Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Frank,
Since you know much about west coast boxing and boxers maybe you can answer this question for me. I recently watched some video of Jerry Quarry and noticed that he kept his right heel up. Was that a habit that he developed by himself or did he have a trainer early in his career who taught that? Do you know if any trainer ever tried to break Quarry of that habit? Thanks.

Les
Les, I know exactly what you are referring to. However, I have no idea how he learned that, if it was something he developed on his own, or was taught, etc.??? I was close with Jerry when he was being trained by Teddy Bentham, at the height of his pro career, and never heard anybody mention this. However, I will ask this, if something ain't broke, why fix it???

Jerry moved well on his feet, punched with dynamite, could box with balance and speed. Why would anybody want to change this??? If Jerry had a problem, it was not related to his feet.


-Rick Farrisw
It's funny, I never noticed it before but once actually hearing about it, yeah he was prone to doing that. Thinking about now, it was obvious he was using the ball of his foot to pivot.

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Dan, Mel Epstein always had me on the balls of my feet. It increased my mobility and I was always ready with the right hand at a moments notice. Having the right heel up seems perfectly normal to me.

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I was taught to keep my right heel up slightly. I think most fighters who learned to box circa 1940 through 1970 were taught to keep their right heel up. However, since Dan mentioned it, I think one noticed it more on Jerry Quarry because he kept the heel unusually high.
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Dom DeLuise died today. This has affected me. A good Italian.A good guy. Frank,could you post the Yahoo story on his passing. Thanks. Rog
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dagosd2000 wrote:Dom DeLuise died today. This has affected me. A good Italian.A good guy. Frank,could you post the Yahoo story on his passing. Thanks. Rog

Rog . . . He was a good guy, and Burt Reynolds loved him. I recall a TV show that Burt directed in the 80's "Amazing Stories" and he cast his buddy in the episode, along with his wife of the time, Lonnie Anderson. He was funny on camera and off, openly gay, a good person with a big heart. As you said, a good Italian and a pleasure to work with.


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kikibalt wrote:Gustavo Arellano of 'Ask a Mexican!' on Cinco de Mayo

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Gustavo Arellano mixes humor and social commentary in his "¡Ask a Mexican!" column.

By Elina Shatkin, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
May 1, 2008

Puerile provocation or Swiftian satire? Let critics debate the merits of "¡Ask a Mexican!," Gustavo Arellano's witty, profane and occasionally edifying OC Weekly column. We're more interested in the Guatemalan-baiting, tamale-loving Mexican's thoughts on Cinco de Mayo.

Is Cinco de Mayo a real holiday or is it just a beer company holiday?

Cinco de Mayo is an actual holiday that commemorates Mexico's victory over France in the Battle of Puebla on May 5, 1862. What's never noted is that a year later, the French came back, slaughtered the Mexicans, then occupied Mexico for four years until the Mexicans finally kicked them out. If this is what passes for a Mexican holiday, no wonder the only way to celebrate it is by drinking ourselves into oblivion.

Cinco de Mayo vs. St. Patrick's Day: Who would win?

I'd have to say St. Patrick's Day. Leprechauns get much more drunk and much more aggressive than Mexicans.

How about Cinco de Mayo vs. Oktoberfest?

Cinco de Mayo. Mexicans, when we get drunk, we get happy. Germans, when they get drunk, they get foolish. More important, Mexicans are even more German than Germans. All of our music -- oompah and polka and all that -- is based on German music. You put a Mexican in Oktoberfest, he starts dancing. You put a German in Cinco de Mayo, he scratches his head.

I never knew the accordion was such a cultural unifier.

Banda music -- the big brass bands you'll hear rattling from a Lincoln Navigator if you drive around South-Central -- that's just a German oompah band. And in the conjunto norteños where you hear the accordions, those are just Czech and Polish polkas. Nowadays, the only people in America who think the accordion is cool are people in Cleveland -- and Mexicans.

Some tend to lump all the Central and South American ethnicities together. But what do Guatemalans, Hondurans, Salvadorans and so forth do on Cinco de Mayo?

It's an occasion to party. That's the one thing that unifies Latinos. Not even the Spanish language unifies us. It's the party. On Cinco de Mayo, everyone's an honorary Mexican. It gives you a pass to get as drunk as possible, and I think that's something all races can agree on.

For an Angeleno who somehow knows nothing about Cinco de Mayo, how do you recommend they celebrate?

Eat Mexican food at real Mexican restaurants. Do not go to El Torito. Do not go to El Cholo. Celebrate true Mexican independence from tyranny by going to a taco truck, especially now when the Board of Supervisors basically wants to regulate them out of existence.

In a recent column you touched on "symbolic ethnicity." Can you elaborate?

There's this idea that somehow Mexicans will always remain Mexicans, that all we do is speak Spanish, not tip properly and swim in the ocean with our clothes on. But one of the main ways that immigrants first make their mark on the country (and by default, assimilate) is by celebrating holidays. At one point, St. Patrick's Day was only celebrated by the Irish. Now it's almost a national holiday. Cinco de Mayo is still viewed as this quaint, Mexican-only holiday, but more and more people celebrate it. This means that Americans are more and more comfortable with Mexicans being in this country and the idea of them ultimately being no different from other Americans.

El Cholo, Ruben Navarro & my 21st birthday party . . .

I'm a gringo, so what I have to say about Mexican food carries no weight here.
I agree with what the guy says about El Torito. Crappy food and bad margaritas
However, "El Cholo" is my all-time favorite restaurant. It's located on Western Ave. just south of Olympic Blvd.
I will choose this eating establishment over any other place in the world, I don't care what type food, etc.

The place has been there since 1918. They say the food is "Sonora Style", and this Gabacho doesn't care if Mexican's like it or not.
Their Margarita's are beyond compare and I've had them everywhere.
This is the first place I ever got drunk. I was 18, shortly before my pro debut.
My future sister-in-law, Kam Nelson was 19 at the time, and had just married Olympic pole vault gold medalist Bob Seagren.
They will never let me forget that day. Neither will I forget my surprise 21st birthday party that was held there three years later.

