Hypothetical Match-Up Game

[Robinson]

Frazier wins by dec. Tunney struggles to keep him away
and is floored in the 6th but is able to stay mobile for the
ten rounds.

Frazier UD 10.

Mike Weaver (1981) vs Tommy morrison (1991) 12 rounds

[allworld80]

Weaver is game, as usual. But as usual, his game isn't good enough. A prime Morrison takes Weaver apart in under 6.

Angel Manfready (2003) vs Amir Khan @ 135

[Goodnight, Irene]

Manfredy. Khan didn't impress me before his catastrophe, & we've seen too little to reverse that opinion since.

Tommy Gibbons & Tommy Loughran at 175...

[harrygreb]

gibbons is almost great. a tiny shade below that elite fighter position. i take him to take a points win over 15 rounds against loughran who is also close to being a top drawer miller. gibbons throws the heavier shots and loughran is knocked off balance by tommy's cuffs on occasion especially in the 11th and 12th but does not go down. gibbons shows more facial evidence in this tough dust up than loughran but takes a deserved UD.


heavyweight contest
danny mcalinden v "gunboat" smith

[Goodnight, Irene]

Smith drowns him in the deep waters of round twenty, in a sluggish affair through the afternoon heat.

A Light-Heavyweight Showdown: Harry "Kid" Matthews & Michael "Double M" Moorer square-off over twelve rounds...

[allworld80]

Matthews by a narrow decision. Moorer's power is evident, but the kid is able to avoid anything big and pick up the win.

Two fights @ 126

Salvador Sanchez vs Manny Pacquiao
Marco Antonio Barrera vs Rocky Lockridge

[Goodnight, Irene]

Barrera endures the rocky moments & takes some licks, but gets the job done with a competitive UD. Sanchez-Pacquiao may come down to the distance. Fifteen would suit Sanchez's stunning endurance better. Over twelve, I think it's desperately close. Sanchez has the class, but he's truly never seen anything quite as unorthodox or bizarrely lethal as the bigger Pacquiao. I say Pacquiao wins a very narrow decision first-up, before losing in more convincing fashion to Sanchez in a rematch.

The 2005 vintage model of Ricky Hatton lines up against peak versions of...

Arturo Gatti
Micky Ward
Zab Judah

[harrygreb]

ricky beats gatti - hatton is heavier, hits hard and is smarter than gatti at his best. good contest for the 10 rounds before ref calls it a day

hatton TKO 10

ricky beats ward who is vulnerable to hattons body attacks. hatton again outweighs his man and micky is TKO'd in round 8

hatton TKO 8

ricky is beaten by judah who uses his greater speed to amass a decent points lead going into the 12th. he is floored by ricky who is cut and knows he is behind but zab rises again to last out the round and take the decision.

judah UD


middleweight clash;
roberto duran (1982) v sugar ray robinson (1952)

[mhagler91490]

superflyweight

ricky beats gatti - hatton is heavier, hits hard and is smarter than gatti at his best. good contest for the 10 rounds before ref calls it a day

hatton TKO 10

ricky beats ward who is vulnerable to hattons body attacks. hatton again outweighs his man and micky is TKO'd in round 8

hatton TKO 8

ricky is beaten by judah who uses his greater speed to amass a decent points lead going into the 12th. he is floored by ricky who is cut and knows he is behind but zab rises again to last out the round and take the decision.

judah UD


middleweight clash;
roberto duran (1982) v sugar ray robinson (1952)

Sugar Ray Robinson would always be too big and too strong, the difference is Roberto was just blown up to middleweigt and Robinson by tthis time is a full fledged middleweight.

Robinson by mid to late round TKO

Jiro Wantanbe vs Pancho Villa
12 and 15 rounds

[harrygreb]

robinson was past his best in 1952 and retired in that year knowing it too.
duran was a very very good middleweight in 1982 (when he could be bothered to train) i reckon its alot closer than you had it. i'll leave your match-up to someone who knows jiro's merits better than i do. he'd have to be some fighter to beat villa though.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Watanabe isn't beating Villa, but I think he's putting in a, "not-without-a-fight" type performance. It's just that Villa does just about everything better than him. I can only see one victor.

This, on the other hand, is more difficult for me...

Arguello & Mosley over twelve rounds at Lightweight...

[allworld80]

Mosley was a machine gunner at 135, and not taking anything away from the legendary Argullo, but Mosley gets his man via a 10th round stoppage. Blistering speed and power are too much.

Southpaw special..

Sharmba Mitchell (2000) vs Zab Judah (2003) @ 140

[Goodnight, Irene]

Interesting fight. A swing-call, IMO. I'm going to side with Judah, whose speed & punching angles discourage Mitchell from being as offensive as he'd like. A decision win for Judah, who took the early rounds big.

