This thread is dedicated to a Heavyweight Tournament I am making... (another one you say )...
However this thread includes only the fighters who have held THE World Title...
(nowadays I included the WBC, WBO, WBA & IBF)...
In other words the great contenders of the past who NEVER became Heavyweight World Champagne will not be included: This includes:
Tom Sharkey
Billy Conn
Archie Moore
Jerry Quarry or
Ernie Shavers
Despite the arguments that could be made about them being "good enough" to be in it.
There is a deadline to which I took the boxers... ANY boxer who has won any of the 4 titles after the year 2000 will NOT be entered...
Say goodnight to:
Wladmir Klitchsko
Chris Byrd
John Ruiz
The tournament will have a seeding system... And the seeds will be chosen from their accomplishments while being the Champion.
(in other words, I'm only counting boxers achievments after they win the world title...
A boxer may have won 1000 fights... (But they don't count)... Then he wins the world title and loses his first defence...
He will go down in my records at 0 title defences...
If a fighter has won world titles at multiple weights if does not egister in the tournament, only his HEAVYWEIGHT record will be counted.
There are 54 boxers in my list... However, only top 32 boxers will enter my Heavyweight tournment.
*Draws (as champion) do not count as successful title defences...*
*Fighter known as "paper champions" are called so, because they never beat the previous champion for the title*
The the tournament will have 32 boxers... Who are split into 8 groups of 4... There will be 4 pots of seedings to divide the more succesful boxers during the 1st draw... The top 2 boxers of each group go through.
15 rounders.
3 knockdown rule is in operation.
At the event of a draw, the decision goes to the referee.... HENCE, draws CANNOT happen...
Past Heavyweight Champions Tournament:
Past Heavyweight Champions Tournament:
Last edited by Crease on 01 Dec 2008, 15:12, edited 2 times in total.
Re: Past Heavyweight Champions Tournament:
The names of those who did NOT make it into the top 32:
33. Francesco Damiani - 1 defence (paper champion) *1st WBO champion*
34. = Bob Fitzsimmons - 1 defence (paper champion)
= Max Schmeling - 1 defence (paper champion)
= Jimmy Ellis - 1 defence (paper champion)
= Pinklon Thomas - 1 defence (paper champion)
= Tommy Morrison - 1 defence (paper champion)
39. = Jack Sharkey - 0 defences
= Max Baer - 0 defences
= James J. Braddock - 0 defences
= Ingemar Johansson - 0 defences
= Leon Spinks - 0 defences
= Trevor Berbick - 0 defences
= John Tate - 0 defences
= Gerrie Coetzee - 0 defences
= Greg Page - 0 defences
= Tony Tubbs - 0 defences
= James "Buster" Douglas - 0 defences
= Frank Bruno - 0 defences
= Michael Bentt - 0 defences
53. = Marvin Hart - 0 defences (paper champion)
= Tony Tucker - 0 defences (paper champion)
= Michael Moorer - 0 defences (paper champion)
33. Francesco Damiani - 1 defence (paper champion) *1st WBO champion*
34. = Bob Fitzsimmons - 1 defence (paper champion)
= Max Schmeling - 1 defence (paper champion)
= Jimmy Ellis - 1 defence (paper champion)
= Pinklon Thomas - 1 defence (paper champion)
= Tommy Morrison - 1 defence (paper champion)
39. = Jack Sharkey - 0 defences
= Max Baer - 0 defences
= James J. Braddock - 0 defences
= Ingemar Johansson - 0 defences
= Leon Spinks - 0 defences
= Trevor Berbick - 0 defences
= John Tate - 0 defences
= Gerrie Coetzee - 0 defences
= Greg Page - 0 defences
= Tony Tubbs - 0 defences
= James "Buster" Douglas - 0 defences
= Frank Bruno - 0 defences
= Michael Bentt - 0 defences
53. = Marvin Hart - 0 defences (paper champion)
= Tony Tucker - 0 defences (paper champion)
= Michael Moorer - 0 defences (paper champion)
Re: Past Heavyweight Champions Tournament:
THE TOP 32:
1. Joe Louis - 25 defences (retired champion)
2. Muhammad Ali - 19 defences (3 time champion)
3. Larry Holmes - 19 defences *1st IBF champion*
4. Lennox Lewis - 13 defences (1 draw) - (3 time champion)
5. Mike Tyson - 10 defences (2 time champion)
6. Tommy Burns - 10 defences (1 draw)
7. Joe Frazier - 9 defences (paper champion)
8. Evander Holyfield - 8 defences (1 draw) - (3 time champion)
9. Ezzard Charles - 8 defences
10. Floyd Patterson - 6 defences (2 time champion)- (paper champion 1st time around)
11. = James J. Jeffries - 6 defences (retired champion)
11. = Rocky Marciano - 6 defences (retired champion)
13. Jack Johnson - 6 defences (1 draw)
14. Jack Dempsey - 5 defences
15. Vitali Klitchsko - 3 defences (3 time champion)
16. = George Foreman - 3 defences (2 time champion)
16. = Riddick Bowe - 3 defences (2 time champion)
18. Herbie Hide - 2 defences (2 time champion)
19. Gene Tunney - 2 defences (retired champion)
20. Ernie Terrell - 2 defences (paper champion) *1st WBA Champion*
21. = Primo Carnera - 2 defences
= Michael Spinks - 2 defences
= Mike Weaver - 2 defences
= Henry Akinwande - 2 defences
25. James J. Corbett - 1 defence (retired champion)
26. Tim Witherspoon - 1 defence (2 time champion) - (paper champion first time round)
27. Michael Dokes - 1 defence (1 draw)
28. = Jess Willard - 1 defence
= Jersey Joe Walcott - 1 defence
= Sonny Liston - 1 defence
= Oliver McCall - 1 defence
= Ray Mercer - 1 defence
*From the list above it is clear to see that only boxers who have won the World Heavyweight title and had (at least) one title defence can qualify.