On the day of my birthday, my soon-to-be wife Karla, Ruben Navarro & wife Carol, Bob & Kam Seagren, Rams wide receiever, Lance Rentzel & his actress wife Joey Heatherton, Olympic shot put record holder Brian Oldfield, welterweight Gil King, lightweight Ron Cisneros, heavyweight Kit Boursse', other friends and my family was there.

Ruben and I go to the bar to order a couple pitchers of Margaritas. The bartender is Mexican, he seemed to have a chip on his shoulder.
When we place our order he asks for our ID's. I show him mine but Ruben's driver's license had been suspended, Carol had driven so he didn't have ID.
The bartender looks at me and says, "You can drink". He then looks at Ruben and says, "You can't."
Ruben protests, "I'm 26! Do you know who I am?"
The bartender answers, "Yeah, you're the guy I'm going to toss out of here if you don't quiet down!"

Ruben's dark Chicano eyes are blazing. He tells the bartender . . .
"Well then, get all the cholos from the kitchen and tell them to bring their lunches, it's going to be an all day affair!"

Suddenly, big Brian Oldfield, all 6'8" & 280lbs of him, Lance Rentzel, heavyweight Kit Boursse', Gil King, Ronnie Cisneros, Seagren and our father-in law Karl Nelson (the most dangerous of all) are standing behind Ruben.

The manager quickly shows up and relieves the bartender of his duty that afternoon.
He apologized to Ruben and asks him for an autograph.
The "Maravilla Kid" drank on the house the rest of the day.

I'm not Mexican, and in the eyes of Ruben Navarro, neither was the bartender.
However, I love that food. When I have guests from out of the country or just out of town, I take them to El Cholo.

Call me a Gabacho, Gringo, Honky, Cracker, whatever. Just don't forget to call me if you want some company at El Cholo.
It's MY kinda place!


-Ricardo Farris, "El Gringo Bandito"
Rick, Thanks for sharing that. El Cholo to my knowledge is the oldest continuous running Mexican restaurant in Los Angeles. Though it is not my favorite Mexican restaurant it is one that Jeri and I eat at every so often. I enjoy their food. We eat at the El Cholo's in La Habra. The menus are identical. The food is somewher between authentic and commercial but still very good.

Randy
Randy . . . As I mentioned, I'm a gringo and would never second guess you, Frank or Rog on quality Mexican food. However, El Cholo's holds special memories and from a Gringo stand point, I love the food.


-Rick
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Dom DeLuise dies at 75; actor was a 'naturally funny man'

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Dom Deluise, shown in 1996, died today at the age of 75.
The Brooklyn-born entertainer was a regular on TV variety shows in the 1960s and provided comedic support in movies for actors such as Mel Brooks and Burt Reynolds.

By Dennis McLellan
May 5, 2009

Dom DeLuise, the mirthful, moon-faced comic actor who was a regular on Dean Martin's television variety show in the 1970s and provided frequent comedic support in movies starring Mel Brooks and Burt Reynolds, has died. He was 75.

DeLuise died Monday evening at St. John's Health Center in Santa Monica, said DeLuise's agent, Robert Malcolm. DeLuise's wife and three sons were with him when he died. The family did not release the cause of death.

"He was a naturally funny man," film critic Leonard Maltin told The Times on Tuesday. "He didn't need a script to be funny, but smart people like Mel Brooks knew how to give him just the right setting and showcase."

Brooks told The Times that his good friend "created so much joy and laughter on the set that you couldn't get your work done. So every time I made a movie with Dom, I would plan another two days on the schedule just for laughter.

"It's a sad day. It's hard to think of this life and this world without him."

Reynolds, in a statement released by his publicist, said: "As you get older and start to lose people you love, you think about it more and I was dreading this moment. Dom always made you feel better when he was around and there will never be another like him."

The Brooklyn-born entertainer, who got his start on stage and in children's television in the 1950s, emerged on TV variety shows in the 1960s.

The same decade, he launched his film career, including early roles in comedies such as "The Glass Bottom Boat" and "What's So Bad About Feeling Good?"

But he was best known for his movie work with Brooks and Reynolds.

Beginning with playing a greedy family priest in Brooks' "The Twelve Chairs" in 1970, DeLuise went on to appear in Brooks' “Blazing Saddles,” "Silent Movie," “History of the World: Part I,” "Robin Hood: Men in Tights" -- as well as supplying the voice for the mozzarella-oozing Pizza the Hutt in Brooks' "Star Wars" parody, "Spaceballs."

With Reynolds, DeLuise appeared in "Smokey and the Bandit II," "The Cannonball Run," "Cannonball Run II," "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas" and "The End," the latter in which DeLuise had a field day playing a frenzied schizophrenic.

The visually and verbally funny actor also appeared with Gene Wilder in "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother," "The World's Greatest Lover" and "Haunted Honeymoon" -- as well as in Neil Simon's "The Cheap Detective" and "Sextette," starring Mae West.

DeLuise also starred in and directed the 1979 comedy "Hot Stuff," and he starred in "Fatso," a 1980 comedy-drama written and directed by Brooks' wife, actress Anne Bancroft.

"He was one of these people who was gifted with the ability to make people laugh," close friend Carl Reiner told The Times Tuesday. "I always say that between him and Mel Brooks, it was a tossup over who can make you laugh fastest and harder."

Until the 1970s, DeLuise was known primarily as a television personality.

While appearing in Meredith Willson's 1963-64 Broadway musical "Here's Love," DeLuise did a comedy routine as an inept magician, Dominick the Great, on Garry Moore's popular variety show.

That appearance helped pave the way for his becoming a regular on "The Entertainers," a short-lived variety show starring Carol Burnett, Caterina Valente and Bob Newhart that ran on CBS from 1964 to '65.

