So Naz is definitely never coming back...

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banjo wrote:
No, and I hope he doesn't. Naz was one of my favourite fighters when I was growing up and I'd hate to see him lose to somebody he would have smashed in his prime.
People are saying that already happend in his career. Personally I don't think so.
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He's walking around at Super Middle... Naz vs Calzaghe - another legend for Joe to beat
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stujones wrote:
banjo wrote:
No, and I hope he doesn't. Naz was one of my favourite fighters when I was growing up and I'd hate to see him lose to somebody he would have smashed in his prime.
People are saying that already happend in his career. Personally I don't think so.
No what I mean is losing to a domestic or Euro level fighter rather than a man regarded as one of the top fighters of the last 10 years.
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Naz was one of the guys who hooked me onto watching more boxing from being a casual fan previously..but he definently should not come back, he had his chance and glory plus the money. It was obvious the guy had no desire left in him in the Barerra fight and the one after.. I hated him for his ridicilous entrances and disrespect of opponents at time and loved the way he fought , reflex based..he was one of a kind but I think his sheart broke after the barerra fight and combined with lack of motivation he did the right thing and quit.. We can extrapolate say that a Naz with fire still in his belly and Ingle in his corner would have beaten Barerra or given a better account but we have to go by facts, he got schooled. It was alos the first time he faced someone elite IMO and did not have a plan from what I could see..he thought his power will take him through...
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NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
BABY BLUE wrote: you got young amir khan now. who wants naz.
another totally thick post !!

why Amir Khan?? Are you saying we've got Arab looking boxer, why do we need two?? Or are you basing your comparison on a SINGLE other factor aside from similar appearance.

If you were you could have said a young Kevin Mitchell, Don Broadhurst Paul Appleby, or whoever.

What a stupid post - Moderators have a look at this chap eh?

I was beginning to think BB is an ex jilted GF of Khan's from his numerous posts :p
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I dont think he should fight again he will never make the weight again he looks huge
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Hamed's ego proved to be so fragile that Barrera ruined him as a fighter. I can't see how that same ego would let him get into a ring years past his best without the reflexes that made him so formidable. And I can't see him regaining the work ethic it would take to get into even half-decent shape.
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MecnunK wrote:Naz was one of the guys who hooked me onto watching more boxing from being a casual fan previously..but he definently should not come back, he had his chance and glory plus the money. It was obvious the guy had no desire left in him in the Barerra fight and the one after.. I hated him for his ridicilous entrances and disrespect of opponents at time and loved the way he fought , reflex based..he was one of a kind but I think his sheart broke after the barerra fight and combined with lack of motivation he did the right thing and quit.. We can extrapolate say that a Naz with fire still in his belly and Ingle in his corner would have beaten Barerra or given a better account but we have to go by facts, he got schooled. It was alos the first time he faced someone elite IMO and did not have a plan from what I could see..he thought his power will take him through...
it's about the full package though isn't it.

Skill, fitness, power, determination, tactics. You need all 5 and Barrera brought them , Naz didn't. For me Barrera goes down as the better of the two in history books.
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Matt W wrote:Hamed's ego proved to be so fragile that Barrera ruined him as a fighter. I can't see how that same ego would let him get into a ring years past his best without the reflexes that made him so formidable. And I can't see him regaining the work ethic it would take to get into even half-decent shape.
good post. :TU:
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MecnunK wrote:
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
BABY BLUE wrote: you got young amir khan now. who wants naz.
another totally thick post !!

why Amir Khan?? Are you saying we've got Arab looking boxer, why do we need two?? Or are you basing your comparison on a SINGLE other factor aside from similar appearance.

If you were you could have said a young Kevin Mitchell, Don Broadhurst Paul Appleby, or whoever.

What a stupid post - Moderators have a look at this chap eh?

I was beginning to think BB is an ex jilted GF of Khan's from his numerous posts :p
:lol:

I've just put this up so he sees it :lol: - and to fore warn others about him!!
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Comparisons between Naz and Khan are lazy at worst; I don't really see them as sinister. It's the same sort of thing as white American heavyweights getting compared to Gerry Cooney et al.
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LONDON, March 27, 2009 (AFP) _ Pop star Robbie Williams said he is ready to rejoin 1990s British boyband sensation Take That, a newspaper reported Friday.
``I'm in regular contact with them and it's looking more likely by the week. The lads all seem up for it. I think it would be fun,'' he told the Sun.
Williams quit the group in 1995 to launch a solo career, sparking a major feud with the other bandmates that lasted most of the next decade.
Take That re-formed without Williams in 2005 and have revived some of their old success. Last year he announced they had all been playing together _ but said he still had things to achieve on his own before an official reunion.
Williams told the Sun, however, that the group could get back together within months, saying: ``Let's see what happens, but my head's in the right place, so the timing could be right if (bandmate) Gary (Barlow) calls.''
Take That would be following a well-trodden path if they get back together, after a surge of nostalgia comebacks including the Spice Girls, the Police, the Sex Pistols, Blur, Spandau Ballet and Led Zeppelin.
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oliverfennell wrote:Comparisons between Naz and Khan are lazy at worst; I don't really see them as sinister. It's the same sort of thing as white American heavyweights getting compared to Gerry Cooney et al.
There's another point: the 22 year old Naz was way, way better. And you're right, to a certain degree, about white fighters, or Asian-looking fighters being grouped together. It's natural to compare, because they have the same skin colour, which might stand out from the norm. However, I do think we should be ultra careful about succuming to grouping fighters together based on race in that way. It's the slippery path to racial stereotyping.
oliverfennell wrote:
LONDON, March 27, 2009 (AFP) _ Pop star Robbie Williams said he is ready to rejoin 1990s British boyband sensation Take That, a newspaper reported Friday.
``I'm in regular contact with them and it's looking more likely by the week. The lads all seem up for it. I think it would be fun,'' he told the Sun.
Williams quit the group in 1995 to launch a solo career, sparking a major feud with the other bandmates that lasted most of the next decade.
Take That re-formed without Williams in 2005 and have revived some of their old success. Last year he announced they had all been playing together _ but said he still had things to achieve on his own before an official reunion.
Williams told the Sun, however, that the group could get back together within months, saying: ``Let's see what happens, but my head's in the right place, so the timing could be right if (bandmate) Gary (Barlow) calls.''
Take That would be following a well-trodden path if they get back together, after a surge of nostalgia comebacks including the Spice Girls, the Police, the Sex Pistols, Blur, Spandau Ballet and Led Zeppelin.
That's just ugly.

Why are Payne and Fennell taking such glee in this? I'm starting to worry about those two.

How's life in Thailand, Oliver?
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