Has he really improved

[observer1]

anyways I just cant belive Khan is getting out of this that easily, FFS he opened up a huge gash on Barrera's forehead by butting him in round 1, the doctor allows him to continue, Khan get fire at will since Barrera has blood flowing in his eyes, half blinded, and after round 5 doctor rules a stoppage thus going to the scorecard : well of course Khan was leading, he fought 5 rounds vs a guy who was half blind, this is total BS, the fight should be ruled a NC, but I guess that's how things go in Fwank Warren's land !
Anyways, Khan is now to fight JMM and some people are gonna be actually foolish enough to think he can compete against him...

It was accidental mate. Get over yourself

[ebeneezer]

anyways I just cant belive Khan is getting out of this that easily, FFS he opened up a huge gash on Barrera's forehead by butting him in round 1, the doctor allows him to continue, Khan get fire at will since Barrera has blood flowing in his eyes, half blinded, and after round 5 doctor rules a stoppage thus going to the scorecard : well of course Khan was leading, he fought 5 rounds vs a guy who was half blind, this is total BS, the fight should be ruled a NC, but I guess that's how things go in Fwank Warren's land !
Anyways, Khan is now to fight JMM and some people are gonna be actually foolish enough to think he can compete against him...

Khan going to fight JMM , don't hold your breath

I doubt if he'll even fight Katsidis

[coneye]

That statement is probably true , Kasidas is wild can take a punch , loves a brawl , has a ton off guts and courage , has the heart to say fack you lets do it in a kamikazi sort off way , and might even walk through Khan .
On the other hand Kasidas is slower , no where near has skillful and talent wise very limited,has virtually no defence, he is really the sort off fella that at this stage Khan should be chewing up and spitting out , Khan should be making the Kasidas's off the world look stupid.

And the fact that we all know , THEY WON'T risk it is really just a admission that there taking the piss.

[Raff The Frenchman]

anyways I just cant belive Khan is getting out of this that easily, FFS he opened up a huge gash on Barrera's forehead by butting him in round 1, the doctor allows him to continue, Khan get fire at will since Barrera has blood flowing in his eyes, half blinded, and after round 5 doctor rules a stoppage thus going to the scorecard : well of course Khan was leading, he fought 5 rounds vs a guy who was half blind, this is total BS, the fight should be ruled a NC, but I guess that's how things go in Fwank Warren's land !
Anyways, Khan is now to fight JMM and some people are gonna be actually foolish enough to think he can compete against him...

It was accidental mate. Get over yourself

It was accidental indeed, sorry for my english I should have said clash of heads, nevertheless it doesn't change much to my post, he gets away with it and acts cocky

[BABY BLUE]

anyways I just cant belive Khan is getting out of this that easily, FFS he opened up a huge gash on Barrera's forehead by butting him in round 1, the doctor allows him to continue, Khan get fire at will since Barrera has blood flowing in his eyes, half blinded, and after round 5 doctor rules a stoppage thus going to the scorecard : well of course Khan was leading, he fought 5 rounds vs a guy who was half blind, this is total BS, the fight should be ruled a NC, but I guess that's how things go in Fwank Warren's land !

how was it a head but?

no it was clash of heads .even they showed a clip when they did an interview with MAB. even he said himself. i reakon the ref should have taken a few points of khan for that terrible insident.

I just cant wiat till he fights Romovou or a diaz .thats would ko the shit out of him. then everyone will see to weather khan can make it in world champ level.

[gobbles]

anyways I just cant belive Khan is getting out of this that easily, FFS he opened up a huge gash on Barrera's forehead by butting him in round 1, the doctor allows him to continue, Khan get fire at will since Barrera has blood flowing in his eyes, half blinded, and after round 5 doctor rules a stoppage thus going to the scorecard : well of course Khan was leading, he fought 5 rounds vs a guy who was half blind, this is total BS, the fight should be ruled a NC, but I guess that's how things go in Fwank Warren's land !

how was it a head but?

no it was clash of heads .even they showed a clip when they did an interview with MAB. even he said himself. i reakon the ref should have taken a few points of khan for that terrible insident.

I just cant wiat till he fights Romovou or a diaz .thats would ko the shit out of him. then everyone will see to weather khan can make it in world champ level.

It was Barrera who came up under Khan. The issue isn't whether Khan should have had points deducted (you have got to be crazy to think that), the issue is if and when the fight should have been stopped.

[Raff The Frenchman]

and it should have, the clash of heads occuered in round 1. it should be ruled a NC, that decision of letting conitue in round4 and stopping in round5 just doesn't make sense.

