Ray Hatton Speaks

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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 31,00.html

Ricky Hatton's father has said that his son's preparations for his fight with Manny Pacquiao were so chaotic he should have withdrawn from the contest.

Hatton was knocked out by the Filipino in round two their Las Vegas contest, with rumours of unrest within the Mancunian's training camp leading up to the fight.

They centred around a deteriorating relationship with trainer Floyd Mayweather Sr whom, it was reported, consistently arrived late for training and failed to turn up on the night of the fight itself until Hatton was having his hands bandaged.

Now Ray Hatton has told Setanta Sports he believes that, with hindsight, his son should not have climbed into the ring with Pacquiao at all.

"It could have been a lot, lot better - massively better. I'm very disappointed with some of the things that I heard," he said.

"I'm also very disappointed in some of the things I personally saw. I had reservations early on. It wasn't ideal by any means.

"I'm not making excuses about the performance because I wouldn't do that but I think the fans know Ricky Hatton and they know what we're all about.

"In hindsight, if the truth be known, he probably would have been as well making this the first fight he had pulled out of."

Fan loyalty
Hatton Sr insisted the only reason his son fought was out of loyalty to his fans, of whom an estimated 10,000 travelled to Nevada.

"Ricky's had 47 fights and when has anybody had their money back because the fight's been called off?" he added.

"That shows what Ricky's all about. He's never pulled out of a fight, never disappointed the fans.

"But, when you've got people travelling thousands of miles, you've got to think of them. It doesn't take anything away from Manny.

"He's a great, great fighter but, for me, personally, that wasn't my son in that ring."


Sounds like a list of excuses to me. Also judging from this it looks like he wants Ricky to continue? Good ol Rick, 'doing it for the fans'

[Syntax Error]

Excuses, excuses, excuses!

I wonder if Floyd Mayweather turning up late would have been mentioned if Ricky had actually won the fight?

Team Hatton just need to accept that Ricky got slaughtered by the better man; a future ATG in the making.

Ricky is not in Manny´s league & he must realise that now.

[Twinkle Toes]

Not going to comment on the excuses, because it's the usual thing to expect to hear after a fighter has lost.

However, that is a fair comment about Hatton never pulling out of a fight - I can't recall that ever happening.

[saad muhammad]

You can't tell me fighters don't argue
with their trainers, it's a hard slog.
If fights got called off when there was
a little bust up there wouldn't be any
fights taking place.
Illness or injuries postpone fights, not arguements.
Last time it was joe cortez who wouldn't let him do
his usuall holding and hitting tacticts to beat mayweather
and now more excuses.
Good champion Hatton but not top notch, get over it.

[twenty six]

To be honest the whole of the team is best clamming up.
It's become a farce because in truth, they are now starting to contradict each other.
If Ray is correct - why no such comment from Lee Beard for example.
Not pulling out of course had nothing to do with his pay cheque - just for the fans - yeah right.
This could have all been avoided at the outset if Ricky had come out, given Manny the big licks, then sorted out the internal issues behind closed doors.
Instead, what did he do ?
Have a poolside party, and refuse to speak.
The whole camp's PR of late has been a disaster.
We have a saying, me and the mates, when we're away with the boxing.
What happens on the mile, stays on the mile - from the film, The Green Mile.
Even jobbing boxers adopt this, when it comes to what has happened in the gym, particularly sparring.
The whole set up and the individuals involved need to take a rain check.
Maybe, and sadly, the lot of them have got too big for their own boots.
This reminds me so much of the Naseem Hamed story, it's spooky.

[forcefraser]

First time around it was the referee, this time it was the training camp. Why not just admit the truth.

He was beaten by guys who were clearly better than him, both times.

If you cannot get a camp right for such a fight, then what hope is there??? The biggest fight of his career (arguably) and they claim that they messed up so much in the build up that he should have been pulled out??

Let`s face facts here. He was well beaten by Mayweather, he was less than impressive against Lazcano, he fought well against Maliganni and was then blown away by Pacquiao. Get over it.

[Deserter]

To be honest the whole of the team is best clamming up.
It's become a farce because in truth, they are now starting to contradict each other.
If Ray is correct - why no such comment from Lee Beard for example.
Not pulling out of course had nothing to do with his pay cheque - just for the fans - yeah right.
This could have all been avoided at the outset if Ricky had come out, given Manny the big licks, then sorted out the internal issues behind closed doors.
Instead, what did he do ?
Have a poolside party, and refuse to speak.
The whole camp's PR of late has been a disaster.
We have a saying, me and the mates, when we're away with the boxing.
What happens on the mile, stays on the mile - from the film, The Green Mile.
Even jobbing boxers adopt this, when it comes to what has happened in the gym, particularly sparring.
The whole set up and the individuals involved need to take a rain check.
Maybe, and sadly, the lot of them have got too big for their own boots.
This reminds me so much of the Naseem Hamed story, it's spooky.

Exactly right on all counts.

[dbf]

First time around it was the referee, this time it was the training camp. Why not just admit the truth.

He was beaten by guys who were clearly better than him, both times.

If you cannot get a camp right for such a fight, then what hope is there??? The biggest fight of his career (arguably) and they claim that they messed up so much in the build up that he should have been pulled out??

Let`s face facts here. He was well beaten by Mayweather, he was less than impressive against Lazcano, he fought well against Maliganni and was then blown away by Pacquiao. Get over it.

There has now been an excuse for every fight since Tszyu bar maybe Castillo and Malignaggi.

Maussa - Contractual problems
Collazo - Short notice, did the weight wrong
Urango - Chest infection
Mayweather - Ref
Lazcano - Cold/virus
Pac - take your pick

Its a joke as there is always an excuse.

