The Last Stand of Ricky Hatton (Merged)

[mark thompson]

Oh for fucks sake, if you lot cant see through Spuds much repeated charade, then you must need your heads examining......

here we go again!!!

Get a room you 2, your boring us now

[Spud]

Stay on topic please people or I'm locking the thread.

No problems - apologies!!

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

Edited by mod.

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

apologies gent, didn't see the warning......

[Spud]

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[Dioufy]

How would people see Hatton/Ngoudjo and Hatton/N'Dou going just out of interest?

[Poncey]

Guys, pretty please.

[chesh]

I wasn't even replying to you so I apoligise if you thought I was replying to you. The Guzman remark was because I skimmed through some posts and thought someone had made a comparison between Hatton and Joan - if I was wrong I apoligise again.

It will be a pain not having someone in to supervise his diet, weight and weight training. I don't know if someone from Mayweather's camp has took over that role - I assume not because I haven't heard anything. He does need someone there though, you're right.

Sorry, Dioufy, I was jumping to conclusions there!

[Dioufy]

I misread your comment about Guzman, so it's my mistake and I apoligise.

[whatashambles]

It sounded like the N'Dou fight against Cintron at the weekend was a pretty ugly one. I'm not overly concerned by Malignaggi's performances against him and Ngoudjo, it reminds me of Calzaghe against Bika, that was a fight Calzaghe was never going to look good in.
I think the most important question though is.....


Who is the referee????

[Chambers2]

Excellent posts Spud. Good to have you back

[jeej]

I can understand why Ricky would feel a bit despondent after the PBF fight. Sure PBF was the best around, but Ricky genuinely thought he had the tools to beat him.

When you have won every single fight you've had and you've been hyped up again and again, you're gonna believe and buy into the hype surrounding yourself. I mean, every time you step in the ring you win, so it must be deserved, right? Then you get put on your arse and beaten. Doesn't matter if you were fighting mini-me or superman, that's gonna hurt big time.

Exactly the same thing happened with Naz. He came back and had a comeback fight and was largely disappointing. Only thing there was he never came back again after that and still had plenty left to offer boxing. What can Ricky do? Regain the light welter title, defend it a few times? There's nothing left. He got to the top and failed. The guy he lost to has retired and Ricky now looks to be on the downward slope.

[hitman_hatton1]

What can Ricky do? Regain the light welter title, defend it a few times? There's nothing left. He got to the top and failed. The guy he lost to has retired and Ricky now looks to be on the downward slope.

i disagree with that.

he's mentioned as the main man for the winner of oscar-pac.

despite what some of us think about the fight it's gonna be a serious biggy.

the last fight was faily good i thought.

he just got a bit carried away at times and got careless defensively.

lazcano was never gonna be easy cos of his ability to soak em up.

i fully expect hatton to win and win well against malignaggi.

malignaggi will pose a few problems but not enuff of them to beat hatton.

[hitman_hatton1]

Anyone think Malignaggi could stop him on cuts?

If the rumours of him struggling to make weight are true, it's possible.

hatton has never failed to make weight.

he's had a long camp and won't have any problems this time round.

[coneye]

Can't see him not making weight, he is a profesional and will know what too do , On top off that he has too much to lose he beats Paulie and his next one will be winner off Oscar and pacman , that will be absolutly MASSIVE money . Then retirement , just cannot see him blowing it on weight issues. Confidence issuses well thats another thing Time will tell , just cannot help but think the more he tries to become a boxer in this fight the more Paulie outboxes him . personally I think in this fight he just has to go back to agresion cut him down and chop him down . he'll probably do it has well because Paulie definetly don't hit has hard has Floyd

[split_decision]

It sounded like the N'Dou fight against Cintron at the weekend was a pretty ugly one. I'm not overly concerned by Malignaggi's performances against him and Ngoudjo, it reminds me of Calzaghe against Bika, that was a fight Calzaghe was never going to look good in.
I think the most important question though is.....


Who is the referee????

Kenny Bayless, Micky Vann is busy apparently.

[johnswan1]

When he moved up weight to fight Luis Collazo (and try to gain more recognition in the US)... They ciriticised himj, saying he was not the same fighter at Welterweight...
(despite 3 judges scored it 119- 109)

What judges were they? You and a couple of male prostitutes you hired out for the night? The judges at ringside scored it a unanimous decision, but with scores of 115-112, 115-112 & 114-113.

[johnswan1]

Anyone think Malignaggi could stop him on cuts?

If the rumours of him struggling to make weight are true, it's possible.

Yes, because everybody knows there is a high correlation between fighters who struggle to make weight and those whom get stopped on cuts.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Hatton doesn't have Kerry Kayes on board now, which could be a factor in making weight - is Hatton going to be able to do it alone? Maybe he can, but he may miss the advice.

[Ketchel_2008]

Seems to be a big discussion as to the effect of losing Kerry kayes from the camp, for me i think it could work in his favour. Hattons a natural strong lad whos body obviously responds well to weight training, but post Kosta hes always looked like hes forgotten his main attributes (jab and coming in at angles) to basically rush, punch, maul and try and exert his extra strength. Maybe working with Kerry whos fantastic at building up and cutting bodybuilders wasnt the best training method for a boxer. I sincerely hope a move to Floyd senior is a positive and hatton can have a couple more exciting fights throwing punches rather than mauling whether you think hattons a charlatan, arsehole, satan.
One final thing for Jeej, thats the problem with boxing, fans like you just because he lost to the best he should retire ???? please see UFC, guys win lose and fight another day.

