Hypothetical Match-Up Game

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Might need more than one fight, IMO. Firpo takes at least one, by KO.

Great match --- Conn vs. Holyfield at Cruiserweight...I can see Buffer having fun with this line during the intros, "Fifteen rounds at a hundred-ninety pounds!"
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Conn comes in way light and is stopped in the 13th. He tries to stay
on the outside, but Holyfields punch rate saps him. Holy's jaw is able
to absorb most of Conn's clean shots.

Holyfield TKO 12.

Nicolay Valuev (current) Vs Jim Flynn (1910) 15 rounds.
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Valuev on points. A wretched match-up, LOL.

Set for 2001: Vernon Forrest vs. Kostya Tszyu at 147lbs...
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Kostya in a late rounds rally ending in a TKO.

John Conteh Vs Eddie Mustafa Muhammad.......Why did this never happen by the way?
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BoxBuzz wrote:Kostya in a late rounds rally ending in a TKO.

John Conteh Vs Eddie Mustafa Muhammad.......Why did this never happen by the way?
Eddie Mustafa Muhammad imo, by a close but fair UD.

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Marvin Johnson v Clinton Woods. LH
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observer1 wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:Kostya in a late rounds rally ending in a TKO.

John Conteh Vs Eddie Mustafa Muhammad.......Why did this never happen by the way?
Eddie Mustafa Muhammad imo, by a close but fair UD.

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Marvin Johnson v Clinton Woods. LH


I would pick Johnson to set the pace,control the action,be the initiater of aggression,and pick apart Woods en route to a corner stoppage after round 10.


Next Up:

Jorge Castro(1994 version) vs Juan Domingo Roldan(1984 version) :TU:

MW Battle of Maulin Brawlin Sluggers 8)

12 Rounds :box:


Too much of a stumper i see.

I personally would pick Castro.

Very similiar styles but Jorge was a bit more rugged.

Jorge Castro wins this by 11th Round TKO.


Corrie Sanders("South African" 2002 version) vs Gerrie Cooney(1982 version)

Prime vs Prime

12 Rounds

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Cooney puts his lights out in four, IMO. The left hook turns the trick, after a shaky first round.

Felix Trinidad vs. Antwun Echols at Middleweight...
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I think it's closer than people think, but Trinidad was a class above. Late KO for Tito.

Ray Mancini vs Michael Katsidis
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Mancini stops Katsidis on cuts, arising from an early knockdown to do so. They are not in the same class, but you have to respect Katsidis --- he not only goes for it hard, he never shies away from a challenge. A bridge too far in Mancini, though.

Manny Pacquiao (Current) vs. Shane Mosley (1998) as Lightweights?
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:Mancini stops Katsidis on cuts, arising from an early knockdown to do so. They are not in the same class, but you have to respect Katsidis --- he not only goes for it hard, he never shies away from a challenge. A bridge too far in Mancini, though.

Manny Pacquiao (Current) vs. Shane Mosley (1998) as Lightweights?

Pacquiao Wins by Narrow Split Decision.


Gene Fullmer(1961 version) vs Jean Claude Bouttier(1971 version)

15 Rounds

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having only just stopped laughing at the chuvalo 100 round contest i posit this..

fullmer too tuff for the frenchman. ref stops this one in 6 rounds.

heavyweight duel;
roy jones (2005 version) v bob satterfield (peak)
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Going to give it to Satterfield on a late KO. Jones just not sure of who or what he was by that stage of the game.

At Lightweight: Mosley (1998) & Mayweather (2002)...
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:Going to give it to Satterfield on a late KO. Jones just not sure of who or what he was by that stage of the game.

At Lightweight: Mosley (1998) & Mayweather (2002)...

Mayweather takes it by SD.

115-113 114-113 113-116


Tommy Morrison vs Bernardo Mercado

12 Rounds

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Bernardo Mercado, kayo 8th round. He was a stronger guy and seemed more durable to me, made of tougher stuff. Morrison's left hook, however, almost defeats Mercado, as he sends him down three times during the first seven stanzas, but...Mercado also duplicates the feat... :wink:


Tony Danza, vs, Mickey Rourke, 10 rounds :box: why not add the Hollywood glitz?
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Tony Danza by smooth KO in the 3rd. Rourke was a poser.

Jeremy Williams vs Marvis Frazier @ HW
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tzyuforever wrote:Tony Danza by smooth KO in the 3rd. Rourke was a poser.

Jeremy Williams vs Marvis Frazier @ HW
Williams on a close decision, IMO. Strange bout to watch.

Ike Ibeabuchi (1999) vs. Andrew Golota (1996)...A whole lotta ouch, me-thinks :o
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A pretty interesting match up.

Without going down the DQ path...
Though it is very likely that Golota does something retarded and
gets himself DQ in this fight.

