Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Tony Baltazar vs Chucho De La Cruz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9t5TqRPS68

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Eder Jofre vs Jose Medel I & II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySddl_oyrdk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGp7QXPjYUc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv0vrg6tSSs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MEBNiN2yJQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdP0_omKFy0

[Randyman]

Kid Chocolate

By Diego

An idea . . .

If you take the boxing related art that Roger has shared here. Put most of it on display in a room full of Hall of Famer's, boxing enthusiasts, collectors, fans, boxer "groupies" (yeah, they exist) . . . I think the result would be a great Exhibition, to say the least.

-Rick Farris

Rick, I've got most of Rog's work here http://rogerestygallery.blogspot.com/ I have to download a few more but almost all the work that Rog has shown us is on this site.

Randy

[dagosd2000]

WIFREDO GOMEZ

Roger Esty . . . "El Pintor De Los Campeons"

Thanks for the kind words Rick. Funny,now that I can see,I hope I can keep my focus. You see being blind in one eye made me look inside myself more. For me that's scary, but very rich. Now that I want to see everything in front of me that I couldn't see before,I hope life doesn't become superficial. When I close my eyes to go to sleep,maybe my dreams will keep that nuance ,that delicacy of life I can't see with 20/20 vision.

[Randyman]

Frank
Rick will come back and think, i go away for a couple of days and the FXXXXXG thread goes to bits. Shall we ban him

I haven't gone anywhere, I'm always in touch with this thread.
And this thread is leading to something I will not speak of at the moment.
But it's something good, real good. Good for all of us who have built this thread.
More will be revealed in the future.

Aside from that . . .

As Chairman of the World Boxing Hall of Fame Selection Commitee, I believe that every regular poster on this thread, should have a say in who gets inducted into the World Boxing Hall of Fame. You know who you are, the ones who I named to receive a disc of the "first year" of the Classic American West Coast Boxing. Armando Muniz and I will include the names of Frank Baltazar & Tom Ray on the WBHOF "Selection Commitee". I know that at least one of you are already are on the Selection Commitee. As a commitee member, we send you a ballot and you'll be able to vote for your favorites. This also gives you the right to submit your own choices for nomination in future WBHOF inductions. Bennie would give the U.K. another voice, and there is Roger, Randy, Pug, and Bruce.

This gives YOU a voice, and a vote. We are not passing out memberships, you are the only new selection commitee members that will be added this year- Our Boxrec "regulars". My E-Mail is: [email protected]

Just E-mail me if you want to be a member of the "new" World Boxing Hall of Fame Selection Commitee

The collective knowledge of this thread is educating the boxing community, your experience is needed in determining which boxers are to be immortalized.

-Rick Farris

Rick, I would be honored to cast my vote for the WBHF!! Thank you my friend for including me.

Randy

[Randyman]

WIFREDO GOMEZ

Roger Esty . . . "El Pintor De Los Campeons"

Thanks for the kind words Rick. Funny,now that I can see,I hope I can keep my focus. You see being blind in one eye made me look inside myself more. For me that's scary, but very rich. Now that I want to see everything in front of me that I couldn't see before,I hope life doesn't become superficial. When I close my eyes to go to sleep,maybe my dreams will keep that nuance ,that delicacy of life I can't see with 20/20 vision.

Rog, your vision, your art and your words are from a 20/20 vision that comes from the heart. It's pure. I see great things for you in the future.

Randy

[dagosd2000]

Eder Jofre vs Jose Medel I & II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySddl_oyrdk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv0vrg6tSSs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MEBNiN2yJQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdP0_omKFy0

Frank
That's great stuff. Jofre and Medel are always interestung to watch. Too bad there's not more of them on tape. Just a sidelight. I always liked the way Medel wore his hair. Gaspar Oqtega had the same haircut. I tried to have the barber cut my hair like that when I was a kid. Never came out right. Mayba i didn't have any Indian blood in me that's why.

Rick
You say you're going to go to Brazil with Monica to do a documentary on Eder Jofre. Your the guy that understands what this guy was like in the ring. He was ,perhaps,the best small fighter who ever lived. He demolished some great fighters. He never had a downward turn like a Duran or a Pep or an Olivares. He came out of retirement to win a Feather Title. You're the guy that can open this guy up to the younger generation of boxing fans who don't know about him.

Poor Joe Medel. He had to come along when Eder was the Champ,or Joe could have held that crown for a while.