In 1966, DeLuise was a regular on "The Dean Martin Summer Show," a variety summer replacement program starring comedians Dan Rowan and Dick Martin.

Two years later, he hosted "The Dom DeLuise Show," his own comedy-variety summer series on CBS. His wife, Carol Arthur, a Broadway actress whom he married in 1965, was one of the regulars.

"I never met anybody like him," she told The Times in 1999. "He was just so much bigger than life, and he was so funny. I thought, 'This is the way to spend a lifetime.' "

In the early '70s, DeLuise was a staple on “The Dean Martin Show,” occasionally singing in numbers with Martin and his guests and playing everything from a barber to a king's jester to a trench coat-wearing police inspector in sketches with Martin.

DeLuise told The Times in 2005 that the show's producer-director, Greg Garrison, gave him great confidence as a comedian.

"Greg was the man who said, 'Just go for it; I trust you,' " he recalled. "I was allowed to ad-lib a great deal with Dean."

In a golfing sketch with Martin and Bing Crosby, DeLuise played their loud, bad-joke-spouting caddy who arrives at a tee in a golf cart topped with a colorful umbrella: "I'm sorry I'm late," he said. "I had a flat tire. That's the first time I had a hole in one."

Getting clubs off the back of the cart, DeLuise hands Crosby two clubs and says, "Here is your nine iron."

Crosby: "These aren't nine irons."

DeLuise: "I know; I lost your nine iron, so I got you a seven and a two -- unless you want an eight and a one. Or a four and a five."

DeLuise, who also appeared in some of Martin's "Celebrity Roast" specials, didn't fare as well as the star of his own TV series.

"Lotsa Luck," a situation comedy in which he played a bachelor New York City bus company's lost-and-found department custodian, ran on NBC from 1973 to 1974.

He also starred in the 1987-88 syndicated sitcom "The Dom DeLuise Show," in which he played a Hollywood barber and widowed single father of a 10-year-old daughter.

And in 1991, he hosted the short-lived syndicated return of the classic comedy-reality show "Candid Camera."

Over the years, DeLuise appeared on Broadway a number of times, including replacing James Coco as Barney Cashman in "Last of the Red Hot Lovers," the Neil Simon comedy that ran from 1969 to 1971.

As an actor, he provided the voice of Tiger in the animated movie "An American Tail," as well as its sequels and TV series. He also did voices for, among other animated films, "The Secret of NIMH," "All Dogs Go to Heaven" and "Oliver & Company."

He even occasionally performed with opera companies, including appearing in the Los Angeles Opera Company's "Orpheus in the Underworld" and playing Frosh the Jailer in a New York Metropolitan Opera Company production of"Die Fledermaus."

As long as he was entertaining people, he was happy, DeLuise told The Times in 1992.

"I like the whole process," he said. "I've never gone to work and wanted to do something else."

The son of Italian immigrants -- his father was a city garbage collector, his mother a full-time homemaker -- he was born Dominick DeLuise in Brooklyn, N.Y., on Aug. 1, 1933.

The third of three children, DeLuise developed an interest in acting after playing Scrooge in a junior high school production of "A Christmas Carol" and went on to graduate from the High School of Performing Arts in New York.

"I became a comedian when they laughed at my serious acting," he said in a 1997 interview with The Times.

He spent summers at the Cleveland Playhouse, where he appeared in productions as varied as "Guys and Dolls" and "Hamlet." In 1958, he had a stint as the fourth and final Tinker the Toymaker, the host-performer-instructor on "Tinker's Workshop" on Channel 7 in New York City.

And in the early '60s, he was a semi-regular on "The Shari Lewis Show," a Saturday morning children's show on NBC in which he played the bumbling private detective Kenny Ketcham.

Although his parents were supportive of his career, DeLuise told The Times in 1999, "I was really in this acting thing alone. My father was a peasant, a blue-collar worker, who was amazed that I got paid for what I do. He used to say, 'If you can make money with your mouth, God bless you!' "

DeLuise, whose girth grew greater over the years -- reportedly weighing 325 pounds in 1999-- was obviously a man who loved to eat. He also loved to cook.

In the late '80s, he wrote a cookbook containing his favorite Italian recipes, "Eat This: It'll Make You Feel Better," which was followed by "Eat This Too!"

"When I was a kid," he wrote in the first book, "if I had a fever, had a cold, had a fight, had a fall, had a cut, was depressed, had a disappointment, fell off a truck, woke up with a headache . . . no matter what the situation, my mother's solution was always, 'Eat this, it'll make you feel better.' "

DeLuise, who had a second career as a celebrity chef, also wrote a number of children's books, including "Charlie the Caterpillar" and "The Pouch Potato."

In addition to his wife, DeLuise is survived by their three sons, Peter, Michael and David; his sister, Anne; and three grandchildren.

Services will be private.

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Manny Pacquiao rocks the Conga Room

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THE GLOVES ARE OFF: Manny Pacquiao shakes hand with the supporters during an event in celebration of his second-round knockout victory against Ricky Hatton.

The boxer known as 'Pac-Man' follows his Hatton knockout by singing in downtown L.A. -- after the Laker game, of course. Why not? He's already released a couple of singles in the Philippines.

By Yvonne Villarreal
May 5, 2009

Manny "Pac-Man" Pacquiao may be called the world's top pound-for-pound boxer, especially after a second-round knockout victory against Ricky "The Hitman" Hatton over the weekend in Las Vegas. But Monday night he was, pound-for-pound, the greatest singer in the world -- at least to some of those in attendance at the Conga Room in downtown Los Angeles to celebrate his victory.

"Tonight he can sing all night," trainer Freddie Roach said at the event benefiting the Manny Pacquiao Foundation, which supports underprivileged individuals in the Philippines. "You fight hard, you get to have fun . . . but not too much."

