Hypothetical Match-Up Game

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AngryGoon38 wrote: Oktay Urkal vs Pauli Malagnaggi-12 Rounds@140

Gene Fullmer vs Juan "Domingo" Roldan-15 Rounds@160

Sandy Saddler vs Alexis Arguello-15 Rounds@126

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Malignaggi manages to outspeed/outmaneuver Urkal to a decision, but Urkal gives him hell all the way. An "upset" by Urkal is possible as well.

Fullmer wins a tremendous battle with Roldan on points, his class and versatility giving him the edge in the late rounds.

Arguello may not be strong enough at 126 to handle Saddler's inside strength and bullying tactics. Helluva fight either way, but I lean slightly towards Saddler by late stoppage.


Next up: Sam Langford vs. Billy Conn @ super middleweight.
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Langford a shade too hot for Conn, in a bout which begs for a return. Almost too close to call.

Joey Maxim & Maxie Rosenbloom square off at 175...
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Rosenbloom takes a SD against Maxim, boxing beautifully over the final 3 rounds to secure the victory.

Floyd Patterson (1956) vs Bernard Hopkins (current version), catchweight of 180 LBS
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tzyuforever wrote:Rosenbloom takes a SD against Maxim, boxing beautifully over the final 3 rounds to secure the victory.

Floyd Patterson (1956) vs Bernard Hopkins (current version), catchweight of 180 LBS
Bernard Hopkins by very close, but fair UD.

Personally reckon Hopkins will be able to knockdown Patterson at least once

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Floyd Patterson (prime) v David Haye (LH)
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Patterson would have Haye out of there in 5 rounds. Haye's athleticism may bother Patterson for a few rounds, as he tries to work it out. But he eventually catches the Hayemaker with a pinpoint counter right, and finishes him with a brutal combination against the ropes. Patterson KO5.

Roy Jones Jr (2003) vs Evander Holyfield (1988) @ 190 LBS
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tzyuforever wrote:Patterson would have Haye out of there in 5 rounds. Haye's athleticism may bother Patterson for a few rounds, as he tries to work it out. But he eventually catches the Hayemaker with a pinpoint counter right, and finishes him with a brutal combination against the ropes. Patterson KO5.

Roy Jones Jr (2003) vs Evander Holyfield (1988) @ 190 LBS

"Holyfield Wins by UD"...Gets stronger and stronger as the fight wears on while Roy clings to life to barely survive the distance.
Ref comes very close to stopping it 3 different times during the last two rounds.This is assuming its a 12 Rounder.If a 15 Rounder,Holy by Tko13.



George Chuvalo(1966) vs Tommy Morrison(1993)

Zelijko Mavrovik vs Andrew Golota(What if Mavrovik had fought Andrew on 9-26-98 instead of Lennox Lewis for a vacant b grade crown...?)

Floyd Patterson(1960) vs John Ruiz(2001)

All for 12 Rounds :box:
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Chuvalo's busier, & only because of that does he pull off a razor-thin decision.

Golota on a close decision in a surprisingly quiet affair.

Patterson retires Ruiz on his stool through eleven rounds.

Primes: Kostya Tszyu vs. Miguel Cotto at 140...
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Good fight. I can see this being competitive for a while, with Tszyu taking control late, hurting Cotto several times, and punishing him the last few rounds. Essentially what happend to Cotto against Margarito, but with no cheating. 8)

Back to Roy....

Roy Jones Jr. vs Harry Greb in a SMW spectacular.
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tzyuforever wrote:Good fight. I can see this being competitive for a while, with Tszyu taking control late, hurting Cotto several times, and punishing him the last few rounds. Essentially what happend to Cotto against Margarito, but with no cheating. 8)

Back to Roy....

Roy Jones Jr. vs Harry Greb in a SMW spectacular.