[Rick Farris]

Eder Jofre vs Jose Medel I & II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySddl_oyrdk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv0vrg6tSSs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MEBNiN2yJQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdP0_omKFy0

I always enjoy watching Jofre, and the same for Jose Medel. In late 1965, I saw Medel outpoint Jesus Pimentel at the Sports Arena. Medel was down once, Pimentel hit the deck twice. It was the first of two times I saw him fight live. The second was three years later, when he lost to Lionel Rose in a non-title fight.

-Rick Farris

[dagosd2000]

Rog, your vision, your art and your words are from a 20/20 vision that comes from the heart. It's pure. I see great things for you in the future.

Randy [/quote]

Randy
With guys like you and the others on the thread offering encouragement,I couldn't have better cornermen. Thanks Rog

[Randyman]

Rog, your vision, your art and your words are from a 20/20 vision that comes from the heart. It's pure. I see great things for you in the future.

Randy

Randy
With guys like you and the others on the thread offering encouragement,I couldn't have better cornermen. Thanks Rog [/quote]

Rog, I want to be able to say I knew you when.........

No joking Rog, You're the real deal. I wouldn't say it otherwise.

Randy

[Randyman]

Tony Baltazar vs Chucho De La Cruz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9t5TqRPS68

Frank, Tony is like Shane Mosley in that he puts everything behind that left hook. Tony the Tiger was also a Bull. Thanks for sharing.

Randy

[dagosd2000]

Fighting Harada vs Jose Medel I, (highlights)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boKUUztbrfc

Hey Frank
When I thanked you for posting that for me,I didn't look first. That's Jofre fighting Medel. No harm,no foul. Thanks anyway. It's the thought that counts

[Randyman]

Guys I just heard some incredibly bad news. 4 months after Kevin Finnegan passed away, his brother Chris just passed. Bennie, Danny, Boxbuzz, can you guys give us more info?

Scartissue

Sorry to hear about that Dan. my condolences to the family.

Randy

[Rick Farris]

Eder Jofre vs Jose Medel I & II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySddl_oyrdk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv0vrg6tSSs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MEBNiN2yJQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdP0_omKFy0

Frank
That's great stuff. Jofre and Medel are always interestung to watch. Too bad there's not more of them on tape. Just a sidelight. I always liked the way Medel wore his hair. Gaspar Oqtega had the same haircut. I tried to have the barber cut my hair like that when I was a kid. Never came out right. Mayba i didn't have any Indian blood in me that's why.

Rick
You say you're going to go to Brazil with Monica to do a documentary on Eder Jofre. Your the guy that understands what this guy was like in the ring. He was ,perhaps,the best small fighter who ever lived. He demolished some great fighters. He never had a downward turn like a Duran or a Pep or an Olivares. He came out of retirement to win a Feather Title. You're the guy that can open this guy up to the younger generation of boxing fans who don't know about him.

Poor Joe Medel. He had to come along when Eder was the Champ,or Joe could have held that crown for a while.

Thanks, Roger. I'll do my best with Jofre, when the time comes. I'll prepare myself long before I meet the man. This is somebody I truly respect. You made clear what he was as a professional boxer, but he would evolve into a political career, as Mayor of Sao Paulo, Brazil. Monica was from the state of Bahia, on the north-east coast, however she lived a year in Sao Paolo. She didn't know Jofre from boxing or was aware of who he was, aside from the Mayor of Sao Paolo. Monica's father had been Mayor of a small town in Bahia, Terra Nova.

As for Medel, you said it all. He came up in the era of Eder Jofre. Your point relating to Duran, Pep & Olivares is also very true. Jofre was just . . . smarter? How else can we see it? We all make choices, seems Eder Jofre made the right ones.

-Rick Farris

[dagosd2000]

Guys I just heard some incredibly bad news. 4 months after Kevin Finnegan passed away, his brother Chris just passed. Bennie, Danny, Boxbuzz, can you guys give us more info?

Scartissue

Sorry to hear about that Dan. my condolences to the family.

Randy

BROTHERS

I never had a brother. I was the only son and the oldest child in an Italian family. I was always treated special. My sisters came second. Not that they weren't loved by my parents,but they were girls. Nothing great was ever expected of them. Greatness was not an ambition for an Italian girl. My mother always gave in to me. Sometimes I think Latin women are closer to their boys than to their husbands. The boys are always seen by their mothers as children stiil. Innocent until that girl comes around and steals him from his mother. Lots of stories on that theme.

Last time I heard, Finnegan ain't a Latin name. But Chris Finnegan had a brother. Lucky guy in my opinion. Forget the race card on the brother thing.It doesn't make a difference. I wish I had an older brother. Yeh,older. I'd either want to out do him, or he'd set the groundwork for me. Be a mentor. Be my best pal.

