Pacific Northwest: Amateur Boxing, Yesterday & Today

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babyhuey wrote:i have zero interest in getting involved in usa boxing other then as a local boxing coach,
zelley, with all your knowlegde i would be nice to have you around again, even if its a local boxing coach, not every kid is going to make the olympic team, but every kid who works in the gym leaves with something they can fall back on later in life,
one of my first pee wees boxers joined the army and is fighting in afganistan right now,
he stays in contact and gives the boxing program credit for getting his life together and doing something hes proud of.
so ya, i leave the politics for the politicians, i do my thing with the kids.
Good to hear that you are coaching. I agree with your comment
"...but every kid who works in the gym leaves with something they can fall back on
later in life".

Looking back over the years in British Columbia, there have been some clubs that do an outstanding job with juniors and novices. Back in the Sixties, one of the best clubs
for junior boxers was the North West Eagles club in North Vancouver. For many years,
they hosted the Bronze Gloves tournament for junior novice boxers. Two of the
coaches that received the team trophy at the 1969 Emerald Gloves were Terry Cooke and the
late Elio Ius. Of interst, in 1972, Muhammed Ali, George Chuvalo, Manny Gonzalez and
Clyde Gray trained at the North West Eagles gym prior to their bouts in Vancouver.
In his bout with Chuvalo, Ali used the rope-a-dope strategy that he would later
use against George Foreman.

Following his victory over Manuel Gonzalez, Clyde Gray would move on to win
the British Commonwealth welterweight title with a victory ove Eddie Blay of Ghana
in 1973 and lose a 15 round decision to the smooth welterweight champ Jose Napoles.
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babyhuey wrote:i have zero interest in getting involved in usa boxing other then as a local boxing coach,
even just the limited expierence i have witnessed in reguards to the politics have left enuff of a bad taste in my mouth that i want nothing to do with it,
Sometimes there are events that could be part political, part comedy of errors and
sometimes bad timing.

I recall the 1990 Seattle Goodwill Games sponsored by Ted Turner.

As part of the boxing committee involved in preparing for the 1994
Commonwealth Games in Victoria, I along with other sports representatives
and others were invited to attend the 1990 Seattle Goodwill Games to observe.
It was a chance to meet with officials and others. However, my experience turned
out to be a comedy of errors.

My time at the Games was to observe the finals of the boxing!! To make it in a timely fashion
I took a plane. Trouble is the plane stopped in Port Angeles. On arriving at the certification
site, I was informed that they had just closed the registration, thus I was unable to get
the proper credentials to be able to mix and mingle freely. However, they were kind
enough to give me a free pass to the boxing, but I would be stuck in the cheap seats
without any ability to contact officials, coaches and boxers. However, i did run into
some of the locals that I remembered from my boxing days.

Although I got free accomodation at one of the hotels in downtown Seattle, I was on the hook for the plane flight and the meal costs. At the end of the Goodwill Games experience,
it was costly and waste of time, but that is no fault of the Seattle organizers, it was a
case of bad luck and poor timing. Anyway it was good to see the finals of the
1990 BOXING TOURNAMENT, but a crying shame I wasn't able to mix and mingle.
And at the end of the day, it was a zero sum game for preparation in planning for
Commonwealth Games boxing activity in Victoria in 1994. :shame: :oops: :bow:
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babyhuey wrote:
jrow72 wrote:I have been thinkin about joining grand avanue gym in portland as my new gym. David Banks was a friend of mine before he went big time and he tried to get me to join, I was just more into mma at the time and was training for it. Now my focus has switched over after training with the great Andy Minsker. Who in my mind is one of the best ever to come out of portland period.

