Classic American West Coast Boxing

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kikibalt wrote:Rick...The time that I spent running the Jr. program was with out a doubt the most rewarding period that I spent in boxing, getting to know all the kids from differed clubs, puting the shows together, my boys fought for the Teamsters Boys Club, as did Frankie Duarte, so I got to know Frankie good back in those days, there were other kids that fought for the Teamsters Boys Club under different trainers, my boys, Frankie Duarte, Johnny Jensen. et al. fought for the Louie J. wing of the club, when Frankie Duarte was getting ready to go pro, Louie talked to me about him and I been co-mangers but, before we could sigh Frankie up Johnny Cabrera stole Frankie & Johnny Jensen from Louie, not long after that my boys out grew the Jrs and we had to move on, which happen just in time, because that about the time when all those guys and some gals too in all white started running all the amateurs.... :witzend:
The "White Suits" . . .

Frank . . . I hate those phony bastards in their white uniforms, their ridiculous rules, all that head-guard crap that get kids hit more than without it. They really have the attitude too, like this is one area of life "they are in control" so don't look at them wrong. We did have it great :TU: We didn't have everybody registered with the FBI, Immigration Dept., CIA, whatever else you must clear today to be an "acceptable" amateur athlete. Fighters come off the street, not off a college campus. But I won't preach to the choir, you know.

I will always have a special respect for my friend, Greg Goossen, for his method of dealing with an arrogant "Official in White". At the time, Greg and I liked to drink a bit and I ran into him at a San Fernando Valley watering hole with our friend, the late actor, Victor French. Somehow, we all ended up at Goossen's North Hollywood home, which was on a big cul-d-sac and had a backyard gym on the lot, the original "Ten Goose Boxing Gym".

Greg was going to show us a video of a recent Frankie Duarte fight where he won the Stroh's $100,000 pro tournement at the Forum. I don't know what happened, but I woke up to the phone ringing on Greg's coffee table. Goossen came out of his room and asked if I wanted to join he and Joe at an amateur card in Ventura. "We're bringing Gabe and Rafael", he said. I was in. I hadn't yet seen the Ruelas brothers box outside the gym and I knew they had styles like professionals. They could both close the show with a single punch.

When we get to the event, we're a little late. The Ruelas brothers and Joe were fresh-faced and ready. Greg and I were hungover, neither of us are known for having patience. We need to find the dressing room and Greg spots an official looking tower, with "white uniforms" milling about. Greg approaches a tall, thin, pasty skinned greying official, his white slacks and shirt neatly pressed. Greg trys to get the guy's attention, but he is not interested in responding to Goossen. Greg finally walks up and taps the man on the shoulder. The man turns with a look of surprise on his face, looks down his nose at Goossen and asks, "yes?"

Greg looks like a bum, unshaven, you can still smell the previous nights booze on him. Greg asks the U.S. Boxing official, "Where's the fighter's dressing room?"

A look of shock comes over the official's face. "You mean the 'boxer's' dressing rooms. They are boxers, not "fighters", the official told Greg. Goossen's face suddenly turned into a smile, "Well I've got two FIGHTERS here, and if your boxers can't fight, then they are in big trouble!"

The snooty official just shook his head, but thought better of challenging Greg. He pointed to the other end of the building, and we walked off, with the two FIGHTERS :box:


-Rick Farris

(And just for the record, Gabe flattened a "boxer" with a brutal left hook to the chin. Out cold in less than 30 seconds. Rafael's bout was also stopped in the first round, when a young "boxer" began to bleed from the nose, and a "white uniform" official stopped the bout. I guess "boxers" aren't supposed to bleed. Imagine that!)
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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Randy, there are some amateur fights in El Monte tonight, going?
Where are they at?
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Five Points, El Monte
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kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Randy, there are some amateur fights in El Monte tonight, going?
Where are they at?
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Five Points, El Monte
I'm going to this one. It's been forty years since I last saw a fight in El Monte, and I fought that night, back in 1969.

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Randyman wrote:Image

Guys, this is an early photo of Jeri and I, in fact, this is the the first photograph we took together. This was 1975. I was about 145 pounds when this photo was taken. It was in my parents backyard. It's a little fuzzy.

Mel never met Jeri but he always gave a hard time about her back then. When it came to women, Mel hated them all. Whenever I tell Jeri what Mel would say about her, she says "That jackass" (sorry Mel).

Randy
JACKASS!!!! Tell Jeri, yes, he was! :TU: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:Randy, there are some amateur fights in El Monte tonight, going?
Where are they at?

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Five Points, El Monte

I'm going to this one. It's been forty years since I last saw a fight in El Monte, and I fought that night, back in 1969.

-Rick
I was there 40 years ago, remember that night REAL GOOD!.... :lol:

Btw, Frankie and I might go too.
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Randyman wrote:Image

Guys, this is an early photo of Jeri and I, in fact, this is the the first photograph we took together. This was 1975. I was about 145 pounds when this photo was taken. It was in my parents backyard. It's a little fuzzy.

