Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
Two big hitting, questionable chinned men. Both exciting and able
to trouble some of the sports tough men;
Lets suppose that the fates saw both these men meet one
another around 1993.
Bruno has yet to face defeat in a close match with Lewis
and Morrison has not lost in a shock upset to Bennt.
Both men are in good shape, know the others power and
assumed vunerablities.
Tommy Morrison comes in at 6'2 and 226lbs of fast hitting
muscles.
Frank Bruno is 6'3 and 235lbs of chiseled british armour.
12 round eliminator for a title shot against Lennox Lewis
or Riddick Bowe.
How do you guys see this one playing out ??
to trouble some of the sports tough men;
Lets suppose that the fates saw both these men meet one
another around 1993.
Bruno has yet to face defeat in a close match with Lewis
and Morrison has not lost in a shock upset to Bennt.
Both men are in good shape, know the others power and
assumed vunerablities.
Tommy Morrison comes in at 6'2 and 226lbs of fast hitting
muscles.
Frank Bruno is 6'3 and 235lbs of chiseled british armour.
12 round eliminator for a title shot against Lennox Lewis
or Riddick Bowe.
How do you guys see this one playing out ??
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Collins2000
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Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
I can picture either man KOing or being KO'd in this one.Robinson wrote:Two big hitting, soft chinned men. Both exciting and able
to trouble some of the sports tough men;
Lets suppose that the fates saw both these men meet one
another around 1993.
Bruno has yet to face defeat in a close match with Lewis
and Morrison has not lost in a shock upset to Bennt.
Both men are in good shape, know the others power and
assumed vunerablities.
Tommy Morrison comes in at 6'2 and 226lbs of fast hitting
muscles.
Frank Bruno is 6'3 and 235lbs of chiseled british armour.
12 round eliminator for a title shot against Lennox Lewis
or Riddick Bowe.
How do you guys see this one playing out ??
Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
But what a ride it would be for us at ringside or watching in
our living rooms.
our living rooms.
Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
Morrison by tko 1 as he was the faster starter. Could go either way of course but a distance fight is about as likely as a Wepner fight without blood.
Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
I agree. Soft jawed is not right.
As I mentioned in another thread. The 4 men to stop Bruno
were some of the sports hardest hitters.
And Morrison seemed to expose himself alot mid combination
which allowed him to get caught.
You are right... I retract that.
As I mentioned in another thread. The 4 men to stop Bruno
were some of the sports hardest hitters.
And Morrison seemed to expose himself alot mid combination
which allowed him to get caught.
You are right... I retract that.
Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
I just changed it to questionable.
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dempseyfire
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Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
Morrison's chin was pretty bad. Look at how many times he was hurt or dropped by B and C graders.
Bruno's chin wasn't great either but his problem seemed to be more mental as he'd seem to panic and freeze when he got wobbled.
I like Bruno here. Morrison never showed the ability to get past a guy with a good long jab (despite a come from behind KO of glass-chinned Williams) and I think by round 5 Morrison will start getting desperate, winging in haymakers that Bruno will counter and take him out with. Of course, if Tommy can land the left hook flush Frank is in trouble.
Bruno's chin wasn't great either but his problem seemed to be more mental as he'd seem to panic and freeze when he got wobbled.
I like Bruno here. Morrison never showed the ability to get past a guy with a good long jab (despite a come from behind KO of glass-chinned Williams) and I think by round 5 Morrison will start getting desperate, winging in haymakers that Bruno will counter and take him out with. Of course, if Tommy can land the left hook flush Frank is in trouble.
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BroughtonRulesRefuge
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Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
- Sweet Mother of Mercy, Tommy's best win was over one of the best long jabs in the business, Foreman.dempseyfire wrote: I like Bruno here. Morrison never showed the ability to get past a guy with a good long jab
Geez Scottie, beam the guy aboard so someone can give him a clue.
