Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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If this happens its gonna be a bad night for Ben. I'm amazed his people haven't chased down a fight with Munroe. Thats his level. Not a world class danger horse like Cordoba. :surprised:
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WayoftheCass wrote:If this happens its gonna be a bad night for Ben. I'm amazed his people haven't chased down a fight with Munroe. Thats his level. Not a world class danger horse like Cordoba. :surprised:
cash out?
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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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Bernard is wanting to test himself at world level!!

If he wins this no-one can doubt he is world class!!
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I think Bernard has said its now or never , they've probably got sick of maloneys shite . Its been known that bernard wanted the world fight for a while as he thought it was pointless chasing down munroe. He can fall back to euro level if he loses. So now the mcculough fight wont happen.
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Btw do you know how many this place holds for a fight? Id imagine its less than for a concert as the floor space taken up by the ring. Do you think it will sell well?
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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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thepocketrocket wrote:Bernard is wanting to test himself at world level!!

If he wins this no-one can doubt he is world class!!
He'll be a world champion, of sorts.

Good fight, I really like Dunne - in Ireland I think he standards a chance - tough fight to call, Cordoba is excellent obviously, but well not Israel Vasquez.
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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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Still it's only half a title, the regular title. Caballero is the proper champ of the WBA and IBF, Looks like a bad fight, as Cordoba beat Caballero a few years ago.

However Cordoba has done most of his world class work at bantam, maybe this is a factor, but maybe not.
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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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He's been fought to draws and MD by lesser fighters than Dunne.
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Cannibal wrote:He's been fought to draws and MD by lesser fighters than Dunne.

2 draws against Wladimir Sidorenko in Germany i think means a win, lost on a SD to Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym in Thailand, who is now number 4 in the world at S-Bantam 37-36 wins. I dont think they are lesser fighter's then Dunne??

I hope Dunne wins this it would be great but i cant see it..
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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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Cannibal wrote:He's been fought to draws and MD by lesser fighters than Dunne.
The Poonsawat loss was supposed to be controversial. The Sidorenko fights - Cordoba was schooled in the first fight and was the better man second time out.

While these are smaller guys than Dunne, I'm not sure I would say they are lesser than Dunne.

Cordoba has a win over the excellent WBA super champ/IBF champ Celestino Caballero. In his last fight he beat former IBF bantam champ Luis Perez. Cordoba has good form, way better than Dunne...
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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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Has this been cancelled, its not listed on the ticketmaster site anymore.

Still,

theres always................

http://www.ticketmaster.ie/Ricky-Hatton ... ist/941568
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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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I hope it hasn't been cancelled, it was only announced an hour or so ago! Good fight but a tough test for Dunne. Cordoba is decent but if he fills Bernard in then at least a Munroe fight could be made a bit easier! Looking forward to it, I'll be going.
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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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Hey its a good fight, but to call this for the WBA title is a joke.
Ricardo Cordoba has won 1 so called WBA title fight, in that time the real WBA champ has fought 4 times and defended the title each time, he even collected the IBF title in that time!!!!

As i said Dunne v Cordoba is a good fight, but world championship it isn't.
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ffs they dont know yet on buces hour that dunne has a fight and are still talking to wayne mccullough about the dunne fight
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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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Peters has played a blinder pulling this one off. Managing/promoting of the highest order.
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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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Unfortunetly Dunne will get batterd,hes no where near world class....
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I don't think he'll get battered but for the fight to be for the WBA title is a complete farce. I mean when you think about it, if Dunne wins and makes four or five defences for example and Cabellero continues defending then this organisation could conceivably running with two "world" champions. It's cynical, blatant moneymaking of the highest order.

Fair play to Brian Peters though he's done a good job pulling this off.
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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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Just looking through Cordoba's record and I reckon home advantage could be a much bigger advantage than usual in this fight.

Cordoba has only left Panama 3 times in his entire career. Of those 3 fights, he's had 2 draws in Germany and lost in Thailand. Could be some issues with Cordoba when he travels.

You'll have an arena full of LOUD Dunne fans screaming him on. The closest an Irish guy has gotten to anything even resembling a world title in recent times.

0-1-2 on away soil.
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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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I thought Cordoba was unlucky against Siderenko.
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My Name Is Earl wrote:Peters has played a blinder pulling this one off. Managing/promoting of the highest order.
It is nice having a World title fight in Dublin. But Brian Peters is making a balls of tickets and prices look at the price of block L and where the ring is and Im low down in block J for alot cheaper
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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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Okay, just watched his last fight against Perez on Youtube and made a few notes.

PROS

Excellent counter puncher: This guy is most comfortable when he is on the back foot and guys are coming at him. There was a couple of times when Perez tried to up the pace of the fight and bully Cordoba, only for Cordoba to ping a hard counter shot off of his head. If Dunne lets the crowd influence him into going forward, then it will give Cordoba opportunity to tee off and test Dunne's chin.

Good Movement: He is very hard to pin down while he is fresh. He'll be up on his toes, and if you do manage to corner him, you won't keep him there for very long. Not good if Dunne has to chase the fight, especially when you combine it with his counter punching.

