tommy morrison

Ridiculous_Ray · Post by **Ridiculous_Ray** » 17 Apr 2002, 00:57

well maybe not quite an old timer but he dosnt box anymore so he fits in this category

i was watching good ol PTI today and wilbon or kornboy mentioned tommy morriosn, they said he is gonna be in a movie or something like that.

when did he get out of jail is what i want to know lol

cybox · Post by **cybox** » 17 Apr 2002, 01:11

it said he was playing the role of a police officer who hunts down Zombies in an independent film called "Zombiegeddon".....maybe he's Officer Thomas Gunn.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 17 Apr 2002, 07:12

there was a really intersting interview with him on fight news not long ago dont know if it can still be found but its well worth checking out.

hes out of prison, he has a wife and kids and theres even a picture of hium today, he looks a lot older.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 21 Apr 2002, 20:26

As you all know, the big knock on TOMMY MORRISON was that he couldnt take a punch. The record, on the surface, would seem to bear this out. Looking closer, though, you might just get a slightly differant picture. MORRISON challenged RAY MERCER for the WBO title in '91 when both were undefeated. For the first 3 rds E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G went MORRISONS way. He landed all but at will on MERCER. MORRISON had faster hands, a greater variety of punches and he even bulled MERCER in the corners, spinning him around on the ropes suggesting that maybe he was stronger than MERCER. However, after 3rds of landing his best shots against a man noted for taking tremendous punishment, he should have backed off even if only a little and began to exercise more caution. In the 4th round he came out as he had before and, just at the end of the round, MERCER landed a solid right hand that put MORRISON out on his feet. MORRISON comes out for the 5th on auto pilot and MERCER lands 14 unanswered punches to MORRISON's head and down he goes in a heap totally separated from his senses.
In his next big test MORRISON goes the full 12 with FOREMAN, taking GEORGES best shots while fighting smart, and the result is the WBO Heavyweight Title.
What does he do then? He fights MICHAEL BENTT, never mind the farce with TOMASHEK, and he is on his way to a chrushing victory over a fighter who is in no way in MORRISON's league when he gets caught full force by a counter right thrown over a left to BENTTS body and "BOOM", down he goes 3 times for a brutal 1st round defeat. LENNOX LEWIS provides the final defeat of MORRISONS career but has to bulldoze his way over MORRISON in 6rds to do it. The difference? When MORRISON threw caution to the wind and left himself vulnerable he got caught and when he got caught he didnt know what to do. When he fought smart, as in the fight with FOREMAN, MORRISON got hit with some thunderous shots but MORRISON weathered them and the fights with MERCER and BENTT showed that MORRISON could be had by one punch. As for LEWIS, MORRISON was never going to beat him unless he got real lucky becuase, and I have alluded to this in a previous posting, LEWIS has the same problem. He got sloppy against McCALL and RACHMAN and, under those conditions, when he gets caught LEWIS doesnt know what to do either. LEWIS, however, learned to fight cautiuosly even to the point of being a bore. TOMMY MORRISON is the best example I know of immense talent and legitimate punching power being far in excess of overall ring smarts and yet he showed against FOREMAN that he could fight smart if he wanted to. His most impressive victory though had to be when he was getting pasted by DONOVAN RUDDOCK and MORRISON, after taking a relentless pounding by the "RAZOR", explodes in the 6th round and puts RUDDOCK's career down to journeyman status. Nobody ever accused RUDDOCK of carrying soft leather. Go figure. Dan Coli

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 22 Apr 2002, 07:09

Some of Morrison's problem was his tendency to party instead of train. When he fought Foreman, he trained in Lexington, Va. at V.M.I. Training there was supposed to keep him from going out partying. About 10 days before the Foreman fight, he was seen at a Holiday Inn lounge in Roanoke at closing time. Most fighters do like to party, but the ones who stay focused have better careers.

Homicide Henry · Post by **Homicide Henry** » 28 Oct 2002, 14:28

He, in my personal opinion, was a better toughman champion than pro fighter. He's got AID's now, thats why he quit boxing. Any way even if he wouldnt have retired, even if he didnt have AID's and if Tex Cobb wouldnt have had that write up in Sports Illustrated that falsely accussed him of cocaine usage...Cobb would have knocked out Morrison and been the champion.

-PEACE-!

Dancin' Dan · Post by **Dancin' Dan** » 29 Oct 2002, 02:04

Slow punch taker Cobb would have beaten Morrison??? Please. Toughman contest winner? Morrison was very well trained however as said before he was certainly his own worst enemy. Hardly a toughman contest type fighter, they don't fight Mercer, Foreman, Lewis, Ruddock, C Williams, etc.

zojo,, · Post by **zojo,,** » 29 Oct 2002, 21:12

How much was his power due to training and how much was due to steroids? Tommy himself has said that he believes his HIV (not AIDS) came from sharing needles from using steroids.

I don't want to play what if...but I do think he could have hung around the top 15 for a very long time had he not contracted the illness.

6 Pack · Post by **6 Pack** » 29 Oct 2002, 21:13

Morrison had heart, a big punch, good size, and was white...but he had no chin. No way you can cover that up. Morrison has been to the canvas so many times he collected frequent flyers miles. Before he fought Lewis HBO went threw all the times Morrison hit the canvas and it was something crazy like 14 times! Lewis added another four knockdowns in a blow out bout.

As for his win over a semi-retired Razor Ruddock. Razor had fought only once in 2 and a half years and weighed a career high. He still almost KOed Morrison. A prime Razor would have finished him easy. Razor went back into retirement, then came back and went 10-0, and retired again.

