Most inconsistent fighter

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Most inconsistent fighter

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Im after your recommendations for the most inconsistent fighter.

Off the top of my head Im going to pick former lightweight Freddie Pendleton. Freddie retired with a 47-26-5 (34kos) record.

After a poor amateur stint which ended with a 1-5 record his turned pro, losing his debut and was 2-4 after 6 pro fights. He did win a world title though and beat some good fighters, Roger Mayweather WKO 6, Tyrone Trice WTKO 1, Livingstone Bramble WTKO 10, Jorge Paez WPTS 10 and others.

He looked great in some fights but also had more than his fair share of losses.

Any others?
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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James Toney
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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..jimmy carter
...johnny bratton
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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Battling Battalino.

Beat definite HOFers like Kid Chocolate, Fidel LaBarba, and Freddie Miller in title defenses, among others, but in between he dropped non-title fights like crazy.
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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Carter and Battalino are good examples. Other guys that come to mind are Johnnie Risko and Fritzie Zivic.

Risko beat Loughran, Baer, Schaaf, Sharkey and Godfrey. He also managed to lose to many guys most of us have probably never heard of.

Zivic beat Burley, Angott, Armstrong, Jenkins and La Motta. He also managed to lose to literally dozens of ordinary fighters.
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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Dunno what people exactly mean by inconsistant, I think a better word or phrase for it is being "hot and cold", if so, Hasim Rahman is right up there for inconsistency. Max Baer was another, who would look like a million bucks one night and the next look less than ordinary. Buster Douglas was the same way.

As far as being the ATG title holder for this subject, thats a tough one. IMO, though, one of the more "hot and cold" fighters of all time (least at HW) was Jack Sharkey. Now, in all of boxing, I'm leaning more toward 'Caveman' Bob Moha, whose inconsistency was more from his lack of interest in fighting than anything else; he would get a HUGE win, then take time off, come back, lose, then have a few good wins, take time off so long he'd be out of contention again, then come back.

There's lots of men who were like this, but it was Moha's own fault, that and his inability to make weight, that tarnished his career.
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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Zab Judah
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Just remembered Steve 'The Cinderalla Man' Robinson, the Brit featherweight. He came in as a 2 day substitute to fight for the WBO title. With his 13-9-1 record he wasn't given much chance. Robinson won the title by UD and then made 7 successful defences before being flattened by Prince Naseem Hamed.
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How about Marcos Geraldo?

Tough distance loser to SRL and MMH in their primes

Loses KO By 1 to Hearns and Caveman Lee
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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Iran Barkley.
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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HomicideHenry wrote:Hasim Rahman is right up there for inconsistency.
Not sure about that. He was more of a one-hit wonder, and even in beating Lewis it was more of a one-shot win than a particularly hot performance. Sanders was a good win but that's not an A-list scalp. Rahman looked good against Tua but still couldn't quite get the wins. Either side of these performances, there's not a lot to get excited about.
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Andrew Golota -

- looks great against Bowe then gets disqualified
- gets destroyed by Lennox Lewis in one round
- gets knocked down by Tyson, performs better in the second round, then quits
- up in all of the scorecards vs Grant, gets knocks down and quits
- draws with Chris Byrd
- grabfest with Ruiz, after having him down
- gets KTFO by Lamon Brewster in 1 round
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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Controversial wrote: Any others?
- Not surprisingly nobody dares mention Saint Ali who walks on water and floats on hubris all while curing young teen boys of their pimples by consensus.

Any inconsistencies in his first go round could be attributed to inexperience. He always showed up in shape, ready to fight and made adjustments as needed.

2nd go round sees him as up and down as his weight, sometimes not even looking for a fight as much as a soft purple velvety Churchillian fainting couch to take a nap on. Worse in the Buster Mathis fight where he does try hard but sees them both needing oxygen and IVs in the middle of the bout with Buster damn near a pool of melted chocolate by end.

It was as if he knew deep down he was going to become bigger than boxing and couldn't be bothered with minor details like always showing up in shape to fight.
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BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:
- Not surprisingly nobody dares mention Saint Ali
It's just that not all of us are obsessed with Ali. Unlike you.
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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Dokes
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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Jerry Quarry.
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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At a lower level, Danny Williams. At his best, destroys an admittedly ageing but seemingly on-form Tyson, ends the unbeaten runs of Harrison and Skelton, KOs Kali Meehan in half a minute, literally wins a fight with one arm in a legendary finish vs Potter. Late in his career exposed a string of European prospects (Gammer, Airich, Platov. But too often would be fat and/or undermotivated and/or racked with self-doubt, resulting in desultory losses to Samil Sam and, significantly, in rematches against men he'd already beaten in Sprott, Skelton and Harrison. Also been through life and death with inferior talents such as McDermott, Long, Mirovic.
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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Its hard for me to pick a favourite decade, but mid 50s to early 00s
always entertain me.
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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generic screen name wrote:Andrew Golota -

- looks great against Bowe then gets disqualified
- gets destroyed by Lennox Lewis in one round
- gets knocked down by Tyson, performs better in the second round, then quits
- up in all of the scorecards vs Grant, gets knocks down and quits
- draws with Chris Byrd
- grabfest with Ruiz, after having him down
- gets KTFO by Lamon Brewster in 1 round
First name that popped into my head as well. How history may have judged him had the 1st Bowe fight gone a different way..
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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Good call.

Golota is a guy that when I am watching him fight, I struggle to
define him to either my brother or GF.

I suppose that simple word, inconsistent is most perfect for him.


At his best what a terror and a threat to most men in the gloved
arena.

At his worst, what a nightmare to boxing.
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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Evander Holyfield

Whatever his circumstance may be whether it's hepatitis,age or steroids you never know who's going to show up.

He get's embarassed by Toney and Donald and almost becomes the oldest champion in history against Valuev, years back he looked like crap against Moorer only to come back to regain his title.
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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John Galt wrote:Jerry Quarry.
How so?
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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Golota has consistently lost to any top notch comp he faced . . .I think that's being fairly consistent, regardless of how he was doing in some fights before losing.
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Re: Most inconsistent fighter

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BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:
Controversial wrote: Any others?
- Not surprisingly nobody dares mention Saint Ali who walks on water and floats on hubris all while curing young teen boys of their pimples by consensus.

Any inconsistencies in his first go round could be attributed to inexperience. He always showed up in shape, ready to fight and made adjustments as needed.

2nd go round sees him as up and down as his weight, sometimes not even looking for a fight as much as a soft purple velvety Churchillian fainting couch to take a nap on. Worse in the Buster Mathis fight where he does try hard but sees them both needing oxygen and IVs in the middle of the bout with Buster damn near a pool of melted chocolate by end.

It was as if he knew deep down he was going to become bigger than boxing and couldn't be bothered with minor details like always showing up in shape to fight.
Ali 1972 onwards, with the odd exception, was hugely inconsistent. You beat me to it. I was gonna mention him, but thought I'd get hammered.

I made the point that Eubank could be equally inconsitent at times. Exasperatingly boring and unbothered one minute, breathtakingly brave and tough the next.
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