Mel never met Jeri but he always gave a hard time about her back then. When it came to women, Mel hated them all. Whenever I tell Jeri what Mel would say about her, she says "That jackass" (sorry Mel).

Randy
Randy . . . Mel always treated Karla respectfully, but she once asked me, "Do you think Mel is an old faggot?"
I told her, "No, Mel is just OLD!"

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kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Randy, there are some amateur fights in El Monte tonight, going?
Where are they at?
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Five Points, El Monte
I just might do that Frank.

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Rick Farris wrote:
Randyman wrote:Image

Guys, this is an early photo of Jeri and I, in fact, this is the the first photograph we took together. This was 1975. I was about 145 pounds when this photo was taken. It was in my parents backyard. It's a little fuzzy.

Mel never met Jeri but he always gave a hard time about her back then. When it came to women, Mel hated them all. Whenever I tell Jeri what Mel would say about her, she says "That jackass" (sorry Mel).

Randy
Randy . . . Mel always treated Karla respectfully, but she once asked me, "Do you think Mel is an old faggot?"
I told her, "No, Mel is just OLD!"

-Rick
I have no doubt that Mel would have been respectful if he had met Jeri but when out of earshot, the real Mel came out. In those situations, as you well know, Mel was hard to take. Still, he was unique wasn't he?

Randy :lol:
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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:Randy, there are some amateur fights in El Monte tonight, going?
Where are they at?

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Five Points, El Monte

I just might do that Frank.

Randy
It looks like we're going, Frankie, James and I, Connie don't want to go, good, I can look at the girls then.... :lol:
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Randyman wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
Randyman wrote:Image

Guys, this is an early photo of Jeri and I, in fact, this is the the first photograph we took together. This was 1975. I was about 145 pounds when this photo was taken. It was in my parents backyard. It's a little fuzzy.

Mel never met Jeri but he always gave a hard time about her back then. When it came to women, Mel hated them all. Whenever I tell Jeri what Mel would say about her, she says "That jackass" (sorry Mel).

Randy
Randy . . . Mel always treated Karla respectfully, but she once asked me, "Do you think Mel is an old faggot?"
I told her, "No, Mel is just OLD!"

-Rick
I have no doubt that Mel would have been respectful if he had met Jeri but when out of earshot, the real Mel came out. In those situations, as you well know, Mel was hard to take. Still, he was unique wasn't he?

Randy :lol:
Randy . . . Yes, Mel was unique. He never discriminated against anybody, he pretty much hated everybody. Or so he'd try to make you believe.
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I have just posted this in another forum here but i thought you you guys might like it also


On any chat board as you well know you will find a range of different people. Its a bit like at a party you have been invited to or drinking at your regular bar or drinking hole. Difference is on line you can be a tough guy and a keyboard warrior and get away with it most times. But take a bet that many who think they are a tough nut would be as quite as a mouse in a different situation. Where the wrong word or even a stare at a stranger a little to long would lead to making a guy feel uncomfortable very quickly.

I have always tried to live by the rule speak to others as you yourself would like to be spoken to. I also agree never say anything to someone on line that you would not be prepared to say to him in person.

Tell you a funny story, i used to go into chat rooms a lot one time and flirt with the girls just for a laugh. Well one guy got really mad with me because most of the girls were chatting to me and not him. Anyway he told me in private he thought i was a queer because of the way i was talking to the girls. I told him for a so called queer i was a doing a heck of a good job taking his girls off him. Every time i came into the same chat room after that he used to brag about him being a doorman and some sort of judo expert and if he ever met me he was going to kick my head in. I was hoping he would get tired of his silly behaviour after a couple of weeks but he just not would stop. So i decided the guy needed a lesson.

I got a girl i knew very well to go into the chat room and start talking a little sexy, of course not to him at first could be to obvious, but to all, but knowing the guys nature i knew he would be after her. To prove to him that she was genuine she spoke to him live using her web cam. In about a couple of hours of there chat he was begging to meet here. He even gave her his home phone number So i still held back because i wanted his full home address. After asking Susan many times to meet him she agreed but said for safety reasons on there first date she would only go if her friend could come with her guy and as a foursome they could all have a nice friendly drink together. She told him they would come by car and of course pick him up at his house. She said "No other way for the first time am i meeting a stranger on my own" She was a stunning looking girl and he was so desperate to meet her he agreed. Probably hoping for better things on a second date. Now i had his phone number and full address. No it was tempting to turn up with her girlfriend and be the other guy, but to be honest i guessed he was a waste of space so i decided to do it this way.

I got the girl to phone his home again when i was at her place. When he answered the phone she said "I have a friend who would like a word with you about us all meeting" and she then gave me the phone. When i told him who i was and if he was still interested in meeting me the guy nearly shit his pants and was almost begging me not to harm him.

