Hatton speaks.....

[deadpan]

It beggars belief that no-one has in his entourage has dropped him a hint about how odious he appears when he slips into the 'Ricky Hatton' tourettes. He's lucky that Spitting Image isn't about these days as they'd have honed in on that 'quirk' like a harbour shark (copyright Frank Bruno after Tyson 2).

[banjo]

I see he managed a final third person reference.

i hate the 3rd person it makes me cringe

Who is this third person? The man with no name.

[banjo]

It beggars belief that no-one has in his entourage has dropped him a hint about how odious he appears when he slips into the 'Ricky Hatton' tourettes. He's lucky that Spitting Image isn't about these days as they'd have honed in on that 'quirk' like a harbour shark (copyright Frank Bruno after Tyson 2).

Maybe his entourage were talking about this Ricky Hatton fella so Ricky decided to talk about him too.

[DG.]

Its all about 24/7 trailers and having a craic.

No good Hatton preparing in a sweat pit with John Breen, running up hills where camera's cant get with Enzo Calzaghe.

You need some colour, something quotable, someone to help convince people change is possible, to sell the dream, sell the fantasy. DLH cant do that. So you need lead parts being handed out to good actors.

I'm sure Kenny Branagh could have done The DaVinci Code better than Hanks, but Hanks puts bums on seats, he's guaranteed box office.

Its abvout numbers, promos - Mayweather is wrong for Ricky on every aspect you look at. Time-Zone, Style, History, Personality - everything.

But he's had good box-office lately, so he gets the job. Lee Beard is clearly who Hatton has gravitated to rightly or wrongly but Mayweather helped hype the fight.

I suspect that the Mayweather decision came from three directions:

The first was that DLH and Hatton seem pretty chummy, and if DLH was called, he would have said Mayweather straight away, because, for some reason, the Golden Boy is gushing when it comes to Mayweather’s abilities.

Second, Hatton's got a strange logic: “If I beat Pacquiao, I'm pound for pound champion,” was not, I think, only a case of promoting the fight. There was a hint of belief in there, and one or two other things that I heard in the build up to this (which I can’t recall this instance) were the logic I'd expect from a dullard down the pub who repeats whatever he reads in the Sun rather than an articulate young man. Given that, I wonder whether something in Hatton's brain clicked: I need a big name American, and since Floyd sr created Floyd jr, who beat me, therefore I should get Floyd in the corner. Silly, but I have a horrible feeling that had something to do with it.

Third, he loves Lee Beard, and, given that Beard learned everything he knows (which I'm not sure is worth a pitcher of warm spit) from Mayweather, and got into boxing from working with Mayweather, that he recommended him, too. If Hatton wanted to keep Beard, he might have figured that Mayweather was the best mesh.

I might be wrong with all three, but I’m just throwing them out.

Anyway, why on earth anyone thinks that a world class fighter going into hard, hard, elite level fights would pick a novice trainer who has about as much experience of boxing as the average martial arts trainer or gym instructor with a healthy interest in watching the big fights, is beyond me.

The difference between Roach -- whose tactical, strategic, technical and training knowledge literally oozed through the TV/computer screen every time I watched him -- and the Hatton camp was palpable. Hatton had enough disadvantages against a perfect fighting machine without being further stymied by being led by Captain Mainwaring in a battle against a man led by Georgiy Zhukov.

Blinking flip, Carbo!

Do you ever do any work?

[Carbo]

Its all about 24/7 trailers and having a craic.

No good Hatton preparing in a sweat pit with John Breen, running up hills where camera's cant get with Enzo Calzaghe.

You need some colour, something quotable, someone to help convince people change is possible, to sell the dream, sell the fantasy. DLH cant do that. So you need lead parts being handed out to good actors.

I'm sure Kenny Branagh could have done The DaVinci Code better than Hanks, but Hanks puts bums on seats, he's guaranteed box office.

Its abvout numbers, promos - Mayweather is wrong for Ricky on every aspect you look at. Time-Zone, Style, History, Personality - everything.

