Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Here I am introducing Connie
One word sums up this shot: pride.
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Regarding Marquez v Diaz last night. Can you say, WOW!? What a great fight. We don't seem to get them like this anymore. I'm unashamed to say that I picked Diaz to win this one. I thought the young lion would have been too much for the veteran, especially since Marquez had only one fight at 135 before this and Diaz thrives on trench warfare. but the old dude proved his mettle once more and began zeroing in on Diaz' body and jaw with brutal efficiency. Just a tremendous fight.

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Bennie, Randy, thanks for your kind words... :TU:
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bennie wrote:
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Here I am introducing Connie
One word sums up this shot: pride.
Yes, Bennie, pride in Connie.... :bow: :TU:
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scartissue wrote:Regarding Marquez v Diaz last night. Can you say, WOW!? What a great fight. We don't seem to get them like this anymore. I'm unashamed to say that I picked Diaz to win this one. I thought the young lion would have been too much for the veteran, especially since Marquez had only one fight at 135 before this and Diaz thrives on trench warfare. but the old dude proved his mettle once more and began zeroing in on Diaz' body and jaw with brutal efficiency. Just a tremendous fight.

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Dan,

the Marquez/Diaz fight was a great fight, it seem like when either of the Marquez's fight we get a great fight, I'm not to hot about today's fighters but, either of the Marquez's could hold their own imo with any of the fighters of the past, in their weight class of course.
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Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz (TK0 9)

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bennie wrote:
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Here I am introducing Connie
One word sums up this shot: pride.
........and rightfully so.
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kikibalt wrote:
scartissue wrote:Regarding Marquez v Diaz last night. Can you say, WOW!? What a great fight. We don't seem to get them like this anymore. I'm unashamed to say that I picked Diaz to win this one. I thought the young lion would have been too much for the veteran, especially since Marquez had only one fight at 135 before this and Diaz thrives on trench warfare. but the old dude proved his mettle once more and began zeroing in on Diaz' body and jaw with brutal efficiency. Just a tremendous fight.

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Dan,

the Marquez/Diaz fight was a great fight, it seem like when either of the Marquez's fight we get a great fight, I'm not to hot about today's fighters but, either of the Marquez's could hold their own imo with any of the fighters of the past, in their weight class of course.
Frank, Dan, This was a throwback fight. You're right Frank both of the Marquez brothers would be able to hold their own. That's saying a lot.

What do you guys think about Marquez calling out Floyd Jr.?

Randy :box:
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kikibalt wrote:Bennie, Randy, thanks for your kind words... :TU:
:box: :TU: :bow: :box: :TU: :bow:
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Chris John vs Rocky Juarez (Draw 12)
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Oscar De La Hoya redeemed himself last night (as a promoter) after putting on a few flops, most notably the undercard of his fight with Manny Pacquiao (as well as his own fight that night). The fight between Chris John and Rocky Juarez was, by itself, a great fight but coupled with the Marquez-Diaz fight it was a fight fans dream.

John and Juarez battled to a 12 round draw. A draw in my opinion was the best that Juarez could have hoped for. It was definitely a close fight but I thought Chris John pulled out a victory.
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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
scartissue wrote:Regarding Marquez v Diaz last night. Can you say, WOW!? What a great fight. We don't seem to get them like this anymore. I'm unashamed to say that I picked Diaz to win this one. I thought the young lion would have been too much for the veteran, especially since Marquez had only one fight at 135 before this and Diaz thrives on trench warfare. but the old dude proved his mettle once more and began zeroing in on Diaz' body and jaw with brutal efficiency. Just a tremendous fight.

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Dan,

the Marquez/Diaz fight was a great fight, it seem like when either of the Marquez's fight we get a great fight, I'm not to hot about today's fighters but, either of the Marquez's could hold their own imo with any of the fighters of the past, in their weight class of course.
Frank, Dan, This was a throwback fight. You're right Frank both of the Marquez brothers would be able to hold their own. That's saying a lot.

What do you guys think about Marquez calling out Floyd Jr.?

Randy :box:
Re-watching the fight right now.
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Randyman wrote:Chris John vs Rocky Juarez (Draw 12)
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Oscar De La Hoya redeemed himself last (as a promoter) after putting on a few flops, most notably the undercard of his fight with Manny Pacquiao (as well as his own fight that night). The fight between Chris John and Rocky Juarez was, by itself, a great fight but coupled with the Marquez-Diaz fight it was a fight fans dream.

John and Diaz battled to a 12 round draw. A draw in my opinion was the best that Juarez could have hoped for. It was definitely a close fight but I thought Chris John pulled out a victory.
I agree with you, Randy, on the John/Juarez fight, I too thought John had won a close fight.
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kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:Chris John vs Rocky Juarez (Draw 12)
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Oscar De La Hoya redeemed himself last (as a promoter) after putting on a few flops, most notably the undercard of his fight with Manny Pacquiao (as well as his own fight that night). The fight between Chris John and Rocky Juarez was, by itself, a great fight but coupled with the Marquez-Diaz fight it was a fight fans dream.

