Peter McNeeley; P4P discussion & Things we lost in the fire

[bulletproof]

Working class hero and power punching heavyweight "Hurricane" Peter McNeeley is best remembered as one of the classic 1990's icons of our sport and remains as a heavyweight question mark to thousands across the globe. Relentless aggression, powerful punching, and a tremendous right hand punch helped to shape McNeeley in the glory days of the sport of boxing. A Peter McNeeley that we would all come to know and love. McNeeley is best remembered for his controversial bout with Mike Tyson in August of 1995, a fight which could have gone either way and was stopped prematurely. McNeeley also holds notable battles with guys like: Eric Esch (L KO 1), Larry Menefee (W DQ 9), Henry Akinwande (L KO 2), Mike Bernardo (L KO 1), and Joe Siciliano (W KO 1).

Peter McNeeley exists today as largely a historical question mark within the confines of heavyweight greatness. Boxing experts are left to contemplate the validity of McNeeley as a fighter in contemporary and past heavyweight circles. Would things have been different if the Tyson fight was not stopped prematurely? Does Peter McNeeley's right hand stack up with the likes of Marciano, Norton, Foreman, and Lewis on an alltime level? Where does Peter McNeeley rank on an alltime heavyweight list? Why was there never a Tyson rematch?

By the way, here is a video which shows Peter McNeeley the man in his preparations for the Tyson fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juTpOlYoLoA

Interviewer: "If I was going to fight Mike Tyson, what would you tell me to do?"
Peter: "Well its not a matter of what I would tell you to do. It's a matter of what I am going to do."

Some boxing experts have called McNeeley one of the most "naturally talented" HW's of alltime. So much potential, and limited realization. Is Peter McNeeley an underachiever?

Peter McNeeley has captivated a generation of boxing fans and will arguably go down in history as having one of the best right hands in heavyweight boxing history. There are so many unknowns about McNeeley. How different would his career have been had he not fought Tyson in '95? Why was there never a rematch? What is everything that could have been? Ultimately we need to ask ourselves where Peter McNeeley stacks up in terms of alltime heavyweight greats? Where would you rank McNeeley on an alltime HW list? How much of his potential was actually achieved?

Where does Peter McNeeley stand on an alltime P4P list? How would you rate McNeeley's right hand in terms of alltime P4P comparison?

[Raff The Frenchman]

Mc Neeley will be remembered as one of the many clowns from Las Vegas. He had no talent, he was a bum in every true sense of the word.
the word "talended" doesn't go along with a "LTKO1" to Butterbean...

[Adamj1987]

Mc Neeley will be remembered as one of the many clowns from Las Vegas. He had no talent, he was a bum in every true sense of the word.
the word "talended" doesn't go along with a "LTKO1" to Butterbean...

haha seconded

[E]

Working class hero and power punching heavyweight "Hurricane" Peter McNeeley is best remembered as one of the classic 1990's icons of our sport and remains as a heavyweight question mark to thousands across the globe. Relentless aggression, powerful punching, and a tremendous right hand punch helped to shape McNeeley in the glory days of the sport of boxing. A Peter McNeeley that we would all come to know and love. McNeeley is best remembered for his controversial bout with Mike Tyson in August of 1995, a fight which could have gone either way and was stopped prematurely. McNeeley also holds notable battles with guys like: Eric Esch (L KO 1), Larry Menefee (W DQ 9), Henry Akinwande (L KO 2), Mike Bernardo (L KO 1), and Joe Siciliano (W KO 1).

Peter McNeeley exists today as largely a historical question mark within the confines of heavyweight greatness. Boxing experts are left to contemplate the validity of McNeeley as a fighter in contemporary and past heavyweight circles. Would things have been different if the Tyson fight was not stopped prematurely? Does Peter McNeeley's right hand stack up with the likes of Marciano, Norton, Foreman, and Lewis on an alltime level? Where does Peter McNeeley rank on an alltime heavyweight list? Why was there never a Tyson rematch?

By the way, here is a video which shows Peter McNeeley the man in his preparations for the Tyson fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juTpOlYoLoA

Interviewer: "If I was going to fight Mike Tyson, what would you tell me to do?"
Peter: "Well its not a matter of what I would tell you to do. It's a matter of what I am going to do."

Some boxing experts have called McNeeley one of the most "naturally talented" HW's of alltime. So much potential, and limited realization. Is Peter McNeeley an underachiever?

Peter McNeeley has captivated a generation of boxing fans and will arguably go down in history as having one of the best right hands in heavyweight boxing history. There are so many unknowns about McNeeley. How different would his career have been had he not fought Tyson in '95? Why was there never a rematch? What is everything that could have been? Ultimately we need to ask ourselves where Peter McNeeley stacks up in terms of alltime heavyweight greats? Where would you rank McNeeley on an alltime HW list? How much of his potential was actually achieved?