But he's had good box-office lately, so he gets the job. Lee Beard is clearly who Hatton has gravitated to rightly or wrongly but Mayweather helped hype the fight.

I suspect that the Mayweather decision came from three directions:

The first was that DLH and Hatton seem pretty chummy, and if DLH was called, he would have said Mayweather straight away, because, for some reason, the Golden Boy is gushing when it comes to Mayweather’s abilities.

Second, Hatton's got a strange logic: “If I beat Pacquiao, I'm pound for pound champion,” was not, I think, only a case of promoting the fight. There was a hint of belief in there, and one or two other things that I heard in the build up to this (which I can’t recall this instance) were the logic I'd expect from a dullard down the pub who repeats whatever he reads in the Sun rather than an articulate young man. Given that, I wonder whether something in Hatton's brain clicked: I need a big name American, and since Floyd sr created Floyd jr, who beat me, therefore I should get Floyd in the corner. Silly, but I have a horrible feeling that had something to do with it.

Third, he loves Lee Beard, and, given that Beard learned everything he knows (which I'm not sure is worth a pitcher of warm spit) from Mayweather, and got into boxing from working with Mayweather, that he recommended him, too. If Hatton wanted to keep Beard, he might have figured that Mayweather was the best mesh.

I might be wrong with all three, but I’m just throwing them out.

Anyway, why on earth anyone thinks that a world class fighter going into hard, hard, elite level fights would pick a novice trainer who has about as much experience of boxing as the average martial arts trainer or gym instructor with a healthy interest in watching the big fights, is beyond me.

The difference between Roach -- whose tactical, strategic, technical and training knowledge literally oozed through the TV/computer screen every time I watched him -- and the Hatton camp was palpable. Hatton had enough disadvantages against a perfect fighting machine without being further stymied by being led by Captain Mainwaring in a battle against a man led by Georgiy Zhukov.

Blinking flip, Carbo!

Do you ever do any work?

I write fast, baby.

[Max Molyneux]

Manny shouldn't of had the p4p no 1 until Joe retired. Manny's talent is inferior to Joe's.

Hatton shouldn't of got KO'ed by an ex featherweight again either.

[DG.]

Manny shouldn't of had the p4p no 1 until Joe retired. Manny's talent is inferior to Joe's.

Hatton shouldn't of got KO'ed by an ex featherweight again either.

Word!

[Spud]

I really do not believe Lee Beard should be taking stick here!!

He is an average guy who has been thrust into the limelight and has a chance to make some money for himself - good luck to him I say!!!

Beard is taking sh*t here and other places that should be specially reseved for certain other personalities of Team Hatton - Lee is okay - have any of you lot bothered to speak to him?

[Adamj1987]

I see he managed a final third person reference.

That really irritates me, I feel like saying you are f@cking Ricky Hatton, stop talking about Ricky Hatton as if he is someone you know, its you FFS!

this is why im not a fan of hatton outside the ring and inside i dont like his style but this irritates the hell out of me more than tired cliches

[WayoftheCass]

But the guy is right in that he only ever lost to the best of the best. Mayweather and Pacquiao, are, and will be in the future, involved in serious discussions about the greatest fighters, pound for pound, ever.

BUT THEY ARE THE ONLY 2 FIGHTERS HE HAS FACED THAT WERE IN THEIR PRIME AND ELITE.

They both knocked him out.

That is the thing to look at, the fact he had two figths against prime fighters and was stretched both times, and hardly landed eff all in 12 rounds.

Outclassed both times.

Destroyed.

Crushed and mashed down.

Never prepared to beat a live fighter,the MEN and Fwank ruined him.


ALSO,THEY WERE BOTH SMALLER MEN ON THE NIGHT..

