Oscar De La Chicken Tikka Anna Kourni V Pacman 24/7 (merged)

[Phenomenal-Nutrition]

Sometimes its nice to have a Brit chat about a big international fight without noise polution from American's

[Poncey]

That's what Current Scene is for. I promise you they won't bite. People moan about that forum being shit, well go on there and make it better!

[DavidPayne]

Too fkking right P-N.

I really, really, really dont want to have battle the weeds in the current scene when all any of us really wanna do is discuss the fight among people and opinions we know and respect.

Its insane to close the border of subject I think.

[Poncey]

Shall I ask Shep to change the title of the forum to "Boxing" then?

[Phenomenal-Nutrition]

How about changing titles to 'The Superior British fans opinions of De La Hoya vs Pacquaio?' or if that doesn't work 'British fans opinions of De La Hoya vs Pacquaio? and Khan sparring Pacman' - to go off topic and not talk about Khan D

[DavidPayne]

I know what you mean Em.

I do think special events like DLH v Pac merit some attention without diluting focus, if I tailor the thread title to lead the winner or loser to Hatton or link Pac to Khan in sparring or Golden Boy Promotions to David Haye does it become a British Boxing topic?

Hang on....I just realised none of this matters.

Tra.

[Poncey]

It would be nice if people had the same enthusiasm about promising British fighters that they have for the big American fights, to create threads about the likes of Scott Quigg as an example. Local fighters not all of us are aware of. Share the knowledge and all that.

Instead we got 5 O/T threads, at least one about a retired fighter (even worse, recently we had an American retired fighter thread), 5 different ones about Hatton (1 - what pants did he wear, 2 how much did he weigh, 3 how much did he get paid, 4 the actual fight, 5 what for the future) which all turn into the same thing - how good or shit he is. We must have at least 2 going about Khan, surely. That's the rule.

There's already a bleedin' 24/7 thread by DG. I wonder if people ever actually check there's an exsiting thread before creating a new one.

[DavidPayne]

I was thinking of starting a thread about starting threads without checking but then.....

[Wax On]

I was going to start a thread about DLHs weight. He was 155 at the start of the second episode of 24/7. I think everything is going to plan with the weight and he is going to be comfortable at 147.

However the last time someone made a thread that wasn't related to UK boxing (the phillips vs Paul Williams thread) it was moved to the current scene. Are we allowed to talk about the Pacman DLH fight in this section or will this be moved to the current scene?

Some of the shit they were doing with Oscar was Ivan Drago like!! Talk about leaving no stone unturned. Electronic muscle stimulus (or whatever they called it) and a team of dieticians, hand wrappers, trainers, assistant trainers, training manager, advisor (Angelo Dundee) etc etc as large as 30 strong.

ODLH is clearly trying to emulate the success of Bolton Wanderers by building such a large support staff I hear Big Sam is his cut man.

Manny on the other hand just has a team of 10 Phillipino mates to keep him company, cook for him and play darts with him, and Freddie Roach.

[Poncey]

Tell you what, you can natter about US fights but if you create multiple threads saying slightly different things, I'm merging their asses! I'll even create a Phillips v Williams one especially for search.

So please use DGs thread about Pacman v DLH, though.

[stujones]

I wish the forum wouldn't be tampered with - as has been said, I love read Terry D's, James Mc, Ian's views on the likes of Scott Lawton etc but I am more interested in what they have to say about DLH, Pacquiao, Fab 4, Tyson etc.

This forum has done fine mixing UK, US, European and Asian fights/fighters in the past - I don't think we should be focusing on moving just because it doesn't involve a Brit - especially if the show/fight is shown in the UK.

[stujones]

Some of the shit they were doing with Oscar was Ivan Drago like!! Talk about leaving no stone unturned. Electronic muscle stimulus (or whatever they called it) and a team of dieticians, hand wrappers, trainers, assistant trainers, training manager, advisor (Angelo Dundee) etc etc as large as 30 strong.

ODLH is clearly trying to emulate the success of Bolton Wanderers by building such a large support staff I hear Big Sam is his cut man.

Manny on the other hand just has a team of 10 Phillipino mates to keep him company, cook for him and play darts with him, and Freddie Roach.