[n1ebf]

there's no doubt in my mind that if Floyd Senior had got there 15 minutes earlier Ricky would have at worst lost on points. You'd have to be plain nuts not to think that.................yeah right!
He was fighting a Lazcano type of fight versus a very NOT-Lazcano type of fighter.

[Poncey]

To be honest the whole of the team is best clamming up.
It's become a farce because in truth, they are now starting to contradict each other.
If Ray is correct - why no such comment from Lee Beard for example.
Not pulling out of course had nothing to do with his pay cheque - just for the fans - yeah right.
This could have all been avoided at the outset if Ricky had come out, given Manny the big licks, then sorted out the internal issues behind closed doors.
Instead, what did he do ?
Have a poolside party, and refuse to speak.
The whole camp's PR of late has been a disaster.
We have a saying, me and the mates, when we're away with the boxing.
What happens on the mile, stays on the mile - from the film, The Green Mile.
Even jobbing boxers adopt this, when it comes to what has happened in the gym, particularly sparring.
The whole set up and the individuals involved need to take a rain check.
Maybe, and sadly, the lot of them have got too big for their own boots.
This reminds me so much of the Naseem Hamed story, it's spooky.

Exactly right on all counts.

x3

[DavidPayne]

Oh yes Raith Hatton......exactly the same, big sponsorship, big noise, dumped trainer, dumped promoter, ebbing performances............

Multi-millionaire at thirty.

Must have done sommet right.

But the similarities are obvious.

[Carbo]

Oh yes Raith Hatton......exactly the same, big sponsorship, big noise, dumped trainer, dumped promoter, ebbing performances............

Multi-millionaire at thirty.

Must have done sommet right.

But the similarities are obvious.

Yup. Ray Hatton -- jeez, that interview makes him sound bush-league. Which he is.

Comepltely clueless, by the sound of that.

[Carbo]

You can't tell me fighters don't argue
with their trainers, it's a hard slog.
If fights got called off when there was
a little bust up there wouldn't be any
fights taking place.
Illness or injuries postpone fights, not arguements.
Last time it was joe cortez who wouldn't let him do
his usuall holding and hitting tacticts to beat mayweather
and now more excuses.
Good champion Hatton but not top notch, get over it.

Your poetry is beautiful.

Really.

[winkveron]

Title of his thread should've been 'Ray Hatton Speaks Sh!t!'

[sweetscience]

Stick too selling carpets Ray

[J]

even as a staunch hatton fan over the years this is starting to stick in my craw.

So you dump you trusted old time trainer, hire a new one, let the new a trainer slag off your long time friend, hail him as a fistic genius after the Paulie fight, then moan when he doesnt do exactly as you wish?

So who's fornicating decision was it to dump the orgninal trainer? So whos fault is it overall? Team hattons.

You decided you didnt want the devil you know dumped him like an unwanted dog after xmas and now you have the gall to moan about the new trainer.

Piss off, you made the decision so you have to live with that decision no excuses.

Sorry but this is starting to tarnish what has been a great career.

Retire please ricky so at least we wont have to listen to your prick of a father make any more bleating b.s. excuses.

[Srebmun]

Not pulling out of course had nothing to do with his pay cheque - just for the fans - yeah right.

I wonder if Hatton knew he wasn't ready, took the money, purposely left himself open and was looking to get knocked out early.

Not taking anything away from Manny, no way - but Hatton had nothing in that fight.

[metropol]

Not pulling out of course had nothing to do with his pay cheque - just for the fans - yeah right.

I wonder if Hatton knew he wasn't ready, took the money, purposely left himself open and was looking to get knocked out early.

Not taking anything away from Manny, no way - but Hatton had nothing in that fight.

I know hatton isnt too bright but thats just unbelievable

[MR UNTOUCHABLE]

I think some of you are going a bit OTT.

Ricky just got caught early & didn't / couldn't recover.

It's just how it is lads!

[Srebmun]

I think some of you are going a bit OTT.

Ricky just got caught early & didn't / couldn't recover.

It's just how it is lads!

I totally agree.

When I read Twenty Six's comment about the money I thought for a split second, what if! afterall, stranger things have happened.

[Matt Teague]

Excuses, excuses, excuses!

I wonder if Floyd Mayweather turning up late would have been mentioned if Ricky had actually won the fight?

Team Hatton just need to accept that Ricky got slaughtered by the better man; a future ATG in the making.

Ricky is not in Manny´s league & he must realise that now.

Totally agree, well said

[DG.]

"I'm not making excuses about the performance because I wouldn't do that but I think the fans know Ricky Hatton and they know what we're all about.

MONEY!

Thats all you are about.

Yes, we know you lot are a bunch of greedy contradciting piss artists.


Jokers!

[DG.]

There has now been an excuse for every fight since Tszyu bar maybe Castillo and Malignaggi.

Maussa - Contractual problems
Collazo - Short notice, did the weight wrong
Urango - Chest infection
Mayweather - Ref
Lazcano - Cold/virus
Pac - take your pick

Its a joke as there is always an excuse.

Let's have an artivcle in Boxing News titled.

'Shut it - you lost'

[dbf]

There has now been an excuse for every fight since Tszyu bar maybe Castillo and Malignaggi.

Maussa - Contractual problems
Collazo - Short notice, did the weight wrong
Urango - Chest infection
Mayweather - Ref
Lazcano - Cold/virus
Pac - take your pick

Its a joke as there is always an excuse.

Let's have an artivcle in Boxing News titled.

'Shut it - you lost'

I agree. But just to confirm and avoid confusion, I am dbf not dbflex of boxing news.

[hitman_hatton1]

hiring floyd mayweather sr was always gonna end in a mess.

i was well surprised when it got announced.

mayweather is being paid to do a job and not turn up when he feels like it.

unprofessional cockend that man is.