Yeah your right. He was utter shite. And lets face it even if he had beaten them then we would be able to factor in something else to denigrate those wins like Manny used to be a flyweight and Floyd was past it. In fact when you think about it they were both shite aswell. I mean Manny was held to a draw and many thought he lost to JMM ( a guy who lost to Freddie Norwood and Chris John for crying out loud) so he was obviously all hot air. And Floyd. I mean who did he actually ever beat? Hatton, Gatti, Corley, Mitchell, N'Dou, that Argentinian at welter, and old ODLH and Hernandez and Corrales, Castillo ( won robbery in the first) and Manfredy who were hardly all time greats. Now I think of it pretty much every fighter operating today and indeed in the last 100 years can have all sorts of stats and facts used and twisted in order to belittle what ever they allegedly achieved. Its all smoke and mirrors. Ever fighter ever has sucked period. Thank you!

[WayoftheCass]

I see he managed a final third person reference.

That really irritates me, I feel like saying you are f@cking Ricky Hatton, stop talking about Ricky Hatton as if he is someone you know, its you FFS!

this is why im not a fan of hatton outside the ring and inside i dont like his style but this irritates the hell out of me more than tired cliches

Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield and a whole plethora of other fighters have also been guilty of this sin to.

[hurlock]

there's a recession on as we all know about.25'000 brits go to support him,& he gets wiped out shockingly easy.
there was issues of mw snr running late to training they even filmed him stop of at a drive threw!!
the sparring wasnt filmed of hatton as they wouldnt allow it as he was taking a beating reported from the 24/7 crew to roach who they know well over previous shows.
he was running the day b4 etc.which is poor.couldnt look @ mw when he got back to the corner as he was late again so beard got him ready.
nobody expects an apology,but would like to know the stories behind the cracks rather then hatton flog a book or somthing.

your views.

[WayoftheCass]

there's a recession on as we all know about.25'000 brits go to support him,& he gets wiped out shockingly easy.
there was issues of mw snr running late to training they even filmed him stop of at a drive threw!!
the sparring wasnt filmed of hatton as they wouldnt allow it as he was taking a beating reported from the 24/7 crew to roach who they know well over previous shows.
he was running the day b4 etc.which is poor.couldnt look @ mw when he got back to the corner as he was late again so beard got him ready.
nobody expects an apology,but would like to know the stories behind the cracks rather then hatton flog a book or somthing.

your views.

Mayweather Snr.'s an asshole and recovering junkie who struggles to string a sentence together and dresses like a pimp. Hatton was stupid for going with him. He should have stayed with Billy Graham. I seriously doubt he would have been clocked so quickly under the Preacher's guidance though I still would have no doubt that Manny would have won.

[Matt W]

I have always been suspicious of Mayweather as a trainer as all of his talk is about himself. Contrast with Roach, who commented he looks good because of what Manny does. Different class.

Hatton should retire I think. He can't top what he's already achieved and he owes nothing - he's given his all and fought the best (Witter nuthuggers please ignore....). Pacquiao confirmed what the Lazcano fight suggested - his punch resistance has gone. Unfortunately I think it will be too hard for his pride to go out following Saturday so I think he will fight again.

[MightyWarrior]

Yeah I think his punch resistance may have gone now, at top level, as a KO like that, in the twilight of your career, is going to leave a major fault line, in his chin and his confidence.

No worries, he'll still be a folk hero in this country, once the shock wears off, having gone out on his shield like that. He kept getting up, didn't he.

I think Graham would have helped some, as you have to credit the way Billy drilled into him NOT to get hit by the Tszyu right hand - he was barely clocked cleanly that night, so aware was he that he had to steer clear of the right hand all night, at all costs.

Against PacMan, chin in the air, he didn't give a toss if he was hit ( untill he really was HIT ) so confident was he that'd he'd walk through the smaller man's punches like he was facing a peashooter.

[Spud]

The early talk is that he will be wheeled out to face Katsidis. We had the 'homecoming', this will be the 'farewell', he should call it a day. He has nothing to prove to anyone.

And if he wins that fight - telling you now the crys for a fight with Khan will get bigger!!!