1. Joe Louis - 25 defences (retired champion)
2. Muhammad Ali - 19 defences (3 time champion)
3. Larry Holmes - 19 defences *1st IBF champion*
4. Lennox Lewis - 13 defences (1 draw) - (3 time champion)
5. Mike Tyson - 10 defences (2 time champion)
6. Tommy Burns - 10 defences (1 draw)
7. Joe Frazier - 9 defences (paper champion)
8. Evander Holyfield - 8 defences (1 draw) - (3 time champion)
9. Ezzard Charles - 8 defences
10. Floyd Patterson - 6 defences (2 time champion)- (paper champion 1st time around)
11. = James J. Jeffries - 6 defences (retired champion)
11. = Rocky Marciano - 6 defences (retired champion)
13. Jack Johnson - 6 defences (1 draw)
14. Jack Dempsey - 5 defences
15. Vitali Klitchsko - 3 defences (3 time champion)
16. = George Foreman - 3 defences (2 time champion)
16. = Riddick Bowe - 3 defences (2 time champion)
18. Herbie Hide - 2 defences (2 time champion)
19. Gene Tunney - 2 defences (retired champion)
20. Ernie Terrell - 2 defences (paper champion) *1st WBA Champion*
21. = Primo Carnera - 2 defences
= Michael Spinks - 2 defences
= Mike Weaver - 2 defences
= Henry Akinwande - 2 defences
25. James J. Corbett - 1 defence (retired champion)
26. Tim Witherspoon - 1 defence (2 time champion) - (paper champion first time round)
27. Michael Dokes - 1 defence (1 draw)
28. = Jess Willard - 1 defence
= Jersey Joe Walcott - 1 defence
= Sonny Liston - 1 defence
= Oliver McCall - 1 defence
= Ray Mercer - 1 defence
*From the list above it is clear to see that only boxers who have won the World Heavyweight title and had (at least) one title defence can qualify.
Re: Past Heavyweight Champions Tournament:
1st pot: (top seeds)
Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali
Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis
Mike Tyson, Tommy Burns
Joe Frazier, Evander Holyfield
2nd pot: (2nd seeds)
Ezzard Charles, Floyd Patterson
James J. Jeffries, Rocky Marciano
Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey
Vitali Klitchsko, George Foreman
3rd pot: (3rd seeds)
Riddick Bowe, Herbie Hide
Gene Tunney, Ernie Terrell
Primo Carnera, Michael Spinks
Mike Weaver, Henry Akinwande
4th pot: (4th seeds)
James J. Corbett, Tim Witherspoon
Michael Dokes, Jess Willard
Jersey Joe Walcott, Sonny Liston
Oliver McCall, Ray Mercer
Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali
Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis
Mike Tyson, Tommy Burns
Joe Frazier, Evander Holyfield
2nd pot: (2nd seeds)
Ezzard Charles, Floyd Patterson
James J. Jeffries, Rocky Marciano
Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey
Vitali Klitchsko, George Foreman
3rd pot: (3rd seeds)
Riddick Bowe, Herbie Hide
Gene Tunney, Ernie Terrell
Primo Carnera, Michael Spinks
Mike Weaver, Henry Akinwande
4th pot: (4th seeds)
James J. Corbett, Tim Witherspoon
Michael Dokes, Jess Willard
Jersey Joe Walcott, Sonny Liston
Oliver McCall, Ray Mercer
Re: Past Heavyweight Champions Tournament:
Group A: Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Riddick Bowe, James J. Corbett
Group B: Muhammad Ali, Floyd Patterson, Herbie Hide, Tim Witherspoon
GROUP C: Larry Holmes, James J. Jeffries, Gene Tunney, Michael Dokes
GROUP D: Lennox Lewis, Rocky Marciano, Ernie Terrell, Jess Willard
GROUP E: Mike Tyson, Jack Johnson, Primo Carnera, Jersey Joe Walcott
GROUP F: Tommy Burns, Jack Dempsey, Michael Spinks, Sonny Liston
GROUP G: Joe Frazier, Vitali Klitschsko, Mike Weaver, Oliver McCall
GROUP H: Evander Holyfield, George Foreman, Henry Akinwande, Ray Mercer
Group B: Muhammad Ali, Floyd Patterson, Herbie Hide, Tim Witherspoon
GROUP C: Larry Holmes, James J. Jeffries, Gene Tunney, Michael Dokes
GROUP D: Lennox Lewis, Rocky Marciano, Ernie Terrell, Jess Willard
GROUP E: Mike Tyson, Jack Johnson, Primo Carnera, Jersey Joe Walcott
GROUP F: Tommy Burns, Jack Dempsey, Michael Spinks, Sonny Liston
GROUP G: Joe Frazier, Vitali Klitschsko, Mike Weaver, Oliver McCall
GROUP H: Evander Holyfield, George Foreman, Henry Akinwande, Ray Mercer
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Goodnight, Irene
- Heavyweight
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Re: Past Heavyweight Champions Tournament:
Just my take on the most recent pooling...
