Hypothetical Match-Up Game

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Tough pick. I honestly can see both sides of the argument. I'm going to go with Tyson by TKO, but it'd be hairy. He might just shit himself at the staredown, & from there, who knows...

Manny Pacquiao vs. Wilfredo Gomez at featherweight...
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I would pick Pacquiou to outwork Gomez en route to a Clear Cut UD Win.
Gomez has his moments but Manny is just Too Relentless.Pressure Pressure Pressure.
Less like a Boxer and More Like a Machine.


Ernie Shavers vs Sam Peter

12 Rounds.

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Shavers knocks him out early. In a rematch, I give Peter a decent chance to pull out a late TKO, as Shavers wasn't as capable as history remembers him. Even so, in a one-off, Peter is unable to get out of the way of that big right hand. Shavers in four, after initially struggling with Peter's size.

Jeff Fenech vs. Marco Antonio Barrera at Featherweight. 15 Rounds... :box:
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MAB promises "a war"; Fenech tells the Mexican "you'll be going home in a body-bag". At nine stone, though, Marco just wants to counter-punch. He is aided in this because Fenech's aggression is somewhat blunted by the extra weight, his reflexes somewhat slowed (just a touch, just a touch), & he ends up rather bemusedly following Barrera around, eating the jab. Then, in the fourteenth, Jeff (more used to the championship distance), rallies, finally breaking through to put a tiring Barrera down heavily. Barrera rises but is belaboured on the ropes for the ref's intervention.

Whew.

Ricardo Lopez versus Humberto "Chiquita" Gonzalez. Lopez of the Sorjaturong annihilation, Gonzalez of the first Carbajal fight. Mexico City bullring. 12 rounds. With maybe some sort of screen up around the crowd to catch all the blood.
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Lopez with just a fraction too much of everything for Gonzalez, who (as he always did) makes it a hell of a scrap, nonetheless. I like Lopez on decision. 8-4, 6-5-1, 7-5, close,but unanimous.

Roberto Duran - "Hands Of Stone" vs. Mickey Walker - "The Toy Bulldog" over 15 rounds at Welter...
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The Duran of 1979-80 outpunches in a close-in fight for a close but clear decision

Nino Benvenuti (1965, WBA, WBC jr. middleweight champion) vs Terry Norris, 15 rounds, Madison Square Garden
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giacomino wrote:The Duran of 1979-80 outpunches in a close-in fight for a close but clear decision

Nino Benvenuti (1965, WBA, WBC jr. middleweight champion) vs Terry Norris, 15 rounds, Madison Square Garden
Benvenuti too live for Norris. At some point, Nino finds Terry's chin and the lights go out.


Benvenuti then goes on to two fights with Mike McCallum (my apologies if this has been done before). One fight is at 154, the other at 160. What happens in each?
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i would pick McCallum by relatively close but clear cut UD decision at 154 and late round tko at 160.fight would be even until McCallum lands the finishing tko barrage in round 11 of the 160 bout.


Ken Buchanan vs Hector Camacho at 135. 8)

15 Rounds.

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Whatever people may say about Camacho's later career, he was a very capable Lightweight. Unfortunately, so was his opponent, & the at times shockingly under-estimated Buchanan flurries & jabs his way to a 9-6 decision on the cards. There should've been a rematch with Duran.

Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Erik Morales --- primes, Featherweight, 12 rounds. Box on! :box:
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:Whatever people may say about Camacho's later career, he was a very capable Lightweight. Unfortunately, so was his opponent, & the at times shockingly under-estimated Buchanan flurries & jabs his way to a 9-6 decision on the cards. There should've been a rematch with Duran.

Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Erik Morales --- primes, Featherweight, 12 rounds. Box on! :box:
Morales was at his best against guys who came at him or stood in front of him, but he's shown signs that he's not so good against fighters who make him take the lead.

I think Marquez's superior boxing/counterpunching ability gives him the edge in this one, on points.


Next up: Jimmy Wilde vs. Benny Lynch.
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My2Sense wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Whatever people may say about Camacho's later career, he was a very capable Lightweight. Unfortunately, so was his opponent, & the at times shockingly under-estimated Buchanan flurries & jabs his way to a 9-6 decision on the cards. There should've been a rematch with Duran.

Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Erik Morales --- primes, Featherweight, 12 rounds. Box on! :box:
Morales was at his best against guys who came at him or stood in front of him, but he's shown signs that he's not so good against fighters who make him take the lead.

I think Marquez's superior boxing/counterpunching ability gives him the edge in this one, on points.


