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dagosd2000 wrote:Bennie
Here in the colonies we're always tearing down historical landmarks. They're starting to raze the old Yankee Stadium. This is our most famous out door arena for sporting events. The Yankees with Ruth and Gehrig. The Louis/Schmeling fight. The 'sudden death' playoff between the Colts and the Giants.

My understanding is the old treasure didn't have room to build enough corporate sky boxes. They are building a new Yankee Stadium across the street. There'll be plenty of sky boxes,hotel rooms,shops,and spas in the new one. I've never attended a game with the thought of frequenting a spa. Besides,it's hard to throw beer from inside a sauna. :D
In some awful way,I loved Veterans Stadium,I saw my first pro baseball game there in 1976,it was an s-hole,but it was Philly's s-hole.
We used to call it the giant septic tank,but some of my fondest fan experiences are at the vet
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Trainer Monkey wrote:I know he's in Mexico City right now,but he's originally from Oxnard,anybody have a direct contact phone number for Abel Ochoa? Im trying to get the Tamaras fight booked. I know he's pissed off,that they tried to low ball him on the original offer,but I was able to get him more money,and now I cant freaking get ahold of him.
I know its a long shot,but this seemed like the most appropriate spot to ask,Id hate for the kid to loose a shot at the WBO and WBC Latino titles because I cant get ahold of him.
Speaking of which,Ive got to brush up on my Spanish,because currently Mi Espanol est muy feo,Habla espanol,muy poco,and everyone Im dealing with in the higher ranks is of some Spanish descent.
Mind you,its easier then calling Ireland,I cant understand a damned word those guys are saying :DDD

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I'm with you on the understanding of the Irish. I speak English,OK Spanish,but trying to comprehend the Irish is like Japanese to me. Trying to understand the Scots is like Chinese. :lol:
No kidding,every time someone tells me I have to call Ireland,you can just see my shoulders slump,and I let out a deep exhale,because I know the words are going to be "Excuse me" alot.
This week Ive dealt with an Ortiz,a Rodriguez,Hernandez's people,a Carlos,a Melendez,no freaking problems,nice easy communication. I see Ive got to call an O'anything,I allmost want to cry.
Between the s-y phone service an an accent thick enough you could break stones on it,I cant understand anything.

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One time I tried to read Paradise Lost by John Milton. This chap was English. I couldn't get through the first page.Couldn't understand a word. Then I figured out why. I was holding the book upside down. I turned the book right side up and began again. Still couldn't get through the first page without getting eye stress. Decided it was better to admit that I was guilty of illiteracy than trying to read through something I couldn't understand. I didn't want to tell anyone that I had read Paradise Lost and then have them ask me what it was about.
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Trainer Monkey wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Bennie
Here in the colonies we're always tearing down historical landmarks. They're starting to raze the old Yankee Stadium. This is our most famous out door arena for sporting events. The Yankees with Ruth and Gehrig. The Louis/Schmeling fight. The 'sudden death' playoff between the Colts and the Giants.

My understanding is the old treasure didn't have room to build enough corporate sky boxes. They are building a new Yankee Stadium across the street. There'll be plenty of sky boxes,hotel rooms,shops,and spas in the new one. I've never attended a game with the thought of frequenting a spa. Besides,it's hard to throw beer from inside a sauna. :D
In some awful way,I loved Veterans Stadium,I saw my first pro baseball game there in 1976,it was an s-hole,but it was Philly's s-hole.
We used to call it the giant septic tank,but some of my fondest fan experiences are at the vet
We have a new ball park in San Diego called Pet Co Park. The problem is the baseball team stinks(The Padres). After two or three innings you start looking around at this marvelous modern construction. Then you order a beer and they want 9 bucks. No wonder everything looks so marvelous.
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dagosd2000 wrote:
Trainer Monkey wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Bennie
Here in the colonies we're always tearing down historical landmarks. They're starting to raze the old Yankee Stadium. This is our most famous out door arena for sporting events. The Yankees with Ruth and Gehrig. The Louis/Schmeling fight. The 'sudden death' playoff between the Colts and the Giants.

