You're right - but what the hell did he take him to the doctor for at that point when he was totally dominant? I'm sure there are other examples but it's the only time I can remember a figher being rescued from GIVING too much punishment.NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:the referee took the call from the 80k a year ringside Doc.
Rogan guessed at 2 fingers with his swollen eye....it was 3!! What could the ref do? If Rogan gets fcked up there of the 17st plus Sexton, what happens then after he's been allowed to go on blind in one eye?
Dave Parris tonight.
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Last week John McDermott got one taken off him by big Terry O'Connor. I think it was for excessive holding.WayoftheCass wrote:In fairness no ref ever does. John Ruiz has got away with it for his whole career and Skelton is bad for it to but how many points deductions? Not many if indeed any.brian13 wrote:That was a disgraceful perfomance and he is the so called strictest ref in Britain and he didn't give Sexton a points deduction for very excessive clinching.
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Sexton is out on his feet shipping all loads of punishment and the ref decides Rogan is in danger because he can't see?jonny wrote:Tell you what, you guys talk the biggest load of bollocks i have ever heard. Parris did a good job tonight and the right time to stop the fight. Rogan had no vision out of that eye what-so-ever and a bang on call from the ref and Doc. Good fight, Good reffing, good stoppage.
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yiddo14
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Re: Dave Parris tonight.
Spot on.knightster wrote:It wasn't a great performance by Parris, but still Rogan had the chance to finish him and didn't take it. The doctor had seen him a couple of times and so he knew he was on borrowed time and he should have stopped Sexton. No matter how much of an off night Parris had, Rogan cost himself the victory.
Rogan should have finished the job when he had the chance.
Sexton was standing there, not defending himself, which is a cardinal sin and 99% of the time would lead to you taking a shot(one shot was all Rogan needed at the time seeing as Sexton was in trouble)
Few sour grapes, from both Rogan and his fans on here it seems.
I certainly think he should be given another shot at Sexton though.
It was an intriguing fight and shaping up nicely. Sexton impressed at times.
Incidently, I think Sexton would havemade the end of the round.
Either way, Rogan's eye was in a terrible state and when you wrongly guess how many fingers the ringside doc is showing you then you should not carry on.
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slapbangwhallop
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Re: Dave Parris tonight.
Bang on - what danger is Rogan in if he wasnt taking any shots and had Sexton on the verge of being out of there.Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Sexton is out on his feet shipping all loads of punishment and the ref decides Rogan is in danger because he can't see?jonny wrote:Tell you what, you guys talk the biggest load of bollocks i have ever heard. Parris did a good job tonight and the right time to stop the fight. Rogan had no vision out of that eye what-so-ever and a bang on call from the ref and Doc. Good fight, Good reffing, good stoppage.
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yiddo14
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Re: Dave Parris tonight.
Parris didn't cover himself in glory, I'm sure we can all agree on that, but the most important part of your post is the things you LEFT out. Sexton standing there, not defending himself, almost waiting to get knocked out and Rogan does nothing. What about the time in between your highlights? If Sexton was so ready to be taken out why didn't Rogan finish the job?sligobhoy67 wrote:Parris splits them in the sixth with two minutes to go when they are not holding and Rogan was unloading on Sexton and has him in the corner.
2.48 to go in the 8th - Rogan rocks Sexton, Sexton turns his back and hides/shields his head at the turnbuckle. Rogan keeps throwing and glances off his shoulder and catches him with a left hook/uppercut. Parris calls a time out and admonishes Rogan for hitting on the back of the head. This rewards Sexton for turning and hiding in the ring and gives him time to recover.
again at 1.16 to go, Parris gets involve to stop the action unecessarily when Rogan is pushing forward again.
With 1.00 to go Sexton spits his gumshield out and gets another break, Sexton then continues to clinch and hold - all let slide by Parris.
0.22 Rogan catches him with an uppercut and Sexton is going backwards and holds on for dear life - 17 seconds to go when Sexton it finished and its all Rogan then Parris stops the fight and bring Rogan to the doctor.
I'm still seething!!
Rogan took it with such class - I beat Magee wasnt a calm!
The eye means there must be a rematch, but Sexton was winning the fight and Rogan simply didn't take his chances(biggest chance being the one I mentioned above when Sexton was standing there defenceless!)
The Sportsmanship thing is admirable I guess, but this is Boxing. It's a brutal, ruthless sport and he let his opportunity slip.
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slapbangwhallop
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Re: Dave Parris tonight.
