Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Frank, with Mel it was always anyone's guess whether he was going to like someone or not. I will say this, when it came to those that he liked, he was as loyal as a boy scout. You wouldn't find a better friend. Sometimes he would give me a rash of shit about something, and just when I was about to get mad he would pop me with an uppercut, then he would give just a hint of a smile just to let you know everything was cool. Then he would start in about letting myself get caught on the chin by an old man.

I think Mel really enjoyed getting under people's skin. Everyday he went through the same old argument at the gym. He wanted the windows open and everyone else wanted them closed. As soon as someone would close them, he would walk over to the windows and open them, then walk back muttering something about "you f#cking bastids". Still as Rick said. They all like Mel. He was a straight shooter. There was no bullshitting around, no pretenses. What you see is what you get. He was a man of his word.

For all his flaws and eccentric behavior, I loved that man like a grandfather. He wanted me to move in with him but I knew that would never work out. He would have drove me nuts. There was a time when I wasn't getting along with my father and he didn't want me around the house. So I slept in the San Gabriel Riverbed, at Marano Beach, with the hobos. It was no big deal really and I mention it just to make a point. As much as I loved that old curmudgeon I would rather have slept in the riverbed with the hobos than move in with him. I never told him about that.

Randy :box:[/quote]
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:lol: Damn Randy, I understand! I'd also take a river-bed hobo camp to sharing a home with Mel. What happens when you bring home "the broad"? What happens when you come home after 9pm? What happens when an old friend from out of town stops by to say "hello" wearing an earring? What if you want to listen to music? What if you drink a beer and he smells it on your breath? What if you just wander in late, what's to keep him from pulling the trigger of the little pistol he's just stuck between your ribs?

Lots of liabilities living with Mel. hobo camp? Good choice! :TU:


-Rick
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Rick Farris wrote:Davey Contreras . . .

Hey Frank, remember this guy? Here's another that had a winning record and just quit after one loss.

I think Davey Contreras fought out of Teamsters Gym, and so did his brother Victor, or "Butch" as he was known. I was scheduled to fight Butch at the Olympic, but he never showed for the morning weigh-in. Louie was there, said his fighter was sick.

Davey was looking pretty good, unbeaten in nine fights (not all listed by Boxrec). Then they matched him with Frankie Crawford in a ten rounder, a big mistake. Crawford ate his heart. Frankie dropped him twice, and stopped him in the ninth round. One loss- ADIOS!

We should start a seperate classification for these guys, call it - "One Loss Wonders". A loss can be a great learning experience for a boxer, depending on what it teaches them. Take losing to heart, but don't let it take your heart. If you can look down between your legs and still see a pair hanging, your still in the game. Fighters tend to defeat themselves, often before a match takes place.

A guy like Frankie Crawford could intimidate an insecure fighter, just looking at them across the room. Believe it or not, some 43 or 44 years later, I still remember the Davey Contreras-Crawford fight. I liked the Contreras brothers, and Davey was the better boxer of the two, I thought.

You knew them better than I did, Frank. They were Teamsters Gym fighters.


-Rick Farris
Rick...I hate to contradict you but, I'm sure that David Contreras's record on BoxRec is right, I was right there with David and Butch when they were training, in fact I used to spar with'em, I used to go to the gym just to work out ever though I wasn't fighting anymore, and when they need sparring I would help out, David who has passed on was the better fighter of the two brothers.
David was either married or living with an older woman (about 10 years older) who didn't like David fighting, it was like having two opponents, at that time David was working at Sears on Olympic and Soto in E.L.A, he probably figure it was easier to punch the clock then to fight the old lady..... :witzend:

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Career Record © www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1966-09-15 Frankie Crawford Los Angeles, USA L TKO 9
1966-08-04 Wayman Gray Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1966-06-16 Luke Smith Los Angeles, USA W KO 6
1966-06-03 Frankie Sedillo Los Angeles, USA W TKO 5
1966-04-21 Bosco Basilio Los Angeles, USA W PTS 5

Record to Date
Won 4 (KOs 2) Lost 1 Drawn 0 Total 5
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Butch Contreras

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Global Id 89684
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Career Record © www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1971-04-01 Rafael Lopez Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1970-10-03 Frankie Santillan Woodland Hills, USA W PTS 5
1970-09-24 Mamoru Minami Los Angeles, USA W KO 2
1970-05-21 Mamoru Minami Los Angeles, USA L PTS 5
1970-05-14 Enrique Flores Los Angeles, USA W PTS 10
1967-04-20 Vic Jimenez Los Angeles, USA L PTS 4
1966-07-28 Raton Perez Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6
1966-06-30 Manuel 'Chango' Magallane Los Angeles, USA W PTS 5
1966-06-16 Pimi Amador Los Angeles, USA D PTS 6
1966-06-02 Luke Smith Los Angeles, USA L UD 6
1966-04-30 Bobby Sandella San Diego, USA W PTS 5
1966-04-21 Bobby Sandella Los Angeles, USA W PTS 5

Record to Date
Won 7 (KOs 1) Lost 4 Drawn 1 Total 12
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THE SPRAY FLYING OFF HIS HEAD

Frank brought up Beto Maldanado. Wonder what made him think of Beto? I remembered him. Fought plenty of times at the Coliseum. A little slow with his hands. Lanky arms. Good beard. Had to have that good chin. He didn't avoid punches very well. But what I first thought when Frank mentioned Beto was everytime he'd get whacked on the chin,the spray from his hair would glare up into the ring lights. You could hear all the "Ahhhhs" in the crowd everytime Beto would sample leather. I'd wonder how he'd still be standing. Oh,he'd come back with both hands to the body ,slow as they would be,but Beto wasn't going to stand for being hit like that. He always had something to return.

Black trunks. Black boxing shoes. A skin you could tell had been pounded smoothe from all the leather that had been absorbed on it. The white skin that would welt up red more and more after each round. The body that looked soft,but after studying it,was hard. It was the Indian blood that gave that appearance. The polished look on his cheek bones that had rubbed against boxing gloves from Tijuana to the Pacific Northwest.

But it was the spray that flew off his head. Beto,couldn't you see that coming? But it's always easier to see it coming from your seat. Like watching the pitcher throw the ball from that outfield camera shot. But to have that baseball come up at you standing in the batter's box. To be looking at your opponent in the center of the ring. It's close. It comes up on you fast. Sometimes you can't see it. And sometimes you do,but there's nothing you can do about it.