[BABY BLUE]

and it should have, the clash of heads occuered in round 1. it should be ruled a NC, that decision of letting conitue in round4 and stopping in round5 just doesn't make sense.

they had to stop it as mab had alot of blood pouring down him. i jsut cant belive that ppl think khan won it in a fair match.comparing himself to pacman and how he beat man like he did. no he didnt .more like MAB had one blind eye that he could not see through at the time. if mab had not had a cut he would have ko'd amir.
well like i said khan will get ko'd again when he faces someone decent.

[gobbles]

why would they take points of khan for that? that is one of the stupidest things ive ever read on boxrec. in was clearly an accidental clash of heads on both parts. it couldve easilly have been khans head that got cut, would you want points taken of mab?

Khan did get cut, over his left eye

[J]

The usual excuse for not giving credit 'I thought he'd got ko'd and the only reason he didn't was because the fighter I picked was shot'. How about Khan made Barrera look bad? How about Barrera never did well against faster boxers in his prime?

Yes Khan was improved, tight guard, better movement, better range control and picked his punches far better. As for the 'he should have put him away', why would he when he was winning every second of every round without getting hit?

agreed i wonder what fight most were watching on here reading the posts
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he held his hands much higher tucked em back in much quicker when he threw a punch.

Even my old man who uis very much a casual fan spotted this so I find it hard to believe that those supposed hardcore fans who post here, have either got pissed as farts and missed it or hate Khan they cant bring themselves to acknowledge it.

shame.

[J]

and it should have, the clash of heads occuered in round 1. it should be ruled a NC, that decision of letting conitue in round4 and stopping in round5 just doesn't make sense.

they had to stop it as mab had alot of blood pouring down him. i jsut cant belive that ppl think khan won it in a fair match.comparing himself to pacman and how he beat man like he did. no he didnt .more like MAB had one blind eye that he could not see through at the time. if mab had not had a cut he would have ko'd amir.
well like i said khan will get ko'd again when he faces someone decent.

you keep saying that but MAB was dominated form the first bell and didnt land a punch of note.

You have nothing to base the baised opinion on and you can repeat it as much as you like mate, most will not agree.

[Counter-puncher]

I find it hard to believe that those supposed hardcore fans who post here, have either got pissed as farts and missed it or hate Khan they cant bring themselves to acknowledge it.

shame.

[sharpei_louis]

I find it hard to believe that those supposed hardcore fans who post here, have either got pissed as farts and missed it or hate Khan they cant bring themselves to acknowledge it.

shame.

Hey I'll acknowledge it, but my god it's not hard to tuck your hands up when there's no pressure coming back. It was like watching him in sparring and talking about him improving - it's a moot point until he's tested.

Khan had a much smaller and much older fighter in front of him. The headclash was clearly accidental, but if Khan couldn't stop Barrera or even wobble him in the best part of five rounds while Barrera struggled with a lot of blood in one eye, then how is he going to compete at world level? Even in the fifth, Barrera looked more likely to hurt Khan than vice versa. I could argue that his improvements defensively have detracted from his offence - surely with the advantages in the fight Khan should have been better going forward?

I just simply think it's not possible to improve Khan to the point where he will be able to compete with a live puncher. He's got a very very poor chin. The one time Barrera landed Khan looked like his legs stiffened, and there was nothing in any of the shots.

Khan may have made a marginal defensive improvement, but you're a nuthugger to come on and bang on about that, when to me the fight raised more questions than it answered. Khan may win a Warren-negotiated WBO title against an unknown/faded opponent, but I genuinely believe that people are kidding themselves to think he's got anything to beat the top boys at lightweight.

[BABY BLUE]

I find it hard to believe that those supposed hardcore fans who post here, have either got pissed as farts and missed it or hate Khan they cant bring themselves to acknowledge it.

shame.

Hey I'll acknowledge it, but my god it's not hard to tuck your hands up when there's no pressure coming back. It was like watching him in sparring and talking about him improving - it's a moot point until he's tested.

Khan had a much smaller and much older fighter in front of him. The headclash was clearly accidental, but if Khan couldn't stop Barrera or even wobble him in the best part of five rounds while Barrera struggled with a lot of blood in one eye, then how is he going to compete at world level? Even in the fifth, Barrera looked more likely to hurt Khan than vice versa. I could argue that his improvements defensively have detracted from his offence - surely with the advantages in the fight Khan should have been better going forward?

