Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Dongee wrote:I'm siorry I even suggested them to you, Rog, because I had no idea of their criteria for selection. I only visited the place a couple of times in the many years I lived in the area.

In my place I showed Olaf Wieghorst (minor works), Keith Sluder (egg tempera), Irene Spencer (oils, prints and etchings), Scott Morgan, oils; DeGrazia gaphics; Walter Brennan, Jr. oils, and a variety of several recognized cowboy artists. It is a fascinating field that I am sorry I entered very late in my life to be totally successful at it.

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No need to apologize. I'm not sore anymore. I'm going to be doing some stuff at the WBHOF by way of Rick and Mando Muniz later in the tear. My grand daughter Amanda's Flamenco company is going to put on a show in November. I'll have another show there. I stay busy with it. Today I got my car clear coated at the dealership in exchange for a painting.

That image I saw of you was on the CyberZone Website. You were standing with Frank and his son and some other fellas'.Rog
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Hap Navarro, Stephen Gordon, Greg Beyer, Frank Baltazar and Frankie Baltazar Jr.
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Of course, Rog, I figured as much because of the likeness, which you captured to a "T"......your co-ordination between the eyes and the hands is very, very good, my friend. My dear wife was a gviid sketch artist but didn't stay with her painting long enough to develop a style. Her inks, charcoals, etc. were quite good.
Rog, you have an admirer here also because of your feeling for Jiquilpan and all things Mexican. May you never lose that, good friend.

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Of course, Rog, I figured as much because of the likeness, which you captured to a "T"......your co-ordination between the eyes and the hands is very, very good, my friend. My dear wife was a gviid sketch artist but didn't stay with her painting long enough to develop a style. Her inks, charcoals, etc. were quite good.
Rog, you have an admirer here also because of your feeling for Jiquilpan and all things Mexican. May you never lose that, good friend.

regards

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dagosd2000 wrote:Image

Hap Navarro
Roger . . .

Another masterpiece! More so than any painting to date, this "original" best personifies "Classic American West Coast Boxing" :bow:
You did great, pal. :TU:


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Dongee wrote:Of course, Rog, I figured as much because of the likeness, which you captured to a "T"......your co-ordination between the eyes and the hands is very, very good, my friend. My dear wife was a gviid sketch artist but didn't stay with her painting long enough to develop a style. Her inks, charcoals, etc. were quite good.
Rog, you have an admirer here also because of your feeling for Jiquilpan and all things Mexican. May you never lose that, good friend.

regards

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Thanks for the kind words. When I married my wife 40 years ago,I finally inderstood where this dago belonged in the scheme of things. Times are tough. They are going to get tougher. When my grand daughter can plunge into her dancing alone,I'll be off to Jiquilpan. The best investment I ever made was to build our home there. i know it's not for everybody. Maybe that's good for me. I'll be in my little "rinconcito" by myself.
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Rick Farris wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Image

Hap Navarro
Roger . . .

Another masterpiece! More so than any painting to date, this "original" best personifies "Classic American West Coast Boxing" :bow:
You did great, pal. :TU:


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Thanks Rick
Great men inspire great effort on my part. Rog :TU:
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Our two houses in Jiquilpan. The new house is on the left. 3 bedrooms,2 baths,built in kitchen(gas stove,refrigerator,microwave,electric washer,handmade cabinets,hand carved door),tile floors. Furnture and appliances are all new. My Nissan Quest in front. Hurry up Amanda! Abuelito wants to retire.
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dagosd2000 wrote:Image

Our two houses in Jiquilpan. The new house is on the left. 3 bedrooms,2 baths,built in kitchen(gas stove,refrigerator,microwave,electric washer,handmade cabinets,hand carved door),tile floors. Furnture and appliances are all new. My Nissan Quest in front. Hurry up Amanda! Abuelito wants to retire.
Beautiful, Roger. Life will be good, happy.
That's the ultimate dram, happiness.


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kikibalt wrote:Image

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Enjoy the legend while it's here . . .

I joined a couple studio buddies to watch this one, and I'm glad I did.
You know I'm partial to the legends, and this is one of them.

My hats off to an "All Time Great".
Some of you may disagree, but I say he'd fit in and be at the top of any era.
How much better could you destroy an opponent (and of course, Hatton was defeated long before the opening bell).

Congratulations Manny & Freddie Roach. Wonder where the Mayweather's are hiding tonight?????


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Rick Farris wrote:
bennie wrote:Tell Pops Blackpool is still OK, Dan, but it went downhill for a while because of holidays abroad but is picking up again now (they are doing a helluva lot of work on the Promenade). I certainly enjoyed the week: friendly people, good beer, good food, plenty of entertainment, a day trip to the Lake District, and the hotel was great. A nice little break before the summer season really packs out the town.

PS: It is only the teenagers who have a tattoo and an earring done, Rick. It is like a tradition (or certainly was).
Bennie . . . When I was younger, I considered getting a tiny tattoo of the national flag for every woman that I shared romantic love with (beyond casual sex). At the time, there were just 3 or 4. Had I done so, and kept it current my body would reveal these flags:

The U.S. flag, a Union Jack, Brazil, Finland, Ireland, Germany, Italy, Canada, Mexico, Denmark, Sweden, South Africa, France, Australia, Thailand, Holland, Iceland, Norway, Japan, Romania, Barbados, Chile and Kenya.