Group A:
Louis TKO10 Charles
Louis TKO7 Bowe
Louis TKO9 Corbett
Charles SD15 Corbett
Bowe TKO6 Charles
Bowe TKO5 Corbett
Group B:
Ali UD15 Patterson
Ali TKO5 Hide
Ali UD15 Witherspoon
Patterson UD15 Witherspoon
Patterson KO8 Hide
Witherspoon KO6 Hide
Group C:
Holmes UD15 Jeffries
Holmes UD15 Tunney
Holmes TKO11 Dokes
Tunney UD15 Jeffries
Tunney UD15 Dokes
Jeffries KO13 Dokes
Group D:
Lewis TKO9 Marciano
Lewis KO7 Terrell
Lewis UD15 Willard
Marciano KO10 Terrell
Marciano TKO9 Willard
Terrell MD15 Willard
Group E:
Tyson KO2 Johnson
Tyson TKO5 Carnera
Tyson KO6 Walcott
Walcott SD15 Johnson
Walcott UD15 Carnera
Johnson UD15 Carnera
Group F:
Liston TKO5 Dempsey
Liston KO4 Burns
Liston KO2 Spinks
Dempsey TKO4 Burns
Dempsey KO1 Spinks
Spinks UD15 Burns
Group G:
Frazier TKO9 Klitschko
Frazier KO7 Weaver
Frazier TKO8 McCall
Klitschko UD15 Weaver
Klitschko UD15 McCall
Weaver SD15 McCall
Group H:
Foreman TKO4 Holyfield
Foreman KO1 Akinwande
Foreman TKO4 Mercer
Holyfield UD15 Mercer
Holyfield TKO6 Akinwande
Mercer KO5 Akinwande
Group A:
Louis TKO10 Charles
Louis TKO7 Bowe
Louis TKO9 Corbett
Charles SD15 Corbett
Bowe TKO6 Charles
Bowe TKO5 Corbett
Group B:
Ali UD15 Patterson
Ali TKO5 Hide
Ali UD15 Witherspoon
Patterson UD15 Witherspoon
Patterson KO8 Hide
Witherspoon KO6 Hide
Group C:
Holmes UD15 Jeffries
Holmes UD15 Tunney
Holmes TKO11 Dokes
Tunney UD15 Jeffries
Tunney UD15 Dokes
Jeffries KO13 Dokes
Group D:
Lewis TKO9 Marciano
Lewis KO7 Terrell
Lewis UD15 Willard
Marciano KO10 Terrell
Marciano TKO9 Willard
Terrell MD15 Willard
Group E:
Tyson KO2 Johnson
Tyson TKO5 Carnera
Tyson KO6 Walcott
Walcott SD15 Johnson
Walcott UD15 Carnera
Johnson UD15 Carnera
Group F:
Liston TKO5 Dempsey
Liston KO4 Burns
Liston KO2 Spinks
Dempsey TKO4 Burns
Dempsey KO1 Spinks
Spinks UD15 Burns
Group G:
Frazier TKO9 Klitschko
Frazier KO7 Weaver
Frazier TKO8 McCall
Klitschko UD15 Weaver
Klitschko UD15 McCall
Weaver SD15 McCall
Group H:
Foreman TKO4 Holyfield
Foreman KO1 Akinwande
Foreman TKO4 Mercer
Holyfield UD15 Mercer
Holyfield TKO6 Akinwande
Mercer KO5 Akinwande
Re: Past Heavyweight Champions Tournament:
I agree with "Goodnight, Irene"
Except that Johnson beats Tyson and Walcott
Except that Johnson beats Tyson and Walcott
Re: Past Heavyweight Champions Tournament:
Group A: Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Riddick Bowe, James J. Corbett
Louis beats Charles - points decision
Louis beats Bowe - late stoppage
Louis beats Corbett - KO 7
Charles beats Bowe - points decision
Charles beats Corbett - points decision
Bowe beats Corbett - KO 4
Group B: Muhammad Ali, Floyd Patterson, Herbie Hide, Tim Witherspoon
Ali beats Patterson - KO 5
Ali beats Hide - KO 3
Ali beats Witherspoon - KO 5
Patterson beats Hide - KO 9
Patterson beats Witherspoon - points decision
Witherspoon beats Hide - KO 12
GROUP C: Larry Holmes, James J. Jeffries, Gene Tunney, Michael Dokes
Holmes beats Jeffries - KO round 8
Holmes beats Tunney - points decision
Holmes beats Dokes - KO 4
Tunney beats Jeffries - points decision
Tunney beats Dokes - KO 7
Jeffries beats Dokes - KO 5
GROUP D: Lennox Lewis, Rocky Marciano, Ernie Terrell, Jess Willard
Marciano beats Lewis - KO 14
Marciano beats Terrell - KO 7
Marciano beats Willard - KO 3
Lewis beats Terrell - KO 9
Lewis beats Willard - KO 5
Terrell beats Willard - points decision
GROUP E: Mike Tyson, Jack Johnson, Primo Carnera, Jersey Joe Walcott
Johnson beats Tyson - KO 9
Johnson beats Carnera - KO 14
Johnson beats Walcott - points decision
Tyson beats Carnera - KO 4
Tyson beats Walcott - KO 15
Walcott beats Carnera - points decision
GROUP F: Tommy Burns, Jack Dempsey, Leon Spinks, Sonny Liston
Dempsey beats Burns - KO 6
Dempsey beats spinks - KO 14
Dempsey beats Liston - KO 12
Liston beats Burns - KO 5
Liston beats Spinks - points decision
Burns beats Spinks - KO 8
GROUP G: Joe Frazier, Vitali Klitschsko, Mike Weaver, Oliver McCall
Frazier beats Klitchsko - KO 6
Frazier beats Weaver - KO 2
Frazier beats McCall - KO 9
Klitchsko beats Weaver - KO 13
Klitchsko beats McCall - points decision
McCall beats Weaver - KO 15
GROUP H: Evander Holyfield, George Foreman, Henry Akinwande, Ray Mercer
Foreman beats Holyfield - KO 14
Foreman beats Akinwande - KO 4
Foreman beats Mercer - KO 5
Holyfield beats Akinwande - points decision
Holyfield beats Mercer - points decision
Mercer beats Akinwande - KO 7
Hurry and points your opinion guys, I'm moving on, on Monday...