Maybe that's all conjecture. I never had a brother. The Finnegan brothers. The Quarrys. The Zivics. Jake's brother Joey in his corner. Maybe when Kevin passed,Chris lost his cornerman. His best friend. Maybe that's why he passed four months later.

Maybe that's just conjecture. I never had a brother.

[Bobbin & Weavin]

Guys, any of you remember Lou Blades?

Lou Blades

Country USA
Global Id 63087
Division Welterweight


Career Record © http://www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1973-06-28 Andy Price Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6
1972-09-20 Rudy Cruz Fresno, USA L PTS 6
1972-07-10 Rosario Zavala Inglewood, USA W PTS 6
1971-10-07 Dave Oropeza Los Angeles, USA L PTS 10
1971-06-26 Jorge Rodriguez Long Beach, USA W PTS 6
1971-05-20 Marcos Geraldo Los Angeles, USA W KO 3
1971-02-25 Manuel Leal Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1971-02-04 Beto Gonzalez Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1970-10-22 Eltefat Talebi Los Angeles, USA L PTS 5
1970-09-25 Frank Bueno San Diego, USA W KO 2
1970-09-10 Pablo Rueda Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1970-08-20 Larry Son Los Angeles, USA W KO 2
1970-07-29 David Arellano Las Vegas, USA W PTS 6
1970-07-17 Ricardo Alcarez San Diego, USA W KO 1
1970-06-18 Anselmo Martinez Los Angeles, USA W KO 4

Record to Date
Won 11 (KOs 6) Lost 4 Drawn 0 Total 15

Frank . . . I fought the night of Lou's fourth pro fight, at the Olympic. I remember his career was going pretty good until he fought a very awkward Eltifat Telabi. I remember that Talebi was from Eastern Europe and would overwhelm a lot of boxers with his strength, and lots of blows coming in from every angle. Telabi wasn't great, but Lou didn't know how to deal with the guy and dropped a decision. I lost of track of him after that, and seeing his final record is appreciated.

I can picture Lou Blades perfectly . . . Blue trucks, white shoes, stand up style, good jab, stiff straight puncher, not afraid to mix it up. If he had a guy hurt, he'd jump on them and try to end things early.

-Rick Farris

Rick,
Funny I see you mention Eltefat Telabi, you have an amazing memory! Eltefat was an Iranian who won the Golden Gloves in San Francisco in 1970 along with Ray Lunny III, Jesse Valdez USAF, who later won a sliver in the Olympics, Pete Ranzany, Lloyd Marshall Jr., and Nasser (Nick) Aghi who was Eltefat's cousin. The two cousins were apparently wrestlers at one time and when you described Talebi as awkward you were being polite, strong he was but didn't have much luck in the pros.
Bruce

[Bobbin & Weavin]

Back row, Monroe Ratliff, Howard Smith & Charlie Powell. Front row, Bill Young, Joey Olmos, Danny Valdivia, Larry Montalvo & I. Ratliff, Smith, Powell, Young, Montalvo and I were presented with the "Joe Louis Humanization Award" by Olmos and Valdivia at the "Women Behind The Boxer Award" luncheon, it was a surprise to say the least for me.

Looking good Frank. It's a well deserved honor.

Randy

A wonderfully deserved honour, Frankie, particularly as we all know you are a great admirer of the legendary Brown Bomber.

Congrats Frank! I think Mr. Louis pulled some strings to get you the award!
Bruce

[Bobbin & Weavin]

Frank
Rick will come back and think, i go away for a couple of days and the FXXXXXG thread goes to bits. Shall we ban him

I haven't gone anywhere, I'm always in touch with this thread.
And this thread is leading to something I will not speak of at the moment.
But it's something good, real good. Good for all of us who have built this thread.
More will be revealed in the future.

Aside from that . . .

As Chairman of the World Boxing Hall of Fame Selection Commitee, I believe that every regular poster on this thread, should have a say in who gets inducted into the World Boxing Hall of Fame. You know who you are, the ones who I named to receive a disc of the "first year" of the Classic American West Coast Boxing. Armando Muniz and I will include the names of Frank Baltazar & Tom Ray on the WBHOF "Selection Commitee". I know that at least one of you are already are on the Selection Commitee. As a commitee member, we send you a ballot and you'll be able to vote for your favorites. This also gives you the right to submit your own choices for nomination in future WBHOF inductions. Bennie would give the U.K. another voice, and there is Roger, Randy, Pug, and Bruce.

This gives YOU a voice, and a vote. We are not passing out memberships, you are the only new selection commitee members that will be added this year- Our Boxrec "regulars". My E-Mail is: [email protected]

Just E-mail me if you want to be a member of the "new" World Boxing Hall of Fame Selection Commitee

The collective knowledge of this thread is educating the boxing community, your experience is needed in determining which boxers are to be immortalized.