Yep, looks like DLH is going back to his old ways of preparation.... which I greatly admire and part of the reason I am such a fan. It is so proffesional, reading his regime it seemed like "well all he needs to do is turn up for fight night and he'll win"

He even has been taking vitamins in an attempt to prevent the onset of dimensia and parkinson since he turned pro!

[jamesmcdonnell]

I wish the forum wouldn't be tampered with - as has been said, I love read Terry D's, James Mc, Ian's views on the likes of Scott Lawton etc but I am more interested in what they have to say about DLH, Pacquiao, Fab 4, Tyson etc.

This forum has done fine mixing UK, US, European and Asian fights/fighters in the past - I don't think we should be focusing on moving just because it doesn't involve a Brit - especially if the show/fight is shown in the UK.

Aww shucks...

[stujones]

I wish the forum wouldn't be tampered with - as has been said, I love read Terry D's, James Mc, Ian's views on the likes of Scott Lawton etc but I am more interested in what they have to say about DLH, Pacquiao, Fab 4, Tyson etc.

This forum has done fine mixing UK, US, European and Asian fights/fighters in the past - I don't think we should be focusing on moving just because it doesn't involve a Brit - especially if the show/fight is shown in the UK.

Aww shucks...

Haha - group hug, James!

Your the only one who partially backs me up in some of my debates!!!!! So I had to include you!

[bennie]

Antonio Margarito, one of the world's leading pound-for-pound fighters, takes on Los Angeles veteran Shane Mosley in Las Vegas on January 24.
At stake is Margarito's WBA welterweight title.
The rugged Mexican won the title with a dazzling 11-round stoppage of Miguel Cotto in Las Vegas in the summer, showing all his renowned strength and stamina to walk through the talented, prolific-punching Puerto Rican until Cotto, who went in unbeaten in 32 fights, could punch no more and dropped to his knees, the very picture of defeat.
Margarito has a fantastic chin, probably boxing's best since Marvin Hagler, but his iron-jawed, iron-willed, iron man reputation took a knock in recent months with his refusal to face Paul Williams on the Mosley date, the slick American southpaw who outsmarted him over 12 rounds last year and has built on his win impressively. Margarito, 30, no doubt wants a couple of easier fights first but he needs to face Williams - and soon - if he is to retain the respect of the boxing world and his own Tijuana people. Beating Mosley, a 37-year-old who lost to Cotto last November, is not going to do that.
Mosley proved competitive against Cotto in Madison Square Garden, before conceding a close but unanimous decision. He came back with a knockout of Nicaraguan wild man Ricardo Mayorga with one second remaining of their 12-rounder a few months ago (shades of Galindez-Kates), to make sure of a fight in which one judge had him behind at the finish. Sounds good, but the Mayorga affair lacked quality - both men looked wide open, both men looked their years (a combined 71). It was a maul.
There were inevitable calls for Mosley to retire.
"Sugar" Shane first made his name in sparring sessions with Julio Cesar Chavez in the late 1980s and proved he was no flash in the pan when he twice edged past Oscar De La Hoya in major world title fights, although the second win came five years ago and marked the very pinnacle of Mosley's long career. Since then, Mosley has been largely climbing down and lost twice to fellow 37-year-old Winky Wright at light-middleweight. Mosley is a muscular fellow, quick, clever and powerful. Like Margarito, he is huge for welterweight and possesses a great chin. Mosley copped plenty of right-handers from the heavy handed Mayorga in September without budging and has never been stopped in 51 fights, although Vernon Forrest, another of his bogeymen, floored him twice and nearly stopped him in their January 2002 encounter (Forrest has licked him twice in the pros and also licked him in the 1992 US Olympic trials).
Nonetheless, the struggle with Mayorga, a crude braggart of a fighter outclassed and embarrassed by De La Hoya two years ago, is probably the worst we have seen of Mosley, even in victory, while Margarito's pounding of Cotto is probably the best we have seen of the champion. He looked remorseless.
The difference says it all. Margarito looks too big, too strong - too fresh - for the challenger.

