calzaghe felt dawson wasn't ready yet

[Eric t]

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[Eric t]

i think Dawson has the protenial to do great things but he is still a little green as the Glen Johnson fight showed and if he had met Joe say last year he would of lost IMO in the same way Kessler did. i'm disapointed that the Tarver rematch as been cancelled because Dawson needs to be active as this is a good time to establish his name.

How you doing bigmark DD

[DG.]

i think Dawson has the protenial to do great things but he is still a little green as the Glen Johnson fight showed and if he had met Joe say last year he would of lost IMO in the same way Kessler did. i'm disapointed that the Tarver rematch as been cancelled because Dawson needs to be active as this is a good time to establish his name.

Sums him up, but I do not want to see him fight Malteser again.

Joe should have gone after Tarver to kick his ever loving delusional butt.

Damn, Tarver is so shit!

[Eric t]

I think he needed dawsons scalp for his career to be complete.

Dawson beat adamek and tarver, i think he's ready, calzaghe should have beat him then retired, i think he will never be respected by americans because he didn't beat a good young american fighter.

I thought about this a bit, i think dawson is the only fight left for him, it's too bad he retired, never get to see it, it is a fight he could have won.


Last edited by Eric t on Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:27 am, edited 2 times in total.

[DG.]

i think Dawson has the protenial to do great things but he is still a little green as the Glen Johnson fight showed and if he had met Joe say last year he would of lost IMO in the same way Kessler did. i'm disapointed that the Tarver rematch as been cancelled because Dawson needs to be active as this is a good time to establish his name.

How you doing bigmark DD

i good eric nice to see you made it across safely

What?

Has he just made it across the serengeti?

[Eric t]

i think Dawson has the protenial to do great things but he is still a little green as the Glen Johnson fight showed and if he had met Joe say last year he would of lost IMO in the same way Kessler did. i'm disapointed that the Tarver rematch as been cancelled because Dawson needs to be active as this is a good time to establish his name.

How you doing bigmark DD

i good eric nice to see you made it across safely

Yeah man, this place is alright, might keep posting here, i will post at dhb too, i been there for years, it feels like home.

[Phenomenal-Nutrition]

Isn't Joe kind not fighting someone who isn't 'ready' yet, he also would never dream of fighting a past prime fighter or any none top 10 overmatched type.

Dawson's arguably had a better 18months than Calzaghe by schooling Adamek and Tarver and winning a close 1 over Johnson. But in terms of being a massive draw then no he isn't ready yet sadly

[Autobarn]

Dawson;s main worry is in the chin department and that's something that Joe wouldn't really threaten.

I think Joe;s skills may be at thier highest having fought a couple of boxers back to back. It's a shame that we won't see how he matches up with Dawson.

[steve689]

I think Dawson's main problem was that he was too ready. His youth, speed and skills would have made him an extremely live and dangerous proposition and at Calzaghe's stage of his career he may not have found the motivation that last time to get "up" for someone like Dawson.

Presumably McIntyre, Jimenez, Pudwill and Salem were all "ready" though when they got their world title tilts?

[teddy007]

I think he needed dawsons scalp for his career to be complete.

Dawson beat adamek and tarver, i think he's ready, calzaghe should have beat him then retired, i think he will never be respected by americans because he didn't beat a good young american fighter.

I thought about this a bit, i think dawson is the only fight left for him, it's too bad he retired, never get to see it, it is a fight he could have won.


Last edited by Eric t on Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:27 am, edited 2 times in total.

Totlly agree with that, Calzaghe beat 1 true Prime world calss guy and that was Kessler will in my opinion will become a better fighter than Calzaghe.

[gobbles]

I think Dawson's main problem was that he was too ready. His youth, speed and skills would have made him an extremely live and dangerous proposition and at Calzaghe's stage of his career he may not have found the motivation that last time to get "up" for someone like Dawson.

Presumably McIntyre, Jimenez, Pudwill and Salem were all "ready" though when they got their world title tilts?

Because, of course, he was really looking to fight Tocker Pudwill in his farewell fight and hand-picked all of those opponents. Try adding a sensible comment rather than just spouting the same old cliches?