He should retire now - he has done an immense amount for British Boxing and is a credit to the sport - nothing else to prove

[Rocky Balboa]

Who actually see the interview on Sky Sports News last night? Ricky was nearly in tears & if he was not wearing sunglasses, I think we may have seen a tear or two! I think he's really devastated, more-so than he was when he lost to Mayweather!

Its the manner of the defeat which is probably the hardest pill for Ricky to swallow! Going by the way he spoke yesterday, I'm not too confident he will be able to get over this mentally enough to enable him to box on & box well!

He was talking about promoting & how he wants to pursue that, so going by this sort of talk, maybe he will call it a day! I think Ricky will take his time over making a decision.

Has Billy Graham said anything since the defeat? He tipped Hatton to win in about eight rounds!

[Carbo]

But the guy is right in that he only ever lost to the best of the best. Mayweather and Pacquiao, are, and will be in the future, involved in serious discussions about the greatest fighters, pound for pound, ever.

BUT THEY ARE THE ONLY 2 FIGHTERS HE HAS FACED THAT WERE IN THEIR PRIME AND ELITE.

They both knocked him out.

That is the thing to look at, the fact he had two figths against prime fighters and was stretched both times, and hardly landed eff all in 12 rounds.

Outclassed both times.

Destroyed.

Crushed and mashed down.

Never prepared to beat a live fighter,the MEN and Fwank ruined him.


ALSO,THEY WERE BOTH SMALLER MEN ON THE NIGHT..

Yeah your right. He was utter shite. And lets face it even if he had beaten them then we would be able to factor in something else to denigrate those wins like Manny used to be a flyweight and Floyd was past it. In fact when you think about it they were both shite aswell. I mean Manny was held to a draw and many thought he lost to JMM ( a guy who lost to Freddie Norwood and Chris John for crying out loud) so he was obviously all hot air. And Floyd. I mean who did he actually ever beat? Hatton, Gatti, Corley, Mitchell, N'Dou, that Argentinian at welter, and old ODLH and Hernandez and Corrales, Castillo ( won robbery in the first) and Manfredy who were hardly all time greats. Now I think of it pretty much every fighter operating today and indeed in the last 100 years can have all sorts of stats and facts used and twisted in order to belittle what ever they allegedly achieved. Its all smoke and mirrors. Ever fighter ever has sucked period. Thank you!

DD

[DG.]

But the guy is right in that he only ever lost to the best of the best. Mayweather and Pacquiao, are, and will be in the future, involved in serious discussions about the greatest fighters, pound for pound, ever.

BUT THEY ARE THE ONLY 2 FIGHTERS HE HAS FACED THAT WERE IN THEIR PRIME AND ELITE.

They both knocked him out.

That is the thing to look at, the fact he had two figths against prime fighters and was stretched both times, and hardly landed eff all in 12 rounds.

Outclassed both times.

Destroyed.

Crushed and mashed down.

Never prepared to beat a live fighter,the MEN and Fwank ruined him.


ALSO,THEY WERE BOTH SMALLER MEN ON THE NIGHT..

Yeah your right. He was utter shite. And lets face it even if he had beaten them then we would be able to factor in something else to denigrate those wins like Manny used to be a flyweight and Floyd was past it. In fact when you think about it they were both shite aswell. I mean Manny was held to a draw and many thought he lost to JMM ( a guy who lost to Freddie Norwood and Chris John for crying out loud) so he was obviously all hot air. And Floyd. I mean who did he actually ever beat? Hatton, Gatti, Corley, Mitchell, N'Dou, that Argentinian at welter, and old ODLH and Hernandez and Corrales, Castillo ( won robbery in the first) and Manfredy who were hardly all time greats. Now I think of it pretty much every fighter operating today and indeed in the last 100 years can have all sorts of stats and facts used and twisted in order to belittle what ever they allegedly achieved. Its all smoke and mirrors. Ever fighter ever has sucked period. Thank you!

