mayweathers back!!!!

[Dioufy]

Heavier doesn't mean bigger, lads.

Mayweather v Hatton
5ft 9 ins HEIGHT 5ft 7 ins
147lbs WEIGHT 145lbs
72 ins REACH 65 ins
16 1/2 ins NECK 15 ins
38 1/2 ins CHEST 37 ins
39 1/2 ins CHEST EXP 39 ins
12 1/2 ins BICEP 13 ins
11 ins FOREARM 9 1/2 ins
7 ins WRIST 7 ins
8 ins FIST 11 1/2 ins
31 ins WAIST 30 ins
22 ins THIGH 20 1/2 ins
15 ins CALF 14 1/2 ins
9 1/2 ins ANKLE 10 ins

[Dioufy]

But Hatton didn't have to drain himself too much at 147lbs - for heaven's sake, he came in two pounds under the limit.

[Poncey]

Okay, I've let this gone on enough.

I've met both of them and Ricky is the "thicker set" fighter. Floyd is so wee he was eating Popeye's chicken and pizza in the build up to his fight with DLH and still came well under (150 if memory serves). He's taller and has more reach, as anyone that has fingers and the internet can find out, but it doesn't mean he's bigger.

Anyone that is going to the fight next weekend, go to Tryst in the Wynn as the Mayweather's have a table booked in there every Sat night.

Let's move on please.

[DG.]

Heavier doesn't mean bigger, lads.

Mayweather v Hatton
5ft 9 ins HEIGHT 5ft 7 ins
147lbs WEIGHT 145lbs
72 ins REACH 65 ins
16 1/2 ins NECK 15 ins
38 1/2 ins CHEST 37 ins
39 1/2 ins CHEST EXP 39 ins
12 1/2 ins BICEP 13 ins
11 ins FOREARM 9 1/2 ins
7 ins WRIST 7 ins
8 ins FIST 11 1/2 ins
31 ins WAIST 30 ins
22 ins THIGH 20 1/2 ins
15 ins CALF 14 1/2 ins
9 1/2 ins ANKLE 10 ins

Meaningless. Lets take the tale of the tape just before they are about to enter the ring, not when Hatton has drained himself and Floyd hasn't.

Well said, why can people not see that Hatton's stats are weight drained stats, PBF would weigh the same today.

PBF is taller and has a longer reach, thats about it.

[DG.]

But Hatton didn't have to drain himself too much at 147lbs - for heaven's sake, he came in two pounds under the limit.

He most likely came down from 12st.

Like wrestlers ( Olympic standard/College and not the WWE) Hatton can drain a lot of weight in a short space of time.

PBF is smaller build than Hatton, get over it.

[DG.]

Okay, I've let this gone on enough.

I've met both of them and Ricky is the "thicker set" fighter. Floyd is so wee he was eating Popeye's chicken and pizza in the build up to his fight with DLH and still came well under (150 if memory serves). He's taller and has more reach, as anyone that has fingers and the internet can find out, but it doesn't mean he's bigger.

Anyone that is going to the fight next weekend, go to Tryst in the Wynn as the Mayweather's have a table booked in there every Sat night.

Let's move on please.

Well said.

Hatton is bigger than PBF - not Taller - but bigger.

CASE CLOSED.

[Dioufy]

But why do you keep going on about weight? I have never disputed that Hatton isn't heavier, I am disputing that Mayweather is bigger in other ways.
Like bicep, calf, reach, chest, height ect, ect.
In essence, you're probably argueing against yourself.
Weight is irrelevant here to me, because I never disputed that FMJ weighed less.

[DG.]

But why do you keep going on about weight? I have never disputed that Hatton isn't heavier, I am disputing that Mayweather is bigger in other ways.
Like bicep, calf, reach, chest, height ect, ect.
In essence, you're probably argueing against yourself.
Weight is irrelevant here to me, because I never disputed that FMJ weighed less.

If you drain weight your stats change, chest - neck - biceps and even calf depending if you put on weight downstairs - upstairs or both.

Hatton is BIGGER...

No, you are right, PBF is bigger! Happy now?

Body mass sometimes plays a part in weight.

Hattons stat's are manipulated by weight making - heightb is height and reach reach!
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[Dioufy]

See, you're an absolute idiot when you want to be.
Do any of your posts not contain sarcasm or 'wankernesh'?
I have got bored of "owning" you, pee wee.
Hatton didn't drain that much to get to 145lbs.
Billy Graham said Hatton was feasting on take-a-ways when he fought Collazo.
Hatton only put on about six or seven pounds after the weigh-in - that's essentially nothing in this era.
The way you speak, it's like Hatton turns into Godzilla after the weigh-in - he put on under half a stone.
Jeez, now reply with a minuscule of decorum please.

[Dioufy]

And are you trying to tell me that six pounds manipulates your stats that much?

The weight that is put back on is mostly water, not muscle or anything else.

[DG.]

