Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Randyman wrote:
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kikibalt wrote:JOHNNY LIRA
By Jim Amato

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The city of Chicago has produced its share of outstanding professional fighters. One of them was a tough as nails lightweight who campaigned in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s. His name was Johnny Lira and he fought his way into the top echelon of the lightweight rankings.

Lira turned pro in 1976 and quickly gained notice by winning his first twelve fights. In 1977 he drew with Manuel Lopez but defeated Lopez in a return bout. Johnny hit the big time in 1978 when he received a shot at the United States Boxing Association lightweight title. His opponent was the highly ranked southpaw bomber Andy Ganigan. Johnny was a decided underdog going in but he shocked the boxing establishment by stopping Ganigan in round six. Lira then went to New York’s Madison Square Garden to outscore the talented Larry Stanton. Lira was now high in the ratings and in 1979 he received a shot at the World Boxing Association’s version of the lightweight title. Their champion was a hard-hitting bomber from Venezuela named Ernesto Espana. It was a gruelling fight but Espana emerged victorious stopping Johnny in nine rounds. Lira would suffer a broken jaw for his gallant effort.

In 1980 Johnny traveled to Spain and dropped an eight round decision to Andoni Amana. He would later lose a ten round duke to the flashy Howard Davis Jr. In 1981 Lira would post a ten round win over Ohio’s rugged Bobby Plegge. Johnny was then outdueled over ten rounds by Nicky Furlano and the was stopped in nine rounds by Willie Rodriguez for the USBA super lightweight title.Lira regrouped in 1982 scoring a points verdict over Canadian Al Ford. Johnny then lost a tough call to former world champion Alfredo Escalera. Lira would come back to win four fights but in 1984 he lost a ten rounder to Russell Mitchell. That was his last fight.

Lira hung them up with a fine record of 29-7-1. He scored fifteen knockouts. Johnny himself was stopped on two occasions.

hi guys, im on vacation in Colorado at the moment.
Great stuff on here as usual.
Randy, that post you made about daughters is wonderful my friend.
Johnny Lira , as I mentioned before, is a guy I know pretty well and trained with in Chicago.
I will always remember after he kod Gannigan, he came strutting into the gym and said, "as soon as Andy turned it into a streetfight, I knew I was gonna knock him out".
Lira is a tough guy and loves to mix it up.
One day he was sparring with Louie Mateo in the gym and for some reason, threw a knee into Louies groin touching off a near Melee.
There are all kinds of Lira stories out there.
Lately he has been ill with a liver disease, but I heard he is doing better.
I will be back in a few days gents.
Colorado? Man I got cold just reading that! Funny how a guys real rep always precedes him. I had always heard he was street tough. You hear things over the years. Glad to know with Lira it wasn't bullshit. If he's a friend of yours Brian, he must be an alright guy. I'll keep Lira in my prayers. Have fun with the family! Take a lot of pictures, you'll be glad you did.

Randy :TU:
Thanks for the info on Lira.

-Rick
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Rick:

Trivia question answer: Sugar Ray Robinson and Tommy Ryan, both interred at the Inglewood Park Cemetery, not far from the Forum.

Hammerin's Hank is buried at the Angelus Rosedale Cemetery in LA.

Follow-up question: What other all-time great is buried at Inglewood Park Cemetery?
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kikibalt wrote:[quote="Rick Farris"At the moment, neither do I. "Eli Stone" was cancelled and we wrapped last week. I have things scheduled in the new year, but I like not working. Frank, I want what you have. A kept man, lot's of respect, time to sleep when you feel like it, kids grown. Just keep the boss happy and your home free. We still gotta get up in the morning when that bed is nice and warm. You got it wired, you're my fu__king hero!

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Rick...Kick back and enjoy it, you'll be back to work in no time, I'm workin', kind of, spenting most of my time working on the 2009 CBHOF, getting material for the program, bio's, photos etc,etc, and sending it via e-mail to the printer, Don is slow down with his back surgery so I have to help him more this year.[/quote]
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I start a pilot for ABC on the 24th, that's a 15 day gig. After that season two of "The Cleaner" starts filming and I'll return to that. After The Cleaner wraps in July, I'm taking off. I want to do that Jofre interview in Brazil, and then just hangout in Bahia for awhile. I want to go everywhere in the world and interview the best fighters. Why not?

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raylawpc wrote:Rick:

Trivia question answer: Sugar Ray Robinson and Tommy Ryan, both interred at the Inglewood Park Cemetery, not far from the Forum.

Hammerin's Hank is buried at the Angelus Rosedale Cemetery in LA.

Follow-up question: What other all-time great is buried at Inglewood Park Cemetery?
Tom....How come you're into dead people today?.... :-?
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I guess because I want to KILL this @(*&(&(*&## message board for kicking me off every other message and for deleting your message before I can get it. :witzend: :witzend:
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Randyman wrote:
Expug wrote:Rick and Randy,
Do you guys remember a made for tv movie about the Manson family murders from the seventies?
I dont remember the actual name of it, but I do remember it being a chilling show.
Also did any of you guys see the old Tom Snyder interview of Charlie in the joint?
It must have been probably 1981 or so.
Brian, I checked IMDB. There were two movies made about Manson. One was Helter Skelter (1976) which Rick mentioned in an earlier post and the other was Charles Manson Superstar (1989). I saw the first, Helter Skelter, but I'm not sure if I saw the second. I do remember seeing an interview years ago, it was probably the one with Snyder. Manson is one freaking eerie guy. Joe Frazier once said of Roberto Duran "He reminds me of Charles Manson". In his prime, Duran did have a crazy look.