That's why you should never turn into a keyboard tough as there are ways and means, and one day something you say to a guy on a chat board can turn and bite you in the ass.
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Randyman wrote:Image

Guys, this is an early photo of Jeri and I, in fact, this is the the first photograph we took together. This was 1975. I was about 145 pounds when this photo was taken. It was in my parents backyard. It's a little fuzzy.

Mel never met Jeri but he always gave a hard time about her back then. When it came to women, Mel hated them all. Whenever I tell Jeri what Mel would say about her, she says "That jackass" (sorry Mel).

Randy
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Dont it make us feel old when we look back at some of our old photo's :TU:
Mind you i am still only about nine pounds more in weight that when i was in my prime. Less hair though and a few more lines on the face --- sob sob
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Baby Vasquez
LAST MAN STANDING

I was watching that documentary that won the Academy Award awhile back,"When We Were Kings". The story of Ali's fight with Foreman. Just to get this out of the way. If you want to get into a pissin' contest,go to another thread and post sometin' on Muhammad Ali. Either way you see this guy,you'll get your ass reamed by some real hot heads.

But I've got mixed feelings on the guy anyway so it makes no difference. I just don't like tradin' insults on a computer. OK,here's what I'm gettin' at. I watch that documentary and I've come to the conclusion that Ali won that fight,more than anything else,because he knew he had all those poor people over there on his side. Those poor people in those villages thought Ali was gonna' win. Hell they didn't know anything about boxing. They hadn't even heard of George Foreman. When Ali stepped off the plane in Zaire,the first question he asked was if all the thousands at the airport were his fans. When he realized they were ,it gave him the confidence when all the experts were picking Foreman.

Ali would run through the villages and the kids would run with him. He'd stop and interact with the people. Play with the kids. Kiss babies. After the first round of his fight with Foreman,he knew George wasn't going to flop from those right hand leads...ala" the anchor punch". He then turned to the hundred thousand and started the chant. "Ali boom ba yey." Yes the masses were with him. They believed in him.

That's why he won that fight. Their faith gave Ali his faith to endure and finally KO a drained Foreman. Ali didn't win for the sports writers,the odds makers, Jim Brown,or Howard Cosell. He won that fight for the little people of our planet. He always drew strength from their faith in him.

Now see that guy in the picture above. He's a fighter. Or was. Not known like Ali,but he was the common man's sort. A slippery guy who avoided the big shots and at the end ,win or lose, would be smilin' like in that picture.

When this planet finally implodes from all the cancer and filth brought on by the technology of the smart people. When the radiation finally kills us all. Who'll be left? The bankers? The oilmen? the politicians? No. It will be some guy they called "Baby". Like the guy in the picture. He'll be standing there with that smile. He went unnoticed. He slipped all the punches.Like the cockroach. He's still breathin'.

I hope I'm around to see him. He'll probably say,"Now you see me,now you don't"
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Rodolfo "Gato" Gonzalez, Frankie Baltazar & Kevin Morgan, Morgan is the son of L.C. Morgan
El Monte amateur boxing show
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kikibalt wrote:Charles Laughton

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I remember back one night in the mid-1950s, Connie and I
sitting at the Hollywood Legion watching some fights, can't
remember who was fighting the main, but sitting right behind
Connie was the great actor Charles Laughton, real friendly man..... :TU:
His performance in Hobson's Choice is brilliant, but then, he was a brilliant actor.
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Rodolfo "Gato" Gonzalez, Frankie Baltazar & Kevin Morgan, Morgan is the son of L.C. Morgan
El Monte amateur boxing show
A dangerous puncher, Kevin Morgan. Three great fighters.
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kikibalt wrote:J.C.Chavez vs R. Sandoval, Jamie Garza vs Bobby Berna & Frankie Garcia vs The Jeep

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oF5dVmjznY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSXVLVgD2Y8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xto0IW1dBA
Nice to see those Howard Davis knockdowns at the hands of Tony. Life is the the best left hook...
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kikibalt wrote:Image
Rodolfo "Gato" Gonzalez, Frankie Baltazar & Kevin Morgan, Morgan is the son of L.C. Morgan
El Monte amateur boxing show
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Please,somone get the low down on L.C. Morgan. His career fascinates me. A black fighter from Mississippi fighting most of his career in small arenas in Mexico. Unparralled! Rog
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L.C Morgan lived in Mexico for ten years..... :TU:
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bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Charles Laughton

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I remember back one night in the mid-1950s, Connie and I
sitting at the Hollywood Legion watching some fights, can't
remember who was fighting the main, but sitting right behind
Connie was the great actor Charles Laughton, real friendly man..... :TU:
His performance in Hobson's Choice is brilliant, but then, he was a brilliant actor.
Bennie, how about Laughton's role as Quasimodo in The Hunchback of Notre Dame?
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