Projection screens in the Latin-infused nightclub showed boxing footage of Pacquiao as hundreds crowded the floor in anticipation of the International Boxing Organization and Ring magazine's world light welterweight champion. With Pacquiao scheduled to sing at 9 p.m., some drank and others danced as they waited. And waited.


But the 30-year-old Filipino boxing superstar was late to his own party because, like many Angelenos on Monday night, he was watching the Lakers take on the Houston Rockets in Game 1 of their Western Conference semifinal series -- just across the way from the Conga Room, in the crowd at Staples Center.

It wasn't long before fans -- some wearing shirts with Pacquiao's face emblazoned on them -- began chanting, "Manny! Manny! Manny!" By 11:30 p.m., the People's Champion (another of his many nicknames) had arrived. His first stop: the stage.

Outfitted in a cream-colored suit and surrounded by his entourage and fans, Pacquiao grabbed a mike and unleashed his vocal flair -- no match for his powerful left hook, but still displayed on numerous YouTube videos -- alongside Filipino singer Lito Camo. A sea of brightly lighted cellphone screens and camera flashes filled the space as Pacquiao crooned "Lahing Pinoy," which also served as his entrance song for his fight with Hatton:

"Sumigaw ang pinoy -- HOY!!

Ang lahat ng pinoy -- HOY!!

Ang lahi ng pinoy sa mundo

Pilipino"

Fans sang the song, which celebrates Filipino pride, along with their icon.

"We just recorded that before the fight," Pacquiao said, addressing the mostly Filipino crowd. "Next time I'm going to make an English song for everyone."

Pacquiao's global reach isn't limited to jabs and punches. His performance Monday night hinted at stardom outside the ring; in the Philippines, he's already previously released two songs. And he wouldn't be the first boxing powerhouse to venture into entertainmen.

Sugar Ray Robinson unsuccessfully attempted a career as an entertainer after his boxing career ended. Two-time world heavyweight boxing champion George Foreman, now a successful businessman perhaps best known for the George Foreman brand grills, briefly starred in his own sitcom on ABC, "George." And, in 2000, Oscar de la Hoya released a self-titled Latin pop album that was nominated for a Grammy.

If the roar of Pacquiao's fans during his performance is any indication, there are plenty of people who would flock to buy a future album release.

"Not only is he a good athlete, but he's a great entertainer," said Robert Lyons, 51, a fan from Ranchos Palos Verdes. "He has a way of capturing the hearts of everyone. It's great to see . . . and it's now great to listen."

Listen they did. Shortly after midnight, Apple from the Black Eyed Peas got behind the DJ booth and, as 1 a.m. neared, Pacquiao joined him onstage for another round of vocal bobbing and weaving. During the half-hour set, he performed the song he's most famous for, "Para Sa Iyo," and three other songs from an album scheduled to be released in the Philippines before the end of the year.

The crowd was his.

Victorious in the ring. Now, at least for one night, victorious on the stage.

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raylawpc wrote:
Randyman wrote:
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Frank,
Since you know much about west coast boxing and boxers maybe you can answer this question for me. I recently watched some video of Jerry Quarry and noticed that he kept his right heel up. Was that a habit that he developed by himself or did he have a trainer early in his career who taught that? Do you know if any trainer ever tried to break Quarry of that habit? Thanks.

Les
Les, I know exactly what you are referring to. However, I have no idea how he learned that, if it was something he developed on his own, or was taught, etc.??? I was close with Jerry when he was being trained by Teddy Bentham, at the height of his pro career, and never heard anybody mention this. However, I will ask this, if something ain't broke, why fix it???

Jerry moved well on his feet, punched with dynamite, could box with balance and speed. Why would anybody want to change this??? If Jerry had a problem, it was not related to his feet.


-Rick Farrisw

It's funny, I never noticed it before but once actually hearing about it, yeah he was prone to doing that. Thinking about now, it was obvious he was using the ball of his foot to pivot.

Scartissue
Dan, Mel Epstein always had me on the balls of my feet. It increased my mobility and I was always ready with the right hand at a moments notice. Having the right heel up seems perfectly normal to me.

Randy

I was taught to keep my right heel up slightly. I think most fighters who learned to box circa 1940 through 1970 were taught to keep their right heel up. However, since Dan mentioned it, I think one noticed it more on Jerry Quarry because he kept the heel unusually high.
Tom, I too was taught to keep my right heel up slightly, and that the way I taught my boys,
I always thought that Jerry kept his up too high, he used to pick his heel up with a bend of the right knee that he used to do.
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Yes, it was very noticable. It also appeared that he kept his feet a little too close together from time-to-time. But it seemed to work for him.
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A Frankie Duarte fact. . .

A lot of fans are unaware that Frankie Duarte is primarily Native American.
His family is Pima Indian, and even get a cut from Casino revenue from the Pima Casino is Arizona.


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kikibalt wrote:Dom DeLuise dies at 75; actor was a 'naturally funny man'

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Dom Deluise, shown in 1996, died today at the age of 75.
The Brooklyn-born entertainer was a regular on TV variety shows in the 1960s and provided comedic support in movies for actors such as Mel Brooks and Burt Reynolds.

By Dennis McLellan
May 5, 2009

Dom DeLuise, the mirthful, moon-faced comic actor who was a regular on Dean Martin's television variety show in the 1970s and provided frequent comedic support in movies starring Mel Brooks and Burt Reynolds, has died. He was 75.

DeLuise died Monday evening at St. John's Health Center in Santa Monica, said DeLuise's agent, Robert Malcolm. DeLuise's wife and three sons were with him when he died. The family did not release the cause of death.

"He was a naturally funny man," film critic Leonard Maltin told The Times on Tuesday. "He didn't need a script to be funny, but smart people like Mel Brooks knew how to give him just the right setting and showcase."

Brooks told The Times that his good friend "created so much joy and laughter on the set that you couldn't get your work done. So every time I made a movie with Dom, I would plan another two days on the schedule just for laughter.

