Calzaghe v Eastman - as daft as it sounds?

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 06 Aug 2004, 09:19

A young writer over at BBN, Ronnie McCluskey, has written an article on the above. At first glance, it sounds a crazy proposition.

But is it really? Neither seem to be going anywhere after all...

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 06 Aug 2004, 09:21

Makes sense from a fan's view point Ian, but the promoters are going to have to sort out a lot of "issues" first.

I've always hoped they would make this fight. Eastman would give Joe an excellent fight.

Calzaghe is fast running out of options...

Only the criminaly insane would want to see Calzaghe v Veit 2.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 06 Aug 2004, 09:24

MightyWarrior wrote:
Only the criminaly insane would want to see Calzaghe v Veit 2.

Thankfully the criminally insane are NOT in charge at the WBO and this fight wont happen.

Freeman Barr was number one for 18months but they never stripped Calzaghe for not facing him.

Scot Pemberton is my long-shot for J-C.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 06 Aug 2004, 09:28

In would be a good domestic clash I suppose but my question is always: Where would Eastman succeed where Charles Brewer failed? He doesn't do anything better than the American.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 06 Aug 2004, 09:32

Question is how prepared can J-C get following his long-layoff, injury and personal problems and if he cannot reach the heights of the Brewer fight (in which he still couldn't drop a guy who's no debutante when it comes to hitting the deck) then Eastman could well suprise him.

JC · Post by JC » 06 Aug 2004, 09:33

DavidPayne wrote:Scot Pemberton is my long-shot for J-C.

I think i might hold out for a shot at the winner of Hopkins De La Hoya instead

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 06 Aug 2004, 09:33

DavidPayne wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:
Only the criminaly insane would want to see Calzaghe v Veit 2.
Thankfully the criminally insane are NOT in charge at the WBO and this fight wont happen.

Freeman Barr was number one for 18months but they never stripped Calzaghe for not facing him.

Scot Pemberton is my long-shot for J-C.

good shout, Pemberton deserves a shot, but i'd rather not see it against Calzaghe. That said...rather him than Veit. He's excting (IMO, Pemberton-Sheika 2 could be the best fight of the year so far!) so for as long as it lasts it could be a decent fight while Calzaghe bides time.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 06 Aug 2004, 09:34

DavidPayne wrote:
Thankfully the criminally insane are NOT in charge at the WBO

No they are in charge of the WBC.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 Aug 2004, 09:38

I give Eastman precisely no chance against Calzaghe. He poses too much, doesn't hit hard enough to trouble him, and doesn't have the skills to outpoint Calzaghe. Eastman is a very good middleweight, and has talent, but he's not so good as to go up and beat Calzaghe at his natural weight.

journeyman · Post by **journeyman** » 06 Aug 2004, 09:39

007 wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:
Thankfully the criminally insane are NOT in charge at the WBO

No they are in charge of the WBC.

anyone heard these rumours about a light-heavy match with woods? sounds to me like that'd be a better proposition for j-cal than facing howard. it could set him up to crash the johnson/jones/tarver triumverate.

if it's true that warren can get tarver over here for $2.5m, tho, as has been reported he should snatch the floridian's hands off. a good fight against the magic man (even a losing effort) would leave him right in the mix. knocking off eastman or woods won;t help his profile stateside any.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 06 Aug 2004, 09:39

DavidPayne wrote:Question is how prepared can J-C get following his long-layoff, injury and personal problems and if he cannot reach the heights of the Brewer fight (in which he still couldn't drop a guy who's no debutante when it comes to hitting the deck) then Eastman could well suprise him.

I might need a bit more convincing than that Dave... 8)

Calzaghe is at his peak, and the injury (if there ever was one) isn't serious. Even if a little bit of inactivity does hamper him he couldn't ask for a more conventional style to sharpen up on than Eastmans.

Chris the fighter · Post by **Chris the fighter** » 06 Aug 2004, 09:46

Eastman as been quiet lately I think that he is just sitting on his ranking hoping for a shot but I don't think its work like that. Things could be clearer after Hopkins De la Hoya fight to unify the four main titles as I doubt the winner could keep them all. I have a thought that Hopkins may move up to face Tarver.
Calzaghe is just as stuck as Eastman but I doubt even FW will shove Calzaghe Veit 2 down our throats again. I don't tthink even Joe's most ardent fans would save the pennies for that one.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 Aug 2004, 09:58

Eastman hasn't made a case for himself, we all know that in today's climate mandatory defences are only mandatory if there isn't a bigger fight out there at the time. Fighters only get stripped (like Tszyu) if it is costing the sanctioning bodies money in sanctioning fees.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 06 Aug 2004, 10:05

journeyman wrote:triumverate.

fornicating good word. I vote for this as word of the week.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 06 Aug 2004, 10:13

Goz wrote:
journeyman wrote:triumverate.
fornicating good word. I vote for this as word of the week.

It certainly is, although it's spelled triumvirate. Originates from ancient Rome - a group of three men holding power, the First Triumvirate being Julius Caesar, Pompey and Crassus.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 06 Aug 2004, 10:13

Goz wrote:
journeyman wrote:triumverate.
fornicating good word. I vote for this as word of the week.

Agreed

.............what does it mean exactly?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 Aug 2004, 10:15

Three of something. Originally used for an official body, or also used commonly to signify the father son and holy ghost, or 'holy triumverate.'

journeyman · Post by **journeyman** » 06 Aug 2004, 10:45

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
Goz wrote:
journeyman wrote:triumverate.
fornicating good word. I vote for this as word of the week.
It certainly is, although it's spelled triumvirate. Originates from ancient Rome - a group of three men holding power, the First Triumvirate being Julius Caesar, Pompey and Crassus.

whoops

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 Aug 2004, 10:49

journeyman wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
Goz wrote: fornicating good word. I vote for this as word of the week.
It certainly is, although it's spelled triumvirate. Originates from ancient Rome - a group of three men holding power, the First Triumvirate being Julius Caesar, Pompey and Crassus.
whoops

Pompous git.

"I'm callin him a ponce, and now I'm callin' you a ponce.......PONCE!"
"I've been watching you, especially you, prancin' like a tit.....you want workin' on boy."

Name the film.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 06 Aug 2004, 10:52

I've waited almost three hours for someone to come in on their white charger and point this out.

I've known James too long to have done it.

We all still on for September 10th?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 Aug 2004, 11:03

Ah the spelling error. God, it must have killed you to keep that one bottled up.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 06 Aug 2004, 11:13

Almost.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 Aug 2004, 11:33

I cannot wait until September 10th, it should be a cracker, anyone know who is on the undercard yet, main event could be over quicker than a virgin's first shag.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 06 Aug 2004, 11:38

Eastman cannot outwork Calzaghe which is what he will need to do to win, i have seen in the schedules Eastman-Sendra penned in for a few months down the road. He is way too inactive but at least the Sendra fight has the potential to be competetive.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 Aug 2004, 11:42

Agreed, he let Joppy outwork him, and Calzaghe is every bit as active, and bangs with a lot more authority.