See, you're an absolute idiot when you want to be.
Do any of your posts not contain sarcasm or 'wankernesh'?
I have got bored of "owning" you, pee wee.
Hatton didn't drain that much to get to 145lbs.
Billy Graham said Hatton was feasting on take-a-ways when he fought Collazo.
Hatton only put on about six or seven pounds after the weigh-in - that's essentially nothing in this era.
The way you speak, it's like Hatton turns into Godzilla after the weigh-in - he put on under half a stone.
Jeez, now reply with a minuscule of decorum please.

We all know he fought Collazo at 147lbs but weighed 160plus on the night - he was heavier than Collazo fight night.

We all know he came in the ring at 154-156 for PBF.

145lbs add 7lbs and what do you get?

He routinely puts on 14lbs for Light Welter fights, you do know that? Everyone else does.

Come back with something valid.

And read the last sectin of THIS.. Point 4)

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=13454&more=1

7lbs?

PBF could not come into the ring at 154 or 160 if he tried!

[Dioufy]

It's all subjective this weight/height/bigger discrepancy. Please don't be ignorant to believe that you're opinion is gospel.
I, among a lot of others, believe FMJ is bigger.
There's no right or wrong, so stop acting like they is.
And don't assume that heavier means bigger, because it doesn't.
Two pounds out, God, I am horrendous. That makes the most monumental of differences.

[DG.]

It's all subjective this weight/height/bigger discrepancy. Please don't be ignorant to believe that you're opinion is gospel.
I, among a lot of others, believe FMJ is bigger.
There's no right or wrong, so stop acting like they is.
And don't assume that heavier means bigger, because it doesn't.
Two pounds out, God, I am horrendous. That makes the most monumental of differences.

Apologies to all posters but....

STFU, Dopey.

Read it. Section 4.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=13454&more=1

Adios.

PBF is Smaller.

Hatton...Bigger.

Anyone who think PBF is BIGGER than Hatton is wrong.

Case closed and the jury is dismissed.

My final word on the subject

[CheckHook]

I don't really understand why Hatton's weight draining always causes such outrage. Most, if not all fighters cut weight before a bout. Some are better at it than others, isn't that just a physiological advantage they have over those that can't/ don't cut as much weight? I don't see how its any different to a guy with long arms having a reach advantage. It's not like Hatton is the only guy out there weight draining and its not even like his weigh-in to fight night weight increase is that that far beyond the norm.

Usually Hatton weighs between 149-154 for fights at 140lb. That's an increase of between 9 and 14lb's overnight. Pacquaio added 12lb's overnight when he fought Diaz at 135lb and Pacquaio was moving up in weight. That's a 12lb increase, weighing 147lb in the ring, which puts him in the middle of Hattons typical weight increase, unyet there are no threads or people moaning about the amount of weight Pacquaio rehydrates. I haven't even bothered mentioning any of the weight draining welters who often come to the ring somewhere in the mid 160's, which is apparently the division Hatton should be fighting at.

As for who the bigger man is between Hatton and Mayweather, its all semantics. They're both about the same size. The difference is insignificant. Floyd has a height and reach advantage, Hatton is therefore more compact. Neither belong with the big 147lb fighters because both of those guys would be giving away a good few lb's. Having said that, I'd rather have Floyds defensive style for overcoming the weight gap than Hattons aggresive style. In that respect, Floyd is much more suited to the higher weight classes than Hatton, due to fighting style and of course raw boxing ability. Mind you, since 'natural weight' is taken to mean the weight that you walk around at by some folks on these boards then its all irrelevant because Hatton should be fighting guys like Kessler and Froch!

[Dioufy]

DG uses this "weight-draining" as justification to rubbish Hatton's credentials.
That's why few people respect his opinion regarding the Hitman.

And DG, you react like I dispute things. Stop putting words in my mouth.
152lbs was a guess - it wasn't a bad guess, two pounds over.
That won't make a massive difference.

Now cya again. No doubt you will embarress yourself further by returning.

[DG.]

I don't really understand why Hatton's weight draining always causes such outrage. Most, if not all fighters cut weight before a bout. Some are better at it than others, isn't that just a physiological advantage they have over those that can't/ don't cut as much weight? I don't see how its any different to a guy with long arms having a reach advantage. It's not like Hatton is the only guy out there weight draining and its not even like his weigh-in to fight night weight increase is that that far beyond the norm.

Usually Hatton weighs between 149-154 for fights at 140lb. That's an increase of between 9 and 14lb's overnight. Pacquaio added 12lb's overnight when he fought Diaz at 135lb and Pacquaio was moving up in weight. That's a 12lb increase, weighing 147lb in the ring, which puts him in the middle of Hattons typical weight increase, unyet there are no threads or people moaning about the amount of weight Pacquaio rehydrates. I haven't even bothered mentioning any of the weight draining welters who often come to the ring somewhere in the mid 160's, which is apparently the division Hatton should be fighting at.