Randy :box:
Thanks Randy.
Happy New Year to you and Jeri also my friend.

Also, Happy New Year to my pals here Rog,Maria, Rick,Monica, Frank, Tom, Dan, Pops,Bennie,Ed,
As I posted before, getting to know you all was one of the highlights of the year.
You all are tops.
Pure Class.
Your Pal till the end
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raylawpc wrote:
Expug wrote:Rick and Randy,
Do you guys remember a made for tv movie about the Manson family murders from the seventies?
I dont remember the actual name of it, but I do remember it being a chilling show.
Also did any of you guys see the old Tom Snyder interview of Charlie in the joint?
It must have been probably 1981 or so.
That was Helter Skelter - the movie Rick referred to above.

At one time, I was very interested in the Manson murders, and I audio taped the whole Manson interview. Long before the video tapes.

The Bugliosi book is one reason I'm a lawyer. I always thought about being a lawyer from the time I was a kid, but Bugliosi's book really solidified my desire to be a lawyer. I went to law school to be a prosecutor like Bugliosi - and here I am an estate and tax lawyer. :oo Go figure . . . :witzend:
Guys, meet the modern Clarence Darrow, if you ever fine youself in the can, call Clarence Darrow,
A.K.A Tom Ray.... :TU: :box:
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raylawpc wrote:Rick:

Trivia question answer: Sugar Ray Robinson and Tommy Ryan, both interred at the Inglewood Park Cemetery, not far from the Forum.

Hammerin's Hank is buried at the Angelus Rosedale Cemetery in LA.

Follow-up question: What other all-time great is buried at Inglewood Park Cemetery?
Rosedale, yes, that's the name. We shoot a lot of films there. In the movie "Colors", we used Rosedale for a funeral scene. I wasn't sure where Robinson was buried, and who the other all-time great is you are referring to? Ike Williams?

-Rick
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Rick Farris wrote:
raylawpc wrote:Rick:

Trivia question answer: Sugar Ray Robinson and Tommy Ryan, both interred at the Inglewood Park Cemetery, not far from the Forum.

Hammerin's Hank is buried at the Angelus Rosedale Cemetery in LA.

Follow-up question: What other all-time great is buried at Inglewood Park Cemetery?
Rosedale, yes, that's the name. We shoot a lot of films there. In the movie "Colors", we used Rosedale for a funeral scene. I wasn't sure where Robinson was buried, and who the other all-time great is you are referring to? Ike Williams?

-Rick
Jeffries. He's buried right up near the entrance.
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kikibalt wrote:
raylawpc wrote:
Expug wrote:Rick and Randy,
Do you guys remember a made for tv movie about the Manson family murders from the seventies?
I dont remember the actual name of it, but I do remember it being a chilling show.
Also did any of you guys see the old Tom Snyder interview of Charlie in the joint?
It must have been probably 1981 or so.
That was Helter Skelter - the movie Rick referred to above.

At one time, I was very interested in the Manson murders, and I audio taped the whole Manson interview. Long before the video tapes.

The Bugliosi book is one reason I'm a lawyer. I always thought about being a lawyer from the time I was a kid, but Bugliosi's book really solidified my desire to be a lawyer. I went to law school to be a prosecutor like Bugliosi - and here I am an estate and tax lawyer. :oo Go figure . . . :witzend:
Guys, meet the modern Clarence Darrow, if you ever fine youself in the can, call Clarence Darrow,
A.K.A Tom Ray.... :TU: :box:
That's me . . . the Clarence Darrow of the Internal Revenue Code!! :TU:
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raylawpc wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
raylawpc wrote:Rick:

Trivia question answer: Sugar Ray Robinson and Tommy Ryan, both interred at the Inglewood Park Cemetery, not far from the Forum.

Hammerin's Hank is buried at the Angelus Rosedale Cemetery in LA.

Follow-up question: What other all-time great is buried at Inglewood Park Cemetery?
Rosedale, yes, that's the name. We shoot a lot of films there. In the movie "Colors", we used Rosedale for a funeral scene. I wasn't sure where Robinson was buried, and who the other all-time great is you are referring to? Ike Williams?

-Rick
Jeffries. He's buried right up near the entrance.
Good to know! Especially for a Burbank guy.

-Rick
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Amir Khan at Freddie Roach's Wild Card Gym . . .

That's the title of a ten-minute YouTube peak at Amir Khan working pads with Freddie Roach prior to his recent KO win in England. I don't know how to post it here, it's on YouTube.

-Rick
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BLACK MORNING

"Listo?"
Yes he was ready. No where to go but the street at night when it was cold and everything was closed. He wished it wasn't New Years Eve. Everything was closed except in that part of town where the girls,not many,still walked along. Maybe they didn't want to go home either.

