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The Hollywood Legion's Boxing Ring . . .

I wish I could have sat ringside for a couple of the greats fights that Frank saw there, matches that were made by our Hap Navarro. I always had a curiosity about the Hollywood Legion. It had been gone a few years by the time I stated boxing.

My manager Johnnie Flores, who built boxing rings, inherited the Legion ring's corner poles. Johnnie would rent boxing rings to promoters, however, he was never able to use these corner pieces because they were too heavy to transport, so they just lay under his gym ring for years. One evening after I finsished working out with another boxer, Johnnie asked me if I wanted to make some extra money. My buddy and I were teenagers and always looking for a way to supplement our part-time income from the Jack-In-The-Box stand we worked in on weekends.

Johnny told us that if we were willing to pull the four heavy poles from under the ring, we could take them to a scrap metal yard and make a fortune, since the poles were so heavy. "They pay you by the pound", Johnnie told us.

That night, my friend and I agree to pick-up the poles after school the next day. I'd just bought an old '55 Ford pick-up truck for $400 and this would be my first opportunity to use the truck to haul something. I knew the poles would be heavy, but my buddy was a heavyweight so lifting the steel out of the gym and loading into the truck shouldn't be much of a problem, I thought.

The next day, I pick-up my buddy and we head to Johnnie's. Flores wan't home and his wife Rose unlocked the Gym for us. Since I'm the smallest, I must climb under the ring and roll the polls to the side, where we can life them out. I go under, try to push one of the poles to the side and it wouldn't budge, like it was stuck to the cement floor. I finally brace myself and push my feet against the bottom of the ring and slowly roll all four to the side, one at a time. That took about half an hour. We then try to lift the poles up and out from under the ring, but it was no easy job, those things were so damn heavy the two of us could barely lift them, but we did, and about an hour later finally had all four in my truck. We tied a red rag to the back of the load since it was sticking way out the back of the pick-up truck bed.

Before we climb into the cab of the truck, I look at how the load is resting in my truck. The back was weighed down so much it looked like the front wheels were going raise off the ground, like a dragster doing a "wheelie" as it leaves the starting line. We'd wasted enough time loading the steel and wanted to hit the road and find a scrap metal yard. As we drove, we knew we had a fortune in scrap metal in our possession, and started to plan how we'd spend the money, my friend considered using his half as down payment on a motorcycle he wanted. I'd probably just open a bank account with my half? We headed up to San Fernando Road and found a scrap metal yard in Sun Valley.

The guy who manged the Scrap yard watched us pull in and stepped out to the truck. He looked over the load and said he'd buy it. I asked if he wanted us to unload the poles to weigh them and the guy told me leave them in the truck and he'd weigh the truck with the poles in the bed, then after unloading them would weigh the truck again, then do the math.

A few minutes later the truck was weighed and the man's helpers unloaded the weight from my truck. The old Ford pick-up actually looked relieved to have the weight off it's back. The guy went to the scale, jotted down a number and then went to his cash register. He pulled out a small wad of cash and brought it to us. All totaled the four heavy ring posts were worth a little under $19.

Needless to say, the amount fell way below what we expected to get, but what the hell, we took the money and left. We each made about nine bucks, which wasn't so bad in 1969. Jack-In-The-Box was paying us about $1.50 an hour back then. At the time I could buy gas for 25 cents a gallon (gas war price). Al didn't get his down payment and I didn't open a savings account, but Johnny got rid of his junk, and nine bucks beat a sharp-stick-in-the-eye, so we were happy.

In those days, all we were concerned about was the upcoming L.A. Golden Gloves Championships. In our minds, were were one day going to get rich boxing. It was fun to dream. Now it's fun to remember. Those truly were "the good old days".

And to my good friend, heavyweight Alan "Kit" Boursse', rest in peace amigo.