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witherspoon
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Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
I was thinking the same thing. The question in my mind is : how does 45 year old Foremans jab (25 year old Foreman jab in slo-mo) compare to Bruno's?BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: - Sweet Mother of Mercy, Tommy's best win was over one of the best long jabs in the business, Foreman.
Geez Scottie, beam the guy aboard so someone can give him a clue.
No doubt it was slower, but I would say Foreman uses the punch with more tactical nous. On the other hand, it's not much good against a man prepared to fight going backwards for 12 rounds.
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dempseyfire
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Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote:- Sweet Mother of Mercy, Tommy's best win was over one of the best long jabs in the business, Foreman.dempseyfire wrote: I like Bruno here. Morrison never showed the ability to get past a guy with a good long jab
Geez Scottie, beam the guy aboard so someone can give him a clue.
Foreman's activity level in that fight was that of a frozen mammoth. He didn't fire the jab consistently at all and basically just plodded after a running Morrison eating up the occasional combination. When he actually did throw the jab it landed. Morrison's pathetic 'boxing exibition' he showed vs George would not work at all vs Bruno.
Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
Bruno takes this imo
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jezzamundo
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Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
A good matchup that could go either way, and surely would not go the distance. I think Bruno by mid rounds KO is most likely, followed by Morrison by early rounds KO.
I'll go for Bruno by KO6.
I'll go for Bruno by KO6.
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Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
I don´t think Frank Bruno had a questionable chin; in fact, I´d go as far to say that he had a very good chin.Robinson wrote:Two big hitting, questionable chinned men. Both exciting and able
to trouble some of the sports tough men;
Lets suppose that the fates saw both these men meet one
another around 1993.
Bruno has yet to face defeat in a close match with Lewis
and Morrison has not lost in a shock upset to Bennt.
Both men are in good shape, know the others power and
assumed vunerablities.
Tommy Morrison comes in at 6'2 and 226lbs of fast hitting
muscles.
Frank Bruno is 6'3 and 235lbs of chiseled british armour.
12 round eliminator for a title shot against Lennox Lewis
or Riddick Bowe.
How do you guys see this one playing out ??
Frank´s problem was his lack of speed, his inability to improvise under pressure & his poor stamina: that´s what led to all his defeats.
He took some thunderous shots on the chin from the likes of Lewis & Tyson & didn´t go down.
When he did go down (Tyson 1) or when he when seriously stunned (Jumbo Cummings), they were shots to the top side of his head.
Bruno -v- Morrison - I see Morrison winning this one.
He´d be too quick for Frank, he´d Left hook the fight out of Frank & either run to take a decision or stop a tiring Frank late on.
Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
It's always a tough call when you have two chins that could collapse at any moment.
Frank Bruno
Bonecrusher,Witherspoon,Tyson [Twice] and Lewis were the only boxers to topple Bruno.
Of those guys,Tyson was the only one that was ahead by some kind of significant margin at the stoppage.
Bruno was doing very well against Smith,Witherspoon and Lewis until things swung around as dramatically as they did.
That said Bruno had the odd win that could quite easily have gone against him,Jumbo Cummings had him all but out on his feet at one point in 83.
When I think of Frank Bruno I think of a very built up physical almost stiff like fighter,stiff as in the sense he couldn't maneuver very well due to the weights he pushed in the gym,still Bruno could hit and flatten many a man.
The 1993 version of Bruno really wasn't that bad,Frank had spent a couple of years inactive post Tyson 1 and didn't start upping the ante untill 1992 with wins over Ribalta and Coetzer.
A follow up victory over Carl Williams in April of 93 was the charge leading call to a shot at the title against Lennox.
The problem was Ribalta,Coetzer and Williams were not seen as super dangerous threats,yes they were accomplished in their own way but they were by no means the cutting edge fighters of the Heavyweight division.
Tommy Morrison
Tommy went 28 on the spin which is an impressive number,Morrison had bought attention but not the respect and many insiders probably felt ill at ease with his ascent.