Next up: Jimmy Wilde vs. Benny Lynch.

I think Wilde would win by late Rd Tko.


Vito Anterfermo vs Mustafa Hamsho(79 version of Vito)vs(81 Version of Hamsho) 8)

15 Rounds

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Vito via 14th round KO. Battle of wills. Total number of stitches: over 100

Salvador Sanchez vs Chris John, in Indonesia, 15 rounds
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Sanchez cuts a swathe through John in eight rounds.

Joe Louis (1946) vs. Ezzard Charles (1950)...
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Thats a tough match. I think Louis just edges a win. Charles manages
to give Louis a hard close fight, but the Brown Bomber is able to
catch him several times with good power shots and a crisper jab
than the one he threw when they fought in 1950.

Joe Louis UD 15

James J Jeffries (1899) Vs Jimmy Young (1976) 15 rounds.
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Intriguing affair. Jeffries' size & strength would be an imposing force on Young, who would lose the first three rounds on the back of simply running & not throwing enough. Rounds four-through-nine, however, are a different story. It's Jeffries whose punch output drops, as he struggles to plant his feet against the slippery & cagey Young.

In rounds ten & eleven, Young loses faith in his jab & combinations, however, as his assaults fail to halt Jeffries' march. Advancing with all the reliability of the tide, a crushing left hook to the body puts Young down in the fourteenth, & a strong finish in the final round --- in which Young shows considerably skills & courage to survive --- Jeffries takes a split decision. It would be a bit like the ebb & flow of the recent Margarito-Cotto bout, if you saw that one, Kym. One man wearing the other down, in spite of losing large chunks of the bout in the process.

A double-header --- Chavez vs. Mosley at Lightweight, with a rematch at Welter... 8)
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Chavez wins at LW...115-113 type decision.

Mosely wins at WW...115-112 type decision.

At 140,i'll say Chavez by one point. 8)


James Toney vs Gregorio Peralta

12 Rounds.

Cruiserweight

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Interesting match. This will no doubt have some good spurts
and have some slower moments. I see Toney winning a suprisingly
close decision.

Roy Jones Jr (2002) Vs Henry Cooper (1963) 15 rounds
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Cooper in 63' fought in the 180s, so I'd say Jones via cut-eye stoppage around round 8.

Next:
Pernell Whitaker vs Aaron Pryor, light welterweight, 15 rounds
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Great match. Pryor's whilrwind offense would be (to some) surprisingly difficult for Whitaker to deal with, especially early. We may even see a knockdown in the first four rounds, as Whitaker struggles to deflect Pryor's tremendous onslaught (Pryor was an absolute tiger, when he was on), but, there is a class-divide here --- a divide which, ultimately, would prove the difference.

I see Whitaker pot-shotting Pryor to great frustration in the later rounds, having weathered the storm (Whitaker was tougher & more resolute than some realise) & winning a close, competitive, though clear, UD. A 9-6, 8-7 type decision. Whitaker would win a return match more convincingly.

Alexis Arguello vs. Juan Manuel Marquez at Featherweight, 12 rounds...
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Arguello...his pinpoint and hits-hard-as-a mule punching would win especially at that weight.

Roy Jones Jr. vs Michael Moorer at Lightheavyweight
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It's a match-up mentioned probably more often than any other on this thread, believe it or not. Today, I'll go with the naturally bigger (but less experienced) Moorer by KO in ten rounds, whilst trailing. Today, anyway.

Try this one on for size...

Gerald McClellan vs. Joe Calzaghe at Super-Middle...
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:
Gerald McClellan vs. Joe Calzaghe at Super-Middle...
McClellan is dangerous at all times, and probably scores a knockdown if he finds that right hand home, but I'll favor Calzaghe's all around speed, workrate, and class to overcome the limited and defenseless McClellan.

Calzaghe by clear decision, surviving a few scares along the way.


Next up: Azumah Nelson vs. Alfredo Escalera, jr. lightweights.
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nice match- Nelson takes it points or late k.o Escalera's movement and slipperiness may give the more straight-up Nelson problems early but eventually Nelson's power begins to tell

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Bazooka Limon - Jose Luis Ramirez at lightweight
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I have to favour Limon, in a battle between two underrated fighters.

Diego Corrales vs. John-John Molina at JLW...
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I'd pick Diego by hard fought decision.Both Boxers visit the deck along the way.


Tommy Morrison(1993 version) vs Andrew Golota(1996 version) 8)

12 Rounds.

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