Hopkins vs Froch
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big lennox
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Hopkins vs Froch
A big money fight for Froch, and I don't think he would be intimidated by hopkins.Worth persuing?
Re: Hopkins vs Froch
In all seriousness, Hopkins would take him to school.
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big lennox
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Re: Hopkins vs Froch
My thoughts entirely, but could be a big money fight though
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Froch is world class, Hopkins is elite class. I'd be suprised if Froch won a round.
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EddieShredder
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Re: Hopkins vs Froch
Worst fight out there for Froch, by a country mile.
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Phenomenal-Nutrition
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Re: Hopkins vs Froch
Hops schools Froch but hes getting an easy $5m for beating up Tito again
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dr_devious
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Re: Hopkins vs Froch
Although I think Carl has more ring smarts than Pavlik, my view is he would lose on points to BHopobserver1 wrote:In all seriousness, Hopkins would take him to school.
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MightyWarrior
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Re: Hopkins vs Froch
Worst idea I've heard in ages, take a look at Pavlik on how to set your career back 2 years and lose a prime time snorefest.big lennox wrote:A big money fight for Froch, and I don't think he would be intimidated by hopkins.Worth persuing?
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Horrible idea.
Froch needs to grow and mature as champion if he's going to take on defensive wizards. Hopkins is all wrong for him.
Obviously, Calzaghe a much better idea. If it could ever happen, as Calzaghe has a win over Hopkins, as it means more to US and British market. Cazlaghe is there to be hit, Hopkins is impossible to hit clean.
I have a feeling Froch will go for the unifications and fight exciting young American contenders on Showtime. There will be lots of fireworks, I feel.
I lost respect for Pavlik not only for how the fight went, but mainly the greedy bonehead mistake of taking the fight, at Hopkins' weight, in the 1st place.
Froch needs to grow and mature as champion if he's going to take on defensive wizards. Hopkins is all wrong for him.
Obviously, Calzaghe a much better idea. If it could ever happen, as Calzaghe has a win over Hopkins, as it means more to US and British market. Cazlaghe is there to be hit, Hopkins is impossible to hit clean.
I have a feeling Froch will go for the unifications and fight exciting young American contenders on Showtime. There will be lots of fireworks, I feel.
I lost respect for Pavlik not only for how the fight went, but mainly the greedy bonehead mistake of taking the fight, at Hopkins' weight, in the 1st place.
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i think hopkins KO'ing froch could be on the cards i mean he hurt calzaghe and im pretty sure hopkins could do a better job of out boxing froch than taylor did
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Not a chance hop will make him look awful there worlds apart in terms of ability
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Last I heard Hopkins was retiring.Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Hops schools Froch but hes getting an easy $5m for beating up Tito again
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Phenomenal-Nutrition
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Re: Hopkins vs Froch
He retires all the time, but Tito-Hops is a strong strong rumour/being discussedAsterix wrote:Last I heard Hopkins was retiring.Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Hops schools Froch but hes getting an easy $5m for beating up Tito again
Actually Froch calling Calzaghe out the other night is just what Joe did to Hopkins 'I was sitting at home happily retired in my slippers drinking Hot Chocolate when I heard Joe calling me out', he forgot to mention his false teeth
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I don't know. This is what I read:Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:He retires all the time, but Tito-Hops is a strong strong rumour/being discussedAsterix wrote:Last I heard Hopkins was retiring.Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Hops schools Froch but hes getting an easy $5m for beating up Tito again
http://www.fightbeat.com/news_details.php?NW=22102Bernard Hopkins is quoted saying "I WILL NOT FIGHT FELIX TRINIDAD. ESPN IS NOT EVEN CLOSE!” I WILL RETIRE IN JUNE”.
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Hopkins never discussed anything about tito.....Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:He retires all the time, but Tito-Hops is a strong strong rumour/being discussedAsterix wrote:Last I heard Hopkins was retiring.Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Hops schools Froch but hes getting an easy $5m for beating up Tito again
Actually Froch calling Calzaghe out the other night is just what Joe did to Hopkins 'I was sitting at home happily retired in my slippers drinking Hot Chocolate when I heard Joe calling me out', he forgot to mention his false teeth
Infact if that quote Asterix said is accurate, then he has dismissed it
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hitman_hatton1
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Re: Hopkins vs Froch
hopkins would outbox froch.
no doubts.
no doubts.