-Rick Farris
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Rick....I have lots of fond momories of the Hollywood Legion, but the one I treasure the most is the night that Keeny Teran, shown in a 1946 photo above, fought Gil Cadilli in a 6 rounder and Enrique Bolanos vs Eddie Chavez in the main, no matter how old I get, I will never forget that nite, that nite lives on with me..... :TU:
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Rick....I have lots of fond momories of the Hollywood Legion, but the one I treasure the most is the night that Keeny Teran, shown in a 1946 photo above, fought Gil Cadilli in a 6 rounder and Enrique Bolanos vs Eddie Chavez in the main, no matter how old I get, I will never forget that nite, that nite lives on with me..... :TU:[/quote]
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Frank . . . That's the fight I was thinking about when I expressed my desire to turn back the clock and sit ringside at the Hollywood Legion. I know you've seen so many fights that if this was "the one" you'd like to see again, I'd like to see it too. What you feel about the Teran-Cadilli six-round war, is what I feel about the Dwight Hawkins-Bobby Valdez bout that happened nearly twenty years later. Los Angeles was one helluva fight town in it's day.

-Rick Farris
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Joe Rivers . . .

Frank, I'm not big into searching out boxer's gravesites, but I believe Joe Rivers is buried in East L.A. over near the Eastside Boys Club. Everytime I pass the cemetary, I see all those big, majestic headstones, fit for a champion, for sure. However, I was told that River's was buried in an unmarked grave for years, before somebody finally paid to have a small plaque put over it identifying the former boxer. I may not have the story correct, but it was something like that?

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kikibalt wrote:Hollywood Legion Stadium

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Frank, thanks for sharing the great pictures of the Hollywood Stadium.
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Rick Farris wrote:Joe Rivers . . .

Frank, I'm not big into searching out boxer's gravesites, but I believe Joe Rivers is buried in East L.A. over near the Eastside Boys Club. Everytime I pass the cemetary, I see all those big, majestic headstones, fit for a champion, for sure. However, I was told that River's was buried in an unmarked grave for years, before somebody finally paid to have a small plaque put over it identifying the former boxer. I may not have the story correct, but it was something like that?

-Rick Farris
Rick...I have no knowledge about Joe Rivers burial site, the cemetery you're referring to is possibly the Calvery Cemetery which is on Whittier Blvd.
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Frank, thanks for sharing the great pictures of the Hollywood Stadium.
thanks, Tom...
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I've been thinking a lot of Hap Navarro lately, all that he has shared with us here, and at the CBZ.
Hap, hope your are doing well!

-Rick
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SCHOOL DAYS

They called them Summit Schools. They were schools for kids that were on probation. It was a part of the San Diego County School system. I worked at Juvenile Hall and at these Summit Schools. They were spread all around the county.Little store fronts that dotted each neighborhood. I don't think anyone in the vicinity really knew what they were. There'd be a probation officer at the door in case there was a problem. Me,the teacher,would be inside trying to get across Readin',Writin',and 'Rithmitic.

The school I remember the most was the Summit School located on Logan Avenue in the Barrio. It was in a two story building. The second floor was the school. The first floor was a boxing gym. I recall that the gym was a part of the Chicano Federation that was down the street.

The classroom I had was the school. All ages and grade levels mixed together. They tried to seperate the rival gangs from each other,but it still became an act of vigilence to see that no trouble broke out amongst the students. These kids lived at home and would take the bus to school. Never knew what they'd bring to class with them. Bottom line was that there wasn't a hell of a lot of learning going on.

The boxing gym on the first floor didn't enhance the academic atmosphere. From the the second floor ,where me and the students were,you could look down to the boxing gym. As the fighters would file in and begin working out:hitting bags,skipping rope,and sparring.Soon the building got pretty noisy.

These kids had been locked up.Like I said,they were on probation. Seeing a bunch of boxers downstairs hitting each other made things virtually impossible for me. The kids all wanted to go downstaira and box.

To tell you the truth,it would have been all right with me. But I guess that ain't the purpose of schoolin'. But if it would have been up to me,I would have given those kids the green light to go downstairs. Only thing is,I'd have to tell them they could only use boxing gloves. Knives and guns aren't permitted.
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Rick Farris wrote:Rick....I have lots of fond momories of the Hollywood Legion, but the one I treasure the most is the night that Keeny Teran, shown in a 1946 photo above, fought Gil Cadilli in a 6 rounder and Enrique Bolanos vs Eddie Chavez in the main, no matter how old I get, I will never forget that nite, that nite lives on with me..... :TU:


Frank . . . That's the fight I was thinking about when I expressed my desire to turn back the clock and sit ringside at the Hollywood Legion. I know you've seen so many fights that if this was "the one" you'd like to see again, I'd like to see it too. What you feel about the Teran-Cadilli six-round war, is what I feel about the Dwight Hawkins-Bobby Valdez bout that happened nearly twenty years later. Los Angeles was one helluva fight town in it's day.