Oh and hello, be nice its my first day

[Spud]

Seems to be a big discussion as to the effect of losing Kerry kayes from the camp, for me i think it could work in his favour. Hattons a natural strong lad whos body obviously responds well to weight training, but post Kosta hes always looked like hes forgotten his main attributes (jab and coming in at angles) to basically rush, punch, maul and try and exert his extra strength. Maybe working with Kerry whos fantastic at building up and cutting bodybuilders wasnt the best training method for a boxer. I sincerely hope a move to Floyd senior is a positive and hatton can have a couple more exciting fights throwing punches rather than mauling whether you think hattons a charlatan, arsehole, satan.
One final thing for Jeej, thats the problem with boxing, fans like you just because he lost to the best he should retire ???? please see UFC, guys win lose and fight another day.

Oh and hello, be nice its my first day

Anyone who treats the losing of Kerry Kayes lightly from Team Hatton I honestly cannot fathom out - and your comments concerning buidling up and cutting bodybuilders I am afraid tells me you are ignorant to the facts of what Kayes meant to Ricky Hatton - or if are you are in any way involved with Team Hatton your comments are a rather sad attempt to water down the fantastic work Kerry Kayes did for Ricky.

With regards to one of your final points - It is my opinion Ricky Hatton did not just lose against Mayweather he got schooled by him - and yes before anyone says I actually stated to Ricky and on this and any other forum I did not think Ricky should face Mayweather until his very last fight as I thought there would be only one result. At the time I got a playful tap in the ribs from a member of Team Hatton and a decent debate then ensued!!!

Ricky has done absolutely fabulous for himself and British boxing - no one should forget that - but other than monetary motivation I simply cannot understand why on earth he would want to get into the ring again - against Floyd Mayweather.

Hatton and his fans should think about the fight this Saturday - it is a tough one for Hatton - if he comes through for me it will be his best ever victory and yes that includes KT - I say this because I honestly believe Hatton will never be the same again from his best days.

[Coco]

Seems to be a big discussion as to the effect of losing Kerry kayes from the camp, for me i think it could work in his favour. Hattons a natural strong lad whos body obviously responds well to weight training, but post Kosta hes always looked like hes forgotten his main attributes (jab and coming in at angles) to basically rush, punch, maul and try and exert his extra strength. Maybe working with Kerry whos fantastic at building up and cutting bodybuilders wasnt the best training method for a boxer. I sincerely hope a move to Floyd senior is a positive and hatton can have a couple more exciting fights throwing punches rather than mauling whether you think hattons a charlatan, arsehole, satan.
One final thing for Jeej, thats the problem with boxing, fans like you just because he lost to the best he should retire ???? please see UFC, guys win lose and fight another day.

Oh and hello, be nice its my first day

Anyone who treats the losing of Kerry Kayes lightly from Team Hatton I honestly cannot fathom out - and your comments concerning buidling up and cutting bodybuilders I am afraid tells me you are ignorant to the facts of what Kayes meant to Ricky Hatton - or if are you are in any way involved with Team Hatton your comments are a rather sad attempt to water down the fantastic work Kerry Kayes did for Ricky.

With regards to one of your final points - It is my opinion Ricky Hatton did not just lose against Mayweather he got schooled by him - and yes before anyone says I actually stated to Ricky and on this and any other forum I did not think Ricky should face Mayweather until his very last fight as I thought there would be only one result. At the time I got a playful tap in the ribs from a member of Team Hatton and a decent debate then ensued!!!

Ricky has done absolutely fabulous for himself and British boxing - no one should forget that - but other than monetary motivation I simply cannot understand why on earth he would want to get into the ring again - against Floyd Mayweather.

Hatton and his fans should think about the fight this Saturday - it is a tough one for Hatton - if he comes through for me it will be his best ever victory and yes that includes KT - I say this because I honestly believe Hatton will never be the same again from his best days.

Perhaps Ricky wanted to test himself against the best in the world, otherwise he may have gone to the grave thinking what if.......

[DG.]

What can Ricky do? Regain the light welter title, defend it a few times? There's nothing left. He got to the top and failed. The guy he lost to has retired and Ricky now looks to be on the downward slope.

i disagree with that.

he's mentioned as the main man for the winner of oscar-pac.

despite what some of us think about the fight it's gonna be a serious biggy.

the last fight was faily good i thought.

he just got a bit carried away at times and got careless defensively.

lazcano was never gonna be easy cos of his ability to soak em up.

i fully expect hatton to win and win well against malignaggi.

malignaggi will pose a few problems but not enuff of them to beat hatton.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Will you never stop?

[G-man]

Last question here from me about it - was their breakup amicable on was there a bit of flack from getting rid of Graham? Kayes seems like a loyal guy and got on well with Billy so did he leave because of Graham's departure or because Hatton wanted rid?

It's my understanding he left cos of his closeness to Billy but he's told Rick he's on the end of the phone should he need any advice and Ricky has still been using his products for this fight.

[Spud]

Last question here from me about it - was their breakup amicable on was there a bit of flack from getting rid of Graham? Kayes seems like a loyal guy and got on well with Billy so did he leave because of Graham's departure or because Hatton wanted rid?

It's my understanding he left cos of his closeness to Billy but he's told Rick he's on the end of the phone should he need any advice and Ricky has still been using his products for this fight.

What about the logo on his shorts?? ;;-)

Or is Kerry being asked to pay for that ?