Sometimes the numbers just don't jive.
Ray Mercer put an end to any questions regarding the beard of Morrison at the high level,even though Tommy was in the fight he fell apart when the big one came crashing down on him.
Only Lennox Lewis and Michael Bentt stopped him after that.
For me Tommy Morrison could have been trained better,they spent more time on him outside the ring than they did in the gym.
Not to say Tommy would have been a world beater but he could have improved,once they marketed and trained him as a banger it was hard to take back what had already been done.
The 1993 version of Tommy Morrison.
Morrison was mugged by Bentt,he didn't see it coming and that could have happend to anyone.
Bentt tried that on against Herbie Hide months later both at a hotel and in a ring and was presented with something altogether different .
Tommy's highlight was against George Foreman when he boxed on the back foot and won a closely fought decision,to think he was only about 24 at that time.
Morrison went on to beat a fading Razor Ruddock in a very entertaining fight late in his career.
Bruno v Morrison 1993 Outcome.
Bruno by mid to late stoppage.
If Morrison came out and performed per the Foreman fight he would cruise it.
Both Tommy and Frank gave us some tremendously entertaining evenings and won't be forgotten.
I don't know about anyone else but the hierarchy of the sport make up the magnitude of boxing stories,the guys they fought sometimes get forgotten.
Robinson's challenge reminds us that the background players are just as important in the big scheme of things.
Frank Bruno
Bonecrusher,Witherspoon,Tyson [Twice] and Lewis were the only boxers to topple Bruno.
Of those guys,Tyson was the only one that was ahead by some kind of significant margin at the stoppage.
Bruno was doing very well against Smith,Witherspoon and Lewis until things swung around as dramatically as they did.
That said Bruno had the odd win that could quite easily have gone against him,Jumbo Cummings had him all but out on his feet at one point in 83.
When I think of Frank Bruno I think of a very built up physical almost stiff like fighter,stiff as in the sense he couldn't maneuver very well due to the weights he pushed in the gym,still Bruno could hit and flatten many a man.
The 1993 version of Bruno really wasn't that bad,Frank had spent a couple of years inactive post Tyson 1 and didn't start upping the ante untill 1992 with wins over Ribalta and Coetzer.
A follow up victory over Carl Williams in April of 93 was the charge leading call to a shot at the title against Lennox.
The problem was Ribalta,Coetzer and Williams were not seen as super dangerous threats,yes they were accomplished in their own way but they were by no means the cutting edge fighters of the Heavyweight division.
Tommy Morrison
Tommy went 28 on the spin which is an impressive number,Morrison had bought attention but not the respect and many insiders probably felt ill at ease with his ascent.
Sometimes the numbers just don't jive.
Ray Mercer put an end to any questions regarding the beard of Morrison at the high level,even though Tommy was in the fight he fell apart when the big one came crashing down on him.
Only Lennox Lewis and Michael Bentt stopped him after that.
For me Tommy Morrison could have been trained better,they spent more time on him outside the ring than they did in the gym.
Not to say Tommy would have been a world beater but he could have improved,once they marketed and trained him as a banger it was hard to take back what had already been done.
The 1993 version of Tommy Morrison.
Morrison was mugged by Bentt,he didn't see it coming and that could have happend to anyone.
Bentt tried that on against Herbie Hide months later both at a hotel and in a ring and was presented with something altogether different .
Tommy's highlight was against George Foreman when he boxed on the back foot and won a closely fought decision,to think he was only about 24 at that time.
Morrison went on to beat a fading Razor Ruddock in a very entertaining fight late in his career.
Bruno v Morrison 1993 Outcome.
Bruno by mid to late stoppage.
If Morrison came out and performed per the Foreman fight he would cruise it.
Both Tommy and Frank gave us some tremendously entertaining evenings and won't be forgotten.