Where does Peter McNeeley stand on an alltime P4P list? How would you rate McNeeley's right hand in terms of alltime P4P comparison?

This guy is obviously taking the piss. Fairly funny.

To answer the question, I make McNeely my 187,001 P4P fighter ever - by default; as as I found the 187,000th better fighter than him; I couldn't justify wasting any more of my time trawling through bums with negative records.

I think he would fare better on the P4P Mullet list - I think he would rate betweem Troy Dorsey and Tommy Morrison - what do others think?


Postscript - to my horror, I just looked at PEter's record and realised he beat a former world champion twice. The admittedly very poor former light heavy champ JB williamson.

[HPI]

P4P and Peter McNeeley dont belong in the same sentance. Unless it is this one.

P4P no one has ever shit so many bricks in a boxing ring than Peter McNeeley did the night he fought Mike Tyson

[mike john]

hes best known for wrapping Mike Tyson in a cocoon of horror

[HPI]

I think he would fare better on the P4P Mullet list - I think he would rate betweem Troy Dorsey and Tommy Morrison - what do others think?

Pat Sharpe would decision him after a tough 12 rnds of Mullet Play

[Raff The Frenchman]

besides he ressembles more of a big homosexual bear hunk than a boxer...

[gregor]

I thought it is still some time before 1st of April Anyway, the idea of including McNeeley in P4P list will be hard to beat.

Well, to say something good about him, at least he was not afraid of Tyson and didn't use the opportunity to quit when he was down (like a lot of boxers much better than he).

[gb]

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]Would things have been different if the Tyson fight was not stopped prematurely?

Big Pete would have smashed him to bits!

[BoxBuzz]

I have been puzzling over what the words "Could have gone either way" mean, in reference to the Tyson bout?

Best I can figure is that it refers to the 50/50 chance McNeely had of making it out alive.

Any other theories on this one?

[JAHamilton77]

hes best known for wrapping Mike Tyson in a cocoon of horror

I just found the audio clip from the press conference.....

I'm Hurricane Peter McNeeley from Medfield Mass
On Saturday night, watch me kick Tyson's ass
If you haven't made your pay per view arrangments yet... make them soon
Cause remember what happens when I wrap you in my cocoon

[JAHamilton77]

you think Tyson thought McNeeley was calling him a coon, after that poem?

[enrique]

Bulletproof, whatever you've been smoking, I'll buy a lid.

Mc Neeley would rank as number 67,876 among 68,000 heavyweights. Maybe lower.

In any era he would have been a 4 round prelim fighter and a losing one.

His decent record was compiled by beating out of shape third raters.

[observer1]

I'd tell you one thing, he'd probably clean up today's HW Division imo

Maybe not the Klitkcho's but would give guys like Valuev a fit imo

[enrique]

The only cleaning up Mcneeley would do is with a mop and broom if he was working as a janitor.

[HomicideHenry]

Even in today's piss poor HW division, I dont see McNeeley making waves of any kind. He'd be lucky, for me to even have him along side the likes of Skelton, Drummond, and other recent title challengers. His father, Tom, was the better of the two, and would have handed his son an ass whooping. Now, I like McNeeley, because he is one hell of a story teller and likeable guy, as well as an entertaining puncher among the state/regional level, but he'll even admit he wasn't a national, let alone international level fighter.

[dempseyfire]

hes best known for wrapping Mike Tyson in a cocoon of horror

Haha, that remains perhaps my favorite boxing qoute of all-time . . .you can't make stuff like that up!

[E]

hes best known for wrapping Mike Tyson in a cocoon of horror

Haha, that remains perhaps my favorite boxing qoute of all-time . . .you can't make stuff like that up!

I agree that quote is excellent....I forget it sometimes an when I read it again, I have to crack a laugh

[Dart340]

Fabulous post.

Well written and made me laugh. And you kept the sarcasm disguised enough that some folks weren't sure if you were being serious or not or perhaps needed serious mental health assistance.

[turn2stone]

great post ! good laughs. it took me into paragraph two before i caught on.

[oliverfennell]

hes best known for wrapping Mike Tyson in a cocoon of horror

Haha, that remains perhaps my favorite boxing qoute of all-time . . .you can't make stuff like that up!

I agree that quote is excellent....I forget it sometimes an when I read it again, I have to crack a laugh

That, and Bobby Gunn being the most ferocious fighter since Jack Dempsey.

