Disgraceful Scen after Elomar Kickett Fight at Central Coast

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yeah HD TOTALLY AGREE! willie was on top, until the hit.
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Hounddog wrote:
Marlin wrote:[
Lets be honest. This is his second loss. He has now been outboxed and KO'd. He went in to this fight "knowing" the result before it happened, he knew he couldn't lose a decision and he got lazy again. As I said, proping a prospect up with a decision when he lost isn't always the best thing for the fighter or the sport. Cool Willie is a good example of that.
Yeah but Marlin i've heard you talk of a lucky punch in the Darchinyan v Mijares thread, if elomars KO victory was not a lucky punch i dont know what is, Elomar was dominated from the bell, Wille droped his hands and paid for it, it's happened in the past with good fighters it will happen again. Willie needs to rematch Elomar before someone else jumps in the ring with Elomar and exposes what little ability Elomar really has.

FLUKE Elomar v Kickett rematch.
Marlin doesn't like Cool willie.
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I know... just needed to say it out loud. I think he's still upset about Superman.
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it wasnt even elomars rowdy lebanese mates that were to blame...it was aboriginal kickett fans causing the rucus

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3k03VW-3jg
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dont blame the aboriginals we seen the lebanese starting a ruckuss...all i can say is kickett needs a rematch now...UPSET OF THE YEAR!!!
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RAB2204 wrote:dont blame the aboriginals we seen the lebanese starting a ruckuss...all i can say is kickett needs a rematch now...UPSET OF THE YEAR!!!
ill be honest, i knew kickett would eventually get exposed, i just didnt think it would come this early.

fidal dropped willie pretty hard last time out and hes tasted the canvas before.

but i too would like to see a rematch
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Just saw the footage on the news. If the incident had never happened it would never have made it on in the first place. How ironic. Well done ya wankers :roll:
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Hounddog wrote:
Marlin wrote:[
Lets be honest. This is his second loss. He has now been outboxed and KO'd. He went in to this fight "knowing" the result before it happened, he knew he couldn't lose a decision and he got lazy again. As I said, proping a prospect up with a decision when he lost isn't always the best thing for the fighter or the sport. Cool Willie is a good example of that.
Yeah but Marlin i've heard you talk of a lucky punch in the Darchinyan v Mijares thread, if elomars KO victory was not a lucky punch i dont know what is, Elomar was dominated from the bell, Wille droped his hands and paid for it, it's happened in the past with good fighters it will happen again. Willie needs to rematch Elomar before someone else jumps in the ring with Elomar and exposes what little ability Elomar really has.

FLUKE Elomar v Kickett rematch.
Elomar lined Kickett up before he hit him. Kickett had him on the back foot but he was not hurt.
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what are peoples thoughts on Jackson asiku getting handed the fight against Ray anton Olarte, Jackson was dropped and wobbled prett easily through out the fight until a couple of points were deducted prematurely for holding. Jackson was clearly beaten in the first 4 rounds and was dropped scores by 1 judge were 60-54.

I dont honestly know why they put these Asian fighters in with prospects or up and comers, if the Asians are'nt allowed to win.
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Hounddog wrote:what are peoples thoughts on Jackson asiku getting handed the fight against Ray anton Olarte, Jackson was dropped and wobbled prett easily through out the fight until a couple of points were deducted prematurely for holding. Jackson was clearly beaten in the first 4 rounds and was dropped scores by 1 judge were 60-54.

I dont honestly know why they put these Asian fighters in with prospects or up and comers, if the Asians are'nt allowed to win.
:witzend:
it's funny. i nearly came on and posted after that fight. I don't know if it was quite as one sided as you make it out, but I think it was close to a draw. Action Jackson was more aggresive, but he didn't land very often. i did not score it anywhere near the judges.
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The prob starts when you get 20 hangers on in the ring after a fight. These guys know nothing about boxing and think their shit dont stink!! I am a passionate boxing fan as we all are. The sport is having a hard enough time competing with MMA and everything else. The NSW boxing commission (if that is their name, sorry) needs to come down hard on the crew involved....Elomar has been involved in too much of this crap and needs to be pulled up on it. I dont blame him personally, he is a fighter! but all the pricks that hang on to him because he wants to fight and you dont, get a life!!!!
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wot concerned me is lomar hhomself seemed to be strirring the pot.seems some of elomars team hahd the decency to check on Kickett and try and quell things.but ahmed seemed to be egging shit on. after seeing that i would like to see this bloke get smashed real bad in his next fight.

as for Kickett.well games not over,but if your chin aint that good and u foght hands down=disaster waiting to happen. seems people get inside hime real easy to. do think he has talent just stops momentarily at THE WRONG time .withouut this being corrected any decent fighter with pop is gonna get him. as for elomar-seemed a bit of a haymaker.

anyway poor form for boxing in general. as i said above. hope he gets neutralised bad next time out.
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Everyone is blaming Elomar for this.. his mates ran in the ring to celebrate the win which is ok but not with that many people, someone on here said they stepped and spat on kickett but they werent really close too him. Billy Hussein went over to kickett and checked to see if he was alright then later he helped him up. On the radio they blamed Elomar and said that his friends started it by throwing kicketts stool.. well if they threw the stool what was kickett sitting on?.