i had my pro fights under fred and george at the grand, george is my dude and a great trainer,
i sparred with david banks back in my day, and hes only gotten better,
this was a promo video i did for a friend to get david some attention, it worked because after he fought manfredo fred said he emailed this video to everyone in boxing and the contender oppertunity came up soon after...
heres the link- oviously im the white guy interviewing david
LINK- CUT AND PASTE-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCDYpg3lqMU

there are alot of good boxers and sparring at the grand, i met andy minsker for the first time earlier this year, you must be doing the mma thing at braveheart, my friend and myself were training nate coy for his fight with mike pierce for the sport fight title,
andys plan was for mike to box nate as they were both wrestlers,
we dident know andy was training nate and his plan....andy also dident know ours,
we also thought we would take the advantage using nate to box, so thats what we trained him to do,
i dont know if you were there at sportfight and saw the fight or not, but both these wrestlers boxed on there feet for 5-5 minute rounds, it ended up being a good stand up fight with our guy getting the win and the title, so later after the fight we see andy down in the locker room
now andy knew my friend clayton hires from there old boxing days,
but i dont believe andy knew nate had 2 boxing coaches training him,
so when i introduced myself to andy i gave him my card from my gym and he just laughted because he thought he was coming to the fight to fight nate the wrestler, not nate the boxer...
andy seemed like a cool cat, and your right... he was one of the best boxers to come out of oregon,
andy is the last (male) boxer from oregon to win the national golden gloves,
(female boxer molly mcconnell won a few yrs back)
andy lost in the finals to the great meldrick taylor for the olympic team spot,
andy would have had a great pro career but a consistant right hand injury set him back.


I remember the fight. It was shortly after I started training there. Mike had only been training with Andy for a few weeks I think. That was one hell of a standup fight for two wrestlers. Both guys got good shots in and it was one for the ages as far as sportfight goes. Both those guys are gonna be somebody in the mma world, its only a matter of time. Which gym do you coach at? Quest? I have been doing the mma thing for a while now on and off but recently decided that due to an ankle injury I suffered in college playing football, and my love for standup fighting I would pursue either boxing or muay thai. I know it might be a bit late considering my age (24), but I still have a lot of fight in me. Andy is a great coach too, the guys from braveheart are gonna shock people with their boxing skills. Its too bad the gym moved to far away for me to attend as much as I was. I think that boxing is under utilized in mma. Nobody uses the jab, and nobody tries to slip punches either. Some of the best fighters use boxing to their advantage i.e. GSP, arlovski, bj penn. Banks is a good dude. I met him when he was just young buck (same age as me) while I was working as a bouncer in a bar he and his friends would always fight in. I got to talkin to him one time about boxing and mma and he said he was trying mma. Soon after he said he didn't like getting choked and started to box. He kept me updated on his fights when he was still doin 4 rounders. When he hit the contender I was happy to see him doing good. I hope he gets a fair shake in the boxing biz. Just because he doesn't have an am record doesn't mean he is any less of a fighter. I need to find a new place to train that has good boxing coaches. I have a good base under me now and want to work on upping my game.
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jrow72 wrote:
babyhuey wrote:
jrow72 wrote:I have been thinkin about joining grand avanue gym in portland as my new gym. David Banks was a friend of mine before he went big time and he tried to get me to join, I was just more into mma at the time and was training for it. Now my focus has switched over after training with the great Andy Minsker. Who in my mind is one of the best ever to come out of portland period.

i had my pro fights under fred and george at the grand, george is my dude and a great trainer,
i sparred with david banks back in my day, and hes only gotten better,
this was a promo video i did for a friend to get david some attention, it worked because after he fought manfredo fred said he emailed this video to everyone in boxing and the contender oppertunity came up soon after...
heres the link- oviously im the white guy interviewing david
LINK- CUT AND PASTE-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCDYpg3lqMU

there are alot of good boxers and sparring at the grand, i met andy minsker for the first time earlier this year, you must be doing the mma thing at braveheart, my friend and myself were training nate coy for his fight with mike pierce for the sport fight title,
andys plan was for mike to box nate as they were both wrestlers,
we dident know andy was training nate and his plan....andy also dident know ours,
we also thought we would take the advantage using nate to box, so thats what we trained him to do,
i dont know if you were there at sportfight and saw the fight or not, but both these wrestlers boxed on there feet for 5-5 minute rounds, it ended up being a good stand up fight with our guy getting the win and the title, so later after the fight we see andy down in the locker room
now andy knew my friend clayton hires from there old boxing days,
but i dont believe andy knew nate had 2 boxing coaches training him,
so when i introduced myself to andy i gave him my card from my gym and he just laughted because he thought he was coming to the fight to fight nate the wrestler, not nate the boxer...
andy seemed like a cool cat, and your right... he was one of the best boxers to come out of oregon,
andy is the last (male) boxer from oregon to win the national golden gloves,
(female boxer molly mcconnell won a few yrs back)
andy lost in the finals to the great meldrick taylor for the olympic team spot,
andy would have had a great pro career but a consistant right hand injury set him back.