As for who the bigger man is between Hatton and Mayweather, its all semantics. They're both about the same size. The difference is insignificant. Floyd has a height and reach advantage, Hatton is therefore more compact. Neither belong with the big 147lb fighters because both of those guys would be giving away a good few lb's. Having said that, I'd rather have Floyds defensive style for overcoming the weight gap than Hattons aggresive style. In that respect, Floyd is much more suited to the higher weight classes than Hatton, due to fighting style and of course raw boxing ability. Mind you, since 'natural weight' is taken to mean the weight that you walk around at by some folks on these boards then its all irrelevant because Hatton should be fighting guys like Kessler and Froch!

No one cares that hatton drains.. 99% of fighter do o that ius not the discussion.

It is who is bigger? Natural Mass Hatton - Height and reach PBF.Paul Williams has height and reach on some fighyters in the HEAVYWEUGHT division, but he is not bigger, he is a stick - just like PBF.

Read this..

Hatton was 147 in the weigh-in, but 160 in the actual fight. Things will be different the night he fights Mayweather

About fighting at 147, and not 140, Hatton said: “I’m not overly concerned about it. I’ve eyed Floyd up physically when we’ve stood next to each other and, like I say, he’s not a massive welterweight. I’ll probably get in the ring heavier than him.”

The night of the fight, Mayweather won’t exceed the 150 lbs., while Hatton has said that he will probably be 154: “Also, for Mayweather, I’ll get in the ring at the weight I fight best at, around 11 stone”. That is 154 lbs. Hatton’s extra weight in the Collazo fight –more than six unnecessary pounds– gave him strength, were useful in the clinches, but affected his speed, his reflexes and athleticism.

Furthermore, let’s remember that this is a fight at 147 pounds between a fighter whose best weight is 140, and another fighter who, at this age, should be 135 or 140 at max. Not only Hatton has the disadvantage, if you consider that Mayweather started his career at Super Featherweight.



Hatton is a good fighter and despoite what Dope Dioufy thinks, I KNOW Hatton is a world class fighter, just not elite.


Ps, stop crying, Dioufy.

[Dioufy]

Dopey? Find one half-brained person that agrees with that.
And you keep going back to weight, something I have never argued against. Is there a point where that eventually sinks in?
I am dopey - it's more like you, son.
I also forget to ask, what's Junior up to these days?
And there you go. You can't resist me.
I believe Mayweather is bigger, end of. Accept it or don’t post.
You don’t have enough influence on me for me to change my opinion.
And nice one for being original and embarressing yourself again by coming back.

[banjo]

Floyd is taller and has a longer reach but Hatton is a larger man, Floyd is nothing more than a small light welter but can get away with fighting at higher weight classes due to his skills, Hattons natural weight is probably around 11 stone, when he balloons up to 12+ stone that is excess weight not natural weight.

Edit - Floyds natural weight outside of the ropes will be nothing more than 145lbs.

[Dioufy]

How many times does it have to be said? Hatton is heavier but that doesn't nessacerily mean bigger.
It's subjective.
Look at the forearms, shoulders, legs, ect, ect.
Hatton just weighs more.

[Dioufy]

Devastated.
If heavier meant bigger, then there would be no use for the word heavier.
Just because Hatton weighs more, doesn't mean that he's bigger, it just means that he's heavier.
My opinion.

[CheckHook]

No one cares that hatton drains.. 99% of fighter do o that ius not the discussion.

If no one cares about Hatton draining then why are there some many threads, even those with a tenuous link to Hatton, about Hatton and his in ring weight? Why are we discussing who is the bigger man between Hatton and Mayweather when they're obviously about the same size? It's always about Hattons draining or his bullying of little men, people just try and find creative ways of discussing the point...

[DG.]

Floyd is taller and has a longer reach but Hatton is a larger man, Floyd is nothing more than a small light welter but can get away with fighting at higher weight classes due to his skills, Hattons natural weight is probably around 11 stone, when he balloons up to 12+ stone that is excess weight not natural weight.

Edit - Floyds natural weight outside of the ropes will be nothing more than 145lbs.

Agreed.

Very very poor posts by Dioufy in this thread indeed.

He has issues.

[Dioufy]

I have issues? I'm not the one running at any sign of a decent retort.
Ask the forum in one of your petty polls if you won't take my word for it.
Very few people respect you or your opinion.
I am guessing that's the trend you follow in 'real-life' too.
But of course, "you're respected where it matters."
Joke.

[J]

fornicate me looks like you he aint the only one to have issues to be fair DG.

I mean have an opinion fine but to have a slanging match over who is bigger?

Floyd is taller hatton is shorter, floys is more linear hatton more dumpy. fornicate me who cares?

I took this thread as a bit of a larf and tongue in cheek but seems others cant.

Nevermind hey... :P shrugs shoulder in apathy at a pointless argument thats gone on far too long and moves along.

[Dioufy]

Anyone who refers to himself as "The King" on a forum has issues.