-Rick Farris
Rick...In those years local boxing was a big thing, with no major teams other then the Rams the 5 daily papers used to give boxing big write-ups with pictures of the fighters fighting at the local venues 3-4 days a week, and when cross-town rivalries such as the Teran/Cadilli rivalry would developed they would get some much ink that by fight time the venue would be jammed with fans, you could feel the electricity in the air, and how a 15 year old kid would feel been there?, well I think you can imagine.... :TU:
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dagosd2000 wrote:SCHOOL DAYS

They called them Summit Schools. They were schools for kids that were on probation. It was a part of the San Diego County School system. I worked at Juvenile Hall and at these Summit Schools. They were spread all around the county.Little store fronts that dotted each neighborhood. I don't think anyone in the vicinity really knew what they were. There'd be a probation officer at the door in case there was a problem. Me,the teacher,would be inside trying to get across Readin',Writin',and 'Rithmitic.

The school I remember the most was the Summit School located on Logan Avenue in the Barrio. It was in a two story building. The second floor was the school. The first floor was a boxing gym. I recall that the gym was a part of the Chicano Federation that was down the street.

The classroom I had was the school. All ages and grade levels mixed together. They tried to seperate the rival gangs from each other,but it still became an act of vigilence to see that no trouble broke out amongst the students. These kids lived at home and would take the bus to school. Never knew what they'd bring to class with them. Bottom line was that there wasn't a hell of a lot of learning going on.

The boxing gym on the first floor didn't enhance the academic atmosphere. From the the second floor ,where me and the students were,you could look down to the boxing gym. As the fighters would file in and begin working out:hitting bags,skipping rope,and sparring.Soon the building got pretty noisy.

These kids had been locked up.Like I said,they were on probation. Seeing a bunch of boxers downstairs hitting each other made things virtually impossible for me. The kids all wanted to go downstaira and box.

To tell you the truth,it would have been all right with me. But I guess that ain't the purpose of schoolin'. But if it would have been up to me,I would have given those kids the green light to go downstairs. Only thing is,I'd have to tell them they could only use boxing gloves. Knives and guns aren't permitted.
Some kids have turned around, from bad student to good, just from having something like boxing in their lives. I know it doesn't work for everybody, but it sure worked for me. I have a feeling that if the school district had the good sense to let you run the class "your way", some of those kids would have gotten a lot more schooling.
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kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Rick....I have lots of fond momories of the Hollywood Legion, but the one I treasure the most is the night that Keeny Teran, shown in a 1946 photo above, fought Gil Cadilli in a 6 rounder and Enrique Bolanos vs Eddie Chavez in the main, no matter how old I get, I will never forget that nite, that nite lives on with me..... :TU:


Frank . . . That's the fight I was thinking about when I expressed my desire to turn back the clock and sit ringside at the Hollywood Legion. I know you've seen so many fights that if this was "the one" you'd like to see again, I'd like to see it too. What you feel about the Teran-Cadilli six-round war, is what I feel about the Dwight Hawkins-Bobby Valdez bout that happened nearly twenty years later. Los Angeles was one helluva fight town in it's day.

-Rick Farris
Rick...In those years local boxing was a big thing, with no major teams other then the Rams the 5 daily papers used to give boxing big write-ups with pictures of the fighters fighting at the local venues 3-4 days a week, and when cross-town rivalries such as the Teran/Cadilli rivalry would developed they would get some much ink that by fight time the venue would be jammed with fans, you could feel the electricity in the air, and how a 15 year old kid would feel been there, well I think you can imagine.... :TU:
Yes Frank, I can imagine. I can feel it. When I was 15, I felt the same as you did. You were a part of something very big, and when I came up, it may not have been quite as big as it was in the forties, but it was still pretty big, bigger than life to me. That electricity you describe, I felt it everytime I'd see a young, skinny Mando Ramos bounce down the aisle to the Olympic Auditorium ring. That's what I wanted, and one day I got it. I would not trade my memories for anything in the world, I can only imagine yours!