"It's a sad day. It's hard to think of this life and this world without him."

Reynolds, in a statement released by his publicist, said: "As you get older and start to lose people you love, you think about it more and I was dreading this moment. Dom always made you feel better when he was around and there will never be another like him."

The Brooklyn-born entertainer, who got his start on stage and in children's television in the 1950s, emerged on TV variety shows in the 1960s.

The same decade, he launched his film career, including early roles in comedies such as "The Glass Bottom Boat" and "What's So Bad About Feeling Good?"

But he was best known for his movie work with Brooks and Reynolds.

Beginning with playing a greedy family priest in Brooks' "The Twelve Chairs" in 1970, DeLuise went on to appear in Brooks' “Blazing Saddles,” "Silent Movie," “History of the World: Part I,” "Robin Hood: Men in Tights" -- as well as supplying the voice for the mozzarella-oozing Pizza the Hutt in Brooks' "Star Wars" parody, "Spaceballs."

With Reynolds, DeLuise appeared in "Smokey and the Bandit II," "The Cannonball Run," "Cannonball Run II," "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas" and "The End," the latter in which DeLuise had a field day playing a frenzied schizophrenic.

The visually and verbally funny actor also appeared with Gene Wilder in "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother," "The World's Greatest Lover" and "Haunted Honeymoon" -- as well as in Neil Simon's "The Cheap Detective" and "Sextette," starring Mae West.

DeLuise also starred in and directed the 1979 comedy "Hot Stuff," and he starred in "Fatso," a 1980 comedy-drama written and directed by Brooks' wife, actress Anne Bancroft.

"He was one of these people who was gifted with the ability to make people laugh," close friend Carl Reiner told The Times Tuesday. "I always say that between him and Mel Brooks, it was a tossup over who can make you laugh fastest and harder."

Until the 1970s, DeLuise was known primarily as a television personality.

While appearing in Meredith Willson's 1963-64 Broadway musical "Here's Love," DeLuise did a comedy routine as an inept magician, Dominick the Great, on Garry Moore's popular variety show.

That appearance helped pave the way for his becoming a regular on "The Entertainers," a short-lived variety show starring Carol Burnett, Caterina Valente and Bob Newhart that ran on CBS from 1964 to '65.

In 1966, DeLuise was a regular on "The Dean Martin Summer Show," a variety summer replacement program starring comedians Dan Rowan and Dick Martin.

Two years later, he hosted "The Dom DeLuise Show," his own comedy-variety summer series on CBS. His wife, Carol Arthur, a Broadway actress whom he married in 1965, was one of the regulars.

"I never met anybody like him," she told The Times in 1999. "He was just so much bigger than life, and he was so funny. I thought, 'This is the way to spend a lifetime.' "

In the early '70s, DeLuise was a staple on “The Dean Martin Show,” occasionally singing in numbers with Martin and his guests and playing everything from a barber to a king's jester to a trench coat-wearing police inspector in sketches with Martin.

DeLuise told The Times in 2005 that the show's producer-director, Greg Garrison, gave him great confidence as a comedian.

"Greg was the man who said, 'Just go for it; I trust you,' " he recalled. "I was allowed to ad-lib a great deal with Dean."

In a golfing sketch with Martin and Bing Crosby, DeLuise played their loud, bad-joke-spouting caddy who arrives at a tee in a golf cart topped with a colorful umbrella: "I'm sorry I'm late," he said. "I had a flat tire. That's the first time I had a hole in one."

Getting clubs off the back of the cart, DeLuise hands Crosby two clubs and says, "Here is your nine iron."

Crosby: "These aren't nine irons."

DeLuise: "I know; I lost your nine iron, so I got you a seven and a two -- unless you want an eight and a one. Or a four and a five."

DeLuise, who also appeared in some of Martin's "Celebrity Roast" specials, didn't fare as well as the star of his own TV series.

"Lotsa Luck," a situation comedy in which he played a bachelor New York City bus company's lost-and-found department custodian, ran on NBC from 1973 to 1974.

He also starred in the 1987-88 syndicated sitcom "The Dom DeLuise Show," in which he played a Hollywood barber and widowed single father of a 10-year-old daughter.

And in 1991, he hosted the short-lived syndicated return of the classic comedy-reality show "Candid Camera."

Over the years, DeLuise appeared on Broadway a number of times, including replacing James Coco as Barney Cashman in "Last of the Red Hot Lovers," the Neil Simon comedy that ran from 1969 to 1971.

As an actor, he provided the voice of Tiger in the animated movie "An American Tail," as well as its sequels and TV series. He also did voices for, among other animated films, "The Secret of NIMH," "All Dogs Go to Heaven" and "Oliver & Company."

He even occasionally performed with opera companies, including appearing in the Los Angeles Opera Company's "Orpheus in the Underworld" and playing Frosh the Jailer in a New York Metropolitan Opera Company production of"Die Fledermaus."

As long as he was entertaining people, he was happy, DeLuise told The Times in 1992.

"I like the whole process," he said. "I've never gone to work and wanted to do something else."

The son of Italian immigrants -- his father was a city garbage collector, his mother a full-time homemaker -- he was born Dominick DeLuise in Brooklyn, N.Y., on Aug. 1, 1933.

The third of three children, DeLuise developed an interest in acting after playing Scrooge in a junior high school production of "A Christmas Carol" and went on to graduate from the High School of Performing Arts in New York.

"I became a comedian when they laughed at my serious acting," he said in a 1997 interview with The Times.

He spent summers at the Cleveland Playhouse, where he appeared in productions as varied as "Guys and Dolls" and "Hamlet." In 1958, he had a stint as the fourth and final Tinker the Toymaker, the host-performer-instructor on "Tinker's Workshop" on Channel 7 in New York City.

