Congratulations FW

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Setanta now have Sauerland fights signed for two years and Top rank, plus Hayemaker all shows will have good matches. If Khan does fight MAB whats the betting the undercard be shit Cook fight aside.
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Its nothing about "insider" information.

Setanta had a deal with SPORTS NETWORK it was deemed "exclusive"

Sports Network were furious that Setanta made a deal with Hayemaker....

Sports Network do not own a promoters licence, allegedly has the promoters licence and promotes shows for Sports Network.

Therefore, allegedly refuses to work for Sports Network... Sports Network cannot have a show, and therefore nothing can be showcased on Setanta.

That is the SN point of view, and this is what Setanta were suing about. Were, maybe still are.

I still believe Setanta have an iron clad case, and would make more money suing than working with Sports Network again.
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But Setanta never had Khan, they should sue him as they did have contract with him.
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leforge wrote:But Setanta never had Khan, they should sue him as they did have contract with him.
Contract with Khan do you mean? Nope, they had a contract with Sports Network. ITV had a contract with Khan but that had run out.
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He very slippery character I bet that contract signed with Setanta had no mention of Khan. Whtaever channel there fights on the bill is full of mismatches!!
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Leforge, allegedly signed no contract with Setanta.... Sports Network did. Thats the "loop hole". There was possibly a mention of all boxers providing allegedly used his promoters licence and licenced them to fight on a SN show.

Sports Network are not promoters.
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Whatever the truth may be there has certainly been some shady dealings by somebody in all of this :D

Anyway, what is MAB and Don King's response to all of this stuff? It's a genuine question by the way as I've not been keeping abreast of who said or did what. Is MAB happy about the whole episode? Has he signed? What is the word stateside?

Fill me in :TU:
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Steve

Nothing from Barrera, King... very silent. Only US fight figure talking is Roach
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Whats the betting that it ends up Khan v Gethin or Fewkes?
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leforge wrote:They never had contract with Khan he was Itv. The whole deal was strange that better of letting him and the mismatches go.
Khan was going to 'come over' after he was finished in the summer with ITV.
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Allegedly Fwanky pulled a fast one by fooling Setanta into thinlking they were getting ALL THE SN fighters - all along Fwank knew that he managed SOME and promoted others.

Fwank fooled them into thinking that they would get Khan, Khan is managed by Fwank and not under Sport Network....or something like that.


Either way, fish face tired to pull a fast one...

As Ali G would say 'Allegedly allegedly'!


:D
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Yes you have to congratulate Frank for putting this one together. The way I see it FW has put enough money into Khan and paid him a fortune and now its up to Khan to prove its all been worthwhile. If Khan was to win FW will continue to pay him well and try to get him a shot at the title. If he loses I think, and its only an opinion, FW will end the PPVs and star billing for Khan. You could say if Khan lost, it was to a ring legend after all and theres no shame in losing to Barrera. I dont see it that way at all, Khan says he will be LW champion and if he fails against a smaller man past his best at 35 what chance has he against a true LW World champion. This fight to my mind is all about finding out how good Khan is at true World level with the advantage of being bigger and much younger in his favour before challenging for a title. I think its a fight he must win to get back on top and be worthy of a title shot. I dont think Khan will beat Barrera and I dont see him winning a title either, he just cant take shots no matter how gifted he is as a boxer.
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DG. wrote:Allegedly Fwanky pulled a fast one by fooling Setanta into thinlking they were getting ALL THE SN fighters - all along Fwank knew that he managed SOME and promoted others.

Fwank fooled them into thinking that they would get Khan, Khan is managed by Fwank and not under Sport Network....or something like that.


Either way, fish face tired to pull a fast one...

As Ali G would say 'Allegedly allegedly'!


:D
This is wrong. You give FW too much credit. I can't be arsed with the legal ballache involved to clarify this though.
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CONGRATULATIONS, FW - WE STILL HAVEN'T HEARD ANY EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THE FIGHT IS ON
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Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
DG. wrote:Allegedly Fwanky pulled a fast one by fooling Setanta into thinlking they were getting ALL THE SN fighters - all along Fwank knew that he managed SOME and promoted others.

Fwank fooled them into thinking that they would get Khan, Khan is managed by Fwank and not under Sport Network....or something like that.


Either way, fish face tired to pull a fast one...

As Ali G would say 'Allegedly allegedly'!


:D
This is wrong. You give FW too much credit. I can't be arsed with the legal ballache involved to clarify this though.
Setanta were well aware that it would take a separate deal to get Khan, he still had two fights left with ITV when they agreed their deal.
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gobbles wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
DG. wrote:Allegedly Fwanky pulled a fast one by fooling Setanta into thinlking they were getting ALL THE SN fighters - all along Fwank knew that he managed SOME and promoted others.

Fwank fooled them into thinking that they would get Khan, Khan is managed by Fwank and not under Sport Network....or something like that.


Either way, fish face tired to pull a fast one...

As Ali G would say 'Allegedly allegedly'!


:D
This is wrong. You give FW too much credit. I can't be arsed with the legal ballache involved to clarify this though.
Setanta were well aware that it would take a separate deal to get Khan, he still had two fights left with ITV when they agreed their deal.
Yes, that's right. And do you think it might have been intimated that Khan would move over Setanta when the ITV deal was finished?
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Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
Yes, that's right. And do you think it might have been intimated that Khan would move over Setanta when the ITV deal was finished?

Might well have been, but they would have been expected to pay. How is that any difference from any deal in any sport? Are Setanta really that naive?
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Difference was though when Khan resigned, SN was on a short term deal with Setanta to show none Khan bills.

When that deal extented (with Setanta) it became an EXCLUSIVE Deal... meaning ALL Sport Network shows would be shown on Setanta... if SN signed and promoted Tyson - he would be included... Thats whats Exclusive means, although Mr Warren seems to have his own definition.

The ONLY way Khan was not going to fight on Setanta after his ITV deal expired - was if Khan didn't fight for SPORTS NETWORK! Lets not forget, when Khan's contract finished on ITV, it finished with Frankie Baby also.... so off course Setanta couldn't predict that Khan was going to fight on their TV, because he was promoter less after his ITV deal expired - however, had he resigned with SPORTS NETWORK! then he yes... Setanta should have had him.

Now we all know, its not rocket science - this allegedly loop hole that was created when Hayemaker signed for Setanta.
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stujones wrote:Difference was though when Khan resigned, SN was on a short term deal with Setanta to show none Khan bills.

When that deal extented (with Setanta) it became an EXCLUSIVE Deal... meaning ALL Sport Network shows would be shown on Setanta... if SN signed and promoted Tyson - he would be included... Thats whats Exclusive means, although Mr Warren seems to have his own definition.

The ONLY way Khan was not going to fight on Setanta after his ITV deal expired - was if Khan didn't fight for SPORTS NETWORK! Lets not forget, when Khan's contract finished on ITV, it finished with Frankie Baby also.... so off course Setanta couldn't predict that Khan was going to fight on their TV, because he was promoter less after his ITV deal expired - however, had he resigned with SPORTS NETWORK! then he yes... Setanta should have had him.

Now we all know, its not rocket science - this allegedly allegedly loop hole that was created when Hayemaker signed for Setanta.
Not true, Setanta signed a long-term deal with Sports Network in April, ITV deal ran until July
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