Louis beats Charles - points decision
Louis beats Bowe - late stoppage
Louis beats Corbett - KO 7
Charles beats Bowe - points decision
Charles beats Corbett - points decision
Bowe beats Corbett - KO 4
Group B: Muhammad Ali, Floyd Patterson, Herbie Hide, Tim Witherspoon
Ali beats Patterson - KO 5
Ali beats Hide - KO 3
Ali beats Witherspoon - KO 5
Patterson beats Hide - KO 9
Patterson beats Witherspoon - points decision
Witherspoon beats Hide - KO 12
GROUP C: Larry Holmes, James J. Jeffries, Gene Tunney, Michael Dokes
Holmes beats Jeffries - KO round 8
Holmes beats Tunney - points decision
Holmes beats Dokes - KO 4
Tunney beats Jeffries - points decision
Tunney beats Dokes - KO 7
Jeffries beats Dokes - KO 5
GROUP D: Lennox Lewis, Rocky Marciano, Ernie Terrell, Jess Willard
Marciano beats Lewis - KO 14
Marciano beats Terrell - KO 7
Marciano beats Willard - KO 3
Lewis beats Terrell - KO 9
Lewis beats Willard - KO 5
Terrell beats Willard - points decision
GROUP E: Mike Tyson, Jack Johnson, Primo Carnera, Jersey Joe Walcott
Johnson beats Tyson - KO 9
Johnson beats Carnera - KO 14
Johnson beats Walcott - points decision
Tyson beats Carnera - KO 4
Tyson beats Walcott - KO 15
Walcott beats Carnera - points decision
GROUP F: Tommy Burns, Jack Dempsey, Leon Spinks, Sonny Liston
Dempsey beats Burns - KO 6
Dempsey beats spinks - KO 14
Dempsey beats Liston - KO 12
Liston beats Burns - KO 5
Liston beats Spinks - points decision
Burns beats Spinks - KO 8
GROUP G: Joe Frazier, Vitali Klitschsko, Mike Weaver, Oliver McCall
Frazier beats Klitchsko - KO 6
Frazier beats Weaver - KO 2
Frazier beats McCall - KO 9
Klitchsko beats Weaver - KO 13
Klitchsko beats McCall - points decision
McCall beats Weaver - KO 15
GROUP H: Evander Holyfield, George Foreman, Henry Akinwande, Ray Mercer
Foreman beats Holyfield - KO 14
Foreman beats Akinwande - KO 4
Foreman beats Mercer - KO 5
Holyfield beats Akinwande - points decision
Holyfield beats Mercer - points decision
Mercer beats Akinwande - KO 7
Hurry and points your opinion guys, I'm moving on, on Monday... -
pound per pound
- Heavyweight
- Posts: 1602
- Joined: 13 Jan 2005, 14:36
Re: Past Heavyweight Champions Tournament:
My picks, winners on the left
Louis UD Charles
Louis TKO Bowe
Louis SD Corbett
Bowe TKO Chares
Corbett UD Charles
Bowe TKO Corbett
Ali TKO Hide
Ali SD Witherspoon
Hide TKO Patterson
Witherpsoon UD Patterson
Witherspoon TKO Hide
Holmes UD Tunney
Holmes TKO Dokes
Jeffries SD Tunney
Tunney UD Dokes
Jeffries KO Dokes
Lewis TKO Marciano
Marciano KO Terrell
Marciano TKO Willard
Lewis TKO Terrell
Lewis TKO Willard
Terrell UD Willard
Tyson KO Johnson
Johnson UD Carnera
Johnson SD Walcott
Tyson TKO Carnera
Tyson KO Walcott
DRAW. Walcott and Carnera draw. :)
Dempsey Ko Burns
Dempsey KO spinks
Liston TKO Dempsey
Liston KO Burns
Liston KO Spinks
Spinks UD Burns
Klitschko TKO Frazier
Frazier TKO Weaver
Frazier UD McCall
Klitchsko TKO Weaver
Klitchsko UD McCall
McCall TKO Weaver
Holyfield TKO Foreman
Foreman UD Akinwande
Foreman SD Mercer
Holyfield UD Akinwande
Holyfield UD Mercer
Mercer UD Akinwande
Louis UD Charles
Louis TKO Bowe
Louis SD Corbett
Bowe TKO Chares
Corbett UD Charles
Bowe TKO Corbett
Ali TKO Hide
Ali SD Witherspoon
Hide TKO Patterson
Witherpsoon UD Patterson
Witherspoon TKO Hide
Holmes UD Tunney
Holmes TKO Dokes
Jeffries SD Tunney
Tunney UD Dokes
Jeffries KO Dokes
Lewis TKO Marciano
Marciano KO Terrell
Marciano TKO Willard
Lewis TKO Terrell
Lewis TKO Willard
Terrell UD Willard
Tyson KO Johnson
Johnson UD Carnera
Johnson SD Walcott
Tyson TKO Carnera
Tyson KO Walcott
DRAW. Walcott and Carnera draw. :)
Dempsey Ko Burns
Dempsey KO spinks
Liston TKO Dempsey
Liston KO Burns
Liston KO Spinks
Spinks UD Burns
Klitschko TKO Frazier
Frazier TKO Weaver
Frazier UD McCall
Klitchsko TKO Weaver
Klitchsko UD McCall
McCall TKO Weaver
Holyfield TKO Foreman
Foreman UD Akinwande
Foreman SD Mercer
Holyfield UD Akinwande
Holyfield UD Mercer
Mercer UD Akinwande
Re: Past Heavyweight Champions Tournament:
Copy and Pasted, only few changes.