My understanding is the old treasure didn't have room to build enough corporate sky boxes. They are building a new Yankee Stadium across the street. There'll be plenty of sky boxes,hotel rooms,shops,and spas in the new one. I've never attended a game with the thought of frequenting a spa. Besides,it's hard to throw beer from inside a sauna. :D
In some awful way,I loved Veterans Stadium,I saw my first pro baseball game there in 1976,it was an s-hole,but it was Philly's s-hole.
We used to call it the giant septic tank,but some of my fondest fan experiences are at the vet
We have a new ball park in San Diego called Pet Co Park. The problem is the baseball team stinks(The Padres). After two or three innings you start looking around at this marvelous modern construction. Then you order a beer and they want 9 bucks. No wonder everything looks so marvelous.
On the rare occaision I get to go to a game anymore,I have no problem being the designated driver,its not like I can afford more then two beers anyway.
Hell I booked a PPV fight last month and couldnt afford to go to it,and it was my wife that was fighting. Money be tight,and times be tight.
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dagosd2000 wrote:Bennie
Did you ever see a fight at Albert Hall? When I watch Hitchcock's "The Man Who Knew Too Much",the scene at Albert Hall where the attempted assassination takes place is fascinating. Too bad Hitch couldn't have directed a movie involving boxing at Albert Hall. Looks like a beautifull theater.
Many times, Rog. It is an unbelievable venue. There is not a bad seat in the house. They don't stage boxing there any more, however, which is a great shame.
I watched Honeyghan fight there and Mike McCallum.
No more British boxing at the Royal Albert Hall?? :o :o Is nothing sacred?? :o :o
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Cheers! Prost! Salud! Dude? An ascendant craft-beer culture is brewing in Southern California. If there was any doubt about that after the rise of Father’s Office, Lucky Baldwin’s and their ilk, now the Los Angeles area has two (count 'em, suds sippers, two) beer festivals taking microbrews macro over the next two months.

The first, the L.A. Beer Festival, raises its glass this Saturday and Sunday afternoons at Sony Studios in Culver City. Then, on May 9, the Los Angeles Craft and Artisanal Beer Appreciation League’s (LA CABAL) Craft Beer Fest L.A. pops its tops at the Echoplex.

The two first-time events developed independently of each other. “I had no idea [Craft Beer Fest L.A.] even existed,” said L.A. Beer Festival organizer Dan Silberstein. LA CABAL member Kevin Kansky, of craft-beer boutique distributor Artisan Ales, said his group scheduled its festival before it heard of the other event, but he isn’t worried. “I don’t think there’s going to be beer festival overload,” he said.

This weekend’s L.A. Beer Festival involves more than 50 breweries. Each day’s $40 admission covers unlimited four-ounce tastings and live music (tribute bands rule the weekend: Petty Cash -- that’s right, Tom Petty and Johnny Cash -- plays Saturday, and Hollywood U2 gets epic on Sunday). Food items -- including wings and other finger foods from Wolfgang Puck Catering, and pulled pork sandwiches, Italian sausages and meatball skewers from Cannoli Kings Catering, plus desserts by 2008 Cupcake Challenge “best original” winner Sugar Jones-- will be in the $5 to $10 range, Silberstein said.

Planning began with a focus on regional beers from San Diego to Santa Barbara but expanded to any brewery that wanted to participate, Silberstein said. That includes familiar names such as Anheuser-Busch, Pabst, Bass and Stella Artois, but the majority of brews are from smaller outfits, many based in Southern California, including Torrance's Angel City, El Monte's Skyscraper, Newport Beach Brewing Co., Fullerton’s Bootlegger’s Brewery, Redlands’ Hangar 24, San Clemente’s Left Coast Brewing Co., Placentia’s Bruery, Lake Elsinore’s Reaper Ale and a slew of San Diego breweries. There are also beers from the East Coast, as well as Europe and Asia.

The site can handle 1,500 attendees a day. The Saturday session is already sold out. There will be free parking at Sony, but Silberstein encourages attendees to take a taxi. The event is a production of DrinkEatPlay, the events company behind last month’s L.A. Cupcake Challenge and next month’s Los Angeles BBQ Festival. A portion of profits will go to Noah’s Bark Pet Rescue.

Beer aficionados will have until May 9 to recover. The not-for-profit LA CABAL, formed by associates from the local craft-beer industry, began thirsting for a festival that would be “intrinsic to the craft-beer movement” about a year ago, Kansky said, and went to work, meeting weekly at places like member Ben Ling’s Pure Luck Restaurant to plan.

The CABAL’s resulting plot: Craft Beer Fest L.A., which will have a dozen California brewers presenting 26 beers (confirmed so far: Craftsman, Telegraph, Bruery, Hangar 24, Blind Lady, Port, Firestone Walker) and will benefit the student writing nonprofit 826LA. For $30, attendees get tastings, free pub grub (including vegan selections) and old-time music from the likes of the beer-friendly named Sausage Grinder. Brewers will discuss their tasty art, and there will also be cheese experts talking about pairing beer with food. Beer-flavored desserts (ale cupcakes! stout ice cream!) will be available from Scoops.

A toast: Dude!