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kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Davey Contreras . . .

Hey Frank, remember this guy? Here's another that had a winning record and just quit after one loss.

I think Davey Contreras fought out of Teamsters Gym, and so did his brother Victor, or "Butch" as he was known. I was scheduled to fight Butch at the Olympic, but he never showed for the morning weigh-in. Louie was there, said his fighter was sick.

Davey was looking pretty good, unbeaten in nine fights (not all listed by Boxrec). Then they matched him with Frankie Crawford in a ten rounder, a big mistake. Crawford ate his heart. Frankie dropped him twice, and stopped him in the ninth round. One loss- ADIOS!

We should start a seperate classification for these guys, call it - "One Loss Wonders". A loss can be a great learning experience for a boxer, depending on what it teaches them. Take losing to heart, but don't let it take your heart. If you can look down between your legs and still see a pair hanging, your still in the game. Fighters tend to defeat themselves, often before a match takes place.

A guy like Frankie Crawford could intimidate an insecure fighter, just looking at them across the room. Believe it or not, some 43 or 44 years later, I still remember the Davey Contreras-Crawford fight. I liked the Contreras brothers, and Davey was the better boxer of the two, I thought.

You knew them better than I did, Frank. They were Teamsters Gym fighters.


-Rick Farris
Rick...I hate to contradict you but, I'm sure that David Contreras's record on BoxRec is right, I was right there with David and Butch when they were training, in fact I used to spar with'em, I used to go to the gym just to work out ever though I wasn't fighting anymore, and when they need sparring I would help out, David who has passed on was the better fighter of the two brothers.
David was either married or living with an older woman (about 10 years older) who didn't like David fighting, it was like having two opponents, at that time David was working at Sears on Olympic and Soto in E.L.A, he probably figure it was easier to punch the clock then to fight the old lady..... :witzend:

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Career Record © http://www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1966-09-15 Frankie Crawford Los Angeles, USA L TKO 9
1966-08-04 Wayman Gray Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1966-06-16 Luke Smith Los Angeles, USA W KO 6
1966-06-03 Frankie Sedillo Los Angeles, USA W TKO 5
1966-04-21 Bosco Basilio Los Angeles, USA W PTS 5

Record to Date
Won 4 (KOs 2) Lost 1 Drawn 0 Total 5
Frank, thanks for info on Davey Contreras. I had it in my head he had nine fights. My apology to Boxrec. However, after just four pro fights and put in with Crawford, even a bigger mistake. What was Louie thinking? I remember Davey's win over Wayman Gray, who I boxed with at Flores Gym. Gray was a pretty sharp little featherweight out of Utah, but not great, but a good boxer. Crawford was also young in his career, but he had more experience than Contreras, I thought. I'm not surprised you worked with the Contreras brothers. Bosco Basileo and Luke Smith were solid L.A. prelim featherweights. If Contreras wasn't convinced that he had to be a fighter, than it's best Davey quit, however, I thought he was a real talent, and should have had a few more fights before facing Crawford.

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kikibalt wrote:Butch Contreras

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Career Record © http://www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1971-04-01 Rafael Lopez Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1970-10-03 Frankie Santillan Woodland Hills, USA W PTS 5
1970-09-24 Mamoru Minami Los Angeles, USA W KO 2
1970-05-21 Mamoru Minami Los Angeles, USA L PTS 5
1970-05-14 Enrique Flores Los Angeles, USA W PTS 10
1967-04-20 Vic Jimenez Los Angeles, USA L PTS 4
1966-07-28 Raton Perez Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6
1966-06-30 Manuel 'Chango' Magallane Los Angeles, USA W PTS 5
1966-06-16 Pimi Amador Los Angeles, USA D PTS 6
1966-06-02 Luke Smith Los Angeles, USA L UD 6
1966-04-30 Bobby Sandella San Diego, USA W PTS 5
1966-04-21 Bobby Sandella Los Angeles, USA W PTS 5

Record to Date
Won 7 (KOs 1) Lost 4 Drawn 1 Total 12
Frank . . . Frankie Santillian, who Butch beat in a prelim, was a good friend of mine from my neighborhood in Burbank. We were buddies and fought bigger guys side-by-side in elementry school. I moved across town and started fighting for Johnny Flores. Santillian started training a few months later with Canto Robledo in Pasadena. We would end up fighting each other four times in the amateurs between 1968-70, twice at the Olympic and twice at El Monte Legion. I won two, he won two, and all four were toss-up fights. The other guys on Butch's record, I boxed four of them in the gym, was scheduled to fight Enrique Flores in a ten, that fell thru in 1971. He fought Jesus Pimentel instead, and lost a decision.

Raton Perez was Jack Quarry's bantam from Mexico, Mamoru Minami of Japan and I would have wars at the Main St. Gym, he was handled by the Soto's. Vic Jimenez was a pretty good fighter, fought a few tens, worked with on & off thru the late 60's-thru-70. Lots of familiar names. Good memories.


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dagosd2000 wrote:THE SPRAY FLYING OFF HIS HEAD

Frank brought up Beto Maldanado. Wonder what made him think of Beto? I remembered him. Fought plenty of times at the Coliseum. A little slow with his hands. Lanky arms. Good beard. Had to have that good chin. He didn't avoid punches very well. But what I first thought when Frank mentioned Beto was everytime he'd get whacked on the chin,the spray from his hair would glare up into the ring lights. You could hear all the "Ahhhhs" in the crowd everytime Beto would sample leather. I'd wonder how he'd still be standing. Oh,he'd come back with both hands to the body ,slow as they would be,but Beto wasn't going to stand for being hit like that. He always had something to return.

Black trunks. Black boxing shoes. A skin you could tell had been pounded smoothe from all the leather that had been absorbed on it. The white skin that would welt up red more and more after each round. The body that looked soft,but after studying it,was hard. It was the Indian blood that gave that appearance. The polished look on his cheek bones that had rubbed against boxing gloves from Tijuana to the Pacific Northwest.

But it was the spray that flew off his head. Beto,couldn't you see that coming? But it's always easier to see it coming from your seat. Like watching the pitcher throw the ball from that outfield camera shot. But to have that baseball come up at you standing in the batter's box. To be looking at your opponent in the center of the ring. It's close. It comes up on you fast. Sometimes you can't see it. And sometimes you do,but there's nothing you can do about it.

