Can anyone offer some information on three light welterweights that I don’t know too much about
Terry Marsh
Loreto Garza
& J M Coggi
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Coggi was an outstanding and exciting fighter. He's very underrated, and had better HOF credentials then several fighters who have made it in already.
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Coggi was going to fight Tony Baltazar but backed out when it was time to sign the contracts, it was going to be a title fight.Seamus wrote:Coggi was an outstanding and exciting fighter. He's very underrated, and had better HOF credentials then several fighters who have made it in already.
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Marsh was a cagey, calculating boxer in the stand-up british style. He was a fireman for a while whilst he was boxing.
He beat the best of British (and there were some skilled operators in the division at the time). Then the best of Europe. The much under-appreciated Nkalankete probably gave him his hardest fight. Nkalankete was one of those fighters whose record doesn't do him justice. I remember that fight and it was probably Terry's hardest.
Then in his title fights Marsh became an aggressive swarmer. It was quite a surprise for him to change style like that.
It seemed that he was building up to a fight with Camacho who was at the fights and interviewed on British TV.
Marsh then retired citing epilepsy as the reason. He had a bitter row with promoter allegedly. Warren was later shot and Marsh was a key suspect.
Top boxrec poster Terence Dooley did an interview with Marsh. I believe he went on to become a stockbroker.
He beat the best of British (and there were some skilled operators in the division at the time). Then the best of Europe. The much under-appreciated Nkalankete probably gave him his hardest fight. Nkalankete was one of those fighters whose record doesn't do him justice. I remember that fight and it was probably Terry's hardest.
Then in his title fights Marsh became an aggressive swarmer. It was quite a surprise for him to change style like that.
It seemed that he was building up to a fight with Camacho who was at the fights and interviewed on British TV.
Marsh then retired citing epilepsy as the reason. He had a bitter row with promoter allegedly. Warren was later shot and Marsh was a key suspect.
Top boxrec poster Terence Dooley did an interview with Marsh. I believe he went on to become a stockbroker.
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Garza was a talked about fighter at one time, but then suffered a crushing KO loss in a big upset to Edwin Rosario, who was past his prime and coming up in weight, and after that never really figured much into discussions again.
Coggi was around for a long time but never really a high profile fighter. I always suspected he was one of those fighters whose numbers were better than he was, like Yori Boy Campas, but I know people who followed him more closely than I did for most of his career feel he was underrated. His most memorable fights were against fellow veteran Frankie Randall, when Randall was looking to regain his title after being screwed against Chavez. The first fight was an all-out war in which both fighters hit the canvas, but Randall finished strong to take the decision. In the second fight, Coggi pulled some kind of bitch move and was able to regain his title on some kind of foul or technical decision - shades of Randall's loss to Chavez. Randall got a rubber match and beat him on another decision, after which I don't remember much else about Coggi.
Coggi was around for a long time but never really a high profile fighter. I always suspected he was one of those fighters whose numbers were better than he was, like Yori Boy Campas, but I know people who followed him more closely than I did for most of his career feel he was underrated. His most memorable fights were against fellow veteran Frankie Randall, when Randall was looking to regain his title after being screwed against Chavez. The first fight was an all-out war in which both fighters hit the canvas, but Randall finished strong to take the decision. In the second fight, Coggi pulled some kind of bitch move and was able to regain his title on some kind of foul or technical decision - shades of Randall's loss to Chavez. Randall got a rubber match and beat him on another decision, after which I don't remember much else about Coggi.
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Regarding Coggi, I've read that he hailed from the same town as Carlos Monzon, and that, upon winning the WBA crown for the first time, he was called a national hero by the Argentine president and had dinner at the presidential palace. He didn't have much of a following in the States, but he was huge in Argentina. He was either a champion or in the the title picture for a decade, and to my knowledge he was never knocked out in over seventy pro bouts.
Regarding Garza, didn't he have a win over Pazienza? If I recall, Pazienza was DQ'd in that bout--but I could be thinking of someone else. I do recall his (Garza's) stunning loss to Rosario, who, in turn, was blasted out in one round by relative unknown (in the U.S.) Akinobu Hiranaka of Japan. Chapo looked bad in that fight.
Regarding Garza, didn't he have a win over Pazienza? If I recall, Pazienza was DQ'd in that bout--but I could be thinking of someone else. I do recall his (Garza's) stunning loss to Rosario, who, in turn, was blasted out in one round by relative unknown (in the U.S.) Akinobu Hiranaka of Japan. Chapo looked bad in that fight.
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Coggi was a solid, underrated fighter who never really fought the superstars of the division. He really had two careers.
The first lasted most of the late 1980s. He ko'd a 48-0 Patrizio Oliva, a good Italian boxer with no punch, for the WBA light welterweight title in Italy. Then he ko'd 47-1 Korean puncher Sang Ho Lee in his first defense. He outpointed Harold Brazier when Brazier was a highly-ranked light welter contender, he widely outpointed future WBA champ Akinobu Hiranaka and then did the same to former lightweight champ Jose Luis Ramirez. Finally, he gets outworked and loses a majority decision to Garza. None of those title fights were in his native Argentina.
The second career began in 2003. At 31, he re-won the title and spent most of the next few years making crappy defenses in Argentina against second-rate opposition until losing two out of three to Randall. He knocked Randall down in two of the three fights, I believe. But the one he won was kinda bogus. He knocked Randall down and later did what looked like some play acting, claiming he couldn't continue after a clash of heads. He was ahead, so he got the win. He was 34 at the time (as was Randall I believe) and clearly on the downside of his career. Unfortunately, those Randall fights were pretty much the only time many Americans saw him fight.
Garza was a bit of a mystery to me. He beat some good fighters coming up, and I remember seeing him win a war with 30-1 Frankie Warren, who was always a bear to fight. He beats Coggi in a fight in which Coggi looked a little off, but Garza deserved the decision. He won nearly every round in a defense against Pazienza, and everybody is thinking Garza is the goods. Then he gets cold-clocked by Rosario, who was a monster puncher, and that's pretty much the end of his career.
The first lasted most of the late 1980s. He ko'd a 48-0 Patrizio Oliva, a good Italian boxer with no punch, for the WBA light welterweight title in Italy. Then he ko'd 47-1 Korean puncher Sang Ho Lee in his first defense. He outpointed Harold Brazier when Brazier was a highly-ranked light welter contender, he widely outpointed future WBA champ Akinobu Hiranaka and then did the same to former lightweight champ Jose Luis Ramirez. Finally, he gets outworked and loses a majority decision to Garza. None of those title fights were in his native Argentina.
The second career began in 2003. At 31, he re-won the title and spent most of the next few years making crappy defenses in Argentina against second-rate opposition until losing two out of three to Randall. He knocked Randall down in two of the three fights, I believe. But the one he won was kinda bogus. He knocked Randall down and later did what looked like some play acting, claiming he couldn't continue after a clash of heads. He was ahead, so he got the win. He was 34 at the time (as was Randall I believe) and clearly on the downside of his career. Unfortunately, those Randall fights were pretty much the only time many Americans saw him fight.
Garza was a bit of a mystery to me. He beat some good fighters coming up, and I remember seeing him win a war with 30-1 Frankie Warren, who was always a bear to fight. He beats Coggi in a fight in which Coggi looked a little off, but Garza deserved the decision. He won nearly every round in a defense against Pazienza, and everybody is thinking Garza is the goods. Then he gets cold-clocked by Rosario, who was a monster puncher, and that's pretty much the end of his career.