I just simply think it's not possible to improve Khan to the point where he will be able to compete with a live puncher. He's got a very very poor chin. The one time Barrera landed Khan looked like his legs stiffened, and there was nothing in any of the shots.

Khan may have made a marginal defensive improvement, but you're a nuthugger to come on and bang on about that, when to me the fight raised more questions than it answered. Khan may win a Warren-negotiated WBO title against an unknown/faded opponent, but I genuinely believe that people are kidding themselves to think he's got anything to beat the top boys at lightweight.

yes khan did wobble from barerras left hook. he would have ko'd khan if he had NO cut. you wait till khan faces someone like guzman or Katidis .he will get the fuk ko'd out of him . or romovou to add to the mix. i dont think the win was fair. never mind khan will have what coming to him when he faces a rematch with prescott.for a world title. for the WBC and IBF titles which are vacant at the moment.i hope this fight goes ahead though.

[Neil Jones Jnr]

Should have been ruled a no contest.

At the end of the day Kahn looked good, but anyone whose ever actually boxed will tell you it's easy to look good when the other guy isn half blind, and if you've got blood running into your eye you can't see out of it. Ask any person whose boxed and been cut.

Kahn didn't bothing wrong, he looked sharp, but truthfully this fight ceased to be a fair contest after the cut. If it was Kahn with the cut, the fight would have been stopped earlier and ruled a no contest. I'm positive of that.

For me we still don't know if Kahn has improved his defense enough to reach the top level, because you can't train his chin.

Kahn dominated the fight, but like I said it ceased to be a fair fight after the first round, and should have been stopped then.

Is anyone actually denying that Barrera had problems seeing? Surely not, so if you know boxing and have spent time in the gym and ring, you'll know this win means little

Cheers

N

[BABY BLUE]

Should have been ruled a no contest.

At the end of the day Kahn looked good, but anyone whose ever actually boxed will tell you it's easy to look good when the other guy isn half blind, and if you've got blood running into your eye you can't see out of it. Ask any person whose boxed and been cut.

Kahn didn't bothing wrong, he looked sharp, but truthfully this fight ceased to be a fair contest after the cut. If it was Kahn with the cut, the fight would have been stopped earlier and ruled a no contest. I'm positive of that.

For me we still don't know if Kahn has improved his defense enough to reach the top level, because you can't train his chin.

Kahn dominated the fight, but like I said it ceased to be a fair fight after the first round, and should have been stopped then.

Is anyone actually denying that Barrera had problems seeing? Surely not, so if you know boxing and have spent time in the gym and ring, you'll know this win means little

Cheers

N

yes this fight should have jsut got posponed to another date. when MAbs cut was healed.khan thinks he won that fight in a fair way. ? He could not even ko a guy who had one blind eye and who is 35 years of age.

[Neil Jones Jnr]

Should have been ruled a no contest.

At the end of the day Kahn looked good, but anyone whose ever actually boxed will tell you it's easy to look good when the other guy isn half blind, and if you've got blood running into your eye you can't see out of it. Ask any person whose boxed and been cut.

Kahn didn't bothing wrong, he looked sharp, but truthfully this fight ceased to be a fair contest after the cut. If it was Kahn with the cut, the fight would have been stopped earlier and ruled a no contest. I'm positive of that.

For me we still don't know if Kahn has improved his defense enough to reach the top level, because you can't train his chin.

Kahn dominated the fight, but like I said it ceased to be a fair fight after the first round, and should have been stopped then.

Is anyone actually denying that Barrera had problems seeing? Surely not, so if you know boxing and have spent time in the gym and ring, you'll know this win means little

Cheers

N

yes this fight should have jsut got posponed to another date. when MAbs cut was healed.khan thinks he won that fight in a fair way. ? He could not even ko a guy who had one blind eye and who is 35 years of age.

I don't really care about whether he could KO him or not to be honest. Kahn hasn't got world class power, but that doesn't mean he isn't a world class boxer.

Barrera has a good chin as showed against Marquez and Pac, and I don't think anyone is saying Kahn hits harder than those two.

If there wasn't any cut and Kahn dominated him to a points win thats still a good win in my book.

The issue is the fight in reality only lasted a minute and a half.

Kahn has great speed and anyone is going to struggle with that. But the real improvement will be if he can avoid getting caught so often, because his chin will always be awful, so the question is can he find a way to work around that and this fight didn't tell us anything about that.

It's not Kahn's fault Barrera got cut, but he's talking like the cut didn't even affect the fight which it clearly did.

