AUDLEY HARRISON -- VALIDATED BY SKELTON LOSS?

[overhand_right]

I know the majority here are so passionately anti-Audley that they will never give him any credit whatsoever no matter what he does. I don't mind Audley, but i was a bit let down by his negativity v Danny Williams & Dominic Guinn.

HOWEVER, in hindsight, in view of Rogan totally dominating & smashing up a known hard b#stard like Matt Skelton, and even bludgeoning him to the floor & stopping him, surely Audleys gutsy and very close points loss to Rogan looks far less disasterous?

Skelton gave Ruslan Chagaev a good scrap for the WBA belt and proved he could hold his own with the best in the world, yet Rogan totally marmalised the fella and is now world ranked!

F#ck it i'm going to say it - give Audley some credit, you f#cks! Admit he took his whacks, showed some balls & toughness we thought he didn't have and was much better v Rogan than Skelton was.

I defiantly await your wrath.

[Old bones Ian]

Its a fair point mate, But its still Audleys fault he lost. He looked to have the skills to overcome Rogan, but those old stamina problems came back again.

I'd say Audley has found his level, which is just below the top 25 at heavyweight

[overhand_right]

I half agree with you Ian. Watching the fight he did appear to have the skills necessary to overcome, but Rogans class & determination must of shocked him. ALmost all of us here were expecting an easy night for him.

[n1ebf]

No.
Audley's got no business being shocked by anyone's determination. He should have trained so hard so as not to give a shit how tough or hungry the other man is.
I didn't see the fight last week but the description is that a fat, rather than prime Matt Skelton turned up.
Also, Audley's a millionaire Olympic Gold medalist. He doesn't need to worry about driving a taxi about in order to pay bills, and, on top of size and weight and experience advantages, as a gold medalist his skills should have been on another plane.
So no, no credit due IMO.

[Chambers2]

I know the majority here are so passionately anti-Audley that they will never give him any credit whatsoever no matter what he does. I don't mind Audley, but i was a bit let down by his negativity v Danny Williams & Dominic Guinn.

HOWEVER, in hindsight, in view of Rogan totally dominating & smashing up a known hard b#stard like Matt Skelton, and even bludgeoning him to the floor & stopping him, surely Audleys gutsy and very close points loss to Rogan looks far less disasterous?

Skelton gave Ruslan Chagaev a good scrap for the WBA belt and proved he could hold his own with the best in the world, yet Rogan totally marmalised the fella and is now world ranked!

F#ck it i'm going to say it - give Audley some credit, you f#cks! Admit he took his whacks, showed some balls & toughness we thought he didn't have and was much better v Rogan than Skelton was.

I defiantly await your wrath.

I've been thinking along the same lines. It certainly makes Audleys close loss look alot better than it did last week. I hope he manages to secure another chance

[doctorboxing]

I know the majority here are so passionately anti-Audley that they will never give him any credit whatsoever no matter what he does. I don't mind Audley, but i was a bit let down by his negativity v Danny Williams & Dominic Guinn.

HOWEVER, in hindsight, in view of Rogan totally dominating & smashing up a known hard b#stard like Matt Skelton, and even bludgeoning him to the floor & stopping him, surely Audleys gutsy and very close points loss to Rogan looks far less disasterous?

Skelton gave Ruslan Chagaev a good scrap for the WBA belt and proved he could hold his own with the best in the world, yet Rogan totally marmalised the fella and is now world ranked!

F#ck it i'm going to say it - give Audley some credit, you f#cks! Admit he took his whacks, showed some balls & toughness we thought he didn't have and was much better v Rogan than Skelton was.

I defiantly await your wrath.

I've been thinking along the same lines. It certainly makes Audleys close loss look alot better than it did last week. I hope he manages to secure another chance

Wonder what odds you would get on Audley becoming a world champ now?

[Dioufy]

Also Rogan is fighting better with each fight, from Dolan to Audley to Skelton.

[stujones]

Audley and gutsy in the same paragraph ? The fight was close, but Audley fought like a P*ssy again.

Audley will never be validated as a fighter, an athlete maybe. He has more skills than Skelton... but he doesn't have the stamina or the ticker to make it.

Skelton took Rogan lightly for sure, was running on a high and looking for a world title shot. He's also 42 (at least) and at a dangerous age. Audley was in the last chance saloon, and he blew it.

Rogan beat Skelton.... Audley lost to Rogan. There is a difference there, but not one that validates Audley.

[TerribleTerry]

No.

[stujones]

Audley and gutsy in the same paragraph ? The fight was close, but Audley fought like a P*ssy again.

Audley will never be validated as a fighter, an athlete maybe. He has more skills than Skelton... but he doesn't have the stamina or the ticker to make it.

Skelton took Rogan lightly for sure, was running on a high and looking for a world title shot. He's also 42 (at least) and at a dangerous age. Audley was in the last chance saloon, and he blew it.

Rogan beat Skelton.... Audley lost to Rogan. There is a difference there, but not one that validates Audley.

Hardly, his jaw was broken, and he battled through that, and also had to contend with the onset of dementia.

Rogan rematch would be nice, Come on Big Aud!

I assume you are joking about the broken jaw.

[jeej]

Validated what though? That he is still pretty poor, just marginally less poor since Skelton lost to Rogan?