I can see both men winning this one.

Ike sets a fast pace from the get go, but struggles with Golota's
constant and hard jab. Both men land the right hand, with Ike flooring
golota in the 7th round. Golota gets back up and manages to hold
on for the remainder of the fight.

Loading up on his shots Ike struggles to land cleanly as Golota
thumps his jab home. 12 rounds just does not seem like enough
come the end of this one as both men look worn but still have it
left in them.

Golota SD12. The crowd roars and a rematch is demanded.

Jess Willard (1915) vs Bernard Hopkins 2008 12 rounds.
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Hopkins hasn't the legs in his prime to win this one, & holding as much as he does in 2008 would simply exhaust him. It wouldn't take long. Willard stops a defenseless Hopkins along the ropes in four. Willard could punch by Heavyweight standards, & he would not even blink at Hopkins' best punches. He'd devastate the Hopkins chin.

Ibeabuchi (1999) against Bowe (1995)...
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Ike manages to win the decision over a quickly tired Bowe, who
shows moments of his past 'glory' but does not stay active
enough during each round.

Ike UD 12.

Re- Hopkins - Willard...I see Hopkins stopping big Jess :P

Oscar De Lahoya (2002) Vs James J Corbett (1892) 12 rounds.

I figure I would match some of these HW greats with men
of the modern era, similar size and build to those that they would
have faced.
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Willard was tough shit. He lasted two rounds with a broken jaw, missing teeth, & cracked ribs --- on a three-year lay-off. He stood up to Firpo's dynamite power for eight rounds at forty-two years of age. Hopkins couldn't do the kind of damage Dempsey did, so how long would Willard last against the Middleweight's punches? Forever, that's how long. Hopkins would be exhausted holding a man of that size, & God only knows how his chin would react. Queer street with the first serious blow, me-thinks.

De La Hoya looked rejuvenated in his only fight of 2002, but Vargas ain't Corbett by any measure, & that's before you factor in the size disparity between a Jr. Middleweight & a Heavyweight. Twelve rounds lightens the load on Oscar, but not enough. A great tactical match-up on a pound-for-pound scale, but the size is too much to overcome for a man who couldn't beat a large Middleweight in Hopkins. Corbett by KO in eight. Bad night at the office for my boy :(

Look forward to your next mismatch, Kym :lol:

What about Carpentier against Bivins for the Light-Heavyweight crown, eh? Fifteen rounder...
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i loved jimmy bivins, if he was fighting today he'd be considered one of the all time greats. carpentier has his hands full and sensibly retires on his stool after 5 rounds of soaking up bivins's best.

ok, sit back and enjoy....

tony zale v jake lamotta

both men at peak condition in chicago, illinois.
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Zale just that little bit more varied in his assault, & not a man short on toughness himself, wins a close decision. Would've made for a great spectacle. The crowd demands a rematch at the final bell.

How about...

Camacho, Sr. & Castillo at Lightweight over twelve rounds?
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:Zale just that little bit more varied in his assault, & not a man short on toughness himself, wins a close decision. Would've made for a great spectacle. The crowd demands a rematch at the final bell.

How about...

Camacho, Sr. & Castillo at Lightweight over twelve rounds?

Camacho by UD.


Kelly Pavlik vs Chris Eubank at 168

12 Rounds

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AngryGoon38 wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Zale just that little bit more varied in his assault, & not a man short on toughness himself, wins a close decision. Would've made for a great spectacle. The crowd demands a rematch at the final bell.

How about...

Camacho, Sr. & Castillo at Lightweight over twelve rounds?

Camacho by UD.


Kelly Pavlik vs Chris Eubank at 168

12 Rounds

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Intresting bout, at 160, Pavlik would certainly be favorite, but at 168, a Prime Eubank would be too classy.

imo, Eubank by a Close but fair UD, my opinion,

Antonio Tarver v Lacey, 2008 versions

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As for Willard V Hopkins, i personally think Hopkins takes a UD.
Willard may have taken a beating against Dempsry and Firpo, but Hopkins has never won his bouts relying on his power, but more on his skills and craftiness, and has never really come close to getting KO'd himself. IMO, it would be another Hopkins v Pavlik, with Hopkins simply schooling him, even if he is passed it at 2008, i think he woud still be good enough, (imo only of course)
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Re- Hopkins vs Willard


Tom McMahon who at 5'11 and 175-180lbs who would never
have the talent of Hopkins even in 2008....and who is essentially
a smaller man than Hopkins.

Gunboat Smith who at 6'2 is taller than Bernard but is around
the same weight also...but not near the skill level of Hopkins
managed to outpoint the big giant.

While bravery and durability is a trait that Willard exhibited I
do not think he fares well against a talented, in shape, skilled
fighter regardless of size.
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