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Rog...Beto was everything you say, he was also one of the easiest guy to get along with, he and Chuchie ran the Chino Boxing Club and would bring kids to the amateur shows, the reason I bought him up was I was thinking about some of the fighters that don't get accolade, there were lots of fighters like that and since Rick started posting about some of those guys I started thinking about them, those are the guys that without them there would be no boxing, guys that fought their hearts out and carried the show for little pay and few people appreciating their efforts, so I thought it would be nice to give them some of their dues that they fought so hard for.
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Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Davey Contreras . . .

Hey Frank, remember this guy? Here's another that had a winning record and just quit after one loss.

I think Davey Contreras fought out of Teamsters Gym, and so did his brother Victor, or "Butch" as he was known. I was scheduled to fight Butch at the Olympic, but he never showed for the morning weigh-in. Louie was there, said his fighter was sick.

Davey was looking pretty good, unbeaten in nine fights (not all listed by Boxrec). Then they matched him with Frankie Crawford in a ten rounder, a big mistake. Crawford ate his heart. Frankie dropped him twice, and stopped him in the ninth round. One loss- ADIOS!

We should start a seperate classification for these guys, call it - "One Loss Wonders". A loss can be a great learning experience for a boxer, depending on what it teaches them. Take losing to heart, but don't let it take your heart. If you can look down between your legs and still see a pair hanging, your still in the game. Fighters tend to defeat themselves, often before a match takes place.

A guy like Frankie Crawford could intimidate an insecure fighter, just looking at them across the room. Believe it or not, some 43 or 44 years later, I still remember the Davey Contreras-Crawford fight. I liked the Contreras brothers, and Davey was the better boxer of the two, I thought.

You knew them better than I did, Frank. They were Teamsters Gym fighters.


-Rick Farris
Rick...I hate to contradict you but, I'm sure that David Contreras's record on BoxRec is right, I was right there with David and Butch when they were training, in fact I used to spar with'em, I used to go to the gym just to work out ever though I wasn't fighting anymore, and when they need sparring I would help out, David who has passed on was the better fighter of the two brothers.
David was either married or living with an older woman (about 10 years older) who didn't like David fighting, it was like having two opponents, at that time David was working at Sears on Olympic and Soto in E.L.A, he probably figure it was easier to punch the clock then to fight the old lady..... :witzend:

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Career Record © http://www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1966-09-15 Frankie Crawford Los Angeles, USA L TKO 9
1966-08-04 Wayman Gray Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1966-06-16 Luke Smith Los Angeles, USA W KO 6
1966-06-03 Frankie Sedillo Los Angeles, USA W TKO 5
1966-04-21 Bosco Basilio Los Angeles, USA W PTS 5

Record to Date
Won 4 (KOs 2) Lost 1 Drawn 0 Total 5
Frank, thanks for info on Davey Contreras. I had it in my head he had nine fights. My apology to Boxrec. However, after just four pro fights and put in with Crawford, even a bigger mistake. What was Louie thinking? I remember Davey's win over Wayman Gray, who I boxed with at Flores Gym. Gray was a pretty sharp little featherweight out of Utah, but not great, but a good boxer. Crawford was also young in his career, but he had more experience than Contreras, I thought. I'm not surprised you worked with the Contreras brothers. Bosco Basileo and Luke Smith were solid L.A. prelim featherweights. If Contreras wasn't convinced that he had to be a fighter, than it's best Davey quit, however, I thought he was a real talent, and should have had a few more fights before facing Crawford.

-Rick Farris
Rick...I remember Louie not been to happy about David fighting Frankie at that time, I had a feeling that he was force to take that fight, "you fight Crawford or you don't fight in L.A. anymore" kind of thing, that stuff happens all the time in boxing.
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Rick...I remember Louie not been to happy about David fighting Frankie at that time, I had a feeling that he was force to take that fight, "you fight Crawford or you don't fight in L.A. anymore" kind of thing, that stuff happens all the time in boxing.[/quote]
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Frank, I used to hear of that kind of thing a lot, especially back in the days of Babe McCoy. I know that Mickey Davies made the Crawford-Contreras match for Aileen Eaton, and I know she could be tough like that. I will say this, the fans got the best of it, because it was good fight until Frankie put him together. I remember that when the Olympic began to showcase amateurs before the pro card, in 1966, I'd see Butch Contreras on TV occasionally. I remember I worked hard in the gym thinking I would fight him in a week, I knew he was tough.

By the way, did Davey pass away? I didn't know, what happened?

-Rick
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kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:THE SPRAY FLYING OFF HIS HEAD

Frank brought up Beto Maldanado. Wonder what made him think of Beto? I remembered him. Fought plenty of times at the Coliseum. A little slow with his hands. Lanky arms. Good beard. Had to have that good chin. He didn't avoid punches very well. But what I first thought when Frank mentioned Beto was everytime he'd get whacked on the chin,the spray from his hair would glare up into the ring lights. You could hear all the "Ahhhhs" in the crowd everytime Beto would sample leather. I'd wonder how he'd still be standing. Oh,he'd come back with both hands to the body ,slow as they would be,but Beto wasn't going to stand for being hit like that. He always had something to return.

Black trunks. Black boxing shoes. A skin you could tell had been pounded smoothe from all the leather that had been absorbed on it. The white skin that would welt up red more and more after each round. The body that looked soft,but after studying it,was hard. It was the Indian blood that gave that appearance. The polished look on his cheek bones that had rubbed against boxing gloves from Tijuana to the Pacific Northwest.

But it was the spray that flew off his head. Beto,couldn't you see that coming? But it's always easier to see it coming from your seat. Like watching the pitcher throw the ball from that outfield camera shot. But to have that baseball come up at you standing in the batter's box. To be looking at your opponent in the center of the ring. It's close. It comes up on you fast. Sometimes you can't see it. And sometimes you do,but there's nothing you can do about it.

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Rog...Beto was everything you say, he was also one of the easiest guy to get along with, he and Chuchie ran the Chino Boxing Club and would bring kids to the amateur shows, the reason I bought him up was I was thinking about some of the fighters that don't get accolade, there were lots of fighters like that and since Rick started posting about some of those guys I started thinking about them, those are the guys that without them there would be no boxing, guys that fought their hearts out and carried the show for little pay and few people appreciating their efforts, so I thought it would be nice to give them some of their dues that they fought so hard for.
Frank . . . I'm right with you on this. Let's have some fun and forget about the household names for a page or two, and let's continue on. We both have enough names to fill a thick book, some were unforgetable and it's time we give them a bow. Here's the funny thing, it's easier to put together ten round main events than it is a good undercard. The main thing is it was hard to keep these four and six round fights booked. Don Chargin would pace the corridors of the Olympic about 5pm on fight night, trying to put together the prelims. They were set a few days ahead, but then they often fell apart.