Also JSA you said that Elomar egged it on.. i guess he was but he didnt start it i mean, if your in a ring and people are throwing things at you wouldnt you tell them to come in the ring?

By everyone i dont mean like everyone on here but also people on the radio.
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Auzzie001 wrote:Everyone is blaming Elomar for this.. his mates ran in the ring to celebrate the win which is ok but not with that many people, someone on here said they stepped and spat on kickett but they werent really close too him. Billy Hussein went over to kickett and checked to see if he was alright then later he helped him up. On the radio they blamed Elomar and said that his friends started it by throwing kicketts stool.. well if they threw the stool what was kickett sitting on?.

Also JSA you said that Elomar egged it on.. i guess he was but he didnt start it i mean, if your in a ring and people are throwing things at you wouldnt you tell them to come in the ring?

By everyone i dont mean like everyone on here but also people on the radio.
Billy hussein went over to kickett to help him up before he congratulated elomar.
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This is my first post as I don't usually post on forums but I was at the fight with 2 of my Central Coast mates.
I have been a boxing fan for most of my life, and trained on and off for 15 years and have been going to live boxing shows for nearly 20 years. I have 2 small boys that I would like to get involved in the sport (much to my wifes dismay).
What I witnessed was a total disgrace and left a real bad taste in my mouth. The damage an incident like this does for boxing should not be underestimated. As a father there is no way I would take my children to a boxing match if something like this can happen. It gives anti-boxing people more ammo to have a go at this sport.
I am posting because a few guys are commenting about what happened without actually been there. There was alot that happened that was not shown on fox.
The way "Team Elomar" carried on was disgusting.
They all rushed the ring while Kicket was still out cold. There was no concern showed about his welfare by anyone apart from Billy hussein who tried to stop him getting trampled by the idiots invading the ring.
The crowd took exception to this and started to jeer Elomar and the heroes in the ring.
The Elomar gang then started abusing and spitting at the crowd at ringside. In my opinion that is what started the throwing of objects into the ring. The Elomar team were throwing things back.
Instead of trying to calm things down you have Ahmed Elomar along with his brother Mohammed and guys like Hussy Hussein and Bobby Antonakos along with about 20 other idiots verbally abusing and threatening the crowd - which just made matters worst.
They really stirred the crowd up. All of this continued well after the fox broadcast continued. I also saw the corner chair been thrown into the crowd once Willie had bee rushed out the back. I don't know who chucked it but it was one of team Elomar.
I hope something is done about the behaviour of the Elomar team. They have previous form and if anyone saw the Mohammed Elomar/Matt Powell fight they will know what I am talking about. As to these dickheads that they surround themselves with they need to be banned from fight venues, and apart from the trainers and boxers no one else should be allowed in the ring.
I hope Elomar gets what he deserves and I would love to see Gairy St. Claire give him a boxing lesson.
Sorry for the long first post...but I had to vent :evil:
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good first post, Skull. mate if it takes a couple of paragraphs to vent your spleen, do it mate. I commented sometime back on the matty powell incident and I said them that the weak prick who was at the centre of it all(check the vision and you will know who i'm referring to) should be banned for life. Its not only the family aspect that will suffer from these brawls, at this moment i am putting together a night for some first timers to the L/Heavy title in Melbourne next friday. Limo ride over,good seats and a good night of boxing. I have had 3 cancellations quoting the brawl on foxtel. :evil: :witzend: :evil:
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^^ what a good first post. There are others here who have kids, and feel the same way. it was also the best summary of what happened. Instead of just letting this pass to the keeper, the authorities have to act swiftly and with significant force. it's the only way to deter this sort of farce in the future, and maybe restore some public confidence. Sometimes though, it appears as if the authorities don't care about the sports perception, believing the sport should only be concerned with it's own insular community. the slow death of boxing continues
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unleash06 wrote:good first post, Skull. mate if it takes a couple of paragraphs to vent your spleen, do it mate. I commented sometime back on the matty powell incident and I said them that the weak prick who was at the centre of it all(check the vision and you will know who i'm referring to) should be banned for life. Its not only the family aspect that will suffer from these brawls, at this moment i am putting together a night for some first timers to the L/Heavy title in Melbourne next friday. Limo ride over,good seats and a good night of boxing. I have had 3 cancellations quoting the brawl on foxtel. :evil: :witzend: :evil:
hope you get the numbers back up mate. good luck.
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There were a lot of fighters involved from the Elomar corner, Antonakos, Kazzi, Awad and both Elomars i dont know why anyone mentioned Hussy as i dont think he was involved to be honest. There is going to be a special hearing today or tomorrow and there is bound to be some fighters banned.
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toppity wrote:
Hounddog wrote:
Marlin wrote:[
Lets be honest. This is his second loss. He has now been outboxed and KO'd. He went in to this fight "knowing" the result before it happened, he knew he couldn't lose a decision and he got lazy again. As I said, proping a prospect up with a decision when he lost isn't always the best thing for the fighter or the sport. Cool Willie is a good example of that.
Yeah but Marlin i've heard you talk of a lucky punch in the Darchinyan v Mijares thread, if elomars KO victory was not a lucky punch i dont know what is, Elomar was dominated from the bell, Wille droped his hands and paid for it, it's happened in the past with good fighters it will happen again. Willie needs to rematch Elomar before someone else jumps in the ring with Elomar and exposes what little ability Elomar really has.