Utter shite? I od not say Hatton was utter shite.

Every word I posted is the truth.

He was destroyed by the ONLY 2 FIGHTERS he faced that were elite/prime.

Did he even hit PBF?

Freddie Norwood and Chris John were better ( and were in their prime unlike KT) than all the fighter Hatton faced bar Pacman and PBF.

Castillo and Corralles were deadly fighters when they faced PBF, does Hatton hae anything on his record to match them?

NO!

JMM - PBF and PACMAN all had fights against world class fighters and held their own and won!

JMM and PACMAN were never 40-0 against mediocre fighters.

Hatton = KT

Every other victory was a dead cert.

Hatton had a very good career, but he was hurt by being over protected and not fighting good hungry fighters on the way up.

Its no coincidence that he became Pacmans quickest win in over 7 years, and the only fighter Pacman has stretched for over 3 minutes.

Levels, my friend, levels.

Pacman A

Hatton B-

Hatton is not top level.


DD

[Carbo]

BUT THEY ARE THE ONLY 2 FIGHTERS HE HAS FACED THAT WERE IN THEIR PRIME AND ELITE.

They both knocked him out.

That is the thing to look at, the fact he had two figths against prime fighters and was stretched both times, and hardly landed eff all in 12 rounds.

Outclassed both times.

Destroyed.

Crushed and mashed down.

Never prepared to beat a live fighter,the MEN and Fwank ruined him.


ALSO,THEY WERE BOTH SMALLER MEN ON THE NIGHT..

Yeah your right. He was utter shite. And lets face it even if he had beaten them then we would be able to factor in something else to denigrate those wins like Manny used to be a flyweight and Floyd was past it. In fact when you think about it they were both shite aswell. I mean Manny was held to a draw and many thought he lost to JMM ( a guy who lost to Freddie Norwood and Chris John for crying out loud) so he was obviously all hot air. And Floyd. I mean who did he actually ever beat? Hatton, Gatti, Corley, Mitchell, N'Dou, that Argentinian at welter, and old ODLH and Hernandez and Corrales, Castillo ( won robbery in the first) and Manfredy who were hardly all time greats. Now I think of it pretty much every fighter operating today and indeed in the last 100 years can have all sorts of stats and facts used and twisted in order to belittle what ever they allegedly achieved. Its all smoke and mirrors. Ever fighter ever has sucked period. Thank you!

Utter shite? I od not say Hatton was utter shite.

Every word I posted is the truth.

He was destroyed by the ONLY 2 FIGHTERS he faced that were elite/prime.

Did he even hit PBF?

Freddie Norwood and Chris John were better ( and were in their prime unlike KT) than all the fighter Hatton faced bar Pacman and PBF.

Castillo and Corralles (!!) were deadly fighters when they faced PBF, does Hatton hae anything on his record to match them?

NO!

JMM - PBF and PACMAN all had fights against world class fighters and held their own and won!

JMM and PACMAN were never 40-0 against mediocre fighters.

Hatton = KT

Every other victory was a dead cert.

Hatton had a very good career, but he was hurt by being over protected and not fighting good hungry fighters on the way up.

Its no coincidence that he became Pacmans quickest win in over 7 years, and the only fighter Pacman has stretched for over 3 minutes.

Levels, my friend, levels.

Pacman A

Hatton B-

Hatton is not top level.


DD

Peak Corrales? Now I know you're not with it. He was dead at the weight. And didn't he, like, have to go to prison or something soon after?

Anyway, Mayweather was clearly better than Hatton, in the ring and in terms of record and legacy. But Mayweather is probably, along with the Pac-Man the best fighter of his generation, and one of the best ever, so of course Hatton is below that.

But saying Corrales was in peak condition shows how much you know about boxing.

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

Ricky Hatton has told Sky Sports that he intends to become the "greatest promoter in the world", even though he is still not sure if he will box again.

The Hitman saw his hopes of becoming the best pound-for-pound fighter disappear inside six minutes against Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas at the weekend.