There's no video footage of the great harry greb but based on his record with the low ko percentage,i would guess this would wind up a combination of a chessmatch and a busy fest...greb had very very high volume from what i heard and his chin was always proven to be solid.not a big puncher obviously so he'd have to rely on volume and a braulin maulin pressure type get inside style.Roy just might be too fast and might have the power and accumulation of offensive workrate to bust up Greb in the later rounds though,allthough,being it'd be 12 rounds in Roy's era,i see it going the distance and i guess i'd have to just guess that Roy would somehow win with superior counter punching skills.

Would certainly be a helluva rough going for both combatants though.I'll say Roy by razor thin SD.


Kevin Kelly vs Barry McGuigan

Meldrick Taylor vs Kostya Tszyu

Andy Ganigan vs Mickey Ward

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grimm beats mysterious billy smith by KO? greb loses to roy jones? i will see my solicitor in the morning! to each his own, though.

mcgiugan (still in his contender shoes) destroys kelley via body pressure. textbook rib ticklers deck kevin twice in round 4 and again in round 5 for the full count.

mcguigan KO 5

meldrick takes a decision over kostya no knock downs in a compelling duel.

taylor UD 12

ganigan opens up a bad bad cut above wards right eye in the 6th. mickey is ahead on the cards but that eye is just too horrendous and the ref waves it off for a stoppage in the 7th

ganigan TKO 7


world middleweight title;
tommy hearns v stanley ketchel

undercard;

pittsburgh pugfest
harry greb v billy conn
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harrygreb wrote:grimm beats mysterious billy smith by KO? greb loses to roy jones? i will see my solicitor in the morning! to each his own, though.

mcgiugan (still in his contender shoes) destroys kelley via body pressure. textbook rib ticklers deck kevin twice in round 4 and again in round 5 for the full count.

mcguigan KO 5

meldrick takes a decision over kostya no knock downs in a compelling duel.

taylor UD 12

ganigan opens up a bad bad cut above wards right eye in the 6th. mickey is ahead on the cards but that eye is just too horrendous and the ref waves it off for a stoppage in the 7th

ganigan TKO 7
You forgot your match-up, Mr. Greb. Jones hit you in the head too many times? :wink:
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try this one, GI (above) :TU:
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I posted Greb-Conn recently, but can't remember the outcome. I'd take Greb on a very close decision. Conn a little more sore after the battle than his counter-part, too.

Ketchel was too great a Middleweight for almost any of the great 160lbers, IMO, & I can't envision any non-Middles, off the top of my head, being favourite to beat him. Hearns' reach & power see him give it an almighty shake, but he comes up short in a big match again. Ketchel KO7.

Eusebio Pedroza (1982) & Juan Manuel Marquez (2004) at Featherweight. 12 rounds...
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:I posted Greb-Conn recently, but can't remember the outcome. I'd take Greb on a very close decision. Conn a little more sore after the battle than his counter-part, too.

Ketchel was too great a Middleweight for almost any of the great 160lbers, IMO, & I can't envision any non-Middles, off the top of my head, being favourite to beat him. Hearns' reach & power see him give it an almighty shake, but he comes up short in a big match again. Ketchel KO7.

Eusebio Pedroza (1982) & Juan Manuel Marquez (2004) at Featherweight. 12 rounds...

I give the slight edge to Marquez for some reason.

Wins with Tenacity, heart ,and sheer determination.

Marquez by MD12.


Oliver McCall vs Ray Mercer

Shannon Briggs vs Danny Williams

Glen Johnson vs Victor Galindez

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Mercer fades down the stretch, making it needlessly close, but his early-rounds lead remains intact at close. MD12 Mercer.

Briggs manages a lacklustre split decision over Williams.

Galindez KO's Johnson late, leading on the cards at the time, in a semi-competitive affair.

Floyd Patterson (1960) vs Muhammad Ali (1976). 15 rounds...
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Patterson does everything but beats Ali to a pulp,
early on Ali is able to move and dance, bouncing
jabs that lack sting into Patterson.