The old woman behind the cage took the money. He followed the dark skinned girl. She limped a little with her step. She wore a multi layer of brown and black sweaters. Her hands were inside the pockets. There was little light to see.
"Cuidate",she said to him.
He was afraid he was going to fall. He couldn't see where he was standing.

A light from the ceiling. A sink. She turned on the faucet. The water did not come out right away. Then it trickled. A small bar of soap to wash was on the edge of the sink.

The bed that was never slept in. A dank pillow that countless heads leaned against.
"No sirve mi mano",she said.
Her hand was shriveled and lifeless. She put it back inside the sweater.
"Embolio",she said.
She had a stroke ,she said, when she was a little girl.

Everything was just motions until he was finished.He wanted it to be over. He could hear her lungs weeze.He would remember that sound for the rest of his life. She was struggling. Her eyes open,looking away,not saying anything. She was dark and heavy. Black hair clipped short. She kept the sweaters on. It was very cold. The concrete floor felt like ice.

"Le gusta?"she asked.
"Si me gusta."
He didn't like it . She didn't like it either,but that wasn't important.
"Donde vives?," he asked .
"Abajo"
Somewhere down below the street where there were no lights at night. Nothing on New Years Eve.

He always asked how many children. She said seven. There were very far away. Far away on the edge of a new year. She got the money and made the sign of the cross.
"Feliz ano nuevo,"he said .
"Gracias ",she said with a little smile.
He saw a slight vapor drift from his nostrils.
"Cuidate cuando sales", she said .

Yes ,he would walk very carefully in the darkness. On the side walk out side of the hotel,he heard the popping. It must have been gunfire. They were celebrating the new year. He saw the shadow of his car out on the street. The old woman behind the cage turned off the light.The car's image disappeared. The girl, he was just with ,walked by him not saying anything. She walked down the street below.

The night was over. It was morning,but he walked slowly to his car. He couldn't see anything.
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kikibalt wrote:I worked Mando Muniz's corner when he fought and stopped Ernie, I was close to Ernie's manager Howie Steindler and Howie told me before the fight that he tried to talk Ernie out of fighting that nite because Ernie had the flu, and you could see in the fight that Ernie was not right.
Frank . . . I just watched that fight tonight.
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Rick Farris wrote:Amir Khan at Freddie Roach's Wild Card Gym . . .

That's the title of a ten-minute YouTube peak at Amir Khan working pads with Freddie Roach prior to his recent KO win in England. I don't know how to post it here, it's on YouTube.

-Rick
Here it is.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqf2biGfkig
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s1hnvIG6cs
Immeal Laguna vs Mando Ramos
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Randyman wrote:
Rick Farris wrote: Bennie . . . James Garner is the best! During my 32 years working in the film industry I've met a few actors whom I truly like and Jim Garner is one of them. In the 50's, my grandfather was the lighting gaffer on "Maverick", a popular TV show at the time, with Garner. Years later, in the mid 70's when I started out I was at Universal and assigned to the "Rockford Files". Jim Garner remembered my grandfather and took a liking to me, eventually helping me become the shows lighting gaffer. I would eventually work on hundreds of TV & movie productions, but not until I hooked up with Michael Landon would I work for anybody as professional as Garner. Jim is "our" type of a guy. He'd fit in here. No BS with Jams Garner. I'll share a few personal James Garner stories later, they are worth remembering.

-Rick
Rick, James Garner is another of my favorite actors. Like Michael Landon , he is a class act. Of course I don't know him personally, but from what I have read and from interviews that I have seen, he appears to be the real deal. On the Maverick show, he was the best of the Maverick's, but he was at his best as Jim Rockford. I've always felt that Magnum PI was somewhat of an updated version of Rockford. Noah Beery jr. was perfect as "Rocky, his father. Beery must have been a character. Did you meet him?

Maybe it's just me Rick, but as in boxing, they just don't make them like this any more. The new actors and the television shows as well as the movies just do not compare.

Randy :TU:
Tom Selleck (whom I don't particularly like) was actually in an episode of Rockford Files, and he and James Garner pair off as private detectives. There is no doubt Selleck got his break in Rockford.
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"Dick Tiger"

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Will take the grandkids to the snow today. I'll remember the camera this time. Very happy New Year to all the gang :TU: :TU: :TU: Rog
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A Tribute To Mando Ramos
By Randy De La O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cetC-w2307E

You need to have your sound on when you watch this beautiful
tribute to Mando. Thanks Randy.... :TU:
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This is a US amateur team from 1977. Sadly I can only identify 2 (I think). Alex Ramos is beaming in the middle and I think that is Curtis Parker just below him. Hopefully you guys can identify more.
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kikibalt wrote:A Tribute To Mando Ramos
By Randy De La O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cetC-w2307E

You need to have your sound on when you watch this beautiful
tribute to Mando. Thanks Randy.... :TU:
Beautiful Randy, beautiful. Great music too.
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Just like to wish everyone and their families a happy, healthy and peaceful 2009.
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