And in the early '60s, he was a semi-regular on "The Shari Lewis Show," a Saturday morning children's show on NBC in which he played the bumbling private detective Kenny Ketcham.

Although his parents were supportive of his career, DeLuise told The Times in 1999, "I was really in this acting thing alone. My father was a peasant, a blue-collar worker, who was amazed that I got paid for what I do. He used to say, 'If you can make money with your mouth, God bless you!' "

DeLuise, whose girth grew greater over the years -- reportedly weighing 325 pounds in 1999-- was obviously a man who loved to eat. He also loved to cook.

In the late '80s, he wrote a cookbook containing his favorite Italian recipes, "Eat This: It'll Make You Feel Better," which was followed by "Eat This Too!"

"When I was a kid," he wrote in the first book, "if I had a fever, had a cold, had a fight, had a fall, had a cut, was depressed, had a disappointment, fell off a truck, woke up with a headache . . . no matter what the situation, my mother's solution was always, 'Eat this, it'll make you feel better.' "

DeLuise, who had a second career as a celebrity chef, also wrote a number of children's books, including "Charlie the Caterpillar" and "The Pouch Potato."

In addition to his wife, DeLuise is survived by their three sons, Peter, Michael and David; his sister, Anne; and three grandchildren.

Services will be private.

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MAY 5TH

"So who can tell me what Cinco De Mayo stands for?"
Half the hands in the class went up. That was a first for me. I'd been teaching U.S. History at the school for nine years. I'd never seen so many hands go up. Since Maximillian's rule in Mexico was not a part of my curriculum,I'm not suppose to teach about it. But on May 5th I always allow myself the opportunity.

"Manny. Your hand was up first."
"It was about the battle of Puebla," he answered.
Manny was a heavy set Mexican kid. Round face. Always cracking jokes.
"Did you learn that here or in Mexico?",I asked him.
"Mr. Wasson told us about it in 1st period English class today."
"Do you know who the Emperor's name was?"
"I forgot",he said with a big grin.
"Does anyone know who the Mexicans fought?"
"The Americans,"yelled Yolanda from the corner of the room.
"No,it was...anyone?"
"I think it was the French",said Manny with a laugh.

I thought that that was about it for Cinco De Mayo.
"What do we need to know that stuff for?"snarled Yolanda."It's a waste of time."
In back of where Yolanda was sitting several students broke out laughing.
"What's going on?" I said in my stern voice.
"Oh,"said Yolanda with a big smirk. "Joey farted."
The class started to laugh.
"Come up here Yolanda. Here's an after school detention slip."
Yolanda trodded up to my desk.
"What did I say?" as she rolled her eyes.

Just then the bell rang to end the period. The kids rushed out the door noisily. It was now 3rd period. My class preparation period. But I did all my prep work for the day early in the morning before school started.Before the other teachers got there. That way I could rest. Doze off during 3rd period.

I locked the door from the outside. Turned off the lights. I put a CD in my little boom box. Charlie Parker recorded at The Rockland Palace in Harlem. 1952. I guess that night some fan had brought a tape recorder to tape the sessions of Charlie Parker and the Quintet that night. The tapes weren't discovered until 20 years after Parker's death .They were in someone's attic. Historians guess the was played around 3 or 4 in the morning. The sound is distant. Sounding far away. You can here the noise in the backround of the people talking,shouting. A constant hum of human sound being carried along by Charlie Parker's alto.

Parker started the set off with one of his mainstays,"Out Of Nowhere." I've listened to it a thousand times. As I sat back in my chair with the lights out and the door locked ,I closed my eyes. I didn't turn the volume up too much. The notes from the alto echoed across the darkened classroom. My nose began to tingle. It souded like something from out of nowhere.
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"Pedro" . . .

It was 1967 when Johnnie Flores took his top ranked featherweight contender, Dwight "The Hawk" Hawkins, down to Tampico, Mexico to face Mexican Featherweight champ, Aurielo Muniz, in a ten rounder. Hawkins would flatten Muniz in seven rounds, out cold. However, as so often is the case in Mexico (i.e. Napoles-Muniz I), the American fighter got screwed.

The officials declared that Flores cost his fighter the KO win by stepping up onto the ring canvas before the count of ten was completed. Hawkins was disqualified. After Flores protested the verdict, the bout was declared a 10rd. draw. Go figure?

While in Mexico, Hawkins used a 18-year-old sparring partner named, Pedro Rodriguez. When they returned to L.A., Pedro came with them and Hawkins' co-manager, Hal Benson, put the kid to work at the Disabled American Veterans shop in Glendale. He also gave the kid a place to live. Although just a young man, Pedro had been fighting pro since the age of fourteen and was a good fighter. He would also prove a reliable spasrring partner for the brutal punching Hawkins. When the two would square off at the Main street Gym, Pedro would wear a foam padded ski vest to protect his body from Hawkins brutal attack to the stomach and ribs.

I would get to know Pedro very well, and even would box with him at Johnnie's back yard gym in Pacoima. At the time, he hadn't yet learned English, but would communicate with my grandfather who spoke fairly fluent Spanish. My grandad would invite him to our home in Burbank for dinner on a couple of weekend occasions, and my Grandmother loved him like a grandson. We became friends, and he'd show me a few things about body punching.

About a month after arriving, he'd be matched with future bantamweight champ, Rafael Herrera, in a ten round main-event at the Olympic. Pedro fought the tough, top ranked bantam contender close in the early rounds, and gave Herrera all he could handle before dropping a decision.

A month later he would travel to San Franciso to fight another up and coming bantam in Filippino Rollie Penaroya of Stockton. Again losing a close, exciting fight, according to Johnnie. The following month, he'd headline once agagin at the Olympic, and this time fight on dead even terms with future featherweight title challenger, Jose Pimentel, twin of bantam contender Jesus.

My dad, grandfather and I were ringside for this one. Pedro whipped Pimentel and was robbed, losing a majority decision. Judge George Latka had it 5-5, a draw. The Olympic crowd showered the ring with cups of beer and booed for five minutes.