L.A. Beer Festival. Sony Studios, 10202 Washington Blvd., Culver City. Sat.-Sun., 2-5 p.m. $40 (designated drivers $15). http://www.drinkeatplay.com/labeerfest

Craft Beer Fest L.A. Echoplex, 1154 Glendale Blvd., L.A. May 9, 2-9 p.m. $30. http://www.lacabal.org/beerfest

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raylawpc wrote:
bennie wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Bennie
Did you ever see a fight at Albert Hall? When I watch Hitchcock's "The Man Who Knew Too Much",the scene at Albert Hall where the attempted assassination takes place is fascinating. Too bad Hitch couldn't have directed a movie involving boxing at Albert Hall. Looks like a beautifull theater.
Many times, Rog. It is an unbelievable venue. There is not a bad seat in the house. They don't stage boxing there any more, however, which is a great shame.
I watched Honeyghan fight there and Mike McCallum.
No more British boxing at the Royal Albert Hall?? :o :o Is nothing sacred?? :o :o
They even held amateur boxing there but as boxing dropped off from the 1990s and the PC age kicked in, the grand old Hall became too posh, too big and no doubt too expensive, and little York Hall in the East End has taken over as the main boxing venue in the capital, where you sit and sweat.
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They even held amateur boxing there but as boxing dropped off from the 1990s and the PC age kicked in, the grand old Hall became too posh, too big and no doubt too expensive, and little York Hall in the East End has taken over as the main boxing venue in the capital, where you sit and sweat.[/quote]
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Bennie . . . I recently worked with an English actor, Johnny Lee Miller. Johnny is a fight fan and told me he has spent a lot of time watching fights at York Hall.

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Tony Baltazar ko 1 Clemente Enriquez
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Tony Baltazar . . .

Tony could really punch. He is what boxing people refer to as a "born puncher". Even as a little boy, under 80 pounds, Tony was flooring and actually KOing other kids. Of all the talented kids I have seen in the L.A. Jr. GG's program (some became world champs as pros), I never saw a kid that impressed me more than Tony Baltazar. I liked all three of the Baltazar boys, but Tony was my personal favorite. Armed with that left hook, Tony Baltazar was a monster in the ring. :box:

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Frank & Hap . . . A few months before Bob Murphy KOed Milo Savage at the Hollywood Legion, he stopped an L.A. guy, Kenny Watkins, at Ocean Park. I remember in the mid-60's an L.A. amateur named Kenny Watkins Jr., obviously the son. Do you have any memory of Kenny Watkins?

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The Father

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Country USA
Global Id 21356
Division Light Heavyweight


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Date Opponent Location Result
1951-10-23 Ray Louis Los Angeles, USA W UD 6
1949-04-12 Bob Murphy Los Angeles, USA W MD 10
1949-02-21 Milo Savage Ocean Park, USA W MD 10
1948-10-26 Bobo Olson Honolulu, USA L UD 10
1948-10-18 Bob Murphy Ocean Park, USA L TKO 9
1948-03-08 Milo Savage Ocean Park, USA W UD 10
1948-02-09 Milo Savage Ocean Park, USA D PTS 10
1948-01-02 Bobby Castro Hollywood, USA L SD 10
1947-10-20 Milo Savage Ocean Park, USA W UD 10
1947-09-12 Frankie Angustain San Diego, USA W PTS 10
1947-08-15 Allen Faulkner San Diego, USA L PTS 10
1947-06-09 Henry Rich Ocean Park, USA W UD 10
1947-03-21 Henry Rich San Diego, USA D PTS 10
1947-02-14 Henry Rich San Diego, USA L PTS 10
1946-12-09 Junius Washington Ocean Park, USA W RTD 8
1946-11-27 Vern Lester Oakland, USA L PTS 8
1946-11-04 Emory Jackson Ocean Park, USA W SD 10
1946-10-25 Paulie Peters Hollywood, USA W TKO 7
1946-08-30 Jack Chase Hollywood, USA L SD 10
1946-08-05 Johnny Eaton Ocean Park, USA W TKO 8
1946-07-08 Jimmy Coleman Ocean Park, USA W PTS 10
1946-06-05 George Evans Oakland, USA W PTS 10
1946-03-08 Frankie Angustain Hollywood, USA W UD 10
1946-02-11 Jimmy Richards Ocean Park, USA W KO 2
1946-01-07 Allen Arnett Long Beach, USA W PTS 8
1945-11-23 Jack Chase Hollywood, USA L UD 10
1945-09-25 Oakland Billy Smith Los Angeles, USA L TKO 7
1945-09-14 Reecy Davis Hollywood, USA W KO 3
1945-08-29 Oakland Billy Smith Oakland, USA L TKO 2
1945-08-07 Jack Chase Los Angeles, USA W PTS 12
1945-07-17 Jack Chase Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1945-07-05 Billy Mitchell Pasadena, USA W RTD 5
1945-01-22 Ray Acosta Ocean Park, USA W KO 4
1944-10-16 Gaston Miller Ocean Park, USA W PTS 10
1944-09-05 Roy Miller Los Angeles, USA W PTS 10
1944-08-23 Gaston Miller Wilmington, USA W PTS 10
1944-07-12 Amado Rodriguez Wilmington, USA W KO 5
1944-06-28 Reecy Davis Wilmington, USA W UD 10
1944-06-07 Kenny LaSalle Wilmington, USA W TKO 8
1944-05-24 Roman Starr Wilmington, USA W PTS 10
1944-02-04 Gaston Miller Hollywood, USA W PTS 6
1944-01-21 Amado Rodriguez Hollywood, USA W PTS 6
1943-11-26 Rusty Payne San Diego, USA L PTS 6
1943-11-09 Jimmy Grinnage Los Angeles, USA W PTS 8
1943-11-05 Jackie Burke San Francisco, USA W PTS 10
1943-09-29 Herman Graves Long Beach, USA W TKO 8
1943-09-17 Louis Wise Hollywood, USA W PTS 4
1943-09-10 Herman Graves Hollywood, USA D PTS 4
1943-08-18 Reecy Davis Long Beach, USA W TKO 9
1943-06-26 Reecy Davis San Diego, USA W KO 3
1943-05-04 Reecy Davis Los Angeles, USA L TKO 4
1943-03-15 Acey Haynesworth Ocean Park, USA W PTS 6
1943-03-09 Willie Collins Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1943-02-23 Reecy Davis Los Angeles, USA D PTS 4
1943-01-04 Chester Parks Ocean Park, USA W TKO 4
1942-10-20 Walter Fuller Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1942-09-11 Louis Wise Hollywood, USA W PTS 4
1942-05-18 Acey Haynesworth Ocean Park, USA W KO 4
1942-03-09 Willie Wright Ocean Park, USA W TKO 1
1942-02-09 Wilson Mackey Ocean Park, USA W PTS 4
1942-01-26 Ray Acosta Ocean Park, USA W PTS 4