-Rick
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Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Rick....I have lots of fond momories of the Hollywood Legion, but the one I treasure the most is the night that Keeny Teran, shown in a 1946 photo above, fought Gil Cadilli in a 6 rounder and Enrique Bolanos vs Eddie Chavez in the main, no matter how old I get, I will never forget that nite, that nite lives on with me..... :TU:


Frank . . . That's the fight I was thinking about when I expressed my desire to turn back the clock and sit ringside at the Hollywood Legion. I know you've seen so many fights that if this was "the one" you'd like to see again, I'd like to see it too. What you feel about the Teran-Cadilli six-round war, is what I feel about the Dwight Hawkins-Bobby Valdez bout that happened nearly twenty years later. Los Angeles was one helluva fight town in it's day.

-Rick Farris
Rick...In those years local boxing was a big thing, with no major teams other then the Rams the 5 daily papers used to give boxing big write-ups with pictures of the fighters fighting at the local venues 3-4 days a week, and when cross-town rivalries such as the Teran/Cadilli rivalry would developed they would get some much ink that by fight time the venue would be jammed with fans, you could feel the electricity in the air, and how a 15 year old kid would feel been there, well I think you can imagine.... :TU:
Yes Frank, I can imagine. I can feel it. When I was 15, I felt the same as you did. You were a part of something very big, and when I came up, it may not have been quite as big as it was in the forties, but it was still pretty big, bigger than life to me. That electricity you describe, I felt it everytime I'd see a young, skinny Mando Ramos bounce down the aisle to the Olympic Auditorium ring. That's what I wanted, and one day I got it. I would not trade my memories for anything in the world, I can only imagine yours!

-Rick
Rick...One fight that I can say I could feel that electricity like the Teran/Cadilli/Bolanos/Chavez fights, was the Mando Ramos vs Sugar Ramos fight, THERE was electricity in the air that night.... :box:
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Rick, et al:

I am just over a three-day stomach flu bug which is raising hell around us here. But the photos of my beautiful Legion Stadium nudged me into recall with a bit of a smile. What a damned pity it is that you all (except Frank) didn;t get to attend the shows there. It was an incredibly wholesome, sanitary, outing into a near-perfect world of pro boxing, honestly, fellas. There will never be another club like our Legion for class, righteousness, and artistic mayhem, to coin a phrase. Every seat was an easy vantage point. To give ;you an idea of the facillity in upkeep, the place was cleaned spotless after a show in a four-hour shift by one man, our guy Julio, who slept in the dressing rooms overnight rather than go home to East L.A. so very late.

One of the last photos shown above was the old wooden shack that lasted for about 15 years, preceding the ultra modern, earthquake proof building also shown above. On fight night in the old days some of the Legionaires patrolled the roof top of the shack with buckets of water, in case a small fire broke out from the heavy smoking that went on inside. By the way it is just possible that Georgie Hansford, who boxed the opening show at the new building, may also hold the record for number of appearances at Hollywood. He was an incredibly popular teen-age idol who was ranked nationally for ages. He was the first of two brothers boxing, the other being Herbie Hansford.
More later, friends.

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Rick, et al:

I am just over a three-day stomach flu bug which is raising hell around us here. But the photos of my beautiful Legion Stadium nudged me into recall with a bit of a smile. What a damned pity it is that you all (except Frank) didn;t get to attend the shows there. It was an incredibly wholesome, sanitary, outing into a near-perfect world of pro boxing, honestly, fellas. There will never be another club like our Legion for class, righteousness, and artistic mayhem, to coin a phrase. Every seat was an easy vantage point. To give ;you an idea of the facillity in upkeep, the place was cleaned spotless after a show in a four-hour shift by one man, our guy Julio, who slept in the dressing rooms overnight rather than go home to East L.A. so very late.

One of the last photos shown above was the old wooden shack that lasted for about 15 years, preceding the ultra modern, earthquake proof building also shown above. On fight night in the old days some of the Legionaires patrolled the roof top of the shack with buckets of water, in case a small fire broke out from the heavy smoking that went on inside. By the way it is just possible that Georgie Hansford, who boxed the opening show at the new building, may also hold the record for number of appearances at Hollywood. He was an incredibly popular teen-age idol who was ranked nationally for ages. He was the first of two brothers boxing, the other being Herbie Hansford.
More later, friends.

