I disagree with you on the point that Holmes did not win. I think he did what he had to do, which was psyche out a complacent and out of shape Ray Mercer, who ended up eating right hands all night and did not have a clue what to do when Holmes stayed on the ropes waited for Mercer to come in. I think Holmes was in better physical shape than Mercer.BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:- I said Holmes didn't beat Mercer, not even close. Not a robbery because Mercer was more interested in acting like a lazy thug. He POed the judges.witherspoon wrote: Holmes v Mercer - a great, old fighter defying his age.
I would like to call out whoever it was who said Mercer was robbed. I distinctly remember reading such a comment very recently on this board. Please justify!
I never heard Mercer complain. RING GENERALSHIP! look it up.
He almost broke Holmes' neck after choking him out. He was lazy though, and more interested in trapping him in the corner and then slapping him with little taps. Holmes was feisty, but he spent most of the time illegally grabbing the ropes which he started doing late in his title days as his legs went, and backed to the ropes. Mercer could've imposed his considerable strength advantage over Holmes, but probably wasn't in first rate shape and chose to coast.
At any rate, it was the only significant bout Holmes won in his comeback. He was literally the 250lb weakling of the division.
The Last Bout You Watched...
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witherspoon
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elmersalsa
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I just saw 3 times today "The Fight of the Century"...What a fight...Ali and Frazier gave everything they had for 2 million dollars each.

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allworld80
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Marvin Hagler/Alan Minter - more famous for the despicable actions of the crowd than the beating Marvin gave Minter. Hagler's prowess was on full display in this one.
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Kelvin Davis vs Ezra Sellers
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Ike Ibeabuchi vs David Tua
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Ike Ibeabuchi vs David Tua
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elmersalsa
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I watched last week the Duran vs DeJesus II fight. I remember that fight like it was yesterday. It was a Saturday afternoon in Panama City, Panama of March 16, 1974...Thirty-five years ago.

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Goodnight, Irene
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Just viewed Andre Berto-David Estrada, in anticipation of the former's up-coming title shot against the incumbent at 147lbs, Shane Mosley.
Good, not great fight, with some solid action throughout. Great third round. Berto will give this a very good shake
Good, not great fight, with some solid action throughout. Great third round. Berto will give this a very good shake
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Jose Napoles just got clubbed into submission by Carlos Monzon...
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mhagler91490
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At the moment I am watching Burgos-Martinez.
The last couple of nights I watched McCallum-Collins and Arbacachov-Kittikasem. Both were excellent fights.
The last couple of nights I watched McCallum-Collins and Arbacachov-Kittikasem. Both were excellent fights.
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Datsue
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Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym MD12 Satoshi Hosono, from last Monday.
Absolute war, with the younger Japanese fighter stupidly meeting the Thai in the trenches. Poonsawat begins to dominate down the stretch, even switching to a boxing-moving style (a bit like a poor man's young Julio Cesar Chavez, when he thought he'd broken you down enough inside to step outside & potshot at you to lure you in). Very entertaining fight.
Then it was Wilfredo Gomez TKO 14 Lupe Pintor. Unbelievable. Gets better every time I watch it.
Absolute war, with the younger Japanese fighter stupidly meeting the Thai in the trenches. Poonsawat begins to dominate down the stretch, even switching to a boxing-moving style (a bit like a poor man's young Julio Cesar Chavez, when he thought he'd broken you down enough inside to step outside & potshot at you to lure you in). Very entertaining fight.
Then it was Wilfredo Gomez TKO 14 Lupe Pintor. Unbelievable. Gets better every time I watch it.
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Counter-puncher
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i watched that last night too, as it happens. do you always end up shouting at Gomez for the flagrant elbows and low blows, too?Datsue wrote:
Then it was Wilfredo Gomez TKO 14 Lupe Pintor. Unbelievable. Gets better every time I watch it.
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alexpaterson
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Rose vs Rudkin
Rose is absoulote quality early but Rudking battles back but cant quite claw his way back I had it 144-141
Rose is absoulote quality early but Rudking battles back but cant quite claw his way back I had it 144-141
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Datsue
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Yeah, he was one of those not-even sneaky fvckers that really annoy me, like Cotto. If you're gonna stick the elbow in at least make an attempt to disguise it, FFS. Also, Gomez was wilting from left hooks to the bottom of the lat/floating rib area a half-dozen times, & managed to get four or five called low, when they landed about six inches north of the border!Counter-puncher wrote:i watched that last night too, as it happens. do you always end up shouting at Gomez for the flagrant elbows and low blows, too?Datsue wrote:
Then it was Wilfredo Gomez TKO 14 Lupe Pintor. Unbelievable. Gets better every time I watch it.