I don't know about anyone else but the hierarchy of the sport make up the magnitude of boxing stories,the guys they fought sometimes get forgotten.
Robinson's challenge reminds us that the background players are just as important in the big scheme of things.
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oliverfennell
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Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
Wasn't this actually supposed to have happened in 1993 or 94, in a Hong Kong card that was aborted? Herbie Hide-Ray Mercer also on the card, as well as Billy Schwer. Or was it Bruno-Mercer/Hide-Morrison?
Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
It was supposed to be Bruno-Mercer, with Rafael Ruelas-Billy Schwer on the same card but it collapsed over money a couple of days before fight time. John Daly, the guy who helped bankroll the Ali-Foreman fight was involved in the promotion, as was Bob Arum.oliverfennell wrote:Wasn't this actually supposed to have happened in 1993 or 94, in a Hong Kong card that was aborted? Herbie Hide-Ray Mercer also on the card, as well as Billy Schwer. Or was it Bruno-Mercer/Hide-Morrison?
Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
As for the fight I'd fancy Big Frank to bust Morrison up with the jab and stop him sometime around the 7th.
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Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
Yes, I remember it vaguely. Bruno-Mercer would have been interesting. I think at the time Bruno was slightly favoured, but with hindsight it would have been the other way around, though. But as ever it would depend which Mercer showed up - the one who whipped Morrison and pushed Holyfield and Lewis hard, or the one who flunked against Ferguson and Wilson.Flump wrote:It was supposed to be Bruno-Mercer, with Rafael Ruelas-Billy Schwer on the same card but it collapsed over money a couple of days before fight time. John Daly, the guy who helped bankroll the Ali-Foreman fight was involved in the promotion, as was Bob Arum.oliverfennell wrote:Wasn't this actually supposed to have happened in 1993 or 94, in a Hong Kong card that was aborted? Herbie Hide-Ray Mercer also on the card, as well as Billy Schwer. Or was it Bruno-Mercer/Hide-Morrison?
Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
not competitive. bruno better skills, he would counter that hook (one of best in any era) with right. morrison would have to watch replay to see what happened.
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BroughtonRulesRefuge
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Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
- Oh, really? Does Bruno have any win to match a shutout of Big George? Does anyone believe Bruno would have a ghost of a chance against Foreman?tennessee wrote:not competitive. bruno better skills, he would counter that hook (one of best in any era) with right. morrison would have to watch replay to see what happened.
Didn't think so. Nor can he match Tommy's 48-3-1, 80% KO ratio.
That being said, it's obvious these guys generally have very similar style wins and would split any series something along 50/50. Anyone who thinks they can definitively chose between them needs to get another brand of koolaide.
I'd favor the much quicker starting, faster handed Tommy, but in a fight like this, first good shot wins and both vulnerable.
Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
This to me would be a damned fun fight.
Mercer vs Bruno would have been a damned
good fight.
Mercer vs Bruno would have been a damned
good fight.
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Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
I can Mercer winning that one with a spectacular KO. Fun while it would last though.Robinson wrote:This to me would be a damned fun fight.
Mercer vs Bruno would have been a damned
good fight.
Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
I think you are right TF. I can see Bruno leading and looking great,
and then Mercer turning it all around. I think Mercer, unlike McCall
would be able to land that telling and hard blow with a degree of
more desperation. Maybe KO for Mercer in the 8th or so.
and then Mercer turning it all around. I think Mercer, unlike McCall
would be able to land that telling and hard blow with a degree of
more desperation. Maybe KO for Mercer in the 8th or so.
Re: Frank Bruno Vs Tommy Morrison 1993
I think that Morrison and his win over Foreman did not merit so much attetntion after the victory...beating Foreman who was so old at the time should not have been a problem for anyone who had legitimate skills and youth on their side...that being said Morrison was fun to watch but not in this fight as many have said he ran and refused to engage a lot..it was the smart way to fight George