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Rick...One fight that I can say I could feel that electricity like the Teran/Cadilli/Bolanos/Chavez fights, was the Mando Ramos vs Sugar Ramos fight, THERE was electricity in the air that night.... :box:
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Ramos vs. Ramos- "1970 Fight of the Year"

Frank . . . I was at the Olympic for the Ramos-Ramos fight and you're right, the energy was so strong you could feel it. I was with my girlfriend and her family. Ruben Navarro was working the crowd, wandering up and down the aisles, stopping to sit with a friend or fan who'd call him over.

As I pass by, I hear Ruben shout my name, his voice was unique, deep and gravelly, "Hey Ricky Farris, come here". I moved over to his seat and he's with baseball pitcher, Rudy May, of the Angels. Ruben wasn't drinking, but he was f__ked up. Probably reds, or some downer. The Angel's pitcher hands Ruben a joint, and the "Maravilla Kid invites me to join them outside to get high. I declined, I was returning from the restroom and had to get back to my friends.

Mando Muniz opened the pro card in a scheduled six-rounder and won by KO. The TV main-event had a hot little fighter from Mexico, Ricardo Delgado, who stopped his opponent, a tough Texan, Tony Moreno. However, everybody had come to see L.A.'s newest box-office king, Mando Ramos. Ramos had just lost his lightweight title a few months earlier, having been cut to ribbons by former champ, Ismael Laguna.

Ramos had surgery too remove scar tissue from his brows after the losing the title, and Sugar Ramos would be the man who'd test the effectivness of Mando's plastic surgery. Maybe they should have given the tender new flesh more time to heal? What would follow is one of the bloodiest most exciting fight I'd ever see. Like Frank said, it rates with the best of his era and mine, of ANY era. I won't bother to describe a fight that many here have had the pleasure of watching on DVD, but it was a barn burner x ten.

When you think of guys like Aragon, and Bolanos, and Manuel Ortiz, Teran, Cadilli . . . you also have to remember Mando Ramos, he was cut from the same piece of cloth. True L.A. Boxing legends. :TU:


-Rick Farris
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Dongee wrote:Rick, et al:

I am just over a three-day stomach flu bug which is raising hell around us here. But the photos of my beautiful Legion Stadium nudged me into recall with a bit of a smile. What a damned pity it is that you all (except Frank) didn;t get to attend the shows there. It was an incredibly wholesome, sanitary, outing into a near-perfect world of pro boxing, honestly, fellas. There will never be another club like our Legion for class, righteousness, and artistic mayhem, to coin a phrase. Every seat was an easy vantage point. To give ;you an idea of the facillity in upkeep, the place was cleaned spotless after a show in a four-hour shift by one man, our guy Julio, who slept in the dressing rooms overnight rather than go home to East L.A. so very late.

One of the last photos shown above was the old wooden shack that lasted for about 15 years, preceding the ultra modern, earthquake proof building also shown above. On fight night in the old days some of the Legionaires patrolled the roof top of the shack with buckets of water, in case a small fire broke out from the heavy smoking that went on inside. By the way it is just possible that Georgie Hansford, who boxed the opening show at the new building, may also hold the record for number of appearances at Hollywood. He was an incredibly popular teen-age idol who was ranked nationally for ages. He was the first of two brothers boxing, the other being Herbie Hansford.
More later, friends.

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Rick...There was an abundance of prelim fighters back when Hap was at the Hollywood Legion,
I am going to post some pictures of some of them, maybe Hap can jump in here and tell us a thing or two about them.
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kikibalt wrote:
Dongee wrote:Rick, et al:

I am just over a three-day stomach flu bug which is raising hell around us here. But the photos of my beautiful Legion Stadium nudged me into recall with a bit of a smile. What a damned pity it is that you all (except Frank) didn;t get to attend the shows there. It was an incredibly wholesome, sanitary, outing into a near-perfect world of pro boxing, honestly, fellas. There will never be another club like our Legion for class, righteousness, and artistic mayhem, to coin a phrase. Every seat was an easy vantage point. To give ;you an idea of the facillity in upkeep, the place was cleaned spotless after a show in a four-hour shift by one man, our guy Julio, who slept in the dressing rooms overnight rather than go home to East L.A. so very late.

One of the last photos shown above was the old wooden shack that lasted for about 15 years, preceding the ultra modern, earthquake proof building also shown above. On fight night in the old days some of the Legionaires patrolled the roof top of the shack with buckets of water, in case a small fire broke out from the heavy smoking that went on inside. By the way it is just possible that Georgie Hansford, who boxed the opening show at the new building, may also hold the record for number of appearances at Hollywood. He was an incredibly popular teen-age idol who was ranked nationally for ages. He was the first of two brothers boxing, the other being Herbie Hansford.
More later, friends.