-Rick Farris

Rick,
I too am as honored to be part of the selection committee as I am to be a part of this great thread with all of these legitamate boxing people who have lived and loved the great sport of boxing for so long and are now sharing their stories and their wealth of knowledge inside and out.
Thank you,
Your Friend,
Bruce

[bennie]

Henry Cooper...1969

Sir 'Enry . . .

This is for our U.K. friends. Last year we inducted Lennox Lewis into the WBHOF. Personally, I'm considering Sir Henry Cooper for the ballot this year. Maurice Hope is another. Cooper was a legendary British, Commonwealth and European Champion. He is also one of only three men to "legitimatly" floor Ali, and the image of the young Cassius Clay blinking his eyes in the corner, trying to regain his senses after coming off the canvas hurt, is one that I'll never forget. Any input from across the pond is appreciated. Bennie, Danny & Rob?

-Rick Farris

Maurice Hope is worthier of the two in my book, because Henry has won virtually every honour in the game while the unsung Maurice won his world title overeas and stopped Vito before Vito held the legendary Hagler to a draw.

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Rick,
I thought you would get a kick out seeing this Referee Magazine from 1967 highlighting one of your boyhood hero's Jerry Quarry and one of mine Nate Collins. Jerry knocked out Al Jones in the third and Nate knocked out Aristeo Chavarin in the first. My father, my brother and I are going to the fights Saturday night in San Jose with Nate, I'll try to pick his brain for some tidbits for our thread.
Bruce

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Fighting Harada vs Jose Medel I, (highlights)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boKUUztbrfc

Hey Frank
When I thanked you for posting that for me,I didn't look first. That's Jofre fighting Medel. No harm,no foul. Thanks anyway. It's the thought that counts

Rog...you're right.....

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[Rick Farris]

Frank
Rick will come back and think, i go away for a couple of days and the FXXXXXG thread goes to bits. Shall we ban him

I haven't gone anywhere, I'm always in touch with this thread.
And this thread is leading to something I will not speak of at the moment.
But it's something good, real good. Good for all of us who have built this thread.
More will be revealed in the future.

Aside from that . . .

As Chairman of the World Boxing Hall of Fame Selection Commitee, I believe that every regular poster on this thread, should have a say in who gets inducted into the World Boxing Hall of Fame. You know who you are, the ones who I named to receive a disc of the "first year" of the Classic American West Coast Boxing. Armando Muniz and I will include the names of Frank Baltazar & Tom Ray on the WBHOF "Selection Commitee". I know that at least one of you are already are on the Selection Commitee. As a commitee member, we send you a ballot and you'll be able to vote for your favorites. This also gives you the right to submit your own choices for nomination in future WBHOF inductions. Bennie would give the U.K. another voice, and there is Roger, Randy, Pug, and Bruce.

This gives YOU a voice, and a vote. We are not passing out memberships, you are the only new selection commitee members that will be added this year- Our Boxrec "regulars". My E-Mail is: [email protected]

Just E-mail me if you want to be a member of the "new" World Boxing Hall of Fame Selection Commitee

The collective knowledge of this thread is educating the boxing community, your experience is needed in determining which boxers are to be immortalized.

-Rick Farris

Rick, I would be honored to cast my vote for the WBHF!! Thank you my friend for including me.

Randy

Ill get everybody's Names E-mail addresses together and submit them before the ballots go out.
This group will be part of who gets inducted into the World Boxing Hall of Fame. Boxing purists who KNOW, and have been a part of the sport.

-Rick Farris

-Rick Farris

[Rick Farris]

Henry Cooper...1969

Sir 'Enry . . .

This is for our U.K. friends. Last year we inducted Lennox Lewis into the WBHOF. Personally, I'm considering Sir Henry Cooper for the ballot this year. Maurice Hope is another. Cooper was a legendary British, Commonwealth and European Champion. He is also one of only three men to "legitimatly" floor Ali, and the image of the young Cassius Clay blinking his eyes in the corner, trying to regain his senses after coming off the canvas hurt, is one that I'll never forget. Any input from across the pond is appreciated. Bennie, Danny & Rob?

-Rick Farris

Maurice Hope is worthier of the two in my book, because Henry has won virtually every honour in the game while the unsung Maurice won his world title overeas and stopped Vito before Vito held the legendary Hagler to a draw.

Thank you, Bennie. I will campaign for Maurice Hope. That's what we need to recognize, those who walked the walk and have slipped out of the public's eye.

-Rick Farris