here we go again

[beduff]

here we go again audley says he knows nothing about this fight or the press conference with skelton and is not going to turn up this guys a prick and obvious to me after all his shouting about being a world champ lacks confidence in his own ability.

[J]

To be honest im sick to the back teeth of all these match ups being made only to go tits up at the last minute, its very damaging for the sport, not only to the man in the street but also us die hards who must be getting dissillusioned, dissenchanted and thoughly fed up with all this. I know I am.

Bring on Haye thompson at least there we have a couple of guys who arent afraid to take the plunge, credit to em.


I need some inspiration to get me back on track. (tho danny helped!)

[BubiScholz]

no problem, Julius Francis is always there for a fight.

[J]

fornicate you are starting to bore me with this shit.
i cant post about anything withouth you bringing up danny wililams or audley and how ruibbish they are and how great kraniqi is, leave it will ya.

[jamesmcdonnell]

We can hold our heads up high in this country. At least we have never seen anything as the corruption of the Ottke v Reid fight.

[dondada]

here we go again audley says he knows nothing about this fight or the press conference with skelton and is not going to turn up this guys a prick and obvious to me after all his shouting about being a world champ lacks confidence in his own ability.

The thing is, Audley is a very proud/stubborn bloke and he will NOT let it be seen that FW is leading from the front. I honestly think that unless it is made clear that it is a co-promotion, that both sides had to give leeway, it won't happen.

But I think they'll get there quite soon.

[BubiScholz]

Reid was boxing like shit and got warnings. a real corruption was Sturm-Tortilla.

BTW I love Julius Francis

[dondada]

Reid was boxing like shit and got warnings. a real corruption was Sturm-Tortilla.

BTW I love Julius Francis

Ottke boxed like shit for the last part of his career and didn't get warnings. Reid would have smashed him to bits given a level playing field. If you weren't German, I'd think you were a fornicating troll.

[Kilburn]

The thing is, Audley is a very proud/stubborn bloke and he will NOT let it be seen that FW is leading from the front. I honestly think that unless it is made clear that it is a co-promotion, that both sides had to give leeway, it won't happen.

Yeah this is what it's all about. Audley doesn't want people thinking he's suddenly become a allegedly / Sky TV fighter.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Reid was boxing like shit and got warnings. a real corruption was Sturm-Tortilla.

BTW I love Julius Francis

Are you fornicating blind? Why is it German fight fans are so blind to how shit Ottke really was against Reid.

Ottke didn't land serious blow for the 1st 6 rounds, Oh yes, Reid got warnings, he was warned every single time he landed a punch on Ottke.

Tillerman is known to be corrupt anyhow, he was in the pocket IBF official Montello, who is good friends with Sauerland, having holidayed with Sauerland and his family in italy before, and was seen giving a large gold watch to Sauerland.

Funny how also Sauerland and his promotional team were seen having dinner in the hotel with the IBF official, the referee, and EVEN THE JUDGES. Is this standard practice in Germany, to have all the officials dining with the promoter?

The scoring for that bout was quite unbelievable, Ottke did NOTHING for the first 6 rounds, and yet somehow Reid was behind by the 8th round. The judges had quite obviously made their minds up as to the result, no matter what Reid did. The referee even refused to count a knockdown, and even helped Ottke up off the canvas!!!

That was the most obviously corrupt fight I have ever seem, and I'm sorry Bubi, but if you cannot bring yourself to admit that, then you are not a boxing fan, but merely a pratt.

Sturm was at least allowed to fight against DLH, Reid was warned at one point for landing a left hook!!

[BubiScholz]

Im no Ottke-fan. But in this fight Reid got too much warnings and points deducted.

Since Ottke has retired the whole hatred of all Ottkehaters went over to me. Only because I don´t like the hype concerning boxers who haven´t reached anything like Harrison or Williams.

I think I leave Boxrec where guys outside Britain and the US are obviously not welcome....

[Chambers]

The thing is, Audley is a very proud/stubborn bloke and he will NOT let it be seen that FW is leading from the front. I honestly think that unless it is made clear that it is a co-promotion, that both sides had to give leeway, it won't happen.

