'The Italian Stallion' Rocky Balboa

[HomicideHenry]

Above, Balboa wins via kayo in the 2nd round over Spider Rico

[Collins2000]

The Wakefield Walloper

[HomicideHenry]

Rocky Balboa's Professional Record:

Undated:

-Balboa turns pro in 1961 at the age of 15

'Big Baby' Krenshaw- L

1976:

Spider Rico- W KO 2nd

-Balboa was now 44-20-0 (38)

Apollo Creed- L 15 SD (Independance Day)

1977:

Apollo Creed- W KO 15th (Thanksgiving)

1977-1983:

10 successful title defenses

-Has a 'draw' against wrestling champion 'Thunderlips' in an exhibition

Clubber Lang- L KO 2nd

Clubber Lang- W KO 3rd

1984:

Ivan Drago- W KO 15th (Christmas)

=Retires=

Circa 1985:

Wins 'street fight' against Tommy 'The Machine' Gunn via KO

2006:

Mason Dixon- L 10 SD (Las Vegas, Nevada); exhibition


Record Total: 56-22-0 (51); though the film Rocky Balboa seems to count the Thunderlips exhibition on his record (hence the draw) I do not count it, nor do I count the street fight against Tommy Gunn.

[Collins2000]

Wrong forum, Rufus.

He was a character from a movie.

Remember?

[HomicideHenry]

I think he's relevant in a sense. Many a fighter were inspired by the movies to become boxers. And quite a few threads, in fact, have been made about Balboa in this forum. The best one I ever seen was one where the fictional characters of Creed/Lang/Drago were replaced by guys like Bowe and Tyson, asking the question of, "Based on this resume, would Balboa be the greatest HW of all time, if he was real?"

[Collins2000]

I think he's relevant in a sense. Many a fighter were inspired by the movies to become boxers. And quite a few threads, in fact, have been made about Balboa in this forum. The best one I ever seen was one where the fictional characters of Creed/Lang/Drago were replaced by guys like Bowe and Tyson, asking the question of, "Based on this resume, would Balboa be the greatest HW of all time, if he was real?"

Yeah, I enjoyed that. Thinking about someone crazy enough to do that type of in-depth "breakdown" made me laugh out loud.

The guy was having a laugh himself though surely?

But I can well understand you getting off on it though, Rufus.

[HomicideHenry]

You gotta admit Collins, if such a man did exist, that he would have to be right up there.

I will prolly catch alot of bullshit for saying so, and lose more of a reputation, but, I stick to my guns. The fictional Balboa is just as relevant to the history of boxing, as other notable classic fight films such as 'Fat City' and 'The Champ' and 'Diggstown', etc.

How many actual fighters were inspired by Rocky? That I have no answer for, but I can name you two greats who were:

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira- Multiple MMA champion

Johnny Tapia- multiple boxing champion at bantamweight, featherweight and flyweight

[Collins2000]

You gotta admit Collins, if such a man did exist, that he would have to be right up there.

I will prolly catch alot of bullshit for saying so, and lose more of a reputation, but, I stick to my guns. The fictional Balboa is just as relevant to the history of boxing, as other notable classic fight films such as 'Fat City' and 'The Champ' and 'Diggstown', etc.

How many actual fighters were inspired by Rocky? That I have no answer for, but I can name you two greats who were:

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira- Multiple MMA champion

Johnny Tapia- multiple boxing champion at bantamweight, featherweight and flyweight

And you too, Rufus. You'll be up there with those 2 names one day...

[HomicideHenry]

You suggesting I'm a great Collins?

[Collins2000]

You suggesting I'm a great Collins?

There's potential there, young man.

[HomicideHenry]

Maybe so, maybe no. I dont get a big head about anything. Am a realist when it comes to my own aspirations.

[boxing_fanatic_87]

Are you seriously telling me you're making a threat about Rocky Balboa's credential's and if he actually existed would he be one of the best ever? The character Rocky is a clubfighter who luckily gets a crack at the title and goes the distance in the first movie, in real life. In the rematch the Champion would train harder and take his clubfighter ass to school...end of story. No Rocky 3,4,5 or 6. End of discussion.

[Collins2000]

Burgess Meredith played a great part in the movie.