I remember the fight. It was shortly after I started training there. Mike had only been training with Andy for a few weeks I think. That was one hell of a standup fight for two wrestlers. Both guys got good shots in and it was one for the ages as far as sportfight goes. Both those guys are gonna be somebody in the mma world, its only a matter of time. Which gym do you coach at? Quest? I have been doing the mma thing for a while now on and off but recently decided that due to an ankle injury I suffered in college playing football, and my love for standup fighting I would pursue either boxing or muay thai. I know it might be a bit late considering my age (24), but I still have a lot of fight in me. Andy is a great coach too, the guys from braveheart are gonna shock people with their boxing skills. Its too bad the gym moved to far away for me to attend as much as I was. I think that boxing is under utilized in mma. Nobody uses the jab, and nobody tries to slip punches either. Some of the best fighters use boxing to their advantage i.e. GSP, arlovski, bj penn. Banks is a good dude. I met him when he was just young buck (same age as me) while I was working as a bouncer in a bar he and his friends would always fight in. I got to talkin to him one time about boxing and mma and he said he was trying mma. Soon after he said he didn't like getting choked and started to box. He kept me updated on his fights when he was still doin 4 rounders. When he hit the contender I was happy to see him doing good. I hope he gets a fair shake in the boxing biz. Just because he doesn't have an am record doesn't mean he is any less of a fighter. I need to find a new place to train that has good boxing coaches. I have a good base under me now and want to work on upping my game.



some of the guys from quest come to my gym and work on there boxing,
my friend clayton is the head boxing coach at quest,
i dont know alot about the mma thing, but i run a boxing gym in beaverton
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Amateur Boxing Clubs past and present:

Although we have touched on a few boxing clubs such as Portland's Knott Street gym and
North Vancouver's North West Eagles, and a few references to the Astoria Boxing Club,
it would be a real treat and an important historical bonanza if we could all participate in sharing the history of some of the past and present clubs. Who were some of the key organizers,
the coaches and volunteers, the boxers and club cards hosted by the club.

I will attempt to focus on some of the Vancouver Island clubs and some mainland clubs in British Columbia.. Hopefully others can start adding facts and stories from
Oregon, Washington and Idaho. Not sure if Alaska should be thrown into the mix.

Throughout the 1960's the top club on Vancouver Island was the London Boxing & Athletic
Club under the direction of Harry Morris. In 1976, the club folded and was replaced by the
Victoria Athletic Association (Victoria Athletics). Both club also supported other
sports such as soccer, basketball, hockey, and softball.

One club that I belonged to in the Sixties was the Newcastle Boxing Club in Nanaimo, BC
started by the late George Nepper in 1963. The club ceased operations in 1968,
but was replaced by the Nanaimo Boxing Club in 1971. The club was started by
Dan Wright and Brian Zelley with assistance from John Ormandy. Today, the
Nanaimo Boxing club is still in operation and the head coach is a former boxer from the Seventies. Throughout the Seventies, the club hosted numerous club shows and
tournaments such as the 1978 Bathtub Capital Golden Gloves tournament. One of the
winners was Gordie Lawson of the North West Eagles in the 156 lb. senior division.
One of the Everett, Washington boxers was Brett Summers.

Hopefully, we can add other interesting PNW amateur boxing club history.:TU:
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As a follow-up to the 1990 Goodwill Games post, likely the best competitor was Oscar De La Hoya.

Does anyone remember some of the other competitors :??
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Zelley wrote:As a follow-up to the 1990 Goodwill Games post, likely the best competitor was Oscar De La Hoya.

Does anyone remember some of the other competitors :??
OLDH beat Ivan Robinson in finals of 57kg.
Jeremy Williams won bronze.
Tim Austin won gold in 51kg.
Serafim Todorov lost in finals of 54kg.
Shane Mosely lost to Artur Grigoryan in 60kg.
Konstantin Tszyu won gold at 63.5kg, defeating Terron Millett in semifinals on his way to gold.
Raul Marquez lost in finals of 67kg.
Chris Byrd lost in quarterfinals of 71kg division that included Paul Vaden.
Felix Savon won 91kg gold and at 91+ Yevgeny Belousov won gold after stopping Roberto Balado of Cuba.