Doesn't really change anything, does it?

[Shirow]

Audley and gutsy in the same paragraph ? The fight was close, but Audley fought like a P*ssy again.

Audley will never be validated as a fighter, an athlete maybe. He has more skills than Skelton... but he doesn't have the stamina or the ticker to make it.

Skelton took Rogan lightly for sure, was running on a high and looking for a world title shot. He's also 42 (at least) and at a dangerous age. Audley was in the last chance saloon, and he blew it.

Rogan beat Skelton.... Audley lost to Rogan. There is a difference there, but not one that validates Audley.

Hardly, his jaw was broken, and he battled through that, and also had to contend with the onset of dementia.

Rogan rematch would be nice, Come on Big Aud!

I assume you are joking about the broken jaw.

...and deadly serious about the dementia?

[clubberlang]

I know the majority here are so passionately anti-Audley that they will never give him any credit whatsoever no matter what he does. I don't mind Audley, but i was a bit let down by his negativity v Danny Williams & Dominic Guinn.

HOWEVER, in hindsight, in view of Rogan totally dominating & smashing up a known hard b#stard like Matt Skelton, and even bludgeoning him to the floor & stopping him, surely Audleys gutsy and very close points loss to Rogan looks far less disasterous?

Skelton gave Ruslan Chagaev a good scrap for the WBA belt and proved he could hold his own with the best in the world, yet Rogan totally marmalised the fella and is now world ranked!

F#ck it i'm going to say it - give Audley some credit, you f#cks! Admit he took his whacks, showed some balls & toughness we thought he didn't have and was much better v Rogan than Skelton was.

I defiantly await your wrath.

I said basically the same thing in a different thread, to be honest at the time I thought that Audley had fought well by his standards, but I brushed in under the carpet because I thought of course he didn’t look completely useless he was fighting a taxi driver.

Didn’t a few people at ringside think that Audley won the Rogan fight as well?

[Adamj1987]

no of course not he still lost to a comparative novice audley has the skills and experiance to beat rogan if they ever fought again just audley has never had the hunger because of the millions he was paid and the gold medal he is what amir khan could slip into if hes not carefull and think he's the number 1 superstar

[funso banjo baby]

Audley could spoil and grab hold of anyone all night...

the bottom line is...even if he'd beaten Rogan I wouldnt have given him the decision ..pure and simple


go away audley !

[overhand_right]

'Amir Khan slip into'?

Audley went 12 rds when he stepped up, Amir was stretched in 51 seconds.

[n1ebf]

'Amir Khan slip into'?

Audley went 12 rds when he stepped up, Amir was stretched in 51 seconds.

yeah don't forget too, he beat Sonny Liston.....well, Dutch version. Essentially the same thing............

[hitman_hatton1]

'Amir Khan slip into'?

Audley went 12 rds when he stepped up, Amir was stretched in 51 seconds.

12 rds against danny williams.

who is nowhere near world class.

prescott is at worst a bottom half of the world top 10 level fighter.

and a puncher.

i'm not excusing 54 seconds but he is a puncher.

[overhand_right]

'Amir Khan slip into'?

Audley went 12 rds when he stepped up, Amir was stretched in 51 seconds.

12 rds against danny williams.

who is nowhere near world class.

prescott is at worst a bottom half of the world top 10 level fighter.

and a puncher.

i'm not excusing 54 seconds but he is a puncher.

Danny Williams is a puncher. And he knocked out Mike Tyson and fought Vitali Klitschko in Las Vegas for the world title. Beat Matt Skelton who handled himself well v Ruslan Chagaev.

And you're saying he's not world class?

What crazy frickin high standards do you have??!

[hitman_hatton1]

'Amir Khan slip into'?

Audley went 12 rds when he stepped up, Amir was stretched in 51 seconds.

12 rds against danny williams.

who is nowhere near world class.

prescott is at worst a bottom half of the world top 10 level fighter.

and a puncher.

i'm not excusing 54 seconds but he is a puncher.

Danny Williams is a puncher. And he knocked out Mike Tyson and fought Vitali Klitschko in Las Vegas for the world title.

And you're saying he's not world class?

What crazy frickin high standards do you have??!

when has williams ever proved he was world class.

he was stopped in a european title shot.

beat a 38 yr old mike tyson.

he never proved he was world class.

williams can crack a bit of wallop.

he decked audley of course.

[overhand_right]

Oh i see by your writing i'm speaking to a child.

[n1ebf]

he decked audley of course

ah yes...the phantom punch

[alexpaterson]

Its a fair point mate, But its still Audleys fault he lost. He looked to have the skills to overcome Rogan, but those old stamina problems came back again.

I'd say Audley has found his level, which is just below the top 25 at heavyweight

Audrey has the skills to beat a lot of fighters he just doesnt have the desire the fitness and hes scared to take a punch technically hes a half decent boxer he just doesnt have the mental attributes

[Horse]

prescott is at worst a bottom half of the world top 10 level fighter.

Prescott is at best a lower top 10 fighter and that is only because he beat Khan.

[hitman09]

No, things change from one fight to another. Rogan may have been given a boost by beating Aud', so was better in the Skelton fight, meaning Aud' cannot profit from that loss.

Exactly my view