Of that there is no doubt!

[HomicideHenry]

Are you seriously telling me you're making a threat about Rocky Balboa's credential's and if he actually existed would he be one of the best ever? The character Rocky is a clubfighter who luckily gets a crack at the title and goes the distance in the first movie, in real life. In the rematch the Champion would train harder and take his clubfighter ass to school...end of story. No Rocky 3,4,5 or 6. End of discussion.

I think you've taken this more seriously than I have.

[boxing_fanatic_87]

I Guess so

[HomicideHenry]

Also, btw, Apollo Creed did take Rocky's 'ass to school' in the rematch. He won virtually every round, knocking down Balboa numerous times. His crazed ambition to knock him out, to fight Balboa's fight, proved without a shadow of a doubt, to be his down fall. All he had to do was stick and move in that final round, and he would have won the most lop sided decision in HW history next to Cobb/Holmes!

[Collins2000]

I said:

Burgess Meredith played a great part in the movie.

Of that there is no doubt!

[HomicideHenry]

amen collins

[Expug]

Burt Young , the actor who played "Paulie", managed Light Heavyweight David Sears who fought Michael Spinks.

[Collins2000]

Sears vs Edwards on here under '1980's Boxing'

http://www.tvsboxing.net/tv.cfm

Some other interesting bouts on there too.

[HomicideHenry]

Don't forget Tony Burton, who played as Apollo Creed's trainer in the first two installments, and later became Rocky's trainer in the third, fourth and sixth sequels. Burton, is best known as being a knockout victim of LaMar Clark's.

Also, remember Rocky 2, while in training for Apollo, that Rocky has a hell of a time catching that 'little speed ball'? That was none other than Roberto Duran making a cameo appearance!

Lots of facts and figures concerning the Rocky movies.

For example, the role of Clubber Lang was originally supposed to go to Joe Frazier. But since Frazier already done made an appearance in the first movie, it didnt seem to fit. Earnie Shavers tried out for the part, but was dismissed after landing a body shot on Stallone during rehearsals, which made Stallone hit the canvas and vomit right on the spot. Also, Ken Norton, was the original choice for Apollo Creed, but due to his illiteracy, he wasn't able to get the part.

One more fast fact! According to Tommy Morrison, who played Tommy Gunn in Rocky 5, he had an altercation with a stunt man who was dubbing for the Union Kane character. Evidentially the man had worked as both a bouncer and professional wrestler and talked alot of garbage on the set. Morrison, during filming, had enough, and his trade mark left hook landed FLUSH on the stunt man, knocking him out. A lawsuit was filed, but never collected.

[Collins2000]

Don't forget Tony Burton, who played as Apollo Creed's trainer in the first two installments, and later became Rocky's trainer in the third, fourth and sixth sequels. Burton, is best known as being a knockout victim of LaMar Clark's.

Also, remember Rocky 2, while in training for Apollo, that Rocky has a hell of a time catching that 'little speed ball'? That was none other than Roberto Duran making a cameo appearance!

Lots of facts and figures concerning the Rocky movies.

For example, the role of Clubber Lang was originally supposed to go to Joe Frazier. But since Frazier already done made an appearance in the first movie, it didnt seem to fit. Earnie Shavers tried out for the part, but was dismissed after landing a body shot on Stallone during rehearsals, which made Stallone hit the canvas and vomit right on the spot. Also, Ken Norton, was the original choice for Apollo Creed, but due to his illiteracy, he wasn't able to get the part.

One more fast fact! According to Tommy Morrison, who played Tommy Gunn in Rocky 5, he had an altercation with a stunt man who was dubbing for the Union Kane character. Evidentially the man had worked as both a bouncer and professional wrestler and talked alot of garbage on the set. Morrison, during filming, had enough, and his trade mark left hook landed FLUSH on the stunt man, knocking him out. A lawsuit was filed, but never collected.

Norton is illiterate?

Surely not.

[HomicideHenry]

Thats what I have always heard. But then again, Norton had acted in movies before (remember Mandigo?), so it does make you wonder.

[Mimmy]

What has this to do with the picture of Paul Sykes

[Collins2000]

What has this to do with the picture of Paul Sykes

Everything, mimmy, everything.