BEST CHIN IN THE PAST 30 YEARS AT HW

shanbopop · Post by **shanbopop** » 30 Jun 2004, 17:01

Mercer to me had the best chin in the past 30 years by the time he was KOd by Klitchko he was l42 years old!WHO DO YOU ALL PICK?

shanbopop · Post by **shanbopop** » 30 Jun 2004, 17:23

SINCE NOONE BOTHERS TO POST A REPLY I WILL POST ONE TO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS....MERCER HAD THE BEST CHIN IN HW DIVISION IN PAST 30 YEARS

Eric the Viking · Post by **Eric the Viking** » 30 Jun 2004, 18:37

enrique · Post by **enrique** » 30 Jun 2004, 20:50

GEORGE CHUVALO WITHOUT A DOUBT........ LOOK AT HIS RECORD.

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 30 Jun 2004, 21:58

Ali and Chuvalo.
I wouldn't put Mercer along the lines of those two b/c even as old men Ali and George were never knocked down, and Mercer was down against Holy in his prime as well (I know it was a body shot but it goes along with the whole toughness argument).

McCall is probably up there as well but what punchers other then Lewis and Bruno did he ever face???

Slapsie Maxie · Post by **Slapsie Maxie** » 01 Jul 2004, 06:54

I would not count Ali. Great chin, but two knockdowns I can think of ( Cooper and Frazier )

Chuvalo definitely

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Eric the Viking · Post by **Eric the Viking** » 01 Jul 2004, 11:55

Slapsie Maxie wrote:I would not count Ali. Great chin, but two knockdowns I can think of ( Cooper and Frazier )

Ali got up from both those KDs. Frazier and Foreman knocked Chuvalo OUT. (Of course the fact that Chuvalo was easier to hit than Ali probably had something to do with that, but that's more subjective than just looking at KDs and KOs.)

But both had outstanding beards.

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 01 Jul 2004, 15:11

Eric the Viking wrote:
Slapsie Maxie wrote:I would not count Ali. Great chin, but two knockdowns I can think of ( Cooper and Frazier )
Ali got up from both those KDs. Frazier and Foreman knocked Chuvalo OUT. (Of course the fact that Chuvalo was easier to hit than Ali probably had something to do with that, but that's more subjective than just looking at KDs and KOs.)

But both had outstanding beards.

Chuvalo was never knocked out, or even down. The Frazier fight was a stoppage on a horrible eye gash and against Forman he was stopped on his feet. Chuvalo was only ever hurt against George, who's one of the top 3 hardest punchers of all time.

The_Power · Post by **The_Power** » 01 Jul 2004, 17:21

Larry Holmes.

RAPID · Post by **RAPID** » 01 Jul 2004, 21:14

Without a doubt, has to be Ali. Over his career he has to have taken the most poundings than any other heavywieght. That was the main reason
he won most of his fights. Especially the big shots he's taken.

kovit · Post by **kovit** » 01 Jul 2004, 23:13

If Chuvalo ever fought like Earnie Shavers, the hardest puncher ever, then Shavers would be the only man to ever knockdown Chuvalo and most of all knock him down.

kovit · Post by **kovit** » 01 Jul 2004, 23:14

Knock Chuvalo out I meant.

mrbassie · Post by **mrbassie** » 01 Jul 2004, 23:58

McCall or Mercer.
Wasn't McCall supposed to have been fired from being Tyson's sparring partner because Tyson couldn't hurt or dominate him? I heard that but I have no idea if it's true or even if they ever sparred together for a fact.

Tyson should get a mention in his own right, he has a fantastic chin.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 02 Jul 2004, 07:14

Ali. You don't need a better chin than that.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 02 Jul 2004, 12:07

dempseyfire wrote:Chuvalo was never knocked out, or even down.

That's what I've always thought but I've seen on some other web-sites by some knowledglable posters that claim Oscar Bonavena may have scored a knockdown over Chuvalo, but very few people seem to have seen the fight.

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 02 Jul 2004, 19:20

Ollie McCall

revporl · Post by **revporl** » 03 Jul 2004, 10:09

Holmes deserves a mention. If he did get knocked down a few times, his powers of recovery were second to none vis a vis the Shavers fight. Depends how you judge chin I suppose....

Marciano Frazier · Post by **Marciano Frazier** » 03 Jul 2004, 14:41

Eric the Viking wrote:
Slapsie Maxie wrote:I would not count Ali. Great chin, but two knockdowns I can think of ( Cooper and Frazier )
Ali got up from both those KDs. Frazier and Foreman knocked Chuvalo OUT. (Of course the fact that Chuvalo was easier to hit than Ali probably had something to do with that, but that's more subjective than just looking at KDs and KOs.)

But both had outstanding beards.

They didn't knock Chuvalo out. Frazier stopped Chuvalo on a badly cut eye and a broken orbital bone, and Foreman stopped him by backing him into a corner and throwing a huge barrage of punches at him until Chuvalo's wife threw her purse into the ring.

In other words, Chuvalo was never actually knocked out or even down in 98 professional fights.

Chuvalo gets my vote for the best chin in the last 30 years.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 04 Jul 2004, 07:47

Slapsie Maxie wrote:I would not count Ali. Great chin, but two knockdowns I can think of ( Cooper and Frazier )

Chuvalo definitely

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Sonny Banks also scored a knockdown over a young Ali, he was also dropped as an Amatuer by a fighter who's name I cant recall (Hudson?) although Ali got up to win in both cases

Ali was also stopped as an Amatuer when he was about 15 by Kent Green although I think he was stopped on his feet by a much older fighter in that fight.

Still had one of the very best chins I've seen on a heavyweight.

wouter · Post by **wouter** » 04 Jul 2004, 08:26

Doug Jones didn't score a knockdown over Ali.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 04 Jul 2004, 08:30

wouter wrote:Doug Jones didn't score a knockdown over Ali.

Sorry I meant Sonny Banks.

dan the destroyer · Post by **dan the destroyer** » 05 Jul 2004, 19:16

Top three chins at heavyweight IMHO are...
3. George Foreman. Surprised to see he wasn't mentioned. Young & Ali notwithstanding. Even as an older man the younger fighters couldn't knock him down, had to outbox him (ie Morrison, Briggs, etc.)
2. Vitali Klitschko. I think Vitali has a great chin. 36 fights and he has not had so much as a standing 8 count. Did not fall vs. Lennox or Sanders (a little bit stunned though). Maybe voting Klitschko up this high is too early, we'll see.
1. George Chuvalo stood up to Ali, Ellis, Foreman, Mathis, Frazier, Bonavena and Terrell. He lost to each one of them but they never knocked him down, let alone out.

klompton · Post by **klompton** » 06 Jul 2004, 01:09

Bonavena dropped Chuvalo twice. The first was somewhat questionable but the second was definately legit. Arthur Mercante blew the call on both, one of the few times Ive seen him screw up. I have the film of that fight.

babulous · Post by **babulous** » 12 Jul 2004, 18:42

Damn, have everyone forgotten David Tua. The man been in w/ lewis the distance & Ibeabuchi haven't been knockdown officially 2 this day. Other honorable mentions, Chuvalo, & Holyfield.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 13 Jul 2004, 09:43

I would say Oliver McCall must be up there, Has he ever been floored?

one of the best displays of taking a punch has to be Ray Mercer in his match with Tommy Morrison, some of those left hooks he took would have floored alot of other heavies

BEST CHIN IN THE PAST 30 YEARS AT HW

BEST CHIN IN THE PAST 30 YEARS AT HW

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