Record to Date
Won 45 (KOs 15) Lost 12 Drawn 4 Total 61
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The Son

Ken Watkins

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Date Opponent Location Result
1970-03-13 Amado Vasquez San Diego, USA W PTS 6
1969-09-09 Mike Quarry Woodland Hills, USA L UD 6
1969-08-15 Mike Quarry San Bernardino, USA L PTS 6
1969-07-24 Filifili Alaiasa Los Angeles, USA W KO 3
1969-07-17 Clarence Archie Los Angeles, USA W KO 2
1968-11-12 Roger Webster Bakersfield, USA W KO 6
1966-06-23 Billy Walker Los Angeles, USA L KO 1
1966-06-17 Billy Walker San Bernardino, USA L PTS 4
1966-05-26 Bobby Shack Los Angeles, USA W KO 4
1966-01-06 Jose Luis Rodriguez Los Angeles, USA L KO 1
1965-06-05 Billy King North Hollywood, USA W KO 1
1965-05-20 Doug Huntley Los Angeles, USA L PTS 5

Record to Date
Won 6 (KOs 5) Lost 6 Drawn 0 Total 12
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Rick,

I know the names (Watkins) real good, but that about it, can say that I seen either one fight.
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kikibalt wrote:Rick,

I know the names (Watkins) real good, but that about it, can say that I seen either one fight.
Thanks for posting the record of Kenny Sr. I notice he stopped Billy Mitchell in five rounds in Pasadena, 1945. Of course, we both remember Billy Mitchell, Claude Durden's trainer.

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Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Rick,

I know the names (Watkins) real good, but that about it, can say that I seen either one fight.
Thanks for posting the record of Kenny Sr. I notice he stopped Billy Mitchell in five rounds in Pasadena, 1945. Of course, we both remember Billy Mitchell, Claude Durden's trainer.

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Rick,

I don't believe its the same Billy Mitchell, "thee" Billy Mitchell was a small guy, I could be wrong.
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kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Rick,

I know the names (Watkins) real good, but that about it, can say that I seen either one fight.
Thanks for posting the record of Kenny Sr. I notice he stopped Billy Mitchell in five rounds in Pasadena, 1945. Of course, we both remember Billy Mitchell, Claude Durden's trainer.

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Rick,

I don't believe its the same Billy Mitchell, "thee" Billy Mitchell was a small guy, I could be wrong.
Frank . . . I have no idea if it's him, but the trainer Billy was short, but had one of those thick bodies that might have carried the weight? By the way, speaking of Mitchell, I remember that Billy got into a legendary street fight with one of the guys who ran the Hoover St. Gym after Jake Shagrue. I guess the guys took the fight from inside the gym, into the front parking lot and onto Hoover Street. It was a helluva fight, I heard. However, things get kind of distorted from one mouth to the next, so who knows? Did you ever hear of that street fight?

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