Chargin would call the Main Street Gym and hand the problem over to his assistant matchmaker, Howie Steindler. There were many times when Howie would pull a couple boxers sparring right out of the ring and convince them to get paid for their workout by fighting a four rounder in a few hours. A win-win situation for everybody because these guys know each other, and can go all out in a great fight without hurting one another. They are too evenly matched and the fans don't realize these guys give the same fireworks everyday in the gym, only now they'd pick up $75 for the 4 rounder (late 60's-early70's pay scale for California prelim boxers).

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Four prelim little guys you will never hear of are evident on the records Frank posted for Davey & Butch Contreras, and others. Keep in mind, some fought a few tens, but were career opponents and most had losing records, but the fights weren't all that one-sided. Many were tough & talented, but also unlucky. They never had the odds on their side. The were "opponents". They were tough fighters, action fighters, brought the crowd to their feet. They came to fight.

These guys were all from the 60's, at least that's when I'd see them open or close the show at the Olympic. Just four random names of guys who are the foundation of pro boxing in their era.

Luke Smith
Pimi Amador
Manuel "Chango" Magallanes
Manny Lugo (a 4-to-6 round non-stop punching machine)

When they wrote the Simon & Garfunkle song, "The Boxer", they wrote it about these guys. Just four of dozens who helped make L.A. boxing what it was in the 60's.

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Manny Lugo was one of the most fun to watch fighters I ever seen, his style would have you laughing... :lol:

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Date Opponent Location Result
1969-05-22 Les Vegas Portland, USA W PTS 10
1969-04-26 Rugene Parker San Jose, USA L PTS 8
1969-04-10 Ronnie Harris Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6
1969-03-05 Benito Juarez Las Vegas, USA L PTS 6
1968-11-29 Roberto Oscar Amaya San Jose, USA L PTS 10
1968-10-29 Bobby Jordan San Jose, USA L PTS 8
1968-09-30 Les Vegas Portland, USA W PTS 6
1968-09-14 Ulysses Botero Ventura, USA L PTS 10
1968-08-21 Ulysses Botero Ventura, USA L PTS 8
1968-08-14 Bobby Jordan Oakland, USA L SD 6
1968-08-01 Benito Juarez Las Vegas, USA L PTS 5
1968-07-23 Carlos Monnreal San Diego, USA W PTS 6
1968-07-18 Jimmy Robertson Los Angeles, USA L PTS 4
1968-06-13 Jimmy Robertson Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1968-05-27 Bobby Jordan Stockton, USA W PTS 6
1968-05-14 Benny Colima San Diego, USA W KO 4
1968-04-30 Benny Colima Portland, USA D PTS 6
1968-04-08 Bobby Brooks Edmonton, Canada W UD 6
1968-03-28 Pancho DeLeon Seattle, USA W PTS 8
1968-03-15 Robert Carrillo San Diego, USA W PTS 5
1968-02-29 Pajarito Corona Los Angeles, USA L PTS 4
1968-02-19 Ralph Ungbricht Portland, USA D PTS 6
1968-01-23 John Lujan Fresno, USA W MD 6
1967-11-20 Juanito Gonzalez San Diego, USA L KO 9
1967-11-13 Brad Silas Las Vegas, USA L PTS 6
1967-11-09 John Cromer Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1967-08-10 Julian Tellez Los Angeles, USA D TD 6
1967-07-28 Manuel Ramos San Diego, USA W PTS 6
1967-06-15 Gary Carr Los Angeles, USA D PTS 6
1967-04-25 Fel Pedranza Honolulu, USA L PTS 10
1967-02-27 Javier Ayala Tijuana, Mexico L TKO 7
1967-01-30 Carlos Monnreal Portland, USA W UD 10
1966-12-21 Jose Claudio Adame San Diego, USA L TKO 6
1966-11-29 Larry Flores Woodland Hills, USA D PTS 6
1966-10-06 Lovelle Franklin Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-09-22 Gabriel Hernandez Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-09-15 Gabriel Hernandez Los Angeles, USA W SD 6
1966-08-31 Manny Ramirez San Francisco, USA W MD 10
1966-08-25 Fernando Trujillo Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-08-12 Fernando Trujillo San Bernardino, USA D PTS 8
1966-07-21 Charley Harvey Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-06-21 Manny Ramirez San Francisco, USA L SD 10
1966-05-27 Charley Harvey Los Angeles, USA W PTS 5
1966-05-19 Al Ramirez Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-05-13 Al Ramirez San Diego, USA W PTS 4
1966-05-02 Jeff Phillip Magnan Oakland, USA W PTS 4
1966-04-07 Jerry Stevens Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-04-02 Al Sandoval San Diego, USA W PTS 6
1966-03-19 Wayman Gray San Diego, USA D TD 6
1966-02-10 Jerry Stevens Los Angeles, USA D PTS 6
1965-12-30 Manuel Ochoa Los Angeles, USA D TD 1
1965-12-23 Manuel Ochoa Los Angeles, USA W PTS 5
1965-11-25 Willie Ray Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6
1965-10-14 Willie Ray Los Angeles, USA L KO 1
1965-09-30 Johnny Quintella Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1965-04-06 Willie Castillo Honolulu, USA L KO 4
1965-03-09 Kenji Ishida Honolulu, USA W PTS 6
1965-02-23 Lionel Rivera Honolulu, USA W PTS 6
1965-02-16 Takeshi Fuji Honolulu, USA L KO 3
1965-01-29 Candy Barnes Los Angeles, USA D PTS 5
1965-01-26 Johnny Brooks Las Vegas, USA L PTS 6

Record to Date
Won 29 (KOs 1) Lost 22 Drawn 10 Total 61
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwL2VvTUM2g

Guys, check this link out. It always irked me when Vinnie Pazienza fought Roberto Duran and Duran dropped Paz, all the announcers and news links stated that this was the first time Pazienza was ever dropped in his career. I yelled at the time, "What?! I saw Roger Mayweather drop him with a skull-rocker of an uppercut. Well, here is the skull-rocker. This has to be one of the picture perfect uppercuts I've ever seen. Another of my favorites was the left hook Don Curry nailed Milt McCrory with in the 2nd round of their fight. But this is a cool one. Enjoy.