Pretty damn impressive list of participants, I'd say.
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DCAmateurBoxing wrote:
Zelley wrote:As a follow-up to the 1990 Goodwill Games post, likely the best competitor was Oscar De La Hoya.

Does anyone remember some of the other competitors :??
OLDH beat Ivan Robinson in finals of 57kg.

Pretty damn impressive list of participants, I'd say.
Thanks for the list of some of the competitors.

Getting back to the history of PNW amateur boxing clubs, on some amateur boxing site,
it made reference to
west Washington and Alaska, and east Washington and Idaho.
Now that appears to be a kick in the head for Oregon and British Columbia, Canada.

Of interest, the 2006 BC Golden Gloves were held in Richmond, BC, one of the
Washington clubs was Cappy's Boxing. What is the story behind Cappy's :??

Coaches and officials, BC Boxing (1975 - 1979):

Of the many names some former boxers that are likely remembered
include: Alex Angelomatis, Lou Bujdoso Mike Caird, Dave Coventry,
Joe Cooke, Dick Findlay, Fred Fuller Jr., Elio Ius, Lindy Lindmoser,
Harold Mann, Dave Wylie and Brian Zelley. Some other names include:
Walter Boyce, Rick Brough, Thorkey Larsen, Bert Lowes, Vic Murdoch,
Len Walters and Ron Whalley, and many more.

Does anyone remember John Amos in the TV show "Good Times".
Before becoming a TV star, I believe he took part in amateur boxing
in the Sixties in the PNW.:?? :??
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Hastings Community Cenre Boxing Club (history) - Vancouver, BC

Don't believe it has been in operation for a number of years.
I do know it was active from 1959 to the late 1980's.

It was in 1953 when Pat O'Reilly and Val Roach formed the St. Helens Athletic Club in the
east end of Vancouver. The club served as a foundation for the Hastings boxing club
in 1958. A couple of persons that helped in the Sixties included Walter Boyce.
Boyce went on to form the Astoria Boxing Club about 1966. :TU:
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The 2009 BC Golden Gloves will take place on May 9 th. - 10 th
at Richmond, BC, Canada.

Host club will be the "Lights Out Boxing Club".

Boxers are expected from various regions such as Kelowna and Nanaimo.

Of interest, in a Vancouver Province report concerning the 2007
B C Golden Gloves, one of the boxing judges indicated it was the best Golden Gloves since the 1967 B C Diamond Belt tournament. :box: :TU:
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ALL STAR BOXING - March 23 rd., 1968 - Northlake Athletic Club, Seattle, Washington

Billy Gray vs Frankie Scott
Andy Anderson vs Nicky McDonald
Fred Fuller vs Fraser Scott
Lee Thode vs Wilbur Seales
Neil Knight vs Brian Zelley
Gary Ferrari vs John Gamble

Persons that have a rich understanding of Pacific Northwest Boxing should remember
many of the namers.
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LIGHTS OUT at 250 Willingdon, Burnaby, BC, Canada

November 6 th marks the last boxing card at the old Boxing BC training site and headquarters
in Burnaby, BC. At the present time it has been the training facility for the
North Burnaby Boxing Club which was started several years ago with folks like
former Canadian Olympic boxer Manny Sobral.

After over 26 years, the facility that was an important part of amateur boxing in
British Columbia will turn out the lights and it will become just another "Golden Memory"
for many. For others, it was also a place when their boxing dreams were dashed.

In the eighties, it was an important site for Provincial tournaments and even some
National action with the staging of the 1984 Junior Nationals and senior's Olympic
Games box-off competition which saw boxers like Shawn O'Sullivan secure a trip to
the 1984 LA Games.

In 1984 and 1988, the Willingdon facility also served as a training site of
the Canadian Olympic boxing teams that included Lennox Lewis in both years.

Not only active boxers, but former boxers attended the facility to serve as coaches
or ring officials. One such person was Lindy Lindmoser who once faced a boxer
by the name of Cassius Clay now known as Muhammad Ali.

