Is there another one the way?
I say NO NO NO!
But to last 10 years at the top?Cannibal wrote:There is aways somebody on the way. He might already be here and you just don't know it yet.
At least the enviroment is there for someone to come through as most of the divisions on a domestic level are of a decent standard.
I think our top fighters will just go straight for the biggest fight, these days. The "lesser top fighters" will defend WBO belts, the better ones will gun for the key fights. After the successes of Calzaghe and Hatton in America, British fighters surely are taken more seriously and potentially more marketable.DG. wrote:A decade at the top no matter whatbway you look at it is an achievement
Is there another one the way?
I say NO NO NO!
Good fighter, but if he even reaches the top that would mean fighting until he is 40 odd to match Joe's "reign" of 10 years!!!!FtmPress wrote:Yes Darren Sutherland
banjo wrote:No never, not possible, listen to what the people are saying Dennis.
Joe Calzaghe has the firepower of a WWII battleship in his left pinky if you listen to some of the people on here, can anyone else be so unique?
I think not.
FtmPress wrote:Yes Darren Sutherland
That tooDG. wrote:banjo wrote:No never, not possible, listen to what the people are saying Dennis.
Joe Calzaghe has the firepower of a WWII battleship in his left pinky if you listen to some of the people on here, can anyone else be so unique?
I think not.
Not to mention he breathes fire like the dragons of old!
achieved more imothepocketrocket wrote:Fighters are no longer scared to lose...
Im not a Froch fan but if he beats Taylor and then Kessler he has achieved as much as Joe IMO
Just cos fighters will stop mincing and take important fights, doesn't mean to say all will get found out or badly beaten.stujones wrote:One thing I will give Joe - he lived the life for years... it is a special person to have that kind of discipline.
I think no, simply because of the fact that I think fighters/promoters will now cave into the temptation of having going for the Super fight with a prime p4p er... and end up losing (as Ricky has done, and as Joe would have done IMO).
Perfectly managed career.
Yes, and I know "ever" is a long time - but it takes someone, well, beyond special to reign for 12 years and hasn't "minced" about.Autobarn wrote:Just cos fighters will stop mincing and take important fights, doesn't mean to say all will get found out or badly beaten.stujones wrote:One thing I will give Joe - he lived the life for years... it is a special person to have that kind of discipline.
I think no, simply because of the fact that I think fighters/promoters will now cave into the temptation of having going for the Super fight with a prime p4p er... and end up losing (as Ricky has done, and as Joe would have done IMO).
Perfectly managed career.
If ppl are less scared to lose, then maybe the positive outlook gives 'em a better chance to win.
I think Roy would have toyed with Calzaghe to be honest. Look at how Joe struggled with a largely negative but mobile and crafty Hopkins. Joe has always had problems with movers and counterpunchers, he has never liked having to chase opponents.DG. wrote:FtmPress wrote:Yes Darren Sutherland
Not to imply Calzaghe is dumb, but as Yiddo said - it sounds like todays fighters will go for the Titles and Big fights asap.
I know I would rather be King for 5 years and retire undefeated and great than be a Prince for 10-15 years.
David Haye - Sutherland ( from whay I have read and heard) seem to be the type that want the challenge and not the Fwank Warren milk it for all its worth and NEVER even lose a round and then get beaten once you step up route ( See Naz - also Hatton to a lesser extent)route.
I thoink JC could have beaten everyoine in hos weight class with his chin - power - workrate. I would sat a peak RJJ would beat him but it would be a real fight. JC is a hell of a tough man.
I doubt we will see his type again - apart from Lennox ....had we before?
Sadly logic does not apply to many Calzaghe fansjamesmcdonnell wrote:I think Roy would have toyed with Calzaghe to be honest. Look at how Joe struggled with a largely negative but mobile and crafty Hopkins. Joe has always had problems with movers and counterpunchers, he has never liked having to chase opponents.DG. wrote:FtmPress wrote:Yes Darren Sutherland
Not to imply Calzaghe is dumb, but as Yiddo said - it sounds like todays fighters will go for the Titles and Big fights asap.
I know I would rather be King for 5 years and retire undefeated and great than be a Prince for 10-15 years.
David Haye - Sutherland ( from whay I have read and heard) seem to be the type that want the challenge and not the Fwank Warren milk it for all its worth and NEVER even lose a round and then get beaten once you step up route ( See Naz - also Hatton to a lesser extent)route.
I thoink JC could have beaten everyoine in hos weight class with his chin - power - workrate. I would sat a peak RJJ would beat him but it would be a real fight. JC is a hell of a tough man.
I doubt we will see his type again - apart from Lennox ....had we before?
As good as Joe is, I don't think he is on the same level as Roy Jones, who at 168 was about as untouchable as I've ever seen a fighter look - he was also a massive puncher at the weight. It would have been a totally one sided fight.