Fogle v Owen on BBC 1 now.

Matchfixer · Post by **Matchfixer** » 10 Jul 2004, 17:35

Enjoy!

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 10 Jul 2004, 17:47

Buncey get's on!!

Matchfixer · Post by **Matchfixer** » 10 Jul 2004, 18:45

Fogle won that I think.

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 10 Jul 2004, 18:46

They are not boxers!!

Matchfixer · Post by **Matchfixer** » 10 Jul 2004, 18:48

Kevin wrote:They are not boxers!!

Sid Owen was a former amateur.

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 10 Jul 2004, 18:49

Didn't look like it in there tonight

AlexY2K4 · Post by **AlexY2K4** » 10 Jul 2004, 18:51

I thought Fogle won also.

These charity boxing things are always good light hearted fun.

Who's donated then? I felt quite generous, I would have felt guilty otherwise.

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 10 Jul 2004, 18:53

BBN donated £50 to Hennessy for their run at Nottingham today

richter-scale · Post by **richter-scale** » 10 Jul 2004, 18:53

SID THE SNAKE.... 8)

Matchfixer · Post by **Matchfixer** » 10 Jul 2004, 19:18

They both deserve a lot of credit. No-one's expecting them to be boxing experts but given the short space of time I think they did really well.

Let's not forget the whole point is to raise money for charity.

Those clips in between of really poor children having to work for a living - for example the 2 year old girl who collects mica 6 days a week - was depressing.

neil r · Post by **neil r** » 10 Jul 2004, 19:24

Matchfixer wrote:They both deserve a lot of credit. No-one's expecting them to be boxing experts but given the short space of time I think they did really well.

Let's not forget the whole point is to raise money for charity.

Those clips in between of really poor children having to work for a living - for example the 2 year old girl who collects mica 6 days a week - was depressing.

Quite right mate she should have a paper round. Mica should be collected at the age of four upwards

richter-scale · Post by **richter-scale** » 10 Jul 2004, 19:40

SNAKE WAS ROBBED... :(

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 10 Jul 2004, 19:52

that was Eurosport like scheduling! I taped the show that i thought started at 10.00 and went on till 10.15 (according to the TV guide)...i thought this seemed a little short so recorded for an hour and all i got were some previews. And i just switched over to find the result

anyways, didn't expect that posh boy to win.

AlexY2K4 · Post by **AlexY2K4** » 10 Jul 2004, 19:53

What is mica?

neil r · Post by **neil r** » 10 Jul 2004, 20:11

AlexY2K4 wrote:What is mica?

its a mineral or more exactly a group of minerals. amythyst being the most common

http://mineral.galleries.com/minerals/s ... /micas.htm

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 11 Jul 2004, 08:06

From the BBC

Ben Fogle was the proud owner of the Sport Relief Light Entertainment Boxing Belt after beating Sid Owen in the charity's Celebrity Boxing match.
The former Castaway heartthrob could also boast to being the undisputed people's champions after winning 68% of the public vote.

More than 130,000 votes were made within 15 minutes of the fight ending.

Owen shaded round one after an energetic start, but Fogle's stamina was the key as he finished on top.

TV presenter Fogle, 31, and former EastEnders star Owen, 32, have faced six gruelling weeks of training in preparation for the celebrity fight.

In the red corner, former Castaway heart-throb Fogle weighed in at a trim 12st 11lb, while his stockier rival revealed a fighting weight of 12-13.5.

But fitness proved crucial as Owen looked a spent force by the last of the three one-and-a-half minute rounds.

"I have only been training for a couple of weeks, but that is on the back of running the Sands Marathon, which is 150 miles across the Sahara Desert in six days, so I felt fit enough," said Fogle who, at six feet exactly, towered above his rival.

Owen had promised to "give it 200m%" and was good to his word in a powerful start.

But his trainer Frank Maloney, who coached Ricky Gervais last year, was forced to accept a first-ever Celebrity Fight defeat.

Fogle was clearly delighted at surprising those who had believed he was "too posh to punch".

Following his patient performance he paid tribute to his trainer Jim McDonnell, who currently looks after British and Commonwealth heavyweight champion Danny Williams, and mentor Frank Bruno.

"I used to dread training with Jim but I owe so much to them," Fogle said.

In the true tradition of boxing, both fighters adopted menacing nicknames.

Animal Park presenter Fogle opted for "The Bear" because of his wildlife background and in honour of his Canadian father.