Perhaps we should criticise Dawson for fighting Jamie Hearn?

Far more relevant is how come Pavlik and Cotto have not been criticised for their obvious sub-standard opponents last night?

[Rocky Balboa]

If Calzaghe really did think Dawson wasn't quite ready yet then he should have fought him. I mean, Calzaghe is in the minority in thinking Chad is not ready to face him.

In my view, Calzaghe probably realised Dawson would represent a tough, tough challenge. Calzaghe, not being the hungriest fighter out there at such a late stage in his career, made the wise choice to retire.

I do not blame Joe one bit for retiring. He's achieved great success & is without doubt one of the best British fighters ever, maybe THE best, that's open to debate!

Calzaghe has retired, Dawson is the future of the LHW division.

[Phenomenal-Nutrition]

Far more relevant is how come Pavlik and Cotto have not been criticised for their obvious sub-standard opponents last night?

I'm annoyed Cotto is happy to go after Clottey/Cintron and avoid Marg/Mosley, and I'm annoyed Pavliks team are steering him to Duddy and away from Abraham and the Wlliams/Wright winner

Happy?

[Deadendgeneration]

Clottey and Cintron both pose at least some threat though. Not to mention Marg is a mute point given the ban and he already beat Mosley.

[Asterix]

Far more relevant is how come Pavlik and Cotto have not been criticised for their obvious sub-standard opponents last night?

Both were coming off losses and (I think) the opponents were mandatories.

[observer1]

I think Dawson's main problem was that he was too ready. His youth, speed and skills would have made him an extremely live and dangerous proposition and at Calzaghe's stage of his career he may not have found the motivation that last time to get "up" for someone like Dawson.

Presumably McIntyre, Jimenez, Pudwill and Salem were all "ready" though when they got their world title tilts?

Pretty much agree.

I guess Calzaghe is keen on getting someone like Michael Spinks to come out of retirement

[Autobarn]

Calzaghe does bring the criticism on himself a bit. But when he says Dawson's not ready, he means Dawson isn't a big name and won't make it a big fight. Not ready to make it big.

I agree, Pudwill, Ashira, McIntyre, Salem, Sobot were all ready. More than ready.

[Dioufy]

I don't understand, if Dawson "wasn't ready" then why not fight him? Also, I think Dawson would be ready to fight Calzaghe.

[Chambers2]

I'm trying not to moan anymore about Calzaghe now that he's retired, but he makes it a shit load harder when he comes out with this 'they're not ready' bullshit, he lives in a dream world IMO.

[Asterix]

I don't understand, if Dawson "wasn't ready" then why not fight him? Also, I think Dawson would be ready to fight Calzaghe.

It has been said above. The 'not ready' refers to financial pulling power rather than boxing ability.

[Dioufy]

I don't understand, if Dawson "wasn't ready" then why not fight him? Also, I think Dawson would be ready to fight Calzaghe.

It has been said above. The 'not ready' refers to financial pulling power rather than boxing ability.

Oh okay, although I will disagree with Joe once again. If the fight took place in America than I reckon it would do good - it has to do better than both Hopkins and the Jones PPVs? By what I have heard, the Jones one did some awful business.

[Autobarn]

Calzaghe does have a way of speaking for the opposition. It is usually "so and so isn't ready or so and so isn't good enough" rather than "I don't want to risk it I have to get my own way and prefer big money for easier outings."

[ArtOfWar]

I think Dawson's main problem was that he was too ready. His youth, speed and skills would have made him an extremely live and dangerous proposition and at Calzaghe's stage of his career he may not have found the motivation that last time to get "up" for someone like Dawson.

Presumably McIntyre, Jimenez, Pudwill and Salem were all "ready" though when they got their world title tilts?

Agreed. Dawson has some amazing speed and ability for a guy his size. He would have been a nightmare opponant for Calzaghe. Not the type of guy a 36 year old wants to be taking on.

[Dioufy]

To be fair, I have stopped listening to Calzaghe, and certainly take everything he says with a cup of salt.

"Roy Jones is shot - there's no point in fighting him. What would I gain from being the 3rd man to knock him out?"

And he couldn't even do that.