[Carbo]

Working class hero and power punching heavyweight "Hurricane" Peter McNeeley is best remembered as one of the classic 1990's icons of our sport and remains as a heavyweight question mark to thousands across the globe. Relentless aggression, powerful punching, and a tremendous right hand punch helped to shape McNeeley in the glory days of the sport of boxing. A Peter McNeeley that we would all come to know and love. McNeeley is best remembered for his controversial bout with Mike Tyson in August of 1995, a fight which could have gone either way and was stopped prematurely. McNeeley also holds notable battles with guys like: Eric Esch (L KO 1), Larry Menefee (W DQ 9), Henry Akinwande (L KO 2), Mike Bernardo (L KO 1), and Joe Siciliano (W KO 1).

Peter McNeeley exists today as largely a historical question mark within the confines of heavyweight greatness. Boxing experts are left to contemplate the validity of McNeeley as a fighter in contemporary and past heavyweight circles. Would things have been different if the Tyson fight was not stopped prematurely? Does Peter McNeeley's right hand stack up with the likes of Marciano, Norton, Foreman, and Lewis on an alltime level? Where does Peter McNeeley rank on an alltime heavyweight list? Why was there never a Tyson rematch?

By the way, here is a video which shows Peter McNeeley the man in his preparations for the Tyson fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juTpOlYoLoA

Interviewer: "If I was going to fight Mike Tyson, what would you tell me to do?"
Peter: "Well its not a matter of what I would tell you to do. It's a matter of what I am going to do."

Some boxing experts have called McNeeley one of the most "naturally talented" HW's of alltime. So much potential, and limited realization. Is Peter McNeeley an underachiever?

Peter McNeeley has captivated a generation of boxing fans and will arguably go down in history as having one of the best right hands in heavyweight boxing history. There are so many unknowns about McNeeley. How different would his career have been had he not fought Tyson in '95? Why was there never a rematch? What is everything that could have been? Ultimately we need to ask ourselves where Peter McNeeley stacks up in terms of alltime heavyweight greats? Where would you rank McNeeley on an alltime HW list? How much of his potential was actually achieved?

Where does Peter McNeeley stand on an alltime P4P list? How would you rate McNeeley's right hand in terms of alltime P4P comparison?

Never mind Peter McNeeley, I vote this post as the greatest of all time.

Genius.

[BoxBuzz]

Yep, a great work of fiction is hard to come by!

[Counter-puncher]

Working class hero and power punching heavyweight "Hurricane" Peter McNeeley is best remembered as one of the classic 1990's icons of our sport and remains as a heavyweight question mark to thousands across the globe. Relentless aggression, powerful punching, and a tremendous right hand punch helped to shape McNeeley in the glory days of the sport of boxing. A Peter McNeeley that we would all come to know and love. McNeeley is best remembered for his controversial bout with Mike Tyson in August of 1995, a fight which could have gone either way and was stopped prematurely. McNeeley also holds notable battles with guys like: Eric Esch (L KO 1), Larry Menefee (W DQ 9), Henry Akinwande (L KO 2), Mike Bernardo (L KO 1), and Joe Siciliano (W KO 1).

Peter McNeeley exists today as largely a historical question mark within the confines of heavyweight greatness. Boxing experts are left to contemplate the validity of McNeeley as a fighter in contemporary and past heavyweight circles. Would things have been different if the Tyson fight was not stopped prematurely? Does Peter McNeeley's right hand stack up with the likes of Marciano, Norton, Foreman, and Lewis on an alltime level? Where does Peter McNeeley rank on an alltime heavyweight list? Why was there never a Tyson rematch?

By the way, here is a video which shows Peter McNeeley the man in his preparations for the Tyson fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juTpOlYoLoA

Interviewer: "If I was going to fight Mike Tyson, what would you tell me to do?"
Peter: "Well its not a matter of what I would tell you to do. It's a matter of what I am going to do."

Some boxing experts have called McNeeley one of the most "naturally talented" HW's of alltime. So much potential, and limited realization. Is Peter McNeeley an underachiever?

Peter McNeeley has captivated a generation of boxing fans and will arguably go down in history as having one of the best right hands in heavyweight boxing history. There are so many unknowns about McNeeley. How different would his career have been had he not fought Tyson in '95? Why was there never a rematch? What is everything that could have been? Ultimately we need to ask ourselves where Peter McNeeley stacks up in terms of alltime heavyweight greats? Where would you rank McNeeley on an alltime HW list? How much of his potential was actually achieved?

Where does Peter McNeeley stand on an alltime P4P list? How would you rate McNeeley's right hand in terms of alltime P4P comparison?

classic, i don't normally commend trolls but you are p4p amongst trolls sir