John and Diaz battled to a 12 round draw. A draw in my opinion was the best that Juarez could have hoped for. It was definitely a close fight but I thought Chris John pulled out a victory.
I agree with you, Randy, on the John/Juarez fight, I too thought John had won a close fight.
Oops! That should have read John and Juarez.
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A great weekend for boxing here, too. Belfast's Martin Rogan, the man I once compared to Chris Arreola in that he is white, tough, game but essentially limited, gave a brutal performance to stop former world title challenger Matt Skelton in 11 thrilling rounds on Saturday night.
Rogan has the tough guy confidence of a Bobby Halpern and he simply walked into the burly Skelton and kept punching until Skelton could take no more. The rugged, genial Irishman has now gatecrashed the world heavyweight rankings, where Skelton was ranked, and is definitely one to watch over the next six months or so. Dare I say this, he reminds me a little of Jerry Quarry.
He has the hunger.

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bennie wrote:A great weekend for boxing here, too. Belfast's Martin Rogan, the man I once compared to Chris Arreola in that he is white, tough, game but essentially limited, gave a brutal performance to stop former world title challenger Matt Skelton in 11 thrilling rounds on Saturday night.
Rogan has the tough guy confidence of a Bobby Halpern and he simply walked into the burly Skelton and kept punching until Skelton could take no more. The rugged, genial Irishman has now gatecrashed the world heavyweight rankings, where Skelton was ranked, and is definitely one to watch over the next six months or so. Dare I say this, he reminds me a little of Jerry Quarry.
He has the hunger.

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I have yet to see him fight, Bennie but if you are comparing him to Jerry Quarry he must have the goods. He certainly looks the part. We definitely need some fresh talent in what has to be the most stagnant and mediocre heavyweight era of all time.

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Randyman wrote:
bennie wrote:A great weekend for boxing here, too. Belfast's Martin Rogan, the man I once compared to Chris Arreola in that he is white, tough, game but essentially limited, gave a brutal performance to stop former world title challenger Matt Skelton in 11 thrilling rounds on Saturday night.
Rogan has the tough guy confidence of a Bobby Halpern and he simply walked into the burly Skelton and kept punching until Skelton could take no more. The rugged, genial Irishman has now gatecrashed the world heavyweight rankings, where Skelton was ranked, and is definitely one to watch over the next six months or so. Dare I say this, he reminds me a little of Jerry Quarry.
He has the hunger.

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I have yet to see him fight, Bennie but if you are comparing him to Jerry Quarry he must have the goods. He certainly looks the part. We definitely need some fresh talent in what has to be the most stagnant and mediocre heavyweight era of all time.

Randy :TU:
I'm not comparing him to Jerry in terms of talent, Randy (more, Bobby Halpern) but he is as hard as nails and has now licked Audley Harrison and Skelton in back-to-back thrillers and looks set for a 'big' fight in his home city of Belfast, a big fight he deserves.
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Rockys first post back at cyberzone since the shooting.

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First of all Fellahs I am embarrassed to have to be the point of well wishes because of some bad luck that has come my way. For someone who wishes to only live the quiet life and tries to be live by a code of manly polite behaviour, well sometimes I just cant figure it. Because so many decent men on this board, led by my dear brothers Ronnie, Danny and Bucket have shown heart and concern I will explain what happened to me.

I was fast into a deep sleep when at four thirty am in the pitch black of my flat I felt like someone was slamming a shovel into the back of my head over and over. I didn't know If I was dreaming or what. I turned around in a quick motion to see a white male dressed in black sticking a gun into my back and pulling the trigger over and over. It was like a surreal drama and it took a spilt second for things to register. At first I thought it was the police (who I have had bad dealings with in the past) and I wondered what the hell was going on. Then quickly I realized I was being executed. Anger came into me and I wheeling and spun out of my bed onto the floor, swearing and determined to get to my attacker. It was a cold night and I had three comforters on me. Well as I spun to the floor to attack, I got caught up and twisted into the comforters! As I did this the man backed out of the room and shot three more times. He never hit me. I got loose of the comforters and crawled on my hands and knees at my attacker. I could hear him trying to reload a clip and I told him I was gonna finish him if I reached him. It was pitch black and I could barely see him, but I think I got about ten feet from him and the cowardly bastard ran away through the back door he came in! That left me alone in the dark, as I heard him run away. I just couldn't get to my feet quick enough to run after him. As it turns out there was a good reason why.