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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Rick Farris wrote:Rick...I remember Louie not been to happy about David fighting Frankie at that time, I had a feeling that he was force to take that fight, "you fight Crawford or you don't fight in L.A. anymore" kind of thing, that stuff happens all the time in boxing.

Frank, I used to hear of that kind of thing a lot, especially back in the days of Babe McCoy. I know that Mickey Davies made the Crawford-Contreras match for Aileen Eaton, and I know she could be tough like that. I will say this, the fans got the best of it, because it was good fight until Frankie put him together. I remember that when the Olympic began to showcase amateurs before the pro card, in 1966, I'd see Butch Contreras on TV occasionally. I remember I worked hard in the gym thinking I would fight him in a week, I knew he was tough.

By the way, did Davey pass away? I didn't know, what happened?


-Rick
Rick...Dave died 3-4 years ago, his wife died first and he follow her less then a year later.
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Too Sweet was always good for a great fight

Frank Jennings

Alias Too Sweet
Country USA
Global Id 23009
Division Welterweight
Died 2008-02-19


Career Record © www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1968-04-29 Raul Soriano Tijuana, Mexico L TKO 1
1968-02-01 Art Cruz Los Angeles, USA L UD 10
1967-12-19 Bob Murray Las Vegas, USA L PTS 10
1967-11-14 Pulga Serrano San Diego, USA L PTS 10
1967-08-24 Ruben Rivera Los Angeles, USA L SD 10
1967-04-20 Ernie Lopez Los Angeles, USA L TKO 8
1967-03-30 Jesus Hernandez Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1967-03-02 Jose Valenzuela Los Angeles, USA W TKO 8
1966-12-19 Johnny Brooks Las Vegas, USA L PTS 10
1966-12-02 Ed McGruder Las Vegas, USA W PTS 8
1966-11-07 Ed McGruder Las Vegas, USA W PTS 8
1966-09-22 Jose Valenzuela Los Angeles, USA L UD 10
1966-06-23 Johnny Brooks Las Vegas, USA L PTS 10
1966-06-09 Frankie Belma Los Angeles, USA L MD 10
1966-05-05 Polo Corona Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1966-04-07 Johnny Morrison Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-03-31 Polo Corona Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-01-25 Kenji Ishida Honolulu, USA L KO 3
1965-12-16 Zeke Perez Los Angeles, USA D PTS 8
1965-11-04 Frankie Belma Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6
1965-09-23 Bob Murray San Francisco, USA L PTS 6
1965-08-03 Chappell Funnye Fresno, USA W SD 6
1965-04-01 Quincy Daniels Seattle, USA L PTS 6
1965-02-24 Cecil Mott Las Vegas, USA W PTS 6
1965-01-19 Sammy Figueroa Las Vegas, USA W PTS 6
1962-09-10 Harold McLean Butte, USA D PTS 6
1960-06-07 Chuck Flores Phoenix, USA L SD 10
1957-04-30 Frankie Belma Hollywood, USA L KO 4
1957-03-26 Leo Agbulos Stockton, USA L KO 3
1957-03-16 Jimmy Jackson Hollywood, USA L PTS 4
1957-01-31 Joe Chavez Los Angeles, USA L PTS 4
1957-01-24 Art Lopez Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1957-01-19 Art Lopez Hollywood, USA W PTS 4
1956-11-15 Jimmy Lassiter Los Angeles, USA L UD 6
1956-11-01 Jimmy Lassiter Los Angeles, USA D PTS 6
1956-08-09 Ray Castro Los Angeles, USA W UD 6
1956-07-07 Ray Terrazas Hollywood, USA L PTS 4
1956-06-28 Randall Kitchen Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1956-06-07 Benny Robledo Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1956-05-24 Rudy Lara Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1956-04-19 Tony Reyes Los Angeles, USA L PTS 4
1956-04-05 Dick Otto Los Angeles, USA D PTS 4
1956-04-03 Alvin Moore Sacramento, USA L PTS 4
1956-03-22 Lloyd Fowler Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4

Record to Date
Won 17 (KOs 1) Lost 23 Drawn 4 Total 44
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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kikibalt wrote:Manny Lugo was one of the most fun to watch fighters I ever seen, his style would have you laughing... :lol:

Manuel Lugo

Country USA
Global Id 40582
Division Welterweight


Career Record © http://www.boxrec.com

Manny Lugo was the only fighter I ever saw who would throw his left and his right together at the same time :D