Group A:
Louis TKO10 Charles
Louis TKO7 Bowe
Louis TKO9 Corbett
Charles SD15 Corbett
Bowe TKO6 Charles
Bowe TKO5 Corbett
Group B:
Ali UD15 Patterson
Ali TKO5 Hide
Ali UD15 Witherspoon
Patterson UD15 Witherspoon
Patterson KO8 Hide
Witherspoon KO6 Hide
Group C:
Holmes UD15 Jeffries
Holmes UD15 Tunney
Holmes TKO11 Dokes
Tunney UD15 Jeffries
Tunney UD15 Dokes
Jeffries KO13 Dokes
Group D:
Lewis TKO9 Marciano
Lewis KO7 Terrell
Lewis UD15 Willard
Marciano KO10 Terrell
Marciano TKO9 Willard
Terrell MD15 Willard
Group E:
Tyson KO2 Johnson
Tyson TKO5 Carnera
Tyson KO6 Walcott
Johnson SD15 Walcott
Walcott UD15 Carnera
Johnson UD15 Carnera
Group F:
Liston TKO5 Dempsey
Liston KO4 Burns
Spinks UD Liston
Dempsey TKO4 Burns
Dempsey Late stoppage Spinks
Spinks UD15 Burns
Group G:
Frazier TKO9 Klitschko
Frazier KO7 Weaver
Frazier TKO8 McCall
Klitschko UD15 Weaver
McCall UD15 Klitschko
Weaver SD15 McCall
Group H:
Foreman TKO4 Holyfield
Foreman KO1 Akinwande
Foreman TKO4 Mercer
Holyfield UD15 Mercer
Holyfield TKO6 Akinwande
Mercer KO5 Akinwande[/quote]
Group A:
Louis TKO10 Charles
Louis TKO7 Bowe
Louis TKO9 Corbett
Charles SD15 Corbett
Bowe TKO6 Charles
Bowe TKO5 Corbett
Group B:
Ali UD15 Patterson
Ali TKO5 Hide
Ali UD15 Witherspoon
Patterson UD15 Witherspoon
Patterson KO8 Hide
Witherspoon KO6 Hide
Group C:
Holmes UD15 Jeffries
Holmes UD15 Tunney
Holmes TKO11 Dokes
Tunney UD15 Jeffries
Tunney UD15 Dokes
Jeffries KO13 Dokes
Group D:
Lewis TKO9 Marciano
Lewis KO7 Terrell
Lewis UD15 Willard
Marciano KO10 Terrell
Marciano TKO9 Willard
Terrell MD15 Willard
Group E:
Tyson KO2 Johnson
Tyson TKO5 Carnera
Tyson KO6 Walcott
Johnson SD15 Walcott
Walcott UD15 Carnera
Johnson UD15 Carnera
Group F:
Liston TKO5 Dempsey
Liston KO4 Burns
Spinks UD Liston
Dempsey TKO4 Burns
Dempsey Late stoppage Spinks
Spinks UD15 Burns
Group G:
Frazier TKO9 Klitschko
Frazier KO7 Weaver
Frazier TKO8 McCall
Klitschko UD15 Weaver
McCall UD15 Klitschko
Weaver SD15 McCall
Group H:
Foreman TKO4 Holyfield
Foreman KO1 Akinwande
Foreman TKO4 Mercer
Holyfield UD15 Mercer
Holyfield TKO6 Akinwande
Mercer KO5 Akinwande[/quote]
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jezzamundo
- Heavyweight
- Posts: 3127
- Joined: 16 Jun 2004, 13:11
Re: Past Heavyweight Champions Tournament:
Group A:
Louis TKO10 Charles
Louis TKO9 Bowe
Louis KO6 Corbett
Charles UD15 Corbett
Bowe UD15 Charles
Bowe TKO7 Corbett
Group B:
Ali TKO13 Patterson
Ali TKO3 Hide
Ali UD15 Witherspoon
Patterson UD15 Witherspoon
Patterson KO5 Hide
Witherspoon KO8 Hide
Group C:
Holmes MD15 Jeffries
Holmes UD15 Tunney
Holmes TKO9 Dokes
Tunney UD15 Jeffries
Tunney UD15 Dokes
Jeffries KO5 Dokes
Group D:
Lewis TKO8 Marciano
Lewis KO5 Terrell
Lewis TKO6 Willard
Marciano KO12 Terrell
Marciano KO15 Willard
Willard UD12 Terrell
Group E:
Tyson KO10 Johnson
Tyson TKO4 Carnera
Tyson KO6 Walcott
Johnson UD15 Walcott
Walcott UD15 Carnera
Johnson TKO14 Carnera
Group F:
Liston TKO6 Dempsey
Liston KO4 Burns
Liston UD15 Spinks
Dempsey TKO3 Burns
Dempsey KO3 Spinks
Spinks UD15 Burns
Group G:
Frazier UD15 Klitschko
Frazier KO7 Weaver
Frazier UD15 McCall
Klitschko KO9 Weaver
Klitschko UD15 McCall
Weaver SD15 McCall
Group H:
Holyfield MD16 Foreman
Foreman KO1 Akinwande
Foreman TKO8 Mercer
Holyfield UD15 Mercer
Holyfield TKO7 Akinwande
Mercer KO9 Akinwande
Louis TKO10 Charles
Louis TKO9 Bowe
Louis KO6 Corbett
Charles UD15 Corbett
Bowe UD15 Charles
Bowe TKO7 Corbett
Group B:
Ali TKO13 Patterson
Ali TKO3 Hide
Ali UD15 Witherspoon
Patterson UD15 Witherspoon
Patterson KO5 Hide
Witherspoon KO8 Hide
Group C:
Holmes MD15 Jeffries
Holmes UD15 Tunney
Holmes TKO9 Dokes
Tunney UD15 Jeffries
Tunney UD15 Dokes
Jeffries KO5 Dokes
Group D:
Lewis TKO8 Marciano
Lewis KO5 Terrell
Lewis TKO6 Willard
Marciano KO12 Terrell
Marciano KO15 Willard
Willard UD12 Terrell
Group E:
Tyson KO10 Johnson
Tyson TKO4 Carnera
Tyson KO6 Walcott
Johnson UD15 Walcott
Walcott UD15 Carnera
Johnson TKO14 Carnera
Group F:
Liston TKO6 Dempsey
Liston KO4 Burns
Liston UD15 Spinks
Dempsey TKO3 Burns
Dempsey KO3 Spinks
Spinks UD15 Burns
Group G:
Frazier UD15 Klitschko
Frazier KO7 Weaver
Frazier UD15 McCall
Klitschko KO9 Weaver
Klitschko UD15 McCall
Weaver SD15 McCall
Group H:
Holyfield MD16 Foreman
Foreman KO1 Akinwande
Foreman TKO8 Mercer
Holyfield UD15 Mercer
Holyfield TKO7 Akinwande
Mercer KO9 Akinwande
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witherspoon
- Heavyweight
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Re: Past Heavyweight Champions Tournament:
A
Louis ud Charles
Bowe ko12 Corbett
Louis ko 14 Corbett
Charles sd Bowe
Louis sd Bowe
Charles ud Corbett
B
Ali ko7 Patterson
Witherspoon ko4 Hide
Ali ko3 Hide
Witherspoon tko11 Patterson
