Silence Mabuza vs. Noel Wilders?

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 31 Jul 2004, 16:10

On Boxrec's schedules, for next Saturday?, is this taking place?

tea · Post by **tea** » 31 Jul 2004, 16:51

Yeah,this is on...Mabuza is exceptionally talented,Wilders is only going out a week before....not the best preps!

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 31 Jul 2004, 17:07

Jeez, no not ideal. Isn't Wilders due to meet Martin Power soon?

Kev

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 31 Jul 2004, 17:17

damn. Wilders is obviously confident, but it's not a fight i'd advise him to take. 1 week prep in south africa? against the skilled, hard hitting unbeaten Mabuza! Suicide.

tea · Post by **tea** » 31 Jul 2004, 17:40

Isuppose the british depends on what happens in S.A ,last night Barry Mcguigan said Power was the best bantam coming through....wrong Dale Robinson announced on another site he was moving up to bantam now we have a fight on.Personally I think Mabuza is possibly a career ender,hes seriously dangerous.

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 31 Jul 2004, 17:45

After being blasted out so badly by Guerault, I thought Wilders would build himself up again with a couple of easy ones, but this is nothing of the sort.

Yes Dale's addition to the Bantamweight division will make it interesting. Power still has a lot to learn, that was proved last night by the way Foster schooled Codet, who had given Power a hard fight earlier in the year!

Kev

tea · Post by **tea** » 31 Jul 2004, 17:54

Dale was the only person to stop Power in the amateurs,did spencer tremble powers legs?

The truth is behind Robbo/Power/Wilders +Booth(could be a while before we see him )who is their?

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 31 Jul 2004, 18:22

I agree Kev, I dont think it is the best plan to go in with Mabuza so soon after being demolished by Guerault

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 31 Jul 2004, 18:24

the biggest thing here is the climatisation (bad spelling i think). You need 2 weeks at the very least. Remember Lewis-Rahman, Starie-Thysse.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 31 Jul 2004, 19:12

I remember watching Mabuza against Pedro Torres and he looked class, Wilders could get hurt and this is the type of fight that could burn him out later in his career, a sort of 10 fights in one job. Mabuza has stopped 14 out of 15, this fight was mentioned in the Boxing News whispers so i suppose there is something in it.

tea · Post by **tea** » 01 Aug 2004, 09:24

adamiw wrote:the biggest thing here is the climatisation (bad spelling i think). You need 2 weeks at the very least. Remember Lewis-Rahman, Starie-Thysse.

We got told 3 weeks at least and took 4,but it costs to prepare properly it also costs a hell of a lot more to fly business class but again its the sort of thing that can make a big difference to a fighter especially if he only has a week out there ,imagine if he cant sleep how f**ked is he gonna be?

emile · Post by **emile** » 02 Aug 2004, 10:41

Here is an article on the fight from the Sunday Times in ZA. I'm copying the whole thing because the pages load very slowly.

Englishmen Noel Wilders is unfazed about taking on Silence Mabuza, one of South Africa's top boxers, next weekend.

"At the end of the day, you're as good as you are," says the native of Castleford, near Leeds. "He's the best in his country at his weight and I'm the best in my country at my weight. It will be a cracker."

Wilders challenges Mabuza for the IBO bantamweight crown at the Carousel casino on Saturday night - fighting for a title he held briefly in 2000 and 2001.

He didn't lose the belt in the ring, however, being stripped for inactivity.

But Wilders's pedigree can probably be better judged by the two other titles he's held - the British and European. The only defeat of his 26-bout career came last year when he was stopped by David Guerault for the continental belt in the seventh round.

"I was complacent for that fight," admits Wilders, the British amateur champion in 1995. "I wasn't dedicated in training. But that won't happen again."

And Wilders knows he can't be complacent this time. Having seen video tapes of Mabuza, he knows the calibre of his opponent. "He looks a classy fighter - an all-rounder. But I'm confident. I think I've got the ability to beat him."