Works the body: In the Perez fight he worked the body often and consistently found the target. He seemed to build his gameplan around it in the first half of the fight. I don't recall anyone working Dunne's body extensively in the past, but I get the feeling this guy will. Will be interesting to see how he responds

CONS

Mediocre going forward: The odd time that he went forward, he looked far from world class. He telegraphed his punches and seemed to be MUCH slower getting his shots off than when he was on the back foot. I saw him throw a few at Perez who is a come forward fighter, and miss not by inches, but by feet. A lot of his come forward shots are looping or winged in, and he leaves openings. He seems to think about it too much about what he is doing on the front foot and with Dunne's good head movement and his own good countering skills, he'll have success if he can force Cordoba to come forward.

Leaves himself open: On particular punches, I noticed that he seems to leave himself wide open. The right hook to the body is the main culprit. Any time he threw this (and he did a lot) he almost seemed to be begging to be on the receiving end of a short left hook. In the 11th, Perez even managed to counter him over his left hand guard while he attempted this.

He also over reaches and chases you with the jab sometimes. I've seen him miss and almost try and push it into Perez's face afterwards.

On the rare occassion when he moves inside, he also has a tendency to drop his gloves.

Faded in second half: There was a noticeable change in energy levels in the 7th. Perez was having a LOT more success and was even managing to get Cordoba on the ropes on a few occassions. Cordoba got tagged a lot more in the second half. I would have given Cordoba the first 6 rounds, but would of had him drawing the last 6, 3-3.

Power: Despite a respectable KO record, I'm not convinced that Cordoba packs a punch (Which is why Dunne was matched with him I guess). More than once he caught Perez coming in and landed flush, but Perez didn't so much as wince on any of these occassions. Looking through his record as well and I found that a good chunk of his KO's were against opponents who had a history of getting stopped.

THOUGHTS

Cordoba in a sentence is world class on the back foot, and mediocre on the front foot. Dunne definitely stands a chance in my view, but only if he stays patient and doesn't let the crowd sway his actions.

He needs to try and force Cordoba to come to him and counter punch the counter puncher, because I don't think he has anything to trouble Dunne coming forward.

However, if Dunne is the one who comes forward, then I see a long night of being tagged and probably KOed in store for him.

So my prediction: Whoever stays on the back foot and counters wins, whoever tries to force the pace and come forward loses.

At present, I don't think Dunne will mentally be up for fighting 12 rounds on the back foot with home support behind him, so I am inching towards Cordoba but I can definitely see the route for a Dunne win if he keeps his discipline.
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Autobarn wrote:
Cannibal wrote:He's been fought to draws and MD by lesser fighters than Dunne.
The Poonsawat loss was supposed to be controversial. The Sidorenko fights - Cordoba was schooled in the first fight and was the better man second time out.

While these are smaller guys than Dunne, I'm not sure I would say they are lesser than Dunne.

Cordoba has a win over the excellent WBA super champ/IBF champ Celestino Caballero. In his last fight he beat former IBF bantam champ Luis Perez. Cordoba has good form, way better than Dunne...
i was at cordoba v poonsawat and it wasnt controversial. cordoba started well but poonsawat slowed him down with body shots and took over in the second half of the fight. it was close but the right man won.
dunne hasnt got a chance....
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cordoba isnt a champ - why isnt dunne fighting poonsawat????
cabellro is the champ and poonsawat the mandatory and this interim BS is robbing the Thai of his paydays.
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Re: Bernard Dunne v Ricardo Cordoba

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Bernard Dunne takes a big gamble when he challenges Panama's Ricardo Cordoba for the interim WBA super-bantamweight title in Dublin's O2 Arena on March 21.
Local man Dunne was blasted in a matter of seconds by Kiko Martinez in Dublin in August 2007 for the European super-bantamweight title. Martinez subsequently lost the title in his first defence to Leicester surprise package Rendall Munroe, who totally dominated the Spaniard over 12 rounds, and Dunne, 27-1 (14), was left without much of a plan.
He was brought back slowly by promoter Brian Peters, with three decisions over nondescript foreign opposition, but looked a bit wobbly against Uruguay's Cristian Faccio in Ireland in November and busted up badly, and rumours persist that the tall Irishman is 'chinny', face-first, not a huge puncher and horribly tight at the weight, although he can undoubtedly box a bit.
The announcement of this world title challenge, then, came as a surprise to match the announcements of Khan-Barrera and Haye-Klitschko already this year.
Dunne, who will be 29 by the time of the challenge, faces a 24-year-old who (despite his age) brings plenty of top-flight experience and has lost only to 'hot' Thailander Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym in 37 fights in a world class bantamweight match-up in Thailand in 2005. That came on a split 12-round decision, since when Cordoba was robbed twice in Germany against the excellent Wladimir Sidorenko in cracks at the WBA bantamweight title, both of which were adjudged a draw (two draws in Germany speak for themselves). Cordoba, a tall southpaw fighting machine, moved up to super-bantamweight in 2007 and has reeled off five wins in Panama City. He picked up the interim title with a unanimous decision over Nicaragua's former world champion Luis Alberto Perez in his last fight in September.
Cordoba, it goes without saying, looks like a good 'un.
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