[SLK]

Excatly my point , how many who have never had a fight, and never will, look awsome, in the gym hitting the bag, but can't box, and the comparason here, is that with one eye, he could'nt see out off it enabled Khan too look a lot better , just because he held his hands high , don't mean he is all off a sudden a world champion .

Don't know about anyone else , well i'm sure theres a lot on the forum have been there has well but i know i've been in that position , with a bad cut blood in the eye, ect, ect,and it DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE,

I feel like crying if I get an eyelash in my eye let alone a bucket of blood

[J]

I find it hard to believe that those supposed hardcore fans who post here, have either got pissed as farts and missed it or hate Khan they cant bring themselves to acknowledge it.

shame.

Hey I'll acknowledge it, but my god it's not hard to tuck your hands up when there's no pressure coming back. It was like watching him in sparring and talking about him improving - it's a moot point until he's tested.

Khan had a much smaller and much older fighter in front of him. The headclash was clearly accidental, but if Khan couldn't stop Barrera or even wobble him in the best part of five rounds while Barrera struggled with a lot of blood in one eye, then how is he going to compete at world level? Even in the fifth, Barrera looked more likely to hurt Khan than vice versa. I could argue that his improvements defensively have detracted from his offence - surely with the advantages in the fight Khan should have been better going forward?

I just simply think it's not possible to improve Khan to the point where he will be able to compete with a live puncher. He's got a very very poor chin. The one time Barrera landed Khan looked like his legs stiffened, and there was nothing in any of the shots.

Khan may have made a marginal defensive improvement, but you're a nuthugger to come on and bang on about that, when to me the fight raised more questions than it answered. Khan may win a Warren-negotiated WBO title against an unknown/faded opponent, but I genuinely believe that people are kidding themselves to think he's got anything to beat the top boys at lightweight.

nuthugger hardly mate never really lauded Khan as most people on here would tell you. So keep your judgemental attitude to yourself please.

I thought he looked good on sat night and I f i feel like sharing that I fornicating well will.

now back in your box.

[Counter-puncher]

nuthugger hardly mate never really lauded Khan as most people on here would tell you. So keep your judgemental attitude to yourself please.

I thought he looked good on sat night and I f i feel like sharing that I effing well will.

now back in your box.

you just don't get it still do you mate, everyone is either a nuthugger or a hater on the internet

[J]

tedious aint it how dare i have an opinion that differs from his

[Counter-puncher]

'The nerve of the man'

[Rocky Balboa]

Yes, I do think Khan has improved under Roach, but the big question is still this: What happens when he gets hit on the chin by a proper LW or LWW? I think we all know the answer to that one.

No matter how good Roach or any other trainer in the world is, I cannot see how Khan's durability will improve. Granted, it may get better if he were to move up in weight, but that's the only way. Either you can hold a shot or you can't!

Guys like JMM, Juan Diaz, Edwin Valero would hurt Khan imo!

[sharpei_louis]

The usual excuse for not giving credit 'I thought he'd got ko'd and the only reason he didn't was because the fighter I picked was shot'. How about Khan made Barrera look bad? How about Barrera never did well against faster boxers in his prime?

Yes Khan was improved, tight guard, better movement, better range control and picked his punches far better. As for the 'he should have put him away', why would he when he was winning every second of every round without getting hit?

agreed i wonder what fight most were watching on here reading the posts
.
he held his hands much higher tucked em back in much quicker when he threw a punch.

Even my old man who uis very much a casual fan spotted this so I find it hard to believe that those supposed hardcore fans who post here, have either got pissed as farts and missed it or hate Khan they cant bring themselves to acknowledge it.

shame.

Sorry for calling you a nuthugger, clearly upset you - didn't mean to.

But to then go on about MY judgemental attitude is a bit rich after you basically criticising anyone refusing to comment on his hands tucking up quicker. I think your comments were a bit more judgemental than mine, and I gave my opinion as to why other people weren't talking about minor improvements Khan may or may not have made.

What do I say now... back in your box??? DD

[J]

nah i dont get upset bout internet bollox fella.

not these days.

and no i was merely commeting that a lot of folk were saying that it was still the same khan when there were obvious improvements, i merely commented that my old man, an occasional fan could spot it I found it strange that so called hardcore fans couldnt bring themselves to give him any credit. You may say this is something he should have done but he didnt and now he does, so that an improvement n'est pas?


do you honestly think khan hasnt improved after spending time at the wildcard and mixing with pac and roach of course he has.

now jog on,.