[stujones]

I wish the forum wouldn't be tampered with - as has been said, I love read Terry D's, James Mc, Ian's views on the likes of Scott Lawton etc but I am more interested in what they have to say about DLH, Pacquiao, Fab 4, Tyson etc.

This forum has done fine mixing UK, US, European and Asian fights/fighters in the past - I don't think we should be focusing on moving just because it doesn't involve a Brit - especially if the show/fight is shown in the UK.

I've a fair bit to say about Oscar myself, when I have the time!

As long as it doesn't get daft then why not include US fights? Just merge strands, as we tend to get duplicate ones.

I think we could do with a few more gritty small hall fighter strands, but they tend to be quite small and fast sinking, nature of the beast I suppose.

Ps I think you are mad for your De La Hoya views, and that you should be locked away.

You aint the first, and you won't be the last!

[Chambers2]

I fancy Pacman to beat Oscar on points at 7/2, anyone else been tempted?

[Poncey]

I wish the forum wouldn't be tampered with - as has been said, I love read Terry D's, James Mc, Ian's views on the likes of Scott Lawton etc but I am more interested in what they have to say about DLH, Pacquiao, Fab 4, Tyson etc.

This forum has done fine mixing UK, US, European and Asian fights/fighters in the past - I don't think we should be focusing on moving just because it doesn't involve a Brit - especially if the show/fight is shown in the UK.

1 - BOTP is a much better forum for discussing past fighters.

2 - Williams v Phillips isn't even being shown in the UK.

3 - There was already a DLH v Pacman thread.

You just wanted another DLH. I know your game Mr Jones.

[Goz]

I think it's good to talk about important world fights on here even if they don't involve a British fighter, I've always enjoyed it anyway...

24/7 is so cheesy - I watched it today and came away wanting neither to lose because they are just lovely family guys....

[jamesmcdonnell]

I wish the forum wouldn't be tampered with - as has been said, I love read Terry D's, James Mc, Ian's views on the likes of Scott Lawton etc but I am more interested in what they have to say about DLH, Pacquiao, Fab 4, Tyson etc.

This forum has done fine mixing UK, US, European and Asian fights/fighters in the past - I don't think we should be focusing on moving just because it doesn't involve a Brit - especially if the show/fight is shown in the UK.

Aww shucks...

Haha - group hug, James!

Your the only one who partially backs me up in some of my debates!!!!! So I had to include you!

The phrase damning with faint praise springs to mind. Partially Stu, partially.

[stujones]

I wish the forum wouldn't be tampered with - as has been said, I love read Terry D's, James Mc, Ian's views on the likes of Scott Lawton etc but I am more interested in what they have to say about DLH, Pacquiao, Fab 4, Tyson etc.

This forum has done fine mixing UK, US, European and Asian fights/fighters in the past - I don't think we should be focusing on moving just because it doesn't involve a Brit - especially if the show/fight is shown in the UK.

1 - BOTP is a much better forum for discussing past fighters.

2 - Williams v Phillips isn't even being shown in the UK.

3 - There was already a DLH v Pacman thread.

You just wanted another DLH. I know your game Mr Jones.

I think Williams vs Phillips does have some impact on the UK fighters - I would give Moore/Rhodes some chance against Phillips and this fight has also oponent up some belt. Cause hasn't Phillips vacated his orinigal belt, this is for the interim WBO title.

Fair point - I think we can discuss various aspects of the DLH vs Pac fight on different threads...e.g. 1) On the fight... 2)24/7 prog..... 3) Historical signifance.... but I do agree it was getting a bit overloaded.

I think the BOTP forum isn't to "alive" when you talk about recently retired fighters.

[stujones]

The phrase damning with faint praise springs to mind. Partially Stu, partially.

only joking james, like reading your stuff

[stujones]

Has the 2nd one been on yet? Sky are absolutely shit, how hard would it be to get a 2/4 on the info for the programme?

Yes, its been on - I think the last repeat was this morning.... I missed it also

[Poncey]

Has the 2nd one been on yet? Sky are absolutely shit, how hard would it be to get a 2/4 on the info for the programme?

Yes, its been on - I think the last repeat was this morning.... I missed it also

There's one next Friday before the boxing. Not sure if it's the 4th or 3rd, though.