Hissing Sid Owen, whose mentor was former world featherweight champion Barry McGuigan, was known as The Snake.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 11 Jul 2004, 08:38

I was going to watch this, but had less then 4 hours sleep on Friday night, so just couldn't keep my eyes open. I don't have as much of an issue with this celebrity boxing as some people do, if its taken in the right way. I mean its supposed to be a bit of fun, not serious.

The only one I saw properly was the Ricky Gervais one. I thought the documentary was interesting because it showed how hard people have to train for boxing, even for only three 1-and a half minute rounds. If it creates respect and generally interest in the sport then its good. Though, I guess peoples ideas of the sport might be tainted, they might think its some kind of novelty act, I suppose. But sport is to be enjoyed after all......

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 11 Jul 2004, 10:09

I saw it, standard was a better than the last two fight, Fogle won it clean for me. By the sounds of it, it now appears that both guys could be discussed in the amateur section of this forum, it was a legitimate contest.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 11 Jul 2004, 10:13

I didn't see it. Do either of them have a realistic chance of turning professional? Or at least turning professional and gaining success?

glittermonkey · Post by **glittermonkey** » 11 Jul 2004, 10:47

The Original Hurricane wrote:I didn't see it. Do either of them have a realistic chance of turning professional? Or at least turning professional and gaining success?

No. Not a chance. Not ever. They did well considering they only had a small amount of time to prepare, but there was no natural talent shown from either of them. Owen was knackered after the first round, and Fogle's footwork was so bad it was untrue. I'd go so far as to say that Gervais (?spelling?) vs Bovey was a better display of boxing.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 11 Jul 2004, 11:40

Will Gervais is a natural athlete. I'm serious. I can't think of anybody other then maybe Butterbean that his natural ability.

Matchfixer · Post by **Matchfixer** » 11 Jul 2004, 11:51

glittermonkey wrote:
The Original Hurricane wrote:I didn't see it. Do either of them have a realistic chance of turning professional? Or at least turning professional and gaining success?
No. Not a chance. Not ever. They did well considering they only had a small amount of time to prepare, but there was no natural talent shown from either of them. Owen was knackered after the first round, and Fogle's footwork was so bad it was untrue. I'd go so far as to say that Gervais (?spelling?) vs Bovey was a better display of boxing.

Totally disagree with the opinion that Gervais v Bovey was a better display of boxing. Fogle put out a nice jab here and there which Owen walked onto several times.

glittermonkey · Post by **glittermonkey** » 11 Jul 2004, 12:08

Matchfixer wrote:
glittermonkey wrote:
The Original Hurricane wrote:I didn't see it. Do either of them have a realistic chance of turning professional? Or at least turning professional and gaining success?
No. Not a chance. Not ever. They did well considering they only had a small amount of time to prepare, but there was no natural talent shown from either of them. Owen was knackered after the first round, and Fogle's footwork was so bad it was untrue. I'd go so far as to say that Gervais (?spelling?) vs Bovey was a better display of boxing.
Totally disagree with the opinion that Gervais v Bovey was a better display of boxing. Fogle put out a nice jab here and there which Owen walked onto several times.

Several times might be stretching it a little. He only landed it a few times, and that was when Owen was totally out on his feet. Bovey managed to do much the same thing to Gervais towards the end of their bout. Both poor, but as i said Bovey vs Gervais just edged it.

neil r · Post by **neil r** » 11 Jul 2004, 12:11

Let me just clarify something here.

We are talking about a one off mickey mouse 'charity' display between a z-list celebrity and a 'tim nice but dim hooray henry'?

Matchfixer · Post by **Matchfixer** » 11 Jul 2004, 12:12

glittermonkey wrote:
Matchfixer wrote:
glittermonkey wrote: No. Not a chance. Not ever. They did well considering they only had a small amount of time to prepare, but there was no natural talent shown from either of them. Owen was knackered after the first round, and Fogle's footwork was so bad it was untrue. I'd go so far as to say that Gervais (?spelling?) vs Bovey was a better display of boxing.
Totally disagree with the opinion that Gervais v Bovey was a better display of boxing. Fogle put out a nice jab here and there which Owen walked onto several times.
Several times might be stretching it a little. He only landed it a few times, and that was when Owen was totally out on his feet. Bovey managed to do much the same thing to Gervais towards the end of their bout. Both poor, but as i said Bovey vs Gervais just edged it.

The punches in Gervais v Bovey were just big swingers. At least Owen and Fogle tried to throw proper punches.

And it was at least 3 times that Owen's face landed on Fogle's jab - I have video footage