Pedro would continue to prove a hard fighting stepping stone to a number of top contenders and future world champs, In 1969, he'd travel to Osaka, Japan and take on featherweight champ, Shozo Saijyo in a non-title bout, losing a decision to the champ in a close one, according to Flores and Benson. He was then off to Caracus, Venezuela to take on another future featherweight champ, the late Cruz Marcano, once again losing after putting up a game performance.

By this time Pete was speaking English fluently and had married a lady he had met in Glendale. I was growing into a bantam myself and was now able to give him stiff competition in gym workouts. I remember after our last workout looking into his dark eyes. He looked tired. His eyebrows were now laced with scar tissue, his nose flattened, he was starting to look like an old fighter, however his voice was still young and his boyish smile still in tact. He was barely 21.

He pulled me aside and in perfect English pointed out something about my defense. As always, after each workout, he would turn coach. It was great that we could now communicate better. In the beginning, our conversation hinged on my broken Spanish, now he spoke perfect English. During those years since Johnny brought him to L.A. he continued to work regularly with Hawkins, right up to the time "The Hawk" retired in '69. That in itself would ruin any fighter. He'd also go on the road, fighting the best in their hometowns, places like Honolulu, Oakland, San Bernardino, San Antonio, San Jose and his very last stop, San Diego.

In S.D., he'd end his career in a place I have come to call "The Graveyard" for L.A. fighters, the Coliseum. He took some time off when his wife had a baby, and had found a good job in a machine shop off San Fernando Road near Lincoln Heights. I didn't see him for months until one day he showed up at the Main Street Gym, shortly before I made my pro debut. His hand was in a cast. I immediatly went over to Pedro to say "hello" and asked about his hand.

"It got stuck in a piece of machinery at work, and I lost a thumb and a finger", he said. "Now I'll be a trainer." There was no sign of sadness or self pity over the crippling, career ending accident. Another baby was on the way. The smile was still ever present.

My grandfather had passed two years previous, and Pedro had joined Johnnie Flores at the funeral. My grandmother cried when I told her of Pedro's accident. "That poor boy. Please tell him he and his family are welcome for dinner. Grandpa loved him." Flores put Pedro in charge of working with me for a couple of weeks, but then he just disappeared. To my knowledge, he never returned to the gym.

I have a feeling things turned out OK for Pedro and his family. This man was a survivor, and always had that smile on his face. However, I never saw any of his opponents smiling after they fought him.

While reflecting on days gone by, the thought of Pedro brought a smile to my face. Yeah, he's doing all right. I'd bet on it!


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By Jerry Crowe
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For Cinco de Mayo, USA Today blogger Reid Cherner made a list of his favorite athletes of Mexican heritage: Fernando Valenzuela, Oscar De La Hoya, Anthony Munoz, Lee Trevino, Nancy Lopez and Lorena Ochoa. . . .

Others he could have listed: two-time Super Bowl winner Jim Plunkett; tennis great Pancho Gonzales; former NFL player and coach Tom Flores; Olympic gold medal-winning swimmer Donna de Varona; pro football Hall of Famer Tom Fears; and Ted Williams, whose maternal grandparents were born in Mexico. . . .

Speaking of the San Diego-bred Williams, the last major leaguer to hit .400 once reportedly noted, "If I was being paid $30,000 a year, the very least I could do was hit .400." .
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Boxer Flores, 25, dies after fight

Boxer Benjamin Flores, 25, has died five days after he was hospitalized after a title bout with Al Seeger in a Dallas hotel.
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Rick...Thanks for that very well written anecdote on Pedro Rodriquez.
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kikibalt wrote:Rick...Thanks for that very well written anecdote on Pedro Rodriquez.
Desperatly Seeking Pedro . . .

Thank you, Frank. You may have met him (?).
I once attempted to find him, in the 80's, when I was very busy in the film industry.
I know that with his loss of a thumb and finger, he'd be challenged finding work.
In my end of the business, you need both hands for many jobs, but he was a man who could adabt.
I thought I could personally train him, familiarize him with the lighting equipment, rigging sets, etc.
I had two crews working for me when I was with Michael Landon, one with me on the set and another that rigged and pre-lit sets.
My thought was to get him the days necessary to qualify for Union membership. The benefits are great and the money is good, as well.
Then he'd have a home with us on Highway To Heaven, and afterwards the connections to continue on his own, when not working with me.
I went to his old machine shop, no luck.
Called Johnnie Flores and the family of the late Hal Benson. No luck.
You can imagine how many Pedro (or Pete) Rodriguez listings there are in phone books, I tried dozens. No luck.
The Main street Gym had recently been torn down, but I tried others gyms. No luck
Perhaps he returned to Mexico. Who knows?


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kikibalt wrote:Boxer Flores, 25, dies after fight

Boxer Benjamin Flores, 25, has died five days after he was hospitalized after a title bout with Al Seeger in a Dallas hotel.

When A Boxer Dies . . .


I hate reading this. Less than two years ago, Gwen Adair invited me and an actress I was dating at the time, to the "Sage Brush Cantina" in Calabasas where a promoter was holding a pro card in the parking lot.

In a four round prelim, a mid-20's boxer from New Mexico, named Jackson Bruesell, fought on even terms with a featherweight from Oxnard. It was a good action fight, but neither appeared to be rocked, or taken any major blows. There was no blood. Both finished strong.

The decision was announced, a "draw", which was a good call. Bruesell met his opponent in the center of the ring after the decision, and the two hugged each other. He then turned and as he walked away, appeared to lose his balance. Suddenly he dropped to the canvas and lay on his back. The ringside physician, and ref Marty Denkin (who also had ref'd the Pintor-Johnny Owens ill-fated match) attend to the boxer. Others in the ring gathered around him. At first his eyes were open, then closed.