One of the Provincial tournaments that I served as an official, along with such
well known folks such as Bert Lowes, Fred Fuller and Ron Whalley, was the
1984 BC Junior Golden Gloves. Of interest, one of the boxers at that tournament
was Manny Sobral. He earned a victory over Campbell River's Mike Wood to win
the lightweight division and be selected Junior Golden Boy runner-up, the
Jr. Golden Boy was Tony Duffy who faced Shane Galloway and Tony Francis. :bag:

So after November 2009, the doors will close but the golden memories will linger-on
through the passages of time.
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So, I am the John Cowan mentioned in the Portland Golden Gloves and it was my son who looked up my name to see about all the stories I have told him. It is wonderful to hear the old names, Fred Fuller Jr, Ken McDonald (I lost to him in the Emerald Gloves at the East Vancouver Boxing Club) He was 6'4 and I was 5'6 and I remeber that it was a hell of a fight. Dave Wylie a personal friend. Wow it is great to see that some one is interested in this time. It was in my mind the great time for boxing.

I trained with all these guys. I boxed against them. I was friends with Frankie Scott( he beat me twice and I beat him twice. I trained with Freddie, Dave , Lindy( who by the way fought Cassius Clay). Yes the golden gloves in those days were great.

But this thread is about boxing yesterday and one of the reasons there was a USA and Canada connection was because of people like Don Cowan (yes my father), Stan Smith, Pat Wes, Jim Wilson, John Wylie and others. The East Vancouver Boxing Club, the Vancouver Firefighters Club Hastings Community Center. There were many people involved in the British Columbia Amateur Boxing Association. I believe it was the best at the time. For 2 maybe 3 years the best club in Vancouver was the East Vancouver Boxing Club. It was my Dad who organized and implemented all those trips to the USA. He also organized trips to Prince George, Nanaimo, Salt Spring Island and many other places. During that time boxing was popular and it was easy to fill a hall.

Just a note I trained with Len Walters, his son is Dale Walters, and my son plays lacrosse with his son.
It is wonderful to be on a forum such as this. My father liked to keep records and I have his stuff. It has been a while since I have looked at his records, I will go through his records and see what he has written down. Maybe I will call some of the people mentioned and we could have a great chat about the old days.

-John
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Of interest, the 2006 BC Golden Gloves were held in Richmond, BC, one of the
Washington clubs was Cappy's Boxing. What is the story behind Cappy's :??
Cappy is still alive and well and coaching in Washington. His primary focus was women boxers when the females got started. I saw him at the National PAL this year.
Of the many names some former boxers that are likely remembered
include: Alex Angelomatis,
Ah, Alex - brother of Astoria's George Angelomatis. Never knew Alex when he competed but he came to the Blue & Gold for years as an official.
Bert Lowes,
Bert came down for one (thank God!) Blue & Gold - I think he was at least 80 years old and his officiating, especially refeering, reflected his advanced age. :DD
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To JOHN COWAN

Good to hear from you, say hello to DAVE WYLIE if you see him

Also, you or your son are welcome to join the "Amateur Boxing in British Columbia"
group site on Facebook.

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Bert Lowes,
Bert came down for one (thank God!) Blue & Gold - I think he was at least 80 years old and his officiating, especially refeering, reflected his advanced age. :DD[/quote]

Funny, but after the laughter stops, there is another story. Bert is one of only seven
boxing folks included in the BC Sports Hall of Fame. Good on the seven, but that means a bunch of folks have been overlooked. Former boxers, coaches, officials and other builders have been overlooked even in the boxing programs of past Provincial Tournaments. :shame:
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I found this website by accident, was curiously searching some family members names and found this one. Lindy Lindmoser was my "grandfather in law" I suppose you could say. He is my auntie's father and was a loved and respected member of our family. It's nice to see him talked about, he was a great man who gave the best... if you could stand how hard they were.... back massages. As a kid I just remember he was the "man who fought Ali" and that his hands were the biggest I had ever seen. RIP Lindy.
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Zelley
Just wondering if you remember a fighter out of the North West Eagles Club in North Van: Fred Buckle. He spent a short time in boxing but did some good things.
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Ken Buckle wrote:Zelley
Just wondering if you remember a fighter out of the North West Eagles Club in North Van: Fred Buckle. He spent a short time in boxing but did some good things.