Yeah this is what it's all about. Audley doesn't want people thinking he's suddenly become a allegedly / Sky TV fighter.

I agree, both sides need to come out of these negotiations on an even keel else it won't happen.

[beduff]

Reid was boxing like shit and got warnings. a real corruption was Sturm-Tortilla.

BTW I love Julius Francis

facts germany aint got know good fighters name me one?there all bottle jobs who need a lot of help from refs and judges

[J]

Oh come on bubi ive had conversations with you b4 and you have stated that the reid fight was a load of bollox, ill do a search and dig them out if you like.

Secondly you know you are welcome but over the past week all you have been doing is repeating yourself over and over again.

I know from talking to you on numerous occasions that you are far more knowledgable and intelligent than this so I can only assume you are on a total wind up this week.

So dont moan when people get wound up then with the incessent derogatory comments to the british fighters being discussed.

If you keep sticking your fingers up a dogs arse dont be surprised if it turns around and bites you.

oh yeah and dont drink vodka with a pole.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Im no Ottke-fan. But in this fight Reid got too much warnings and points deducted.

Since Ottke has retired the whole hatred of all Ottkehaters went over to me. Only because I don´t like the hype concerning boxers who haven´t reached anything like Harrison or Williams.

I think I leave Boxrec where guys outside Britain and the US are obviously not welcome....

The point is, he shouldn't have been getting those warnings, what were they for, there were no bloody infractions. Can you tell me wha

Ottke is a wanker of the highest order, he basically had the referee in his pocket, and used him to prevent his opponent hitting him. Every single time Ottke looked at the referee Reid got a warning, it was a farce!!

Brian Hughes told me himself, that he told Reid to stop throwing as many shots and try and nail Ottke with a big shot to end the fight, because he was convinced that the referee would DQ him if he kept on throwing shots.

Funny how after that the referee stopped warning Reid, he'd done his dirty work by then, and got what he wanted.

I'm sorry, but your attitude is typical of most of the german boxing fans I've spoken to, who refuse to accept any criticism of their fighters, and don't realise that most of their fighters would get the shit kicked out of them if they fought anywhere but germany. At least in the UK we criticise Hatton and Calzaghe for not going after the big prizes abroad. I have nothing against Germans, but German boxing fans give me the shits, they refuse to ever admit there is anything wrong with German boxing.

Even with the deductions, I still had Reid winning by 2 clear rounds, Ottke just didn't do anything for most of the fight, and Reid clearly won the first 5 rounds, that should have been beyond dispute at Ottke didn't land any clean shots during that time. However, the judges awarded some of those rounds to Ottke, which was clearly corruption in evidence, they then tried to make it look respectable by giving Reid some of the later rounds, which strangely were the ones where Reid clearly lost the rounds, again, clear to me that it was in an effort to make their scorecards look more kosher.

[BubiScholz]

i didn´t offfend anybody personally. that´s the difference. and i can´t hear this ottke-shit anymore. the hole world hates him. only 10 millions or more germans don´t. but i tell you another thing i told you months ago. the main reaso ottke is hated is because germans are hated. and so here they hate Beyer, Michalczewski, Ulrich and the Klitschkos and whoever boxes in germany.

and i give you one reason for it: jealousy. it´s the same because the world hates M.Schumacher. he is the best and is german, he must be hated.

[J]

i didn´t offfend anybody personally. that´s the difference. and i can´t hear this ottke-shit anymore. the hole world hates him. only 10 millions or more germans don´t. but i tell you another thing i told you months ago. the main reaso ottke is hated is because germans are hated. and so here they hate Beyer, Michalczewski, Ulrich and the Klitschkos and whoever boxes in germany.

and i give you one reason for it: jealousy. it´s the same because the world hates M.Schumacher. he is the best and is german, he must be hated.

RUBBISH.
And i take great offence to you accusing me of xenophobia.
I bloody like the germans.
one also suggests that if you feel this way then you shouldnt attack anyone english and degrade them as crap, in this case harrison and williams, give danny at least some credit for what he did at the wekend, you havent said one positive thing.
Stop being a cry baby Bubi if you cant take it back dont dish it out mate.