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Hope you feel better, Hap.
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kikibalt wrote:Rick...There was an abundance of prelim fighters back when Hap was at the Hollywood Legion,
I am going to post some pictures of some of them, maybe Hap can jump in here and tell us a thing or two about them.
That would be GREAT!!
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To touch on the Teran-Cadilli match mentioned by Frank and Rick:

It would be hard to visualize another such scenario nowadays because that was such a unique situation, and that is why it will always remain with people like Kiki and myself. I thought up that match, but I was by no means the first to do so. Half of Belvedere and possibly all of Maravilla was wondering if those two kids would face each other in regulation battle. I merely saw it as a distinct possibility and I wanted to see that fight myself.

Here you had two kids, encouraged and schooled by one man from the start, stablemates even at an early age. Johnny Forbes had a reputation for finding youngsters, counselilng them, training them, and giving them a sense of worth. When it became obvious that the two might be on a collision path as pros, he released Keeny, first to Manuel Ortiz, then two Ray Luna.

Fast forwarding to the actual fight, it helped to sell out our Legion Stadium as a semi-windup to Bolanos and Eddie Chavez, on our premiere show of the year, the "Fight for Lives" in June, 1950.
The fans didn't really know what to expect from such a match; it could have turned out to be a wild-swinging slugfest, or a dull dancing match. But the two kids dug deep into their ring education, employing every scientific tactic they had been exposed to, leading effectively, counter-punching, blocking, parrying,using footwork that belied their tender years, so that it became a classic boxing match between two young men who might have been conditioned for a ten round boxing match! For months on end, our Legiion fans would talk about the two prodigies.To top it off, the battle ebbed and flowed, with first one kid, then the other, assuming command. Fellas, that bout could not have been scripted better at the movie studios surrounding our Legion Stadium.

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Dongee wrote:Rick, et al:

I am just over a three-day stomach flu bug which is raising hell around us here. But the photos of my beautiful Legion Stadium nudged me into recall with a bit of a smile. What a damned pity it is that you all (except Frank) didn;t get to attend the shows there. It was an incredibly wholesome, sanitary, outing into a near-perfect world of pro boxing, honestly, fellas. There will never be another club like our Legion for class, righteousness, and artistic mayhem, to coin a phrase. Every seat was an easy vantage point. To give ;you an idea of the facillity in upkeep, the place was cleaned spotless after a show in a four-hour shift by one man, our guy Julio, who slept in the dressing rooms overnight rather than go home to East L.A. so very late.

One of the last photos shown above was the old wooden shack that lasted for about 15 years, preceding the ultra modern, earthquake proof building also shown above. On fight night in the old days some of the Legionaires patrolled the roof top of the shack with buckets of water, in case a small fire broke out from the heavy smoking that went on inside. By the way it is just possible that Georgie Hansford, who boxed the opening show at the new building, may also hold the record for number of appearances at Hollywood. He was an incredibly popular teen-age idol who was ranked nationally for ages. He was the first of two brothers boxing, the other being Herbie Hansford.
More later, friends.

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Two of the most promising prospects in the early 1950's, were the Campos brothers,
They fought prelims and mains at Hollywood when Hap was there.

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Frankie Campos
I think this photo was shot at the Teamsters Gym.

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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Rick Farris wrote:Rick...One fight that I can say I could feel that electricity like the Teran/Cadilli/Bolanos/Chavez fights, was the Mando Ramos vs Sugar Ramos fight, THERE was electricity in the air that night.... :box:
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Ramos vs. Ramos- "1970 Fight of the Year"

Frank . . . I was at the Olympic for the Ramos-Ramos fight and you're right, the energy was so strong you could feel it. I was with my girlfriend and her family. Ruben Navarro was working the crowd, wandering up and down the aisles, stopping to sit with a friend or fan who'd call him over.

As I pass by, I hear Ruben shout my name, his voice was unique, deep and gravelly, "Hey Ricky Farris, come here". I moved over to his seat and he's with baseball pitcher, Rudy May, of the Angels. Ruben wasn't drinking, but he was f__ked up. Probably reds, or some downer. The Angel's pitcher hands Ruben a joint, and the "Maravilla Kid invites me to join them outside to get high. I declined, I was returning from the restroom and had to get back to my friends.

