get robbed, in reality he should only have a few defeats on the record

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