Jack Sharkey & Ingemar Johansson shape up for fifteen rounds...

[AngryGoon38]

Interesting fight. A swing-call, IMO. I'm going to side with Judah, whose speed & punching angles discourage Mitchell from being as offensive as he'd like. A decision win for Judah, who took the early rounds big.

Jack Sharkey & Ingemar Johansson shape up for fifteen rounds...

Sharkey by UD.


Jeff Lacy vs William Joppy

&

Harry "Kid" Mathews vs Virgil Hill

[Goodnight, Irene]

The pre-Calzaghe Lacy has the punch --- & the self-confidence --- to KO Joppy, & I believe he would. Matthews emerges with a split decision over Hill, in a good fight.

At the peak of his powers, "Terrible" Terry Norris takes on...

"Ferocious" Fernando Vargas (2000)
Felix "Tito" Trinidad (2000)
Oscar "The Golden Boy" De La Hoya (2002)

All twelve rounds, all 154lbs...

[AngryGoon38]

The pre-Calzaghe Lacy has the punch --- & the self-confidence --- to KO Joppy, & I believe he would. Matthews emerges with a split decision over Hill, in a good fight.

At the peak of his powers, "Terrible" Terry Norris takes on...

"Ferocious" Fernando Vargas (2000)
Felix "Tito" Trinidad (2000)
Oscar "The Golden Boy" De La Hoya (2002)

All twelve rounds, all 154lbs...

Tko10 over Vargas
L12Md to Trinidad
W12Sd over DLH


John Duddy vs Carlos Baldomir

&

Jorge Castro vs Vito Anterfermo

[harrygreb]

baldomir UD 12

vito TKO 10


world heavyweight title 15 rounds;
larry holmes v joe louis

[Robinson]

This is a tough one for both guys.

Holmes wins a very gruelling match by split dec. His jab and
a knock down of louis early on secure his victory.
Louis wobbles Holmes in the middle rounds, but Larry finds when
he is able to move and dance does enough to frustrate Joe.

A great and entertaining fight....

Holmes SD 15.

Gene Tunney (1926) Vs Jimmy Young (1977) 15 rounds.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Tunney does everything Young does better, but he just can't get, "up" for his elusive opponent, who makes him look bad. It's Young who has fewer tools overall, though, & it's Young who loses, by cards of 9-5-1, 10-5, & 9-6.

Ray Leonard (1987 vs Hagler) against Bernard Hopkins (2001 vs Trinidad) over twelve rounds...

[allworld80]

Ray's speed and smarts carry the day for him in a very close decision. Hopkins best moments come in the clinch and with dirty boxing. MD to Ray.

Evander Holyfield vs Jack Dempsey @ 190

[Robinson]

Thats a cool fight TF.

I see Holy out working a malicious and hard hitting Dempsey.
The fight hangs in the balance in the middle rounds for both
guys.

Holyfield TKO 12.

Jack Johnson (1910) Vs Jack Dempsey (1919) 15 rounds.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Dempsey's whirlwind assault too heavy-handed for Johnson to deal with. I can see Johnson trying to tie Dempsey up, unwilling to trade. I don't think he can hold him off, though. Dempsey came at you with a fire in his belly Johnson never saw. Dempsey TKO5.

15 Rounds At Welterweight --- Thomas Hearns & Curtis Cokes...

[AngryGoon38]

Dempsey's whirlwind assault too heavy-handed for Johnson to deal with. I can see Johnson trying to tie Dempsey up, unwilling to trade. I don't think he can hold him off, though. Dempsey came at you with a fire in his belly Johnson never saw. Dempsey TKO5.

15 Rounds At Welterweight --- Thomas Hearns & Curtis Cokes...

Hearns by Tko8.


Jose Napoles(1969) vs Wilfredo Benitez(1978)

&

Felix Trinidad(2000) vs Mike McCallum(1987)

[harrygreb]

the 1969 version of napoles is virtually indestructable. he is so, so good in that year that the 1978 benitez loses by TKO in the 8th. the improved benitez of 2 years later still loses to mantequilla (1969) but prob makes it thru to the last bell.

mccallum (1987) beats tito (2000) with a decisive points advantage. flooring trinidad in the 6th, his superiority at this stage in both their careers is clear.
mike UD 12

welterweight
napoles (1973) v fritzie zivic (peak)

[The Great John L]

Napoles controls most of the action, but his face gives out to the aggressive Zivic and the ref stops the fight due to cuts and swelling around both eyes.

Zivic by TKO 10

Cuevas (prime) vs Maragarito (current)