Taylor gunning for Jean Pascal?

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Taylor gunning for Jean Pascal?

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Just heard that Jermain Taylor is looking for a fight with Jean Pascal, the man who lost a bruising fight to Froch for the vacant WBC title. To build toward a shot at Froch.

Good to hear that they're not relying on HBO money, as it could be on Showtime late March. BUT,

Kind of surprising that he'd go for a tough enough fight when he could have the straight shot at a world title. JT is the mandatory after all.

There always seems to be a reason not to fight Froch.

IF it happens, and IF Pascal (bigger, fresher, albeit less experienced) beats Taylor, wouldn't mind seeing Froch-Pascal 2.

But then would Pascal target one of the other champs?

Must be frustrating for Froch. Hopefully he can keep focused, be impressive and wait out the big fights!
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Taylor is a chump of the highest degree...he gets a chance to fight for the WBC title...but chooses to fight an eliminator for it instead.

He's next in line for a shot at the WBC title...so he chooses to fight man who just lost to the current title holder.

ONLY in boxing would this happen!
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WBC: Jermaine would you like to fight Carl Froch for our WBC Supermiddleweight title?
Taylor: No, I'd prefer to fight an unnecessary final eliminator against Jeff Lacy
WBC: errr OK

[6 months and a comfortable win over Lacy pass by]

WBC: Jermaine you're now mandatory for Froch's WBC title, would you like to fight him now?
Taylor: Errr no thanks, I'd rather fight the bloke that Carl beat before fighting Carl
WBC (and Chambers): Oi Taylor you're a total fcuking prick now get in the ring and take your beating


The prick will probably want a final final final final eliminator against Brian Magee next up before he takes on Carl :roll:
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I wonder if the WBC will just push Karo Murat forward.

Or will they make Murat fight an eliminator (vs Marcus Johnson)?

:lol:

No doubt Sauerland will do everything he can to get it in Germany. (


If it comes to purse bids, and Hennessy wins, would sauerland then pull Murat out with a sudden injury?

This could be neverending.)
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There was far more money available to Jermaine for the Lacy fight because Froch isn't a name. Sad as it is.

As far as I know this is on Showtime. HBO really do have the hump with Jermaine. Or DiBella.
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More money for a Pascal fight as well?

HBO are faffing things up a bit, so at least it's good that they turned to Showtime. But it'd be better if Showtime wanted Froch-Taylor.

Interested to see how the latest "No Intentions" episode develops.
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Froch isn't an option, though, because of his injuries. Jermaine must want a fight sooner.
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Jermaine Taylir has not heart for the game.

Not since Pavlik tumped him down.

I asked the question a while ago..

Is Taylor afraid of Froch? Yes - effin yes!


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What, fight at the end of March - can't wait a couple of days to April when Froch is apparently ready?
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The dates are dictated by the tv networks.
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Sadly they are. However, there must be Showtime dates available for following months.

If Taylor fought Pascal, that's no doubt delay a challenge to Froch to near the end of the year.

WBC hopefully just put someone ahead of Taylor in the rankings. If he doesn't want his shot, give it to someone else, ala Inkin paving the way to pascal.
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If Malcolm Mardy wants to sling mud at Froch after getting his bluff called by the cobra, then he should get his story straight.

At first he declares 'Froch turned down March 28th date' - but then goes on to say that the date wasn't actually finalised !

Like I already said, the guy handles Kessler's 'tings' stateside. He has an agenda.



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Chambers2 wrote:WBC: Jermaine would you like to fight Carl Froch for our WBC Supermiddleweight title?
Taylor: No, I'd prefer to fight an unnecessary final eliminator against Jeff Lacy
WBC: errr OK

[6 months and a comfortable win over Lacy pass by]

WBC: Jermaine you're now mandatory for Froch's WBC title, would you like to fight him now?
Taylor: Errr no thanks, I'd rather fight the bloke that Carl beat before fighting Carl
WBC (and Chambers): Oi Taylor you're a total fcuking prick now get in the ring and take your beating


The prick will probably want a final final final final eliminator against Brian Magee next up before he takes on Carl :roll:

And Magee would beat him.
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From boxingtalk.com
"Jermain wants to get back in the ring as soon as possible, and he wants a major fight. There are a bunch of guys in the kicker, but nothing is done yet. Basically, you can look at the top 168 pounders, and figure out that there's only about a half dozen guys that are major challengers, and that's even if you move up to 175 and fight Glen Johnson at a catchweight. It's going to be someone from amoung that pool of guys, and we're going to make a decision as quickly as possible. Totally honestly, nothing is done yet, as we're on the record."

-Lou DiBella
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If DiBella doesn't come to an agreement, and if he avoids purse bids, give JT's shot to someone else. Simple as. WBC has a strong top 15, so push the next guy forward.

Showtime have been building Dirrell, WBC #2. Dirrell is expendable, a loss isn't the end of the world as Showtime are also building Ward. Dirrell could have had the WBO title shot, but to simplify things he and his promoter declined it. Dirrell has been very aggressive of recent, vulnerable and exciting.

With the strong list of contenders, Froch has plenty to get on with. Does Taylor really have so many options? The easy TV paydays are a thing of the past, and the rival super middle champs... - Kessler the most mature of the champs likely beats Taylor at his own game; Balzsay and Bute will want home advantage...
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Here's the latest

http://boxingconfidential.com/articles.php?id=6159

Dibella and Hennessy talking to each other directly, and things maybe looking a tad more hopefuly with the purse bids situation

Hope Froch gets the fight, really do. It could make his name in America - the number of journalists who say Taylor beat Lacy "impressively" :lol: - and you need the American money for the unifications. How many champs chase their mandatories. Usually champs try to put off hard mandatory challengers.
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Autobarn wrote:If DiBella doesn't come to an agreement, and if he avoids purse bids, give JT's shot to someone else. Simple as. WBC has a strong top 15, so push the next guy forward.

Showtime have been building Dirrell, WBC #2. Dirrell is expendable, a loss isn't the end of the world as Showtime are also building Ward. Dirrell could have had the WBO title shot, but to simplify things he and his promoter declined it. Dirrell has been very aggressive of recent, vulnerable and exciting.

With the strong list of contenders, Froch has plenty to get on with. Does Taylor really have so many options? The easy TV paydays are a thing of the past, and the rival super middle champs... - Kessler the most mature of the champs likely beats Taylor at his own game; Balzsay and Bute will want home advantage...
Dirrell's last fight was fantastic to watch. He showed some true class in spurts. He's obviously got rough edges, but he's a very good boxer.
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I agree on Dirrell - good athlete, good speed/power. Like the latest Ring mag says, he's either all defence (the Curtis Stephens fight) or all offence.

He's more likely to get back on ShoBox with the all offence style. He does look temperamental - seemed to take a knee v Hanshaw and Oganov when under pressure, but eventually snaps out of it and throws damaging shots.
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