Hypothetical Match-Up Game

[Robinson]

Galento comes out hot and boarish, he tries to lock horns
with Tua and bully the Samoan. It does not work. Tua erupts
as he shoves Galento off him. Galento is knocked down
at the end of round one.

The second round see's galento fight flat footed swatting
heavy hooks into Tua's forearms and cranium. A savage right
hand and left hook tears Galento from his feet sending him to
the canvas.

Tua KO 2.

Mike Tyson (1996) vs Ken Norton (1978) 12 rounds.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Two past-it fighters, but not quite yet shot. I give the edge to Norton in a very dangerous fight. I feel he could survive a slowing Tyson through four or five rounds, & then come on. He at least retained great stamina. Tyson would tire, & be hurt late, as he was against the somewhat lighter-hitting Holyfield. Norton on an exhaustion-induced TKO through nine rounds.

Prime-to-prime, it'd be a very different story.

Bowe (vs Holyfield I) against Frazier (vs Ali I). 15 Rounds...

[allworld80]

Wow. Very tough to imagine how this one would go. Bowe's size and skill were would be formidable for Joe, but I have a feeling Joe ends up breaking Bowe down from the bottom up. Late KO for Frazier after an all out war.

Mark Breland vs Kermit Cintron @ 147

[Goodnight, Irene]

Breland too smart to be caught out by Cintron, IMO. Wins a competitive decision.

Graziano vs. Hopkins over fifteen rounds...

[Robinson]

Hopkins TKO 11.

He manages to wear Rocky down with good counters and sudden flurries.
Rocky is like a bull early but slows late on.

Jack Dempsey (1919) Vs Max Baer (1934) 15 rounds.

The two heavy handed giant slayers meet.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Very watchable fight. It's a thundering right hand Dempsey walks into in the second round which first engages the 20,000-strong Staples Center crowd. Dempsey wobbles as he gets to his feet! That shot got there, & how. Baer can't finish, but he has Dempsey holding on. The embarressment for the great Manassa Mauler passes, & Baer proves incapable of taking what the faster, more active Dempsey can dish out in return. TKO6. Dempsey down in the second for a six-count, Baer floored twice in the sixth for counts of eight & six, respectively. Referee Pat Russell says Baer, sporting a mouse under the right eye & a fractured jaw, can't go on after the second knockdown. Dempsey trained Baer for a while. Master beats apprentice, in this one.

May I now present a bout billed as, "The Battle Between Two Whipping Boys To The Stars..." D

Judah (2004). Mayorga (2003). For the right to be clobbered by whichever world-class foe in the Welterweight division isn't doing anything next month :P

[harrygreb]

judah. he still has enough movement and ring smarts to steer clear of ricardo's wild swings when they arrive - they arrive in the 2nd - and zab also has enough in the tank to win a comfortable UD. However, just as you said, in victory he wins a match up with a world class welter with a gap in his diary...carlos palomino.

[allworld80]

I don't see a fight for me so here...

Michael Spinks vs Chad Dawson at 175

[Jaywheel]

I don't see a fight for me so here...

Michael Spinks vs Chad Dawson at 175

Next fight was Judah vs Palomino.

[allworld80]

Oops. Ok, well I'll take Palomino by a close decision.

Now Spinks/Dawson

[Goodnight, Irene]

I'll give Dawson the benefit of the doubt for the moment, & say he lasts the distance. That's all I'm willing to afford him at this stage, though. He has nothing on his resume yet to say he does any better than suffer a 12-0 shut-out to a prime Spinks. Spinks, 120-108.

Archie Moore against Evander Holyfield at 190. Peak-to-peak, over fifteen rounds. Will it be Moore's experience & class of opposition, or Holyfield's size & youth advantage?

[allworld80]

He has nothing on his resume yet to say he does any better than suffer a 12-0 shut-out to a prime Spinks. Spinks, 120-108.

[observer1]

Chad Dawson is good. Rate him better than the likes of Joe, since the has actually made more risks at 26 than Calzaghe has in his entire career at 36.

But, in my opinion, nowhere in Michael Spink's League..

[mhagler91490]

Since no one posted a match-up, I will.

Fernando Montiel vs Robert Quiroga
12 rounds

[Goodnight, Irene]

The match is Moore vs Holyfield at Cruiser.

[allworld80]

Blistering affair that ends with a close decision for Moore.

Sticking with Holyfield, how does he do with Michael Spinks at the same weight?

[Goodnight, Irene]

He nudges past Spinks in the final two rounds to eek out a majority decision. Holyfield was stronger down the stretch at Cruiser than at Heavyweight.

Oba Carr vs. Antonio Margarito over twelve rounds at Welter...

[allworld80]

I've always though Carr was a little underrated, and his prime was actually pretty good. But Margarito eventually gets to him with that withering pressure, and scores a late TKO.

Junior Jones vs Jhonny Gonzalez @ 122

[Goodnight, Irene]

Oooh, sweet pairing. You know, I like Jones on a close --- but clear --- decision. Something similar to, say, Mosley-De La Hoya I, or Morales-Pacquiao I, where one guy is just a step ahead in an otherwise competitive affair. Jones, 7-5, 115-113. I think it'd be a decent fight to watch, too, actually

The Sports Page for 30th March, 1999:

"...& in boxing today, the management of rising Heavyweight prospect Ike Ibeabuchi announced the biggest step-up in class for their charge at a press conference yesterday, when they declared the ink dry on a bout with ex-champion, Mike Tyson, for the 1st of July. Ibeabuchi, originally from Nigeria, & trained by Welterweight legend Curtis Cokes, moved to 20-0 recently, following an impressive fifth-round TKO of elusive Chris Byrd, while Tyson, 45-3, last stopped lightly-regarded Francois Botha in five rounds back in January. The clash is set for twelve rounds at Staples Center in California, & is expected to sell-out quickly."

Oh, to have once been discussing this match in Current Scene

[harrygreb]

ibeabuchi is too sharp for a fading tyson. hits the target at will after the 3rd round and avoids mikes best shots with no trouble. ref calls a halt after a 10 punch unanswered salvo from the african in round 9.

dennis andries v mike rossman - light heavy clash

[Goodnight, Irene]

Rossman KO12 Andries, in an at-times surprisingly sluggish match. Ringsiders felt the bout would've been more entertaining, coming in.

It's been argued for more than three quarters of a century, & now, here in THMUG, we decide...

Dempsey (1919) vs. Tunney (1927). Fifteen rounds...

[AngryGoon38]

Rossman KO12 Andries, in an at-times surprisingly sluggish match. Ringsiders felt the bout would've been more entertaining, coming in.

It's been argued for more than three quarters of a century, & now, here in THMUG, we decide...

Dempsey (1919) vs. Tunney (1927). Fifteen rounds...

I think Tunney would still win a decision in this modified scenario.


Marcel Cerdan vs Bernard Hopkins

@ 160

15 Rounds.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Cerdan on decision, IMO. 9-6, 144-141. Hopkins never dreamed of an opponent this strong during his Middleweight reign.

Kendall Holt (2008) vs. Diobelys Hurtado (1998). Twelve rounds at Jr. Welter...

[allworld80]

Hurtado. Early, often, and gets the late KO for his trouble.

Danny Lopez vs Humberto Soto at a catchweight. Let's say 128.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Hurtado. Early, often, and gets the late KO for his trouble.

Danny Lopez vs Humberto Soto at a catchweight. Let's say 128.

But, TF, ain't you heard? Kendall Holt don't back down, he lays backs down! D