Date Opponent Location Result
1969-05-22 Les Vegas Portland, USA W PTS 10
1969-04-26 Rugene Parker San Jose, USA L PTS 8
1969-04-10 Ronnie Harris Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6
1969-03-05 Benito Juarez Las Vegas, USA L PTS 6
1968-11-29 Roberto Oscar Amaya San Jose, USA L PTS 10
1968-10-29 Bobby Jordan San Jose, USA L PTS 8
1968-09-30 Les Vegas Portland, USA W PTS 6
1968-09-14 Ulysses Botero Ventura, USA L PTS 10
1968-08-21 Ulysses Botero Ventura, USA L PTS 8
1968-08-14 Bobby Jordan Oakland, USA L SD 6
1968-08-01 Benito Juarez Las Vegas, USA L PTS 5
1968-07-23 Carlos Monnreal San Diego, USA W PTS 6
1968-07-18 Jimmy Robertson Los Angeles, USA L PTS 4
1968-06-13 Jimmy Robertson Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1968-05-27 Bobby Jordan Stockton, USA W PTS 6
1968-05-14 Benny Colima San Diego, USA W KO 4
1968-04-30 Benny Colima Portland, USA D PTS 6
1968-04-08 Bobby Brooks Edmonton, Canada W UD 6
1968-03-28 Pancho DeLeon Seattle, USA W PTS 8
1968-03-15 Robert Carrillo San Diego, USA W PTS 5
1968-02-29 Pajarito Corona Los Angeles, USA L PTS 4
1968-02-19 Ralph Ungbricht Portland, USA D PTS 6
1968-01-23 John Lujan Fresno, USA W MD 6
1967-11-20 Juanito Gonzalez San Diego, USA L KO 9
1967-11-13 Brad Silas Las Vegas, USA L PTS 6
1967-11-09 John Cromer Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1967-08-10 Julian Tellez Los Angeles, USA D TD 6
1967-07-28 Manuel Ramos San Diego, USA W PTS 6
1967-06-15 Gary Carr Los Angeles, USA D PTS 6
1967-04-25 Fel Pedranza Honolulu, USA L PTS 10
1967-02-27 Javier Ayala Tijuana, Mexico L TKO 7
1967-01-30 Carlos Monnreal Portland, USA W UD 10
1966-12-21 Jose Claudio Adame San Diego, USA L TKO 6
1966-11-29 Larry Flores Woodland Hills, USA D PTS 6
1966-10-06 Lovelle Franklin Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-09-22 Gabriel Hernandez Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-09-15 Gabriel Hernandez Los Angeles, USA W SD 6
1966-08-31 Manny Ramirez San Francisco, USA W MD 10
1966-08-25 Fernando Trujillo Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-08-12 Fernando Trujillo San Bernardino, USA D PTS 8
1966-07-21 Charley Harvey Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-06-21 Manny Ramirez San Francisco, USA L SD 10
1966-05-27 Charley Harvey Los Angeles, USA W PTS 5
1966-05-19 Al Ramirez Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-05-13 Al Ramirez San Diego, USA W PTS 4
1966-05-02 Jeff Phillip Magnan Oakland, USA W PTS 4
1966-04-07 Jerry Stevens Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-04-02 Al Sandoval San Diego, USA W PTS 6
1966-03-19 Wayman Gray San Diego, USA D TD 6
1966-02-10 Jerry Stevens Los Angeles, USA D PTS 6
1965-12-30 Manuel Ochoa Los Angeles, USA D TD 1
1965-12-23 Manuel Ochoa Los Angeles, USA W PTS 5
1965-11-25 Willie Ray Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6
1965-10-14 Willie Ray Los Angeles, USA L KO 1
1965-09-30 Johnny Quintella Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1965-04-06 Willie Castillo Honolulu, USA L KO 4
1965-03-09 Kenji Ishida Honolulu, USA W PTS 6
1965-02-23 Lionel Rivera Honolulu, USA W PTS 6
1965-02-16 Takeshi Fuji Honolulu, USA L KO 3
1965-01-29 Candy Barnes Los Angeles, USA D PTS 5
1965-01-26 Johnny Brooks Las Vegas, USA L PTS 6

Record to Date
Won 29 (KOs 1) Lost 22 Drawn 10 Total 61
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Manny Lugo was one of the most fun to watch fighters I ever seen, his style would have you laughing... :lol:

Manny Lugo was the only fighter I ever saw who would throw his left and his right together at the same time :D
And don't forget, while he was throwing left and right together, both feet would be off the canvas.... :lol:
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kikibalt wrote:Manny Lugo was one of the most fun to watch fighters I ever seen, his style would have you laughing... :lol:

Manuel Lugo

Country USA
Global Id 40582
Division Welterweight


Career Record © http://www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1969-05-22 Les Vegas Portland, USA W PTS 10
1969-04-26 Rugene Parker San Jose, USA L PTS 8
1969-04-10 Ronnie Harris Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6
1969-03-05 Benito Juarez Las Vegas, USA L PTS 6
1968-11-29 Roberto Oscar Amaya San Jose, USA L PTS 10
1968-10-29 Bobby Jordan San Jose, USA L PTS 8
1968-09-30 Les Vegas Portland, USA W PTS 6
1968-09-14 Ulysses Botero Ventura, USA L PTS 10
1968-08-21 Ulysses Botero Ventura, USA L PTS 8
1968-08-14 Bobby Jordan Oakland, USA L SD 6
1968-08-01 Benito Juarez Las Vegas, USA L PTS 5
1968-07-23 Carlos Monnreal San Diego, USA W PTS 6
1968-07-18 Jimmy Robertson Los Angeles, USA L PTS 4
1968-06-13 Jimmy Robertson Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1968-05-27 Bobby Jordan Stockton, USA W PTS 6
1968-05-14 Benny Colima San Diego, USA W KO 4
1968-04-30 Benny Colima Portland, USA D PTS 6
1968-04-08 Bobby Brooks Edmonton, Canada W UD 6
1968-03-28 Pancho DeLeon Seattle, USA W PTS 8
1968-03-15 Robert Carrillo San Diego, USA W PTS 5
1968-02-29 Pajarito Corona Los Angeles, USA L PTS 4
1968-02-19 Ralph Ungbricht Portland, USA D PTS 6
1968-01-23 John Lujan Fresno, USA W MD 6
1967-11-20 Juanito Gonzalez San Diego, USA L KO 9
1967-11-13 Brad Silas Las Vegas, USA L PTS 6
1967-11-09 John Cromer Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1967-08-10 Julian Tellez Los Angeles, USA D TD 6
1967-07-28 Manuel Ramos San Diego, USA W PTS 6
1967-06-15 Gary Carr Los Angeles, USA D PTS 6
1967-04-25 Fel Pedranza Honolulu, USA L PTS 10
1967-02-27 Javier Ayala Tijuana, Mexico L TKO 7
1967-01-30 Carlos Monnreal Portland, USA W UD 10
1966-12-21 Jose Claudio Adame San Diego, USA L TKO 6
1966-11-29 Larry Flores Woodland Hills, USA D PTS 6
1966-10-06 Lovelle Franklin Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-09-22 Gabriel Hernandez Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-09-15 Gabriel Hernandez Los Angeles, USA W SD 6
1966-08-31 Manny Ramirez San Francisco, USA W MD 10
1966-08-25 Fernando Trujillo Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-08-12 Fernando Trujillo San Bernardino, USA D PTS 8
1966-07-21 Charley Harvey Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-06-21 Manny Ramirez San Francisco, USA L SD 10
1966-05-27 Charley Harvey Los Angeles, USA W PTS 5
1966-05-19 Al Ramirez Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-05-13 Al Ramirez San Diego, USA W PTS 4
1966-05-02 Jeff Phillip Magnan Oakland, USA W PTS 4
1966-04-07 Jerry Stevens Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-04-02 Al Sandoval San Diego, USA W PTS 6
1966-03-19 Wayman Gray San Diego, USA D TD 6
1966-02-10 Jerry Stevens Los Angeles, USA D PTS 6
1965-12-30 Manuel Ochoa Los Angeles, USA D TD 1
1965-12-23 Manuel Ochoa Los Angeles, USA W PTS 5
1965-11-25 Willie Ray Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6
1965-10-14 Willie Ray Los Angeles, USA L KO 1
1965-09-30 Johnny Quintella Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1965-04-06 Willie Castillo Honolulu, USA L KO 4
1965-03-09 Kenji Ishida Honolulu, USA W PTS 6
1965-02-23 Lionel Rivera Honolulu, USA W PTS 6
1965-02-16 Takeshi Fuji Honolulu, USA L KO 3
1965-01-29 Candy Barnes Los Angeles, USA D PTS 5
1965-01-26 Johnny Brooks Las Vegas, USA L PTS 6