Mando Muniz opened the pro card in a scheduled six-rounder and won by KO. The TV main-event had a hot little fighter from Mexico, Ricardo Delgado, who stopped his opponent, a tough Texan, Tony Moreno. However, everybody had come to see L.A.'s newest box-office king, Mando Ramos. Ramos had just lost his lightweight title a few months earlier, having been cut to ribbons by former champ, Ismael Laguna.

Ramos had surgery too remove scar tissue from his brows after the losing the title, and Sugar Ramos would be the man who'd test the effectivness of Mando's plastic surgery. Maybe they should have given the tender new flesh more time to heal? What would follow is one of the bloodiest most exciting fight I'd ever see. Like Frank said, it rates with the best of his era and mine, of ANY era. I won't bother to describe a fight that many here have had the pleasure of watching on DVD, but it was a barn burner x ten.

When you think of guys like Aragon, and Bolanos, and Manuel Ortiz, Teran, Cadilli . . . you also have to remember Mando Ramos, he was cut from the same piece of cloth. True L.A. Boxing legends. :TU:


-Rick Farris
Rick,Frank
I saw the replay of that fight. I thought that was Mando's best effort. Considering how Mando's work ethic was in the gym and his use of drugs and alcohol...well if its and buts were candy and nuts, it would be one hell of a Christmas.
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dagosd2000 wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Rick...One fight that I can say I could feel that electricity like the Teran/Cadilli/Bolanos/Chavez fights, was the Mando Ramos vs Sugar Ramos fight, THERE was electricity in the air that night.... :box:
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Ramos vs. Ramos- "1970 Fight of the Year"

Frank . . . I was at the Olympic for the Ramos-Ramos fight and you're right, the energy was so strong you could feel it. I was with my girlfriend and her family. Ruben Navarro was working the crowd, wandering up and down the aisles, stopping to sit with a friend or fan who'd call him over.

As I pass by, I hear Ruben shout my name, his voice was unique, deep and gravelly, "Hey Ricky Farris, come here". I moved over to his seat and he's with baseball pitcher, Rudy May, of the Angels. Ruben wasn't drinking, but he was f__ked up. Probably reds, or some downer. The Angel's pitcher hands Ruben a joint, and the "Maravilla Kid invites me to join them outside to get high. I declined, I was returning from the restroom and had to get back to my friends.

Mando Muniz opened the pro card in a scheduled six-rounder and won by KO. The TV main-event had a hot little fighter from Mexico, Ricardo Delgado, who stopped his opponent, a tough Texan, Tony Moreno. However, everybody had come to see L.A.'s newest box-office king, Mando Ramos. Ramos had just lost his lightweight title a few months earlier, having been cut to ribbons by former champ, Ismael Laguna.

Ramos had surgery too remove scar tissue from his brows after the losing the title, and Sugar Ramos would be the man who'd test the effectivness of Mando's plastic surgery. Maybe they should have given the tender new flesh more time to heal? What would follow is one of the bloodiest most exciting fight I'd ever see. Like Frank said, it rates with the best of his era and mine, of ANY era. I won't bother to describe a fight that many here have had the pleasure of watching on DVD, but it was a barn burner x ten.

When you think of guys like Aragon, and Bolanos, and Manuel Ortiz, Teran, Cadilli . . . you also have to remember Mando Ramos, he was cut from the same piece of cloth. True L.A. Boxing legends. :TU:


-Rick Farris
Rick,Frank
I saw the replay of that fight. I thought that was Mando's best effort. Considering how Mando's work ethic was in the gym and his use of drugs and alcohol...well if its and buts were candy and nuts, it would be one hell of a Christmas.
I too think that, that was one of Mando's best efforts...
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Rick,Frank
I went up to the Olympic to watch the first Indian Red/Hedge Lewis fight. Talk about electricity in and out of the ring. The truth was I saw around a dozen big fights in LA. Either at the Forum or the Olympic. No comparision to what was going on in San Diego,but the big fights in TJ were something special. I saw Davey Moore jump out of the ring with all his boxing attire after beating Kid Irapuato. Wrote about that one. Dad took me to see Sugar Ray fight Memo Ayon. Wrote about that one too.

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