My lady friend didn't understand what was happening, but I was having chilling thoughts. I'd seen this before, more than once. We were sitting in the first row and I could see there was a problem. A stretcher was immediatly sent into the ring and the comatose young boxer removed to a waiting ambulence which had pulled within 50 yards of the ring.

My girlfriend had never attended a boxing match, and was enjoying the action until this happened. She was concerned for the boxer and I tried to calm her by saying that it was necessary to take him to the hospital "just to be safe". However, I knew the kid was in serious trouble. A tounge depressor had been put in his mouth and his face had turned blue. Oxygen was immediatly applied as carried him to the ambulence.

"Rick, let's go to the hospital, bring him flowers, or something." She said.
I told her not to worry, and that I'd call the hospital the next day, when he had time to recover. However, I knew he would never recover, not fully. I kept thinking of Johnny Owen, Kiko Bejines, Davey Moore and Richie Sandoval.

After the main event, we spoke with Gwen and Vince Delgado, who were judging the match. "Have you heard anything?" we asked.
Gwen shook her head, "Nothing yet." I could see the look in Gwen's eyes, and Vince's. They'd also seen this before.

My friend and I left, I changed the subject on the ride home, but she had been affected by what she had seen. We returned to my place, and about 3am the phone rings. It was Gwen. "Rick, he passed away. I was told he was dead on arrival."

My friend was shocked. "We were just going to see some fights, not somebody die," she said.
What could I say?


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R.I.P. Benjamin Flores . . .

This young boxer died yesterday, just 19 days prior to his 25th birthday.
He'd been fighting professionally for just over five years and entered the ring for his last bout (6 days ago) with a record of 19-3 (6 KO's).
He had only beenstopped once, in a bout held three years ago at the Maywood Center, just outside downtown Los Angeles.

Most of his bouts had been held in Texas, he was a native of Michoacan, Mexico.
His last bout was for the NABF Super Bantamweight Championship.
I never sar Flores in the ring, but a photo of him is posted here in Boxrec, in the bio part of his record. Good looking young man, smiling.

As I write this, I keep hearing a song play in my head . . . Simon & Garfunkle's "The Boxer."


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Sat.January 29. 1949, L.A. Times sports page.
Ad for Golden Gloves, lower right


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kikibalt wrote:Sat.January 29. 1949, L.A. Times sports page.
Ad for Golden Gloves, lower right


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Frank . . . This page is a classic. The Golden gloves were held over three nights at the Hollywood Legion Stadium.
This was back in Hap's day at the Legion. Sponsored by the L.A. Times Charities.
Today the L.A. Times avoids covering boxing, on rare occasions a big fight might make a back page.
The days of Jim Murray, John Hall and Allan Malamud are long gone.
When the Chandler Family ran the paper, it was brilliant.
However, after selling out to the Chicago based Tribune Co. the publication is a rag and almost bankrupt.

Also on that page is a story about Jim Jeffries donating his trunks, scrap books and memorabelia to the Helm's Boxing Hall of Fame, at the old Helms Bakery Sports Museum on Venice Blvd. in Culver City. Today the Helm's Bldg is a historic Los Angeles landmark, but the sports stuff is long history. Today the buildings are used for furniture and interior decorating boutiques. Last year Monica and I went there to purchase some furniture.


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Those were great days Kiki and Rick. I remember them well because we worked with the Times' people in charge of the tournament, a group headed by two terrific guys, Heisman Trophy winner Glen Davis and his boss, Pro football coach Paul Schissler, who was also Director of Special Evens for the paper. Standing room only for three full nights of quality amateur boxing.

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CARTOLANDIA

Crossing over the bridge to get to centro ,you'd see the shacks underneath. No lights,running water. At night small fires was the only light. The fires burned the trash and provided some heat in the wintertime.I remember a lot of grizzly looking dogs running around. Wild and scary looking. The smells and crackling noises of the tortillas and beans cooking on tin cans . Someone would have a radio on playing Oaxacan music. The music sounded out of tune. When it would rain there were no fires and the shacks would be under water. When the water receded the people would start over again. They called this area under the bridge Cartolandia.

Mostly Indians from the state of Oaxaca lived there. They'd come up fom buses and arrive in Tijuana. They'd head right for Cartolandia. There they would feel safe. People from their home state. As long as they stayed there,no one bothered them.

The shacks were constructed of old garage doors,discarded wood,beat up aluminum siding,and cardboard. Thet's how the place got its name. The Indians who lived there sold stuff in the streets. Laquered dolls made of paper mache,beads,multi colored cloth headbands , necklaces,and bracelets . Some Indian women,their short squat bodies, braided hair, wearing the mendiles, would bring their small children with them to the ramp leading back to the border. Their children would juggle tennis balls. Some kids would sing. Some begged. Others stole when the chance arose. The men worked stoop labor jobs in the city.They all spoke that funny dailect that sounded like chickens clucking.

All this was tolerated. Even accepted as part of the culture. Everything was OK as long as they stayed in Cartolandia.Besides, the Oaxacans never killed anybody.

There was a vaxant field next to Cartolandia. When a traveling circus would come to town,it would set up tents and put up pens for the animals on the vacant lot.There'd be a lot of lights and noise. Mexicans love circuses. It was never expensive. Let them have circuses. Trinkets,baloons,and clowns.

One time a carnaval came to Tijuana and set up the rides on the vacant lot. The big attraction was the ferris wheel. There were long lines waiting to get on every day and night. But something terrible happened. With a full load of people,the ferris wheel toppled over. 19 people lost their lives. What caused this to happen was never explained.

Shortly afterwards, Cartolandia was demolished. The Oaxacan Indians had to leave. I don't think it had anything to do with them personally. Mexicans don't like to remembered by the sight of a tragic event. They cleared out the area and made it into a parking lot for taxi cabs.

It was a shame that ferris wheel had to fall there. But where else were they going to put it?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkZ9CZaFdkM

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