Record to Date
Won 29 (KOs 1) Lost 22 Drawn 10 Total 61

Frank . . . In the mid-60's, Jake Shagrue had the Hoover St. Gym off of 78th St. Jake lived in the house next door and the place had an old wooden garage. Manny Lugo lived in that cold little garage, slept on an old mattress on the dirty cement floor. I didn't train often at Hoover Street, but in the mid-60's a boxer I knew who was handled by Charlie Gregoli, lived close to me in Burbank. He'd go to Jake's gym to workout with Frankie Crawford and also would spar with Lugo. I would ride along and boxed a couple times with Andy Price, who trained at the gym under Jerry Moore and Henry Blouin. Price was just 12 at the time and I was 13. Lugo never stopped throwing punches, and it was a good thing for his opponents he couldn't hit hard because he could overwhelm a guy.

-Rick Farris
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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How about claude Durden? he fought some good fighters

Claude Durden

Country USA
Global Id 31961
Division Lightweight


Career Record © www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1978-05-20 Hector Carrasquilla Inglewood, USA L RTD 3
1978-03-17 Gonzalo Montellano Bakersfield, USA L PTS 10
1978-02-24 Antonio Zurdo Fuentes Bakersfield, USA W PTS 10
1977-11-03 Frankie Baltazar Los Angeles, USA L KO 7
1976-05-13 Ray Lampkin Portland, USA L KO 2
1975-11-22 Arturo Pineda Los Angeles, USA L PTS 10
1975-09-27 Vicente Mijares Saldivar Los Angeles, USA L PTS 10
1975-08-23 Antonio Gin Los Angeles, USA W KO 4
1975-06-21 Bobby Larsen Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1974-10-11 Javier Muniz San Diego, USA L PTS 6
1974-09-27 Tommy Nava San Diego, USA W KO 1
1974-05-02 Juan Morales Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6
1974-04-04 Juan Morales Los Angeles, USA D TD 1
1974-02-28 Victor Abraham Los Angeles, USA L KO 1
1973-12-13 Ray Haley Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1973-11-29 Ken Brooks Los Angeles, USA L PTS 5
1973-11-15 Isaias Velasquez Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1973-10-27 Armando Cordova Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1973-09-13 Rudy Acuna Los Angeles, USA L KO 3

Record to Date
Won 7 (KOs 4) Lost 11 Drawn 1 Total 19
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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kikibalt wrote:Too Sweet was always good for a great fight

Frank Jennings

Alias Too Sweet
Country USA
Global Id 23009
Division Welterweight
Died 2008-02-19


Career Record © http://www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1968-04-29 Raul Soriano Tijuana, Mexico L TKO 1
1968-02-01 Art Cruz Los Angeles, USA L UD 10
1967-12-19 Bob Murray Las Vegas, USA L PTS 10
1967-11-14 Pulga Serrano San Diego, USA L PTS 10
1967-08-24 Ruben Rivera Los Angeles, USA L SD 10
1967-04-20 Ernie Lopez Los Angeles, USA L TKO 8
1967-03-30 Jesus Hernandez Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1967-03-02 Jose Valenzuela Los Angeles, USA W TKO 8
1966-12-19 Johnny Brooks Las Vegas, USA L PTS 10
1966-12-02 Ed McGruder Las Vegas, USA W PTS 8
1966-11-07 Ed McGruder Las Vegas, USA W PTS 8
1966-09-22 Jose Valenzuela Los Angeles, USA L UD 10
1966-06-23 Johnny Brooks Las Vegas, USA L PTS 10
1966-06-09 Frankie Belma Los Angeles, USA L MD 10
1966-05-05 Polo Corona Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1966-04-07 Johnny Morrison Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-03-31 Polo Corona Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1966-01-25 Kenji Ishida Honolulu, USA L KO 3
1965-12-16 Zeke Perez Los Angeles, USA D PTS 8
1965-11-04 Frankie Belma Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6
1965-09-23 Bob Murray San Francisco, USA L PTS 6
1965-08-03 Chappell Funnye Fresno, USA W SD 6
1965-04-01 Quincy Daniels Seattle, USA L PTS 6
1965-02-24 Cecil Mott Las Vegas, USA W PTS 6
1965-01-19 Sammy Figueroa Las Vegas, USA W PTS 6
1962-09-10 Harold McLean Butte, USA D PTS 6
1960-06-07 Chuck Flores Phoenix, USA L SD 10
1957-04-30 Frankie Belma Hollywood, USA L KO 4
1957-03-26 Leo Agbulos Stockton, USA L KO 3
1957-03-16 Jimmy Jackson Hollywood, USA L PTS 4
1957-01-31 Joe Chavez Los Angeles, USA L PTS 4
1957-01-24 Art Lopez Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1957-01-19 Art Lopez Hollywood, USA W PTS 4
1956-11-15 Jimmy Lassiter Los Angeles, USA L UD 6
1956-11-01 Jimmy Lassiter Los Angeles, USA D PTS 6
1956-08-09 Ray Castro Los Angeles, USA W UD 6
1956-07-07 Ray Terrazas Hollywood, USA L PTS 4
1956-06-28 Randall Kitchen Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1956-06-07 Benny Robledo Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1956-05-24 Rudy Lara Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1956-04-19 Tony Reyes Los Angeles, USA L PTS 4
1956-04-05 Dick Otto Los Angeles, USA D PTS 4
1956-04-03 Alvin Moore Sacramento, USA L PTS 4
1956-03-22 Lloyd Fowler Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4

Record to Date
Won 17 (KOs 1) Lost 23 Drawn 4 Total 44

Frank . . . This was the next name I was going to mention, Frankie "Too Sweet" Jennings! I loved the guy, he really came to fight and he could fight. I can still see him busting up Jose Valenzuela in a bloody match. Valenzuela had protruding eyebrows that were laced with scar tissue. In those days, remember how cut men would sometimes pack a cut with medicine and then seal it with "New Skin", the liquid band aid material. The New Skin would harden like glue and after it got wacked a few times would peel off the wound and hang down from the brow. It looked like a fighters face was being torn off. That is what I remember about the Jennings-Valenzuela match. Jose looked like Frankenstein after a few rounds.

