allegedly close to signing up Olympics flop Frankie Gavin

[Asterix]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/more-spor ... -20846739/

Promoter allegedly is leading the race to sign Olympic drop-out Frankie Gavin as a pro.

The British promoter is battling with American rival Golden Boy Promotions to add the Birmingham boxer to his professional stable.

Gavin will campaign at light-welterweight after failing to make the lightweight limit just days before the Beijing Games.

Gavin's amateur coach Tommy Chaney said: "We are in heavy negotiations with allegedly and it looks as though that's the way we're going."

[scrap iron]

Why would Gavin's amateur coach be involved in the negotiations, surely Gavin would use a professional coach to train him if he turns over?

[Spud]

Ummmmm - there was me thinking the name in the title should be James Degale ;;-)

[Horse]

Why do they call him an "Olympics flop" instead of "World amateur champion"?

[MightyWarrior]

Why would Gavin's amateur coach be involved in the negotiations, surely Gavin would use a professional coach to train him if he turns over?

Frankie probably has him on board as a trusted consultant I guess.

Good signing for Frank Sr surely, he's taking on a winner, with a big heartbreak backstory to boot, depending how you spin it.

[Datsue]

Why do they call him an "Olympics flop" instead of "World amateur champion"?

Because the casual sports fan/average tabloid reader had never heard of Frankie Gavin until he'd been hyped to go to the olympics; then more heard of him when he dropped out than had heard of him being hyped up (if you see what I mean).

I'm not saying it's a good thing, but surely you can see that the average tabloid sports section reader probably doesn't even know that there's such a thing as a World Amateur Champion or what it entails...

[states]

Why do they call him an "Olympics flop" instead of "World amateur champion"?

Are you not familiar with the press? Tabloids are hardly fussed with the positive. 'Olympics' is bigger than 'World Champion', so they go with the bigger story, rather than the bigger picture.

It's just the way it is. If one of the tabloid journalists asked, say, Chris Hoy for the time, and he didn't know it, it'd be 'Olympic Hero Hoy Is Too Busy For Time'. If they ask Hoy in 2 months time, when the lustre has faded, it'll be 'Olympic Hero Wouldn't Give Me The Time Of Day!!!!' C'est la vie.

[Spud]

In my opinion this is the weakest I have seen Mr Warren and his stable of boxers in years - I have absolutely no doubts he will bounce back and in my opinion he needs to.

I am sure Mr Warren has a number of options up his sleeve he normally does!!!

[split_decision]

Well good on allegedly. Leading the chase for this prospect. I know Golden Boy have had this guy on high priority. Every time you see an interview with schaefer it's Frankie Gavin this, Frankie Gavin that. Give it a rest already, the kid is signing with allegedly, where all the top talent goes.

[twenty six]

Split,
You're not serious are you ?
All the top talent goes to Wazza ?
Let's just quote this week - you mean like Darren Sutherland ??

[twenty six]

Split,
Here's a list of UK top talent.
The game is spot the Wazza boxer.
David Haye, Clinton Woods, Carl Froch, Jamie Moore, Craig Watson, Junior Witter, John Thaxton, Martin Lindsay, Rendell Munroe, Ian Napa.
Put them in weight order to make it easier or you.
Yeah all the top UK talent goes to Wazza, doesn't it ?
Newcomers
Darren Sutherland, George Groves.
By the way he ain't signed Gavin yet ......

[tonyevs]

Most of the top tallent in the country at the moment doesn`t seem to be with Fwank..

But how much more established would they have been under SN if they were given the full Fwank treatment??
Froch would have been a world belt holder many years ago under SN ..

[twenty six]

.... and how many of them got nowhere under Wazza, left, and won titles ??
And that ain't isolated to the list provided.

[beagleboy]

26 must be after that tea boy job with Hayemaker
UK's top talent - Craig Watson and Martin Lindsay instead of Hatton and Calzaghe. DD
I'm surprised he didn't include Curtis Woodhouse

[Chambers2]

Don't do it Frankie

[twenty six]

You're missing the point dog breath.
I don't create the British rankings.
Take a look on this site, and see where Watson and Lindsay are.
In addition have you not noticed that Hatton and Calzaghe are no longer with Wazza ?
I earn far more than any UK Promotor could pay me - but thanks for the career advice.
Answer me this - name the top talent currently with Wazza.

[Brian Moore]

Warren will mainly pin his hopes on Don Broadhurst, Jamie Cox, Kenny Anderson, Nathan Cleverly, Kell Brook and, possibly, Derek Chisora. He also has the likes of Denton Vassel and Tony Bellew and the Walsh brothers. Not a bad selection but I agree that Warren's stable is going through a transitional phase.

I don't know how many of the above fighters are good enough to win a British title and beyond (in the case of Cleverly and Brook) but Warren badly needs some of them to come through.

[Coco]

Frankie will be an excellent addition to FW's stable

[Carbo]

Warren will mainly pin his hopes on Don Broadhurst, Jamie Cox, Kenny Anderson, Nathan Cleverly, Kell Brook and, possibly, Derek Chisora. He also has the likes of Denton Vassel and Tony Bellew and the Walsh brothers. Not a bad selection but I agree that Warren's stable is going through a transitional phase.

I don't know how many of the above fighters are good enough to win a British title and beyond (in the case of Cleverly and Brook) but Warren badly needs some of them to come through.

Is Derek Chisora not doing the paranormal stuff on TV anymore then? God, things have changed since I left; my mate used to love those Most Haunted shows he used to do.