I, too have the nasty habit of offering fighters advice from my TV screen. When Hearns starts to wilt versus Leonard, you should hear me; girlfriend gives me some funny looks, I tells ya.
The way Pintor & Gomez put it to one another is just insane, though.
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Will be making some time for Miguel Cotto-Jose Torres at some point tomorrow. Am excited. Have always heard about this one, but not yet seen it. Bombs away 8)
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Famechon vs Harada II.
Great fight, really thought Famechon really stepped up a level from their first bout. Peppered Harada with a great jab from the outside, doubling/tripling it up. Any attempt of Harada to clinch and wrestle him, was met by constant uppercuts.
Great fight, really thought Famechon really stepped up a level from their first bout. Peppered Harada with a great jab from the outside, doubling/tripling it up. Any attempt of Harada to clinch and wrestle him, was met by constant uppercuts.
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alexpaterson
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I watched the Carbajal v Gonzalez 3 and the undercard, what a terrific card that was. I was so impressed with Lopez he was brilliant his movement and combinations were breathtaking but Varguez's heart, chin and bravery was esquisite
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keyboard warrior
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Hearns - Kinchen
Just picked up a Hearns double CD with Barkley and Kinchen for $10. Watched Hearns - Barkley first.
Just picked up a Hearns double CD with Barkley and Kinchen for $10. Watched Hearns - Barkley first.
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Datsue wrote:Yeah, he was one of those not-even sneaky fvckers that really annoy me, like Cotto. If you're gonna stick the elbow in at least make an attempt to disguise it, FFS. Also, Gomez was wilting from left hooks to the bottom of the lat/floating rib area a half-dozen times, & managed to get four or five called low, when they landed about six inches north of the border!Counter-puncher wrote:i watched that last night too, as it happens. do you always end up shouting at Gomez for the flagrant elbows and low blows, too?Datsue wrote:
Then it was Wilfredo Gomez TKO 14 Lupe Pintor. Unbelievable. Gets better every time I watch it.
I, too have the nasty habit of offering fighters advice from my TV screen. When Hearns starts to wilt versus Leonard, you should hear me; girlfriend gives me some funny looks, I tells ya.
The way Pintor & Gomez put it to one another is just insane, though.
indeed. good ol' Lupe offers an object lesson in how to counter back to head and body under extreme duress, behind a lovely stiff jab, and jolting bodyshots.
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laughran-carnera.
Carnera put a beat down on the former light heavy champ after being outboxer for a round
Carnera put a beat down on the former light heavy champ after being outboxer for a round
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Jonny Tapia vs Paulie Ayala 1.
Great fight.
Great fight.
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A Fight Of The Year contender, 2000's Felix Trinidad vs. Fernando Vargas.
Playing for keeps, those boys
Playing for keeps, those boys
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HomicideHenry
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Paul Sykes vs John L. Gardner (British Heavyweight title match)
Haven't got to watch too many 'new' bouts as of late since my cable is off, but during Christmas eve and day, I watched College Boxing over at my mother and father's; Teddy Atlas was doing commentary. Some of them were decent, but imho, alot of them fought more aggressive like pro boxers rather than amateurs who are supposed to win on points.
Haven't got to watch too many 'new' bouts as of late since my cable is off, but during Christmas eve and day, I watched College Boxing over at my mother and father's; Teddy Atlas was doing commentary. Some of them were decent, but imho, alot of them fought more aggressive like pro boxers rather than amateurs who are supposed to win on points.
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Holmes vs Spinks II
Jimmerson vs Andries
Holmes vs Norton
are the bouts I watched over the last couple of days.
Jimmerson vs Andries
Holmes vs Norton
are the bouts I watched over the last couple of days.
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Goodnight, Irene
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I had it a little wider than the judges, Kym. 9-6, 144-141, Holmes over Norton. Yourself?Robinson wrote:Holmes vs Spinks II
Jimmerson vs Andries
Holmes vs Norton
are the bouts I watched over the last couple of days.
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Datsue
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Jeff Harding vs Dennis Andries I.
Insane fight. Harding's left hooks to the bottom of the lat decide it, after the Aussie soaks up all the bombs in the world. He just wore Andries out.
Insane fight. Harding's left hooks to the bottom of the lat decide it, after the Aussie soaks up all the bombs in the world. He just wore Andries out.
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alexpaterson
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Yes very good fight and a good performance by both men, Andries landed some really big shots but Harding was just so relentlessDatsue wrote:Jeff Harding vs Dennis Andries I.
Insane fight. Harding's left hooks to the bottom of the lat decide it, after the Aussie soaks up all the bombs in the world. He just wore Andries out.