Yes I Remember FRED BUCKLE, I belive he was highly ranked in BC in the early to mid-Seventies. So what is the status of Fred now and where is he?
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Fred is living on vancouver island but is not involved with boxing any more. I was sure he won at the BC golden gloves, bronz glove,emeral gloves and buckskin gloves as he was a relacement to fight Dave Kibby and won. but I can't find anything to confirm this. Just wondering if you could help.
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Ken Buckle wrote:Fred is living on vancouver island but is not involved with boxing any more. I was sure he won at the BC golden gloves, bronz glove,emeral gloves and buckskin gloves as he was a relacement to fight Dave Kibby and won. but I can't find anything to confirm this. Just wondering if you could help.

From an old newspaper - the headline
BUCKLE DOWN DANNY TATTON

It was the story about FRED BUCKLE defeating Danny Tatton for the third time.
This third bout took place at the BC Festival of Sports boxing tournament.

One of the three bouts took place in Nanaimo.
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I was just wondering if anyone remembers Dynamite Dennis, Marcellos Allen, Gil Whitfield,Gary Sykes, Terrel Horsly, Blair Daniels,and Ray Monge of the 80's Knott Street boxing team??
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our wildest dreams - who would have guessed that this forum thread
with the words KEY and GOLDEN in the first line of post one would be
symbolic of the importance of this forum topic and BOX REC.

It truly has been a GOLDEN KEY in unlocking the mystery of the
LOST FIGHTER.

In another post - the word HOPE was like a lead jab that found the mark
that turned into victory.

Only in my WILDEST DREAMS did I expect this forum topic would be
the GOLDEN KEY thanks Box Rec for setting the stage for the story
about the search for THE LOST FIGHTER :TU:
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THE GORDIE LAWSON STORY continues:

* Well over four years have passed since talking about former boxer Gordie Lawson
and I am pleased to say that Gordie was one of the 2013 inductees into the
British Columbia Amateur Boxing Hall of Fame. Thanks to all those that talked
about Gordie on this thread as I'm sure it helped tell his story following his nomination. :bag:
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JohnC wrote:So, I am the John Cowan mentioned in the Portland Golden Gloves and it was my son who looked up my name to see about all the stories I have told him. It is wonderful to hear the old names, Fred Fuller Jr, Ken McDonald (I lost to him in the Emerald Gloves at the East Vancouver Boxing Club) He was 6'4 and I was 5'6 and I remeber that it was a hell of a fight. Dave Wylie a personal friend. Wow it is great to see that some one is interested in this time. It was in my mind the great time for boxing.

I trained with all these guys. I boxed against them. I was friends with Frankie Scott( he beat me twice and I beat him twice. I trained with Freddie, Dave , Lindy( who by the way fought Cassius Clay). Yes the golden gloves in those days were great.

But this thread is about boxing yesterday and one of the reasons there was a USA and Canada connection was because of people like Don Cowan (yes my father), Stan Smith, Pat Wes, Jim Wilson, John Wylie and others. The East Vancouver Boxing Club, the Vancouver Firefighters Club Hastings Community Center. There were many people involved in the British Columbia Amateur
Boxing Association. I believe it was the best at the time. For 2 maybe 3 years the best club in
Vancouver was the East Vancouver Boxing Club. It was my Dad who organized and implemented all those trips to the USA. He also organized trips to Prince George, Nanaimo, Salt Spring Island and many other places. During that time boxing was popular and it was easy to fill a hall.

Just a note I trained with Len Walters, his son is Dale Walters, and my son plays lacrosse with his son.
It is wonderful to be on a forum such as this. My father liked to keep records and I have his stuff. It has been a while since I have looked at his records, I will go through his records and see what he has written down. Maybe I will call some of the people mentioned and we could have a great chat about the old days.

-John
Well four years have flashed by John, and it was good to see all those names.
Not sure if you know, but in 2010, six of us started the
"British Columbia Amateur Boxing Hall of Fame" and in 2010 three of the first 15
selected were Dale Walters, Freddy Fuller and Frankie Scott.
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