Dislocated shoulders...

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 09 Jul 2004, 08:17

In eras gone by, any boxer who suffered a dislocated shoulder had the thing snapped back in by some half-pissed doctor in the dressing room - and that was it.
So why do fighters now require an op on a dislocated shoulder?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 09 Jul 2004, 08:19

I think it's often the muscles and tendons around it which are operated on, to ensure that it doesn't occur again. When a shoulder is dislocated once, it damages tendons and that makes it more likely to occur again.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 09 Jul 2004, 08:24

bennie wrote:In eras gone by, any boxer who suffered a dislocated shoulder had the thing snapped back in by some half-pissed doctor in the dressing room - and that was it.
So why do fighters now require an op on a dislocated shoulder?

Those half pissed doctors are still around.... I remember Erik Teymour getting quite a nasty cut against Vage Kocharyan in Wales and when he saw the state of the doctor who was about to stitch it he quickly changed his mind......

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 09 Jul 2004, 08:25

Remember when ageing Bonecrusher "Bitch Tits" Smith suffered a dislocation against Aussie Joe? The doctor that night was a joker, trying to yank the shoulder back into place while Smith gripped the top rope with his other hand.

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 09 Jul 2004, 08:52

Sticking a dislocated shoulder back in can be very difficult, depends on all sorts of things, and should only be done under proper conditions. You also need to work on the specific area afterwards to strengthen it back up. Operations could be around any tissue or ligament that was damaged during the dislocation.

Kid playing rugby at my school had a promising career ended by a games master who thought he could just pop it back in.

I've had a few dislocations, and in fact still have a dislocated bone in my shoulder and a dislocated collar bone, but they'll only start giving me hassle when I'm 75 and by that stage the arthritis in my knuckles should be so bad I won't be able to feel anything else.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 09 Jul 2004, 09:24

Coconut wrote:I've had a few dislocations, and in fact still have a dislocated bone in my shoulder and a dislocated collar bone, but they'll only start giving me hassle when I'm 75 and by that stage the arthritis in my knuckles should be so bad I won't be able to feel anything else.

Did you find it effected your punch afterwards?

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 09 Jul 2004, 09:46

bennie wrote:
Coconut wrote:I've had a few dislocations, and in fact still have a dislocated bone in my shoulder and a dislocated collar bone, but they'll only start giving me hassle when I'm 75 and by that stage the arthritis in my knuckles should be so bad I won't be able to feel anything else.
Did you find it effected your punch afterwards?

Not at all. I'd sometimes feel it on the hills on really cold mornings, but I have absolutely no problems with it now whether I'm playing any sport, boxing myself or holding the pads.

That said, as a rugby player as well, I do know a few guys who've had a shoulder pop out and they say that the strength in the tackle just goes. Mate of mine gave up last season because of it. I think one of the keys is proper rehab and making sure you do everything properly when it happens.

However, I was reading on the main board a while back where some feller was ranting about Chris Byrd's illegal parrying of shots by basically aiming for the hands and putting loads of pressure on the shoulders. Not sure how true that is, or how much medical knowledge was behind that assertion, but it's interesting nevertheless

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 09 Jul 2004, 09:50

Is that illegal? You're saying that aiming for your opponents gloved hands is illegal. News to me, but then it's not something you see often.

I think Byrd is going to get KTFO when he fights Golota again.

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 09 Jul 2004, 10:46

Well, whoever the guy was (I forget, I spend very little time there) he was getting roundly panned for his views.

His argument centred around the fact that he thought Byrd was aiming for the gloves and actually punching, which he held as illegal.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 09 Jul 2004, 10:50

As far as I know, anything above the belt is game aside from shots to the liver, neck and back of the head.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 09 Jul 2004, 12:47

jamesmcdonnell wrote:As far as I know, anything above the belt is game aside from shots to the liver, neck and back of the head.

Yep, that's what I had always thought as well.

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