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alexpaterson
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Re: Hopkins vs Froch
Hopkins would school Froch for 12 rounds hes far to clever for him
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lefthook82
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Re: Hopkins vs Froch
No money in it for Hopkins. For Froch I suspect the logic will be I beat taylor who beat him twice so I'M better than him
120-108 if the fight did happen, and I woulnt rule out a stoppage win for Hopkins either
120-108 if the fight did happen, and I woulnt rule out a stoppage win for Hopkins either
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Its unanimous then, Hopkins skools Froch!
A no brainer really!
A no brainer really!
Re: Hopkins vs Froch
Even Froch couldn't make a BHop fight exciting!
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Rocky Balboa
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Re: Hopkins vs Froch
This might prove to be a lucrative bout for Froch. However, he should steer well clear of B-Hop is my view.
Carl made a lot of mistakes against Taylor. His defense needs improving big time. Ok, so we know Froch can take a dig but that does not mean you should box with your hands down ridiculously low & keep taking shots! Carl had big problems with Taylor's speed!
Hopkins is a different weight class anyway & I think he would be just as strong if not stronger than Froch. Since moving up to LHW Hopkins has been a lot stronger than was the case when he was at 160lbs. Only severe discipline enabled him to campaign at MW for so long!
I think Hopkins would beat Froch quite comprehensively! I have no doubts Froch would take the fight though.
Carl made a lot of mistakes against Taylor. His defense needs improving big time. Ok, so we know Froch can take a dig but that does not mean you should box with your hands down ridiculously low & keep taking shots! Carl had big problems with Taylor's speed!
Hopkins is a different weight class anyway & I think he would be just as strong if not stronger than Froch. Since moving up to LHW Hopkins has been a lot stronger than was the case when he was at 160lbs. Only severe discipline enabled him to campaign at MW for so long!
I think Hopkins would beat Froch quite comprehensively! I have no doubts Froch would take the fight though.
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WildWaylon
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Re: Hopkins vs Froch
Hopkins is too big, too skilled and knows all the tricks. Big money yes, but a fight Froch would more than likely lose. Just because Taylor beat him means nothing. Pavlik beat Taylor twice but he failed badly when he fought Hopkins. Pavlik/Froch would be a good fight. Pavlik is big and SM wouldnt be a problem for him. Decent money fight I would have thought and another Yank to get himself better known Stateside. A win over Pavlik would definately enhance his career.
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He should stay well away from Hopkins. It's a fight he can't win.
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Froch has so much to work on before he can think of taking on a boxer of this sort.
I don't wish to diss Froch's trainer, and I know they have a tight bond and it might be more to do with Froch than his trainer, but I sort of wonder if it might be more worthwhile for Carl to jump on board with one of the big American trainers? Seems a bit now or never but at his age I don't know if he really can get that much better. He certainly wont get much faster, but he needs to improve that stupid defence and get some more ring smarts. On paper he is a smooth operator and is very accurate with his shots, but against Taylor he was outclassed. It looked like a mid table prem club, with some good players, had qualified for the Champions League, then got humbled in their first match against Real Madrid. Strange analogy and at the end of the day Carl did win and he is the WBC Super Middleweight Champion of the world... but not for much longer if he doesn't sharpen up.
I don't wish to diss Froch's trainer, and I know they have a tight bond and it might be more to do with Froch than his trainer, but I sort of wonder if it might be more worthwhile for Carl to jump on board with one of the big American trainers? Seems a bit now or never but at his age I don't know if he really can get that much better. He certainly wont get much faster, but he needs to improve that stupid defence and get some more ring smarts. On paper he is a smooth operator and is very accurate with his shots, but against Taylor he was outclassed. It looked like a mid table prem club, with some good players, had qualified for the Champions League, then got humbled in their first match against Real Madrid. Strange analogy and at the end of the day Carl did win and he is the WBC Super Middleweight Champion of the world... but not for much longer if he doesn't sharpen up.
Re: Hopkins vs Froch
Hopkins would box circles around Froch. I cant see Carl winning more than a couple of rounds.