FLUKE Elomar v Kickett rematch.
Marlin doesn't like Cool willie.
It deffinently was a lucky punch, But good on him as he was getting the shit beaten out of him until then.
Craig Christian described it as a 1 in a million punch, Apparently Kickett told Craig straight after the fight he wants a rematch as soon as possible. Christian said i might be a blessing in disguise and Kickett can still go on to be a worldchamp.
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The ANBF is talking about investigating the incident and possibly suspending Elomar. They claim that his mates invading the ring caused the problem.
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toppity wrote:
Hounddog wrote:what are peoples thoughts on Jackson asiku getting handed the fight against Ray anton Olarte, Jackson was dropped and wobbled prett easily through out the fight until a couple of points were deducted prematurely for holding. Jackson was clearly beaten in the first 4 rounds and was dropped scores by 1 judge were 60-54.

I dont honestly know why they put these Asian fighters in with prospects or up and comers, if the Asians are'nt allowed to win.
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it's funny. i nearly came on and posted after that fight. I don't know if it was quite as one sided as you make it out, but I think it was close to a draw. Action Jackson was more aggresive, but he didn't land very often. i did not score it anywhere near the judges.
Must be hard for him having so many big fights lined up and then having to fight a six rounder on an undercard...
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I have got to question the security. Where they provided by the venue or the promoter?

Up in Townsville last year I saw a small blue break out at the basketball stadium where they were holding the fights. Security was provided by the venue, but they were more like security guards than bouncers - they were there for nothing more than to have "presence". A short stocky guy in his 50s and a plump middle-aged woman stood idly by until the two wannabe Rockys ran out of steam and separated of their own accord. The so-called security had no intention of getting involved, lest they risk personal injury themselves.

While I accept it is the responsibility of the individual not to act like an idiot or a thug, security plays a vital role in diffusing these situations before they get out of hand and preventing unauthorised personnel from entering the ring.

I have seen many things in boxing over the years, but I can honestly say that this was a first.
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Marlin wrote:
toppity wrote:
Hounddog wrote:what are peoples thoughts on Jackson asiku getting handed the fight against Ray anton Olarte, Jackson was dropped and wobbled prett easily through out the fight until a couple of points were deducted prematurely for holding. Jackson was clearly beaten in the first 4 rounds and was dropped scores by 1 judge were 60-54.

I dont honestly know why they put these Asian fighters in with prospects or up and comers, if the Asians are'nt allowed to win.
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it's funny. i nearly came on and posted after that fight. I don't know if it was quite as one sided as you make it out, but I think it was close to a draw. Action Jackson was more aggresive, but he didn't land very often. i did not score it anywhere near the judges.
Must be hard for him having so many big fights lined up and then having to fight a six rounder on an undercard...
I think the Asiku v Johns match scheduled early this year might have ended very badly for Asiku.
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Yeah but Marlin i've heard you talk of a lucky punch in the Darchinyan v Mijares thread, if elomars KO victory was not a lucky punch i dont know what is, Elomar was dominated from the bell, Wille droped his hands and paid for it, it's happened in the past with good fighters it will happen again. Willie needs to rematch Elomar before someone else jumps in the ring with Elomar and exposes what little ability Elomar really has.

FLUKE Elomar v Kickett rematch.[/quote]



It deffinently was a lucky punch, But good on him as he was getting the shit beaten out of him until then.
Craig Christian described it as a 1 in a million punch, Apparently Kickett told Craig straight after the fight he wants a rematch as soon as
possible. Christian said i might be a blessing in disguise and Kickett can still go on to be a worldchamp.[/quote]

That would be a smart move by kickett and Craig.
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