Ali ud Witherspoon
Patterson ko1 Hide
C
Holmes ud Jefferies
Tunney ud Dokes
Tunney sd Jefferies
Holmes ko10 Dokes
Jefferies ud Dokes
Holmes ud Tunney
D
Marciano ko 10 Lewis
Willard sd Terrell
Lewis ud Willard
Marciano tko9 Terrell
Marciano ko15 Willard
Lewis tko12 Terrell
E
Johnson sd Tyson
Walcott ud Carnera
Johnson ud Carnera
Walcott sd Tyson
Johnson sd Walcott
Tyson ko6 Carnera
F
Liston tko8 Demsey
Spinks tko12 Burns
Liston ko2 Burns
Dempsey drew Spinks
Dempsey ko12 Burns
Liston tko8 Spinks
G
Frazier ud Klitschko
McCall tko15 Weaver
Klitschko tko10 Weaver
Frazier ud McCall
Frazier tko7 Weaver
Klitschko sd McCall
H
Foreman tko5 Holyfield
Mercer ud Akinwande
Foreman ko3 Akinwande
Holyfied ud Mercer
Foreman tko 7 Mercer
Holyfield tko10 Akinwande
Louis ud Charles
Bowe ko12 Corbett
Louis ko 14 Corbett
Charles sd Bowe
Louis sd Bowe
Charles ud Corbett
B
Ali ko7 Patterson
Witherspoon ko4 Hide
Ali ko3 Hide
Witherspoon tko11 Patterson
Ali ud Witherspoon
Patterson ko1 Hide
C
Holmes ud Jefferies
Tunney ud Dokes
Tunney sd Jefferies
Holmes ko10 Dokes
Jefferies ud Dokes
Holmes ud Tunney
D
Marciano ko 10 Lewis
Willard sd Terrell
Lewis ud Willard
Marciano tko9 Terrell
Marciano ko15 Willard
Lewis tko12 Terrell
E
Johnson sd Tyson
Walcott ud Carnera
Johnson ud Carnera
Walcott sd Tyson
Johnson sd Walcott
Tyson ko6 Carnera
F
Liston tko8 Demsey
Spinks tko12 Burns
Liston ko2 Burns
Dempsey drew Spinks
Dempsey ko12 Burns
Liston tko8 Spinks
G
Frazier ud Klitschko
McCall tko15 Weaver
Klitschko tko10 Weaver
Frazier ud McCall
Frazier tko7 Weaver
Klitschko sd McCall
H
Foreman tko5 Holyfield
Mercer ud Akinwande
Foreman ko3 Akinwande
Holyfied ud Mercer
Foreman tko 7 Mercer
Holyfield tko10 Akinwande
Re: Past Heavyweight Champions Tournament:
Here are the results: (7 BOXREC MEMBERS VOTED)… Thanks guys.
GROUP A:
Joe Louis
Riddick Bowe
Ezzard Charles
James K. Corbett
GROUP B:
Muhammad Ali
Floyd Patterson
Tim Witherspoon
Herbie Hide
GROUP C.
Larry Holmes
Gene Tunney
James J. Jeffries
Michael Dokes
GROUP D.
Lennox Lewis
Rocky Marciano
Ernie Terrell
Jess Willard
GROUP E.
Mike Tyson
Jack Johnson
Jersey Joe Walcott
Primo Carnera
GROUP F:
Sonny Liston
Jack Dempsey
Leon Spinks
Tommy Burns
GROUP G.
Joe Frazier
Vitali Klitchsko
Mike Weaver
Oliver McCall
GROUP H.
George Foreman
Evander Holyfield
Ray Mercer
Henry Akinwande
Thanks again guys for your imput.
GROUP A:
Joe Louis
Riddick Bowe
Ezzard Charles
James K. Corbett
GROUP B:
Muhammad Ali
Floyd Patterson
Tim Witherspoon
Herbie Hide
GROUP C.
Larry Holmes
Gene Tunney
James J. Jeffries
Michael Dokes
GROUP D.
Lennox Lewis
Rocky Marciano
Ernie Terrell
Jess Willard
GROUP E.
Mike Tyson
Jack Johnson
Jersey Joe Walcott
Primo Carnera
GROUP F:
Sonny Liston
Jack Dempsey
Leon Spinks
Tommy Burns
GROUP G.
Joe Frazier
Vitali Klitchsko
Mike Weaver
Oliver McCall
GROUP H.
George Foreman
Evander Holyfield
Ray Mercer
Henry Akinwande
Thanks again guys for your imput.Re: Past Heavyweight Champions Tournament:
THE NEWS
GROUP A:
Group A was owned by Joe Louis… Louis looked at impressive as ever as he dispatched his opponents with impressive combinations and deadly skill.
Ezzard Charles was favourite to go through in second place, but Riddick Bowe beat him to it, having the fights of his life in this group. Bowe is satisfied with his performances and looks forward to the next round draw with excitement and renewed vigour.
Charles thinks sadly of what might have been, and decides to go in for the Light Heavyweight tournament…
Corbett has no comment in the press conference.
GROUP B:
The crown of Group B was never in doubt after people seen Ali’s first round against Patterson…The group was his and he knew it… After three convincing victories, Ali has a press conference and predicts that he will win the tournament… Then hits the gym.
Floyd has no answer for the Kentucky mouthpiece, but still does enough to go through and thinks to himself: “well it couldn’t have got more difficult than that” and is happy enough to remain in contention.
Witherspoon, (nearly threw a spanner in the works for Floyd Pattersons tournament) feels he was robbed at his points defeat to Patterson. Tim realises his group was difficult, but still feels he’s good enough to go through into the next round. Sadly, he won’t though.
Herbie Hide believes that the referee stopped the fight to early against Ali, but publicly congratulates Ali and Patterson for their successes.
GROUP C:
Larry Holmes belief in himself and ability, convinces bookmakers to shorten the odds on him… Holmes laughs off reporters when they ask him if they believe he got the “easy draw”… Holmes replies that it doesn’t matter who was in the group, he would have won it anyway.