I loved them all, however, had I put even the tiniest image of those flags on my body, today, my junior middleweight body would weigh-in at light-heavy from the twenty pounds of ink that I'd be carrying around. So, no tattoos. :lol:


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Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image

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Enjoy the legend while it's here . . .

I joined a couple studio buddies to watch this one, and I'm glad I did.
You know I'm partial to the legends, and this is one of them.

My hats off to an "All Time Great".
Some of you may disagree, but I say he'd fit in and be at the top of any era.
How much better could you destroy an opponent (and of course, Hatton was defeated long before the opening bell).

Congratulations Manny & Freddie Roach. Wonder where the Mayweather's are hiding tonight?????


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"We wuz robbed!" :wink:
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kikibalt wrote:Image

Hap Navarro, Stephen Gordon, Greg Beyer, Frank Baltazar and Frankie Baltazar Jr.
Otherwise known as the likely lads.
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bennie wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image

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Enjoy the legend while it's here . . .

I joined a couple studio buddies to watch this one, and I'm glad I did.
You know I'm partial to the legends, and this is one of them.

My hats off to an "All Time Great".
Some of you may disagree, but I say he'd fit in and be at the top of any era.
How much better could you destroy an opponent (and of course, Hatton was defeated long before the opening bell).

Congratulations Manny & Freddie Roach. Wonder where the Mayweather's are hiding tonight?????


-Rick Farris
"We wuz robbed!" :wink:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :box: :KO:
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Manny Pacquiao's fists are loaded, and his bouts are a lock

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Manny Pacquiao celebrates his knockout of Ricky Hatton on Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

With his second-round destruction of Ricky Hatton, Pacquiao continues to cement his reputation as the world's best fighter, pound for pound.

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May 3, 2009

Manny Pacquiao can no longer be identified as a boxer. Lethal weapon, maybe. Or destroyer missile. Whatever the definition, he is unquestionably the sport's top gun.

What he did to Ricky Hatton on Saturday night, in a boxing ring at the MGM Grand Garden, before a crowd of 16,262 and millions more all over the world watching on pay-per-view, was mostly mayhem. The man from Manchester was manhandled.

British fans who swoop down on this city every time Hatton fights -- which is three times since December 2007 -- serenaded him into the ring as usual, with the now-annoying version of "Winter Wonderland" that begins: "There's only one Ricky Hatton."

They were right. He was the only one who ended up on his back in the middle of the ring.

The fight summary is one paragraph. Pacquiao knocked Hatton down twice in the first round, dominated the second and caught Hatton with a vicious left hook as the round ticked down. Hatton's eyes rolled back and his body fell, like a sack of potatoes, flat on his back. Referee Kenny Bayless knelt over him for several seconds, then waved his hands, with one second left in the round, to signify that the fight was over.

The aftermath was a bit scary. Hatton didn't move right away, and soon there were many people with concerned looks on their faces, kneeling and hovering. Hatton may have been on his back longer than he was on his feet during the fight.

Eventually, they brought his stool to the middle of the ring and got him on it, and a few minutes later he left the ring under his own power, waving feebly to a crowd of Brit fans who may have been driven to drink by the result. Of course, any result would have driven them to drink.

Pacquiao, the Filipino powerhouse whose record went to 49-3-2 (with 37 knockouts), weighed in Friday at 138 pounds and went to 148 by fight time. Hatton, now 45-2-0 (with 32 knockouts), weighed in at the limit of 140 and gained 12 pounds by fight time.

A measure of how dominant Pacquiao has become is that this victory marked his fourth different weight-class win in the last 14 months. His previous conquest, of boxing legend Oscar De La Hoya at 147 pounds, sent De La Hoya into retirement. Hatton is only 30, two months older than Pacquiao, but may be pondering a similar path. The pubs of Manchester are a lot safer than Pacquiao's left hand.

Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, now the pound-for-pound best corner man in his sport, pretty much called the shot again, just as he had against De La Hoya on Dec. 6. He said Pacquiao would knock Hatton out in the third round. Pacquiao apparently had earlier dinner reservations.

"This fight was no surprise to me," Roach said.

The star trainer always seems to have a secret strategy, and he revealed afterward that, for this one, he had watched hours of film of Hatton -- "I knew him better than my own fighter," he said -- and realized that Hatton was wide open for the right hook.

"Hatton pumps his fist before he throws," Roach said. "We also knew he'd be looking for the left," Pacquiao's main weapon.

The first knockdown in the first round came via a right, the second with a left. Hatton had actually survived somewhat better in the second, despite Pacquiao's quickly evident superior hand speed, foot speed and punching power. But the left that finished him started at about 7 o'clock, landed on Hatton's face at about 12 noon and made the likely obvious result official.

Hatton didn't attend the post-match news conference, because he was taken to Valley Hospital. Before he left, he said, "It was a hard lot, but I'm OK. I really didn't see the punch coming, but it was a good shot."