[nickd]

i didn´t offfend anybody personally. that´s the difference. and i can´t hear this ottke-shit anymore. the hole world hates him. only 10 millions or more germans don´t. but i tell you another thing i told you months ago. the main reaso ottke is hated is because germans are hated. and so here they hate Beyer, Michalczewski, Ulrich and the Klitschkos and whoever boxes in germany.

and i give you one reason for it: jealousy. it´s the same because the world hates M.Schumacher. he is the best and is german, he must be hated.

dont mention the war. ;) ;)

[beduff]

the klitckos aint from germany i like them

[Matchfixer]

i didn´t offfend anybody personally. that´s the difference. and i can´t hear this ottke-shit anymore. the hole world hates him. only 10 millions or more germans don´t. but i tell you another thing i told you months ago. the main reaso ottke is hated is because germans are hated. and so here they hate Beyer, Michalczewski, Ulrich and the Klitschkos and whoever boxes in germany.

and i give you one reason for it: jealousy. it´s the same because the world hates M.Schumacher. he is the best and is german, he must be hated.

Ottke is hated because he has been given verdicts which he shouldn't have been given.

Not really too fussed about Bayer, M'ski, Ulrich or the Klitschkos or M Schumacher. In fact, it's good to see the most talented driver winning as it is not always the most talented who are the most succesful - Sven Ottke being an excellent example of this.

[BubiScholz]

i congratulate Williams the third time now. and i have respect for what he has done last friday. but he has to prove if he is not a one-hit-wonder. and he is not automatically now one of the best heavies.

Harrison is not seen in the rankings of WBC,IBF,WBA or WBO. and not mentioned at fightnews-ranking. these are facts.

and for the last time i only do not like the hype most british guys make concerning these guys. more hype than anybody made here for Lewis, a real champion.

[BubiScholz]

i didn´t offfend anybody personally. that´s the difference. and i can´t hear this ottke-shit anymore. the hole world hates him. only 10 millions or more germans don´t. but i tell you another thing i told you months ago. the main reaso ottke is hated is because germans are hated. and so here they hate Beyer, Michalczewski, Ulrich and the Klitschkos and whoever boxes in germany.

and i give you one reason for it: jealousy. it´s the same because the world hates M.Schumacher. he is the best and is german, he must be hated.

dont mention the war. ;) ;)

i don´t give a fornicate on the war. me and my father weren´t involved.

[dondada]

i congratulate Williams the third time now. and i have respect for what he has done last friday. but he has to prove if he is not a one-hit-wonder. and he is not automatically now one of the best heavies.

Harrison is not seen in the rankings of WBC,IBF,WBA or WBO. and not mentioned at fightnews-ranking. these are facts.

and for the last time i only do not like the hype most british guys make concerning these guys. more hype than anybody made here for Lewis, a real champion.

OK. Let's leave this one then. Of course you are welcome. And as J says, you are usually far more knowledgeable than your recent posts imply. The Boxrec referee informs me he's warning you and is taking a point off for fouling!

Just in case it's lost in translation...that was a (poor) joke.

[BubiScholz]

i understood that. thanks, mate

[J]

i didn´t offfend anybody personally. that´s the difference. and i can´t hear this ottke-shit anymore. the hole world hates him. only 10 millions or more germans don´t. but i tell you another thing i told you months ago. the main reaso ottke is hated is because germans are hated. and so here they hate Beyer, Michalczewski, Ulrich and the Klitschkos and whoever boxes in germany.

and i give you one reason for it: jealousy. it´s the same because the world hates M.Schumacher. he is the best and is german, he must be hated.

dont mention the war. ;) ;)

i don´t give a fornicate on the war. me and my father weren´t involved.

I have to say that was insensitvie at best 007 I know it was supposed to be joke but...
Bubi mate come on Ive enjoyed talking to you over the past months please dont think we hate germans trust me when I say I dont!!!
lets put it down to bad day mate!!! (and ive got a hangover so might not be at my most patient)
cheers for the props on danny and of course my hero!!!