Floyd manages to close the gap and flurry, while
Ali holds on to him and clinches while dragging
Patetrson at the back of the head.

The mid to later rounds see's Ali go to the ropes
while being less and less active. Patterson is
to fast and active and looks good for most the rounds
when Ali is not returning his counter firing uppercuts
and right hands. Ali looks strong and dominant but
for to short a periods in each later round.

The judges give it to Ali, SD.
All those in attendance boo and carry on, convinced
Patterson was the winner.

Floyd Patterson (1966) Vs Carlos Deleon (1988) 12 rounds
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Another victim for Patterson. He's the boss in this one, and lets De Leon know it with a variety of attacks. By the end of the 9th, De Leon has had enough. He doesn't answer the bell for the 10th.

Ricardo Mayorga (2003) vs Aaron Pryor (1987) @ 147
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Mayorga stops a totally disinterested Pryor in eleven rounds. It's all Mayorga from the fifth onward, as Pryor has neither the compulsion, or the conditioning, to take advantage of his adversary's appallingly wide punch technique. The heavier shots begin to tell in the later rounds, & Pryor gives it up for an early shower, refusing to budge from his stool for the final round (assuming this was a 12-rounder).

Miguel Cotto (2006) vs. Ricky Hatton (2005) over twelve rounds at 140?
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Cotto would get Hatton hurt in the 2nd and just go for it and tire himself out then Hatton would recover and win all the rounds till the 10th when Cotto would get his 2nd wind and KO Hatton

Main Event
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Bruno Arcari 15 rounds

Undercard
Vito Antuofermo vs Arthur Abraham
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Chavez wins a rugged, workman like decison.

Abraham fends off an initial rush by Vito, and scores a 4th round KO.

A fight we all wish had been fought on more even ground....

Joe Louis (1938) vs Rocky Marciano (1952)
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Faster hands. A longer reach. Shorter punches. Similar hitting power. Better technique. A more explosive & varied offense.

The haymaker which fused Walcott with the canvas in their 1952 battle would be Marciano's only legit chance in this fight. Louis has it all over him, in nearly every department, & while Marciano built a legendary career on the back of overcoming adversity, this is one bridge too far. Louis stops a dazed & bloodied Marciano in a one-sided affair. Louis TKO8.

Louis moves on to face a peak version of Tyson over fifteen rounds...
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Months of wrangling go on to get these two in the ring. Joe and Mike are all for it as is Joe's manager, but Mike's handlers know better, though they eventually give in when the stakes go astronomical. Joe starts slow and Mike sends Joe to the canvas in the first round, and in the first two rounds Mike is convinced he's the boss in there. Joe recognizes something in Mike, He's seen it before, overconfidence. He becomes patient, and early in the third round begins to get to Mike mentally as he is completely unimpressed with Mike, he's also begins delivering combinations that are completely outclassing Mike and rapidly disolving his early confidence.

Though Mike knocked Joe off balance with the earyl KD Joe was not for a moment off his game. Joe acts as if it never happened and Mike gets confused, frustrated and simply has no answers. By the 7th round it's just a question of when Mike is going down, or lose his cool completely. In classic Tyson Style he loses his cool and he simply walks out of the arena before the 9th round begins rather than continue to take what has become a brutal beating. Mike does however KO his chief corner man and spits on his cut man on his way out.
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Bob Foster VS Evander Holyfield in their Primes at Cruiser.
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BoxBuzz wrote:Bob Foster VS Evander Holyfield in their Primes at Cruiser.
Holyfield by KO in around 8, maybe less. Too strong, too powerful, too good all-around for Foster.


Holyfield then goes on to fight Jersey Joe Walcott, catchweight of 195.
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Walcott wins a brutal affair, despite being on the canvas twice in the first 4 rounds. Holyfield just can't seem to find the range with Joe, and loses a razor thin UD.

Back to The Brown Bomber..

Joe Louis (1941) vs Roy Jones Jr. (2003) for Joe's HW title. 12 RDS.
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