Pacquiao, ever the diplomat, said, "I'm surprised the fight was so easy. I worked hard in training camp and he was open for the right all night. It was nothing personal. I was just doing my job."

Bob Arum, whose Top Rank Promotions handles Pacquiao, called his boxer "a monster" afterward, and started making noises about Pacquiao's becoming boxing's "all-time great."

Two things to consider there. As a promoter, Arum is wired for hyperbole. But also, he is no newcomer to this and began his career promoting no less than Muhammad Ali.

The only thing that might stop Pacquiao now is his desire to become a prominent government official someday soon in his beloved Philippines. There is even talk of the presidency someday.

Were that to happen now, it would make Pacquiao the answer to the trivia question: Which country has a president even more popular than Barack Obama?

For Hatton, a nice guy and tough competitor who is also beloved in his country, there may not be a lot of return trips upcoming.

Which, of course, will send the beer distributors of Las Vegas into deep depression.

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A Bitter Fan . . .

I just received a phone call from one of my amigos. My friend had bet Ricky Hatton to win, as a 2-1 underdog.
"Hatton lost", my friend laments, "Do you think it was fixed?"

My answer, "Yeah, Pac fixed Ricky's wagon. Mayweather Sr's too."


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I called Rick several hours before fight time to go over our picks as we usually do before a big fight. Usually, we pretty much see eye to eye on a fight, but on this one we were wildly divergent. Rick was going with Manny via an early KO and I was going with Hatton via decision. Well, after the 1st round I saw where this was going and left Rick with a voice-mail something like, "Didn't Mayweather teach him how to fight a southpaw? He's squared up directly on him, no jab or anything. Floyd Mayweather Sr. sucks d**k!" Or something to that effect. Truly, that was one of the most ill-prepared performances I have ever seen. It was as if he had never seen a southpaw let alone fight or spar with one. Mayweather Sr. is highly overrated. Hats off to Manny, he had a deer in the headlights in front of him with an inviting chin and took full advantage of it with some of the sharpest punches I've seen. He was pure dynamite. Great call, Rick.

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I picked Manny inside 6. I knew Hatton could never change his style to become a boxer. I knew he couldn't slug with Manny. I watched some highlights on Yahoo Sports.
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bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Image

Hap Navarro, Stephen Gordon, Greg Beyer, Frank Baltazar and Frankie Baltazar Jr.
Otherwise known as the likely lads.
Or as the cops call them - "the usual suspects . . ."
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dagosd2000 wrote:I picked Manny inside 6. I knew Hatton could never change his style to become a boxer. I knew he couldn't slug with Manny. I watched some highlights on Yahoo Sports.
Rog...You should had come to my house and watch the fight, I was here by myself last night, my son James bought the fight and didn't stay around to watch it.

He comes out of his room dress to the nines, I asked him,
"Aren't you watching the fight?"
"No, I'm going to a family (Girlfriend's family) party, just record it an I'll watch it later", and he walked out the door, Connie was in the other room watching cartoons.... :lol:
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kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:I picked Manny inside 6. I knew Hatton could never change his style to become a boxer. I knew he couldn't slug with Manny. I watched some highlights on Yahoo Sports.
Rog...You should had come to my house and watch the fight, I was here by myself last night, my son James bought the fight and didn't stay around to watch it.

He comes out of his room dress to the nines, I asked him,
"Aren't you watching the fight?"
"No, I'm going to a family (Girlfriend's family) party, just record it an I'll watch it later", and he walked out the door, Connie was in the other room watching cartoons.... :lol:

Frank
I think I would have went with James. :lol:
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scartissue wrote:I called Rick several hours before fight time to go over our picks as we usually do before a big fight. Usually, we pretty much see eye to eye on a fight, but on this one we were wildly divergent. Rick was going with Manny via an early KO and I was going with Hatton via decision. Well, after the 1st round I saw where this was going and left Rick with a voice-mail something like, "Didn't Mayweather teach him how to fight a southpaw? He's squared up directly on him, no jab or anything. Floyd Mayweather Sr. sucks d**k!" Or something to that effect. Truly, that was one of the most ill-prepared performances I have ever seen. It was as if he had never seen a southpaw let alone fight or spar with one. Mayweather Sr. is highly overrated. Hats off to Manny, he had a deer in the headlights in front of him with an inviting chin and took full advantage of it with some of the sharpest punches I've seen. He was pure dynamite. Great call, Rick.

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Scar,
If it's any consolation, I had Ricky ahead on points just before the first knockdown.
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dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:I picked Manny inside 6. I knew Hatton could never change his style to become a boxer. I knew he couldn't slug with Manny. I watched some highlights on Yahoo Sports.
Rog...You should had come to my house and watch the fight, I was here by myself last night, my son James bought the fight and didn't stay around to watch it.

He comes out of his room dress to the nines, I asked him,
"Aren't you watching the fight?"
"No, I'm going to a family (Girlfriend's family) party, just record it an I'll watch it later", and he walked out the door, Connie was in the other room watching cartoons.... :lol:

Frank
I think I would have went with James. :lol:
Go figure :confused:
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