A stunning stoppage loss saw the British boxer surrender his IBO light-welterweight title - and was quickly followed by talk of his retirement.

Still devastated at the outcome, Hatton admitted in an exclusive interview with Sky Sports News that he was yet to decide over whether to hang up his gloves or not.
Future plans

However, the Mancunian already has plans for a future outside the ring, insisting he will not "drift off into the distance" and leave the sport entirely.

"I really don't know at the minute because I never thought that (the second-round knockout) was going to happen," he said after being asked about his future in the ring.

"People are still going to see plenty of me. I'm going into promoting now and I've got a future with the youngsters. They are going to be fulfilling my dreams from here on in.

"I've worked with so many promoters and I believe I can do a great job at it.

I believe I've been a great world champion, the best in the world.

I believe I can be the greatest promoter in the world, that's the next avenue down which I'm going to go.

"But as far as physically boxing myself, I don't know what I'm going to do at the minute.

"I'm not going to drift off into the distance - boxing is my game. Sky Sports have been with me from absolutely day one. Whatever decision I make on my future Sky will be the first to know."

The 30-year-old believes the bout at the MGM Grand could have had a different outcome if he hadn't suffered such a horrendous start.

Pacquiao put him down twice in the opening round before finishing the fight just before the bell to end the second with a chilling left hook.

"If we'd have gone a few rounds it could have been different, but he caught me with practically the first punch he threw to be honest," Hatton insisted.

"I'd rather have been knocked out in two rounds than have somebody that has out-classed me for the full duration.

"I've lost twice and I've lost to the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world, it's not a bad way of looking at it, but I'm devastated.

"Maybe it could have been different, but that's boxing."

Support

Hatton - who had previously only suffered defeat at the hands of Floyd Mayweather Jnr - was quick to pay tribute to his army of supporters.

"I'm not going to say I'm the greatest British world champion we've ever had but one thing that isn't up for discussion is that there's never been a world champion from Great Britain that has had a fan base like Ricky Hatton," he added.

"In a credit crunch 30,000 people have come here this weekend. I think the most anyone else has ever had is 10,000. Nobody has ever had support like that.

"Whatever I decide to do, the following that I've had throughout my career has blown every other champion out of the water. For that I will be forever grateful."

worse than Hitler..

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

Hatton seemed caught between two stools,

I now have an image in my head of Hatton trapped between 2 enormous turds, for some reason.

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

so..predictably ricky says he has only been beaten by the 2 best P4P fighters on the planet.....bit of an about turn id say, 3 days ago we were being told to put our mortgage on his victory, which surely was paying pacman no respect.

why isnt ricky saying that pacman deserves a lot of credit for being better than he thought, that he is sorry for misleading all the fans...etc etc

because that makes no sense whatsoever?

[DG.]

But saying Corrales was in peak condition shows how much you know about boxing.

I never said he was in PEAK CONDITION, it was his peak in terms of age and ability!

Not PBF's fault that Corralles pigged out!

Corralles was still at Super feather 3 years later so that smashes your theory to bits!

Take your primitive knowledge of the sport and come back when you are on my level.

And stop ADDING word to my posts, I said AT HIS PEAK not in PEAK CONDITION, but the fact he was still at the weight shows us all that Diego was just over eating..or bluffing about not being able to make 9st 4lbs.


CARBO, I AM A LEVEL - YOU ARE C-!


Here comes the smiley!


DD

[Khaosai-Galaxy]

It beggars belief that no-one has in his entourage has dropped him a hint about how odious he appears when he slips into the 'Ricky Hatton' tourettes. He's lucky that Spitting Image isn't about these days as they'd have honed in on that 'quirk' like a harbour shark (copyright Frank Bruno after Tyson 2).

It beggars belief that people on this forum seem to forget that Ricky Hatton is probably the biggest ticket seller in the history of British boxing and responsible for the biggest ever PPV in the history of TV in the UK.


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