Gene Tunney remains humble and in high spirits despite coming second to Holmes… Reporters ask Tunney who he wants to face in the next round… “Jack Dempsey” he answers cheerfully.
Jeffries declares that a white man will win the tournament, win asked to predict the eventual victor.
Michael Dokes came out of hospital in a healthy state of mind… Though he does suffer from migraines from time to time.
GROUP D:
****(Despite some voting a Marciano 3 times in this group, more have voted Lewis… And as such, Lewis tops the group)****
Lennox Lewis sits proudly at the top of the group D table and sits in the same way in the press conference. He speaks articulately and pays homage to Rocky Marciano’s performances in the group. Already people are making comparisons on Lewis fighting style with that of Larry Holmes.
Rocky Marciano stays humble at the press conference. Clearly in a disappointed mood, The Brockton Blockbuster remains convinced that he won his fight against Lewis, because he landed “the bigger shots” and insists he was “never hurt”… Some members of the press agree with Marciano’s statements, and write an impassioned defence of him in their columns… “The Indestructible” he is repeatedly called.
Ernie Terrell believes that Lewis and Marciano deserve to go through…”Two ring legends” he describes them as. And he causes controversy by saying that “Cassius Clay will meet his maker if he encounters any of these two busters”.
Jess Willard announces his retirement form the sport of boxing… Declaring that he will work on his fathers farm and have absolutely no interest in the tournament as it progresses… He also touts “Jack Dempsey” as “the champion in waiting”.
GROUP E:
(There was a lot of disagreement about Group E in particular… Some had Johnson winning the group, and having Tyson third… While others had Tyson winning the group with Johnson just behind…)
Mike Tyson was at his destructive best in this group… And two quite difficult fights against Johnson and Walcott have let “Iron Mike” know that he’s not gonna get it all his own way in this competition. Yet, Mike remains confident and asks; “who can last the distance with me?”
Johnson suffers a loss so early in the tournament and is angered upon the bookmakers going off him. Johnson declares that he is “the best fighter and the best lover” among those remaining… (temporarily forgetting his loss to Tyson earlier in the group).
Jersey Joe Walcott gave these two past greats a run for their money and he was just brushed out into third, and thus eliminated from the tournament. Although he’s much relieved that the ordeal is over, he believes that “Joe Louis is the no 1, never fought anyone like him”… Walcott remains ever popular with the crowd.
Primo Carnera stays unusually quiet at the press conference… Possibly contemplating his three losses in the group… Living proof that size doesn’t always matter.
GROUP F:
Sonny Liston looked deadly in his battles against Dempsey and Burns… Liston plays himself up during the press conference, claiming that he “feared no-one”.
Dempsey (with nose readjusted) says that he’s happy to progress and that he knows that the fans will enjoy greater slugfests in the future. Dempsey smiles to himself when asked who he thought was the favourite.
Leon Spinks admits that he was outclassed in the group…”Sonny was too strong, and Jack was too tough”. Spinks still believes in his own boxing credentials, and believes that another time things might have been different, and he’d still be in the tournament.
Tommy Burns voiced his shock that Jim Jeffries had been eliminated and voices his concern about the objectivity of the judges… He says that he will return home to Canada, and follow the tournament eagerly. :)
GROUP G:
“Smokin” Joe Frazier had Group G in his pocket since his KO victory over Oliver McCall. At the press conference, when asked if he thought he was good enough to win the tournament, replying “I am what I am”… He also expresses his confidence that Rocky Marciano will make a great comeback and go far in the tournament… His last answer upon leaving the press conference causes stirrings: “Who do you wanna fight next Joe?”
“Muhammad Ali”
Vitali Klitchsko is in buoyant mood at the press conference. He seems calm and relaxed while the questions are fired at him. He believes that he deserves his place in the last 16, and that he still has so much to give… And he dedicates his victories for mother and his brother.
Mike Weaver seems disappointed in himself for not progressing. At the press conference he announces that he’s going to keep training “harder than ever”, and lastly offers: “if Joe Frazier ever needs a sparring partner, he knows where to find me”. Great sentiments from a disgruntled Weaver.
Oliver McCall does not show up for the press conference of Group G. But his lacklustre performances against his opponents…maybe are words enough. :(
GROUP H:
“Big George” fought like an earthquake in the ring. In his three fights, he rumbled his opponents constantly, (Only Holyfield lasting the pace). When asked if he thought the bookmakers got it wrong, making him one of the favourites, he answered: “I wouldn’t bet against me”. :surprised:
Evander Holyfield, still with a puffy eye, replies that he’s ready for whatever comes his way after the fight against Foreman.
Ray Mercer says that he had never been beaten so much in his life, after his fights with Foreman and Holyfield, “and I’ve fought Kimbo Slice!” he joked…Mercer believes that he had one of the more difficult groups, but doesn’t want to use that an excuse… He says that he will continue watching the tournament, even if he’s not fighting in it anymore.
Henry Akinwande admits that he was “just not good enough” in his three consecutive losses. But says that he has thoroughly enjoyed himself and it is a pleasure to be in such esteemed company… Akinwande predicts that Muhammad Ali will win the tournament… “There’s only 1 Ali” he declares as he raises from the table to a rapturous applause for his efforts. :)
GROUP A:
Group A was owned by Joe Louis… Louis looked at impressive as ever as he dispatched his opponents with impressive combinations and deadly skill.
Ezzard Charles was favourite to go through in second place, but Riddick Bowe beat him to it, having the fights of his life in this group. Bowe is satisfied with his performances and looks forward to the next round draw with excitement and renewed vigour.
Charles thinks sadly of what might have been, and decides to go in for the Light Heavyweight tournament…
Corbett has no comment in the press conference.
GROUP B:
The crown of Group B was never in doubt after people seen Ali’s first round against Patterson…The group was his and he knew it… After three convincing victories, Ali has a press conference and predicts that he will win the tournament… Then hits the gym.
