Marvin Hagler vs. Dwight Qawi

[AndreWardFan2006]

Who would have won if these two met in 1983 at 168?

[Robinson]

This would have been a cool fight.
I think Qawi would have been strong and posed alot of
troubles for hagler. I see it going the distance with good
pace, both guys taken turns at being the aggressor.

I think Hagler wins, but he leaves a lot in the ring, Qawi
right hand lead was hard hitting most the night.

Good fight.

[ringsider]

You guys are fornicating retards....Qawi was too big, too strong, and in his prime he would have killed Hagler. It is that simple.

[AndreWardFan2006]

But if Qawi came in at 168 and Hagler, who always was in shape....it could make for a good fight. I think Hagler would win to be honest.

[Collins2000]

Ringsider is the sort of guy who gives sodomy a bad name, but I can't see Hagler beating Qawi unless Dwight had to cut off one of his legs to make 168.

[Robinson]

If it was Qawi at say 175+ I see him beating hagler.
But there under, as a weight drained 168lber...the I see
Hagler winning.

Lets say Qawi uses modern PE's to help him with the low
weight..

I cant see it being a problem to get down to 168...he started
at that weight and with incentive he could cut. We arent talking
about a Holyfield build guy here. Qawi was 5'6 and milk fat solid..
thick barreled but never the leanest bully around.

[ringsider]

Ringsider is the sort of guy who gives sodomy a bad name, but I can't see Hagler beating Qawi unless Dwight had to cut off one of his legs to make 168.

Why thank you!!

[HomicideHenry]

Qawi is just too big and too strong for Hagler. I love Marvin, but he'd get knocked out in around 10 rounds.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Qawi is just too big and too strong for Hagler. I love Marvin, but he'd get knocked out in around 10 rounds.

I tend to agree, except I think Qawi would have his share of respect for the man --- ala Hagler against Duran --- & the smaller fellow would, partly because of that fact, last to the end.

Still, Qawi's too much a combo of good + big for Hagler, IMO.

[Seamus]

Qawi was stronger than most LHW's he fought. Hagler fought over 160 a few times, and judging on that, he'd get stopped in the mid rounds.

[Robinson]

I think Hagler would eek it through, I dont think Qawi would be huge against
Hagler. I think he would be damned strong and hit hard though. But maybe
so would have Hagler at LHW, CW had he gone up and not made money at
MW. Hagler stayed at 160 all his career because it was his division. Qawi
went up from LHW, CW to HW whenever he met some one better and he was
looking for that next big payday.

Qawi was exciting, vicious in the ropes and hit hard, but I think the abilities
of Hagler, his guilness and chin are good enough to win the decision.

Hearns, Duran and Leonard hit hard enough to put away LHW's and I am
confident at 168lbs Hagler would have the head armour and jaw to take
punishment as well as stay in the fight against Qawi.

[bollox]

Qawi. Too big too strong. Hagler was a middleweight, what more can you say

[Robinson]

just like Toney, Ellis and Patterson were just MW's.

[bollox]

Who all grew out of middleweight. Unlike Hagler

[Syntax Error]

I'm shocked that folk can say that Hagler would get destroyed!

Hagler had one of the finest chins of all-time & I find it hard to envisage any fighter in the 154 - 175 lb group even flooring him, let alone KOing him (& before you all start, Roldan didn't really floor Hagler).

I could see Qawi maybe outpointing him, but knocking him out would be the tallest of orders IMO.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

Who would have won if these two met in 1983 at 168?

- Qawi would've been the most likely of the period LH champs to beat for Marv.

Qawi had the hunger and style to come along at the right time against a battle worn Saad and make a name for himself, but in 83, no way he makes 168. Since they were both at peaks, fight has to happen at 174, which Qawi can still make with Marv coming in around 170.

This notion of Qawi being too big and strong is nonsense. He was strong enough to do the business but it was his difficult frentic pace and style for taller guys that combined with a cast iron chin that allowed him to outwork them. It's not like he was really stronger than Spinks or Saad. Marv would still be fresh and prime, much nearer to his stature with more reach, and more than able to keep pace with many more skills and attributes than these journeymen LHs and Saad had.

The bad style match up for Marv would've been Michael Spinks. Today, maybe Marv might be tempted to move up, but also today he'd be moving up from super welt as the goalposts have been moved since his day. I still don't think Qawi could ever compete for a title below LH as he was a fatboy trained down and those guys can only go so low before they hit the wall.

I'd give Marv the edge, but wouldn't bet a penny on the result as he'd have to work perfectly every sec of every minute for the win and Qawi cannot be dismissed out of hand against anyone.

[BoxBuzz]

.....Once in a lifetime a writer has an opportunity to put words into a sentence that have never been used in tandem in the history of mankind and simultaneously have it NOT be a work of fiction.....so here goes.

Ringsider and Collins are both correct!

Sort of like "Hand me that planet" these are words, that when seen in contiguous order on the screen, initially surprise and challenge the readers senses. However, I promise you that in this case, regardless of how startling and odd these words may seem when joined into a statement, I can assure the reader that they provide a depth of meaning containing both reason AND sensibility.

Beware....this may be a sign of the "end of days".

[observer1]

At 168, personally, Qawi would take him

[ringsider]

.....Once in a lifetime a writer has an opportunity to put words into a
sentence that have never been used in tandem in the history of mankind
and simultaneously have it NOT be a work of fiction.....so here goes.

Ringsider and Collins are both correct!

Sort
of like "Hand me that planet" these are words, that when seen in
contiguous order on the screen, initially surprise and challenge the
readers senses. However, I promise you that in this case, regardless of
how startling and odd these words may seem when joined into a
statement, I can assure the reader that they provide a depth of meaning
containing both reason AND sensibility.

Beware....this may be a sign of the "end of days".

I don't know why it is such a revelation. Qawi was just too big, and Hagler wasn't that great. He couldn't beat Ray Leonard who was a smaller man went away from him. Qawi is bigger man and going to come and get Hagler.

[Robinson]

Well it was 1983 and not 1987. So...

[Grimm]

This is an interesting matchup but yet hard to imagine.

I can't just flat out pick either or because I don't know how Hagler being strong himself would deal with the type of strength Qawi would bring.

I would lean a little more toward Hagler though because of his versatility.

[ringsider]

Blah, blah Blah...........

I would lean a little more toward Hagler though because of his versatility.

What are you joking?.....when did Hagler become versatile?

[Grimm]

Blah, blah Blah...........

I would lean a little more toward Hagler though because of his versatility.

What are you joking?.....when did Hagler become versatile?

A little before you were born.

[ringsider]

Blah, blah Blah...........

I would lean a little more toward Hagler though because of his versatility.

What are you joking?.....when did Hagler become versatile?

A little before you were born.

Sadly I saw Hagler's whole career........and versatile is not a word that comes to mind in describing him.....by anyone.

[bollox]

Still on the anti Hagler thing huh? I reckon Qawi would beat him at any weight above 160 but P4P as a fighter Hagler leaves Qawi in his wake