I live in a upper flat and my back door leads to a stair that goes to a basement that has to be travelled across to get to a lower flat where four people live. The attacker came in through that flat and went the route I mentioned to get to my back door. I never leave that door opened, but on this day I did because the girl who lives downstairs asked if she could use my phone so I let her and told her to just leave the phone in my door which I left open for her. That was my undoing. Either because I wouldn't return her love advances or for the sake of robbery that I didn't cooperate in by dying she let in the hitman to murder me. I will speak no more on the subject other than to say I had the grand total of $120 in my flat. Things are happening to square the account and punish the guilty.

I picked my self up and somehow walked down the two flights of stairs to get to the other flat and get my phone and get some help. As it turned out I was starting to die the moment I was shot. I was hit with 6 22 cal bullets in the back. My muscle quality in the back did not allow five of the bullets to go all the way in and they stuck out with the bottoms of them easily seen and picked out. Had any of those bullets got through, I would be dead or paralysed. I was very lucky. The sixth one was in my side, got through, severed my colon and of course poison and infection was running wild in me.

The doctors told me I was in need of immediate trauma surgery and blood transfusion. I refused. I figured it was my time. I thought of Clev Williams and what he went through, the hospital time, the weight loss, etc. I just gave up. Then my cousin came in with some police and they told me that under Michigan law a gunshot victim who has been brought by a ambulance has no choice and they have to operate to save his life. I gave in knowing what it would mean, but I refused any blood. Well I don't remember anything else but waking up. The bullet had broken two ribs, and pieced my colon. They cut off 13 cm and reattached it. But I had two gigantic abscesses of infection. In Clev Williams days it meant more and more surgery's. But I was lucky. Today's modern tech saved me. Using a cat scan they are able to put a hole in me, attach a bag, locate the abscess and drain it with out surgery. If it works. It did for me. Thank The Good Lord.

Still my blood was low, my temp bad and I needed transfusion. I again refused. I didn't want anybodies else's blood. I wanted to build back my own. It was a gamble. So here I am, on my back, tube up my nose, IV in both arms, two holes in my sides draining poison, with a huge 8 inch open gash on my stomach, destroying my abdominal muscles. Yes i was in intense pain, but who was there to fight? My attacker ran. I couldn't avenge myself. If I took the drugs to ease the pain I would have been totally defeated. A burden on others and on drugs. I have never taken any drugs in my life nor have I had a drink since fifteen years old. I had to have something to fight, a victory of sorts to have a foundation for a comeback. I chose to fight the pain. I was almost four weeks on my back fighting the pain. In that time I slept maybe three or four hours. When I talked to Ronnie and Bucket the first times I could hardly talk for the pain. But finally the sacks are out of me, the pain is mostly gone, and the huge cut is healing at a rapid rate. My vital signs are perfect and I can now walk anywhere I want and can even move around pretty damm good.

I have lost my rock hard two fifteen and only weigh 178. I went from Muhammad Ali to Joe Calzaghe! But I cant wait to heal and maybe work out again. Ronnie is the expert and he tells me to WAIT AND HEAL. I gotta listen to him. No rushing it. Don't want a hernia.
During the surgery I developed a small blood clot on my lung, so I am on a blood thinner for three months to clear that up. Other wise I am getting better at a rapid rate and eating my fruits and picking up strength. After seeing car accident victims, gunshot victims, men at arms dragged into war and maimed, and the poor children who through no fault of their own live in pain and most times don't make it. (I was on the trauma floor for almost a month and saw a lot) Of course I feel grateful, don't complain and pray for those not as lucky. What happened to me was nothing when compared to others better than me and more deserving of a break. Life is hard to figure. It certainly isn't fair. So fellahs I took six in the back from a coward. Not as many as Cole Younger but I'm in the rankings.

It gives me a great appreciation of what Clev Williams went through to come back and compete in a era when medical science was not what it is now. Much is said of Ali's performance that night, but its Williams appearance in that ring and his career after that shooting that should be talked about. Amazing man and my inspiration to come back to my former strength and body. Thank you for all the support. I am touched and grateful. Nothing better in the world than men feeling for other men within a code of honour and decent behaviour. I am again grateful and say thank you. Ronnie, Danny and Bucket especially. My hearts blood to you. Again thank you fellahs. I am getting stronger and hope to post more often as therapy and am glad to be back. Your brother Rocky
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Frankie (and Connie) is looking great.
Southern Cal boxing's best looking family :TU:

-Rick
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Randyman wrote:Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz (TK0 9)

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To the great Juan Manuel Marquez . . . :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

Last night we saw the difference between very good, and great. :TU:

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Rick Farris wrote:
Randyman wrote:Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz (TK0 9)

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To the great Juan Manuel Marquez . . . :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

Last night we saw the difference between very good, and great. :TU:

-Rick Farris
Rick, I'm still in awe over this fight. We just don't get 'em like this anymore. Totally agree with you and Frank. The Marquez brothers could have made their mark in any era. As a guy who had Juan Manuel winning both fights against Pacquiao, I hated to pick against him, but it seemed insurmountable. But I don't mind saying, Damn! What a performance!

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