Floyd has no answer for the Kentucky mouthpiece, but still does enough to go through and thinks to himself: “well it couldn’t have got more difficult than that” and is happy enough to remain in contention.
Witherspoon, (nearly threw a spanner in the works for Floyd Pattersons tournament) feels he was robbed at his points defeat to Patterson. Tim realises his group was difficult, but still feels he’s good enough to go through into the next round. Sadly, he won’t though.
Herbie Hide believes that the referee stopped the fight to early against Ali, but publicly congratulates Ali and Patterson for their successes.
GROUP C:
Larry Holmes belief in himself and ability, convinces bookmakers to shorten the odds on him… Holmes laughs off reporters when they ask him if they believe he got the “easy draw”… Holmes replies that it doesn’t matter who was in the group, he would have won it anyway.
Gene Tunney remains humble and in high spirits despite coming second to Holmes… Reporters ask Tunney who he wants to face in the next round… “Jack Dempsey” he answers cheerfully.
Jeffries declares that a white man will win the tournament, win asked to predict the eventual victor.
Michael Dokes came out of hospital in a healthy state of mind… Though he does suffer from migraines from time to time.
GROUP D:
****(Despite some voting a Marciano 3 times in this group, more have voted Lewis… And as such, Lewis tops the group)****
Lennox Lewis sits proudly at the top of the group D table and sits in the same way in the press conference. He speaks articulately and pays homage to Rocky Marciano’s performances in the group. Already people are making comparisons on Lewis fighting style with that of Larry Holmes.
Rocky Marciano stays humble at the press conference. Clearly in a disappointed mood, The Brockton Blockbuster remains convinced that he won his fight against Lewis, because he landed “the bigger shots” and insists he was “never hurt”… Some members of the press agree with Marciano’s statements, and write an impassioned defence of him in their columns… “The Indestructible” he is repeatedly called.
Ernie Terrell believes that Lewis and Marciano deserve to go through…”Two ring legends” he describes them as. And he causes controversy by saying that “Cassius Clay will meet his maker if he encounters any of these two busters”.
Jess Willard announces his retirement form the sport of boxing… Declaring that he will work on his fathers farm and have absolutely no interest in the tournament as it progresses… He also touts “Jack Dempsey” as “the champion in waiting”.
GROUP E:
(There was a lot of disagreement about Group E in particular… Some had Johnson winning the group, and having Tyson third… While others had Tyson winning the group with Johnson just behind…)
Mike Tyson was at his destructive best in this group… And two quite difficult fights against Johnson and Walcott have let “Iron Mike” know that he’s not gonna get it all his own way in this competition. Yet, Mike remains confident and asks; “who can last the distance with me?”
Johnson suffers a loss so early in the tournament and is angered upon the bookmakers going off him. Johnson declares that he is “the best fighter and the best lover” among those remaining… (temporarily forgetting his loss to Tyson earlier in the group).
Jersey Joe Walcott gave these two past greats a run for their money and he was just brushed out into third, and thus eliminated from the tournament. Although he’s much relieved that the ordeal is over, he believes that “Joe Louis is the no 1, never fought anyone like him”… Walcott remains ever popular with the crowd.
Primo Carnera stays unusually quiet at the press conference… Possibly contemplating his three losses in the group… Living proof that size doesn’t always matter.
GROUP F:
Sonny Liston looked deadly in his battles against Dempsey and Burns… Liston plays himself up during the press conference, claiming that he “feared no-one”.
Dempsey (with nose readjusted) says that he’s happy to progress and that he knows that the fans will enjoy greater slugfests in the future. Dempsey smiles to himself when asked who he thought was the favourite.
Leon Spinks admits that he was outclassed in the group…”Sonny was too strong, and Jack was too tough”. Spinks still believes in his own boxing credentials, and believes that another time things might have been different, and he’d still be in the tournament.
Tommy Burns voiced his shock that Jim Jeffries had been eliminated and voices his concern about the objectivity of the judges… He says that he will return home to Canada, and follow the tournament eagerly. :)
GROUP G:
“Smokin” Joe Frazier had Group G in his pocket since his KO victory over Oliver McCall. At the press conference, when asked if he thought he was good enough to win the tournament, replying “I am what I am”… He also expresses his confidence that Rocky Marciano will make a great comeback and go far in the tournament… His last answer upon leaving the press conference causes stirrings: “Who do you wanna fight next Joe?”
“Muhammad Ali”
Vitali Klitchsko is in buoyant mood at the press conference. He seems calm and relaxed while the questions are fired at him. He believes that he deserves his place in the last 16, and that he still has so much to give… And he dedicates his victories for mother and his brother.
Mike Weaver seems disappointed in himself for not progressing. At the press conference he announces that he’s going to keep training “harder than ever”, and lastly offers: “if Joe Frazier ever needs a sparring partner, he knows where to find me”. Great sentiments from a disgruntled Weaver.
Oliver McCall does not show up for the press conference of Group G. But his lacklustre performances against his opponents…maybe are words enough. :(
GROUP H:
“Big George” fought like an earthquake in the ring. In his three fights, he rumbled his opponents constantly, (Only Holyfield lasting the pace). When asked if he thought the bookmakers got it wrong, making him one of the favourites, he answered: “I wouldn’t bet against me”. :surprised:
Evander Holyfield, still with a puffy eye, replies that he’s ready for whatever comes his way after the fight against Foreman.
Ray Mercer says that he had never been beaten so much in his life, after his fights with Foreman and Holyfield, “and I’ve fought Kimbo Slice!” he joked…Mercer believes that he had one of the more difficult groups, but doesn’t want to use that an excuse… He says that he will continue watching the tournament, even if he’s not fighting in it anymore.
Henry Akinwande admits that he was “just not good enough” in his three consecutive losses. But says that he has thoroughly enjoyed himself and it is a pleasure to be in such esteemed company… Akinwande predicts that Muhammad Ali will win the tournament… “There’s only 1 Ali” he declares as he raises from the table to a rapturous applause for his efforts. :)