II was sad to see Jennings face a young, strong Ernie "Indian Red" Lopez. When you really like a fighter and see him in a match you know he's not likely to win. Jennings fought Ernie tough before being stopped later in the fight. I still remember seeing "Too Sweet" in the gym, and my dad really liked him. He always wore white shoes, and his afro hair was straightened, he'd always cover his hair with a do rag before putting on his head guard and sparring.

Last year, at a WBHOF event, I gave the "ten count" for boxers who have recently died. While investigating boxers obituaries I was saddened to find the name, Frankie "Too Sweet" Jennings, who'd passed only weeks before. He was a regular at the Main Street Gym and a popular attraction at the Olympic. Rest his soul.


-Rick Farris
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Another Teamsters's fighter trained and managed by Louie J.

Armando Cordova

Country USA
Global Id 77632
Hometown North Hollywood CA
Birthplace Mexico
Division Lightweight


Career Record © www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1978-11-21 Victor Martinez Las Vegas, USA L TKO 2
1978-01-21 Victor Martinez Las Vegas, USA L KO 2
1977-01-21 Alex Alfaro Laredo, USA W PTS 4
1976-06-02 Ezra Davis Las Vegas, USA D PTS 8
1976-05-15 Pedro Constancio Fresno, USA L PTS 6
1976-03-15 Pedro Constancio Fresno, USA L PTS 6
1975-07-11 Carmelo Cruz San Diego, USA L PTS 6
1975-06-13 Dave Lopez San Diego, USA W KO 3
1974-11-23 Jose Macias Inglewood, USA W SD 5
1974-10-03 Victor de la Cruz Los Angeles, USA D PTS 6
1974-09-26 Memo Gonzalez Los Angeles, USA W PTS 5
1974-03-04 Randy Shields Inglewood, USA L PTS 6
1974-02-01 Rod Contreras San Diego, USA W PTS 6
1973-10-27 Claude Durden Los Angeles, USA L PTS 4
1973-10-18 Roberto Reyes Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1973-10-04 Isaias Velasquez Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1973-08-16 Javier Muniz Los Angeles, USA L KO 2
1973-06-08 Ramon Cabrera San Diego, USA W KO 1
1973-05-17 Rudy Acuna Los Angeles, USA W KO 3
1973-04-12 Luis Hernandez Los Angeles, USA L PTS 5
1973-02-16 Luis Marquez San Bernardino, USA W KO 4

Record to Date
Won 10 (KOs 6) Lost 9 Drawn 2 Total 21
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Willie Ray fought Manny Lugo couple of times.

Willie Ray

Country USA
Global Id 83697
Division Lightweight


Career Record © www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1968-10-10 Al Meza Los Angeles, USA L TKO 3
1968-07-26 Bobby Sedillo San Bernardino, USA W PTS 10
1968-05-02 Centavito Antonio Hernand Los Angeles, USA L PTS 10
1968-03-14 Pajarito Corona Los Angeles, USA D PTS 6
1966-06-17 Fernando Trujillo San Bernardino, USA W KO 1
1966-06-02 Fernando Trujillo Los Angeles, USA L PTS 5
1966-02-24 Ignacio Matias Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1965-11-25 Manuel Lugo Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1965-10-14 Manuel Lugo Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1965-09-02 Billy Coleman Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1965-07-28 Pete Gonzalez San Francisco, USA L MD 10
1965-05-11 Richard Sue Seattle, USA L TKO 3
1965-04-01 Jose Barrera Seattle, USA W KO 8
1965-03-17 Beto Maldonado Santa Monica, USA L UD 10
1965-02-22 Al Sandoval Santa Monica, USA W KO 2
1964-08-11 Luis Robles San Diego, USA W KO 3
1964-08-06 Chato Arzola Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1964-07-30 Luis Robles Los Angeles, USA W PTS 5
1964-05-19 Daniel Valdez North Hollywood, USA D PTS 6
1964-04-30 Lucio Gomez Los Angeles, USA W TKO 2

Record to Date
Won 12 (KOs 7) Lost 6 Drawn 2 Total 20
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kikibalt wrote:How about claude Durden? he fought some good fighters

Claude Durden

Country USA
Global Id 31961
Division Lightweight


Career Record © http://www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1978-05-20 Hector Carrasquilla Inglewood, USA L RTD 3
1978-03-17 Gonzalo Montellano Bakersfield, USA L PTS 10
1978-02-24 Antonio Zurdo Fuentes Bakersfield, USA W PTS 10
1977-11-03 Frankie Baltazar Los Angeles, USA L KO 7
1976-05-13 Ray Lampkin Portland, USA L KO 2
1975-11-22 Arturo Pineda Los Angeles, USA L PTS 10
1975-09-27 Vicente Mijares Saldivar Los Angeles, USA L PTS 10
1975-08-23 Antonio Gin Los Angeles, USA W KO 4
1975-06-21 Bobby Larsen Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1974-10-11 Javier Muniz San Diego, USA L PTS 6
1974-09-27 Tommy Nava San Diego, USA W KO 1
1974-05-02 Juan Morales Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6
1974-04-04 Juan Morales Los Angeles, USA D TD 1
1974-02-28 Victor Abraham Los Angeles, USA L KO 1
1973-12-13 Ray Haley Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1973-11-29 Ken Brooks Los Angeles, USA L PTS 5
1973-11-15 Isaias Velasquez Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1973-10-27 Armando Cordova Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1973-09-13 Rudy Acuna Los Angeles, USA L KO 3

Record to Date
Won 7 (KOs 4) Lost 11 Drawn 1 Total 19
Frank . . . You know I have my own connection with Claude Durden. Claude was a powerful young fighter when we fought in the 1967 Jr. Golden Gloves tourney. I wasn't expected to win by the so-called experts. My grandfather had words with Billy Mitchell in the dressing room before the fight, when Mitchell told my grandad his boy was going to knock me out. My grandad offered to bet him, Mitchell just laughed but refused to pull out his wallet as my grandafather did. My grandfather embarrassed Mitchell. Later I embarrassed Durden, that night I scored my first TKO as a junior amateur, stopping Claude in the first round after flooring him twice. That night was sponsored by the Hawiian Garden's Teen Post 109. The bouts were held at Artesia High School Gymnasium. Three months later, in a bout promoted by your cousin in Santa Ana Union Hall, I beat him a second time by decision. Claude whipped a lot of good fighters in the juniors, but I had his number. :TU:

-Rick Farris
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