His trainer, Michael Marsden, had the same sentiment. "He [Mabuza] is very slick and he looks a bit of a puncher."

Wilders considers himself a boxer. "I'm a mover, pick my punches. I'm more a classy boxer than a bang 'em out type."

His knockout ratio of just seven from 24 victories is testament to that.

At school he excelled at middle- distance and cross-country running as well as rugby league. But boxing was the sport that grabbed him. "It's just been a way of life - I'd be lost without boxing," says Wilders, a bricklayer by trade.

He first donned gloves 19 years ago when he went to the gym with his older brother, Nicky, a professional in the 1990s.

At 29, southpaw Wilders goes into what could be his toughest assignment.

In South African boxing, the bantamweight division has traditionally been the strongest.

It was where SA claimed its first Olympic boxing medal (Willie Smith's gold in 1924); where SA won its only undisputed world title (Vic Toweel in 1952).

And it's also there where SA fight fans saw one of the greatest ring battles of all time, when Arnold Taylor rose from the canvas to knock out Romeo Anaya for the WBA belt in 1973.

Since then, Mbulelo Botile (IBF), Lehlohonolo Ledwaba (WBU) and Patrick Quka (WBU) have won versions of the world bantamweight crown. Now Mabuza, 27, is the man in possession.

Wilders has the edge in experience with his record of 24-1-1 to Mabuza's 15-0 (14 KOs) - and he will need to draw on every ounce of it if he is to win back a title he never lost in the ring.

J · Post by J » 02 Aug 2004, 10:47

where exactly is this casino anyone know?
If its at altitude he doesnt have a prayer with one week to acclimatise.

tea · Post by **tea** » 02 Aug 2004, 10:56

J wrote:where exactly is this casino anyone know?
If its at altitude he doesnt have a prayer with one week to acclimatise.

Thirty minutes from jo`burg, very high altitude Ithink its nearly the highest in the country.

J · Post by J » 02 Aug 2004, 10:57

he is fucked then.
I mean to win he is likely to have to go 12 rounds at altitude with no acclimatisation. Not a prayer Im afraid. This is a real daft fight to take at such short notice.

black panther · Post by **black panther** » 02 Aug 2004, 11:10

and did u know guerault got knocked out by journeyman freddy patrac and lost the euro title he won from noel in the process? the EBU is there for the taking - i mean well done patrac but he s not gonna hold onto the title that long is just who gets the chance first...

Boxingmad · Post by **Boxingmad** » 03 Aug 2004, 08:12

I saw Mabuza on the Williams V Mirovic show in Brentford. He was devastating. Wilders to get pulverised in 5!!

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 03 Aug 2004, 08:56

I can't believe that this Guerault guy has crumbled so badly, he battered Wilders and i even picked him to beat Bredahl

One thing i will say is that every time he threw a punch he followed through with an elbow for good measure, that definately antagonised the cuts on Wilders face, but i cannot believe he turned out to be so average

Wilders will get hurt if he fights Mabuza

somerstown · Post by **somerstown** » 06 Aug 2004, 14:28

Will this fight be shown on TV.

Or is there any way to see it on the net?

Spreadking · Post by **Spreadking** » 06 Aug 2004, 14:59

I layed a little on the under, since Mabuza has been stopping everyone. It's about even odds on the 9.5 rounds under. Hope he gets the kayo

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 07 Aug 2004, 18:38

Mabuza won KO5:
http://www.sabcnews.com/sport/boxing/0, ... 29,00.html

kevin · Post by **kevin** » 07 Aug 2004, 18:49

Thanks freiheit..

Shit that puts a spanner in the works for Wilders/Power... Always thought it was going to be a hard task for Wilders!!

Southpaw Stylist · Post by **Southpaw Stylist** » 08 Aug 2004, 09:06

http://www.boxrec.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=20729

As I said.

tea · Post by **tea** » 08 Aug 2004, 14:12

ROBINSON V POWERS...LETS GET IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!