Morrison's win over George Foreman is considered by most as his best win and for good reason. Firstly Foreman was a legit top ten fighter at the time who would win the title in his next fight by KO. Razor was semi-retired and not legit contender by any means by when he fought Morrison.

The fact Morrison stayed to the game plan and got by with out getting KOed is a modern day miracle. The fight was close, but Morrison showed he did have boxing skills. The fact he went the distance with Foreman aside, he had no chin.

If he had Mercer's chin he could have made it further, not champ, but up there. His training often lacked though. He ran out of gas some times. Hsi chin made every fight a life and death struggle. He was a top ten guy for a while though I will give you that.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 29 Oct 2002, 23:05

Morrison is currently writing a book and is also looking to restart his acting career.

WhiteShadow

Tommy Gunn · Post by **Tommy Gunn** » 19 Dec 2002, 13:09

for those who want's to know more about Tommy his website is
http://www.tommymorrison.com

He is doing fine, living in Sparta Tennessee.
Has a wife name Dawn, and 3 kids.

His wife is going to get pregnant again, there is a cleaning process method that doctors could clean up the hiv virus in the sperm, so Dawn could have the baby without worrying of getting infected either her and the kid.

Tommy has a Knockout foundation, and you can buy a lot of TOmmy's memobilia online. And the money will be for helping to raise the foundation.

Tommy is writing a book, and he is looking for a publisher, they are working on that.

Marcellus · Post by **Marcellus** » 26 Dec 2002, 16:35

Morrison had not chin. Not that many good white heavies. Ironic that here was one in terms of skills, but no chin. Lewis does not have a good chin, but Morrison had the glass jaw. Otherwise, top level skills.

Very good hand speed and good footwork.

zurdo · Post by **zurdo** » 27 Dec 2002, 03:01

I'd have to say that as a fighter Tommy was a cut above other "white hope types" like Gerry Cooney and Duane Bobick. People tend to lump him in with those guys...I think thats unfair
Cooney and Bobick fell apart when they stepped up their competition..Once they met defeat for the first time their confidence was shattered
they never came close to beating any legitimate contenders

Tommy lost to Mercer in his first major fight. But then came back to score wins over tough opponents AFTER being whacked by Merciless
...Foreman, Joe Hipp, Carl the Truth, Razor Ruddock..
because of these he showed he was a real fighter ...not just some hype with an overinflated record
Morrison was at least as good as some of the guys who won alphabet championships in those years.
He was a good solid contender whose inability to take a shot, heart and punch usually made for exciting fights.
...In a Morrison fight you could count on somebody hitting the canvas...hard

Tommy Gunn · Post by **Tommy Gunn** » 02 Jan 2003, 14:38

zurdo, I agree with you, for sure
even though tommy to me had everything to be the greatest, and a lot of people will desagree with me on that, and I understand and respect their desition. But I can't help it, Tommy is my favorite boxer. :)

ps- Tommy was suppost to get tyson, instead of Peter Mcneeley. Fought never took place, because they knew tyson would lose, when he came back out of prison. That would be one of the most exiting fights of the 90's!

6 Pack · Post by **6 Pack** » 05 Jan 2003, 16:15

I laughed out loud when I read you post Morrison would KO Mike Tyson.

THanks, I really needed a good one like that to put a smile on my face and brighten my day.

P.S. by the way, you were joking right

zurdo · Post by **zurdo** » 05 Jan 2003, 16:42

Mike Tyson was very overrated...especially the post prison Tyson..

Tommy Morrison was somewhat underrated...

Tyson was dominated and lost by knockout to a less accomplished fighter than Tommy Morrison in James "Buster Douglas....

It's unlikely that Tommy would Ko 1995-97 Tyson
...But I don't think it's totally laughable

6 Pack · Post by **6 Pack** » 05 Jan 2003, 17:07

Douglas a less accomplished fighter than Morrison. I guess that is your opinion, but I think Buster was a hell of a lot better.

Douglas had a great jab, size (6'4", 230 pounds), decent pop in his punches, and was well schooled.

He beat among others Oliver McCall, Tex Cobb, Greg Page, and ofcourse KOed Mike Tyson. No question Douglas was a more accomplished fighter in the end...he was the true heavyweight champion of the world. But I think even the pre-tyson-win Douglas was more accomplished.

I think he did loads more than Morrison. Sure, an upset can happen. ANy one in the top ten can beat the champ on the right night.

But this TOmmy Gunn character is not talking about some freak upset were Morrison catches Tyson on his worst day. He is talking about Morrison stylistically should KO Tyson. Like if they fought 10 times, Morrison wins 8!

A guy with Morrison's chin is not going to beat Tyson. Morrison got hit too much, and had too weak a chin to be able to beat TYson. Man, he was blown out in one round by Bentt!

Tyson was too fast, hit way to hard, and had rock solid chin. Morrison would have little hope.

zurdo · Post by **zurdo** » 05 Jan 2003, 18:28

Buster only beat one world class fighter who was in his prime..that was Mike Tyson...aside from that..
Oliver McCall was a clubfighteter/sparring partner/opponent type..at the time...He had'nt yet achieved world class status
Tex Cobb, Greg Page andTrevor Berbick were past their primes..

I would say it was ridiculous if we were talking about the 1988 Tyson..The guy was very beatable after he got out of Jail

JDGAFFLIN · Post by **JDGAFFLIN** » 05 Jan 2003, 23:47

Theres a decent piece on him in the "Where Are They Now?" section over at http://www.hbo.com/boxing

tommy morrison

Tommy Morrison: Better Toughman Champ than WBO Champion

TOmmy

Zurdo