I agree that Rogie should have taken things into his own hands and finished the fight himself whilst he had the chance.yiddo14 wrote:Parris didn't cover himself in glory, I'm sure we can all agree on that, but the most important part of your post is the things you LEFT out. Sexton standing there, not defending himself, almost waiting to get knocked out and Rogan does nothing. What about the time in between your highlights? If Sexton was so ready to be taken out why didn't Rogan finish the job?sligobhoy67 wrote:Parris splits them in the sixth with two minutes to go when they are not holding and Rogan was unloading on Sexton and has him in the corner.
2.48 to go in the 8th - Rogan rocks Sexton, Sexton turns his back and hides/shields his head at the turnbuckle. Rogan keeps throwing and glances off his shoulder and catches him with a left hook/uppercut. Parris calls a time out and admonishes Rogan for hitting on the back of the head. This rewards Sexton for turning and hiding in the ring and gives him time to recover.
again at 1.16 to go, Parris gets involve to stop the action unecessarily when Rogan is pushing forward again.
With 1.00 to go Sexton spits his gumshield out and gets another break, Sexton then continues to clinch and hold - all let slide by Parris.
0.22 Rogan catches him with an uppercut and Sexton is going backwards and holds on for dear life - 17 seconds to go when Sexton it finished and its all Rogan then Parris stops the fight and bring Rogan to the doctor.
I'm still seething!!
Rogan took it with such class - I beat Magee wasnt a calm!
The eye means there must be a rematch, but Sexton was winning the fight and Rogan simply didn't take his chances(biggest chance being the one I mentioned above when Sexton was standing there defenceless!)
The Sportsmanship thing is admirable I guess, but this is Boxing. It's a brutal, ruthless sport and he let his opportunity slip.
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Bard of Boxrec
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Re: Dave Parris tonight.
seems like Parris got confused about which was the FW fighter.
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Typical bad performance
Remember this is the bloke who can't tell the difference between a bodyshot and a low blow.
Remember this is the bloke who can't tell the difference between a bodyshot and a low blow.
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x2Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Sexton is out on his feet shipping all loads of punishment and the ref decides Rogan is in danger because he can't see?jonny wrote:Tell you what, you guys talk the biggest load of bollocks i have ever heard. Parris did a good job tonight and the right time to stop the fight. Rogan had no vision out of that eye what-so-ever and a bang on call from the ref and Doc. Good fight, Good reffing, good stoppage.
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he is from norwich, someone will have to read it for him !!! ....NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:it looked to me like Rogan chose to stand off, at least for a few seconds before any intervention.Coco wrote:The whole point was Sexton was gone, Rogan was on the verge of winning when Parris dragged The Irishman off Sam to stop it. He should have at least let it go to the end of the round
Sexton though didn't have a fckin clue. His hands were DOWN and nothing to do with the ref at all. He was just waiting to get taken out!! Even the commentator (what do they know lol) said that Sexton was just waiting to be stopped.
If Rogie jumps in there and throws leather, he's still C'wealth Champ, and Sexton gets laid out, potentially a-la Ricky Hatton, except it's worse at Heavyweight......Rogan was very sporting in my book and whatever the result that shouldn't be detracted from. However this is boxing. Sexton was very lucky.
He OWES Rogan a Rematch and I think he will see that when he gets home, reads my post, and offers him one
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Rogan had the chance to stop him but as Jim Watt said he showed too much sportsmanship for his own good. Sexton was gone, hands down just waiting to be taken out - Rogan didn't have the heart to do it and looked to the ref to stop the fight.I think the moral of the story is never wait for the ref to intervene and get the job done yourself!
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Although I thought Dave Parris had an off night, I also agree with those who say Rogie should have gone for it when he had the chance. Sexton was clever.
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dave parris is an ar$3hole.
Re: Dave Parris tonight.
Parris has been having a few off nights recently.Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Although I thought Dave Parris had an off night, I also agree with those who say Rogie should have gone for it when he had the chance. Sexton was clever.
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I take back the stupid comments I posted last night too much drink and a little wound up, and i appologies to anyone that I may have offended especially 'wayofthecass'.
I still think it was a good fight and the stoppage was correct.
I think Rogan had the chance to stop Sexton but blew it by holding off him when the gum shield came out, Sexton was there for the taking and I'm sure had he landed a couple more shots the ref would have had to jump in, Only himself to blame for that and I'm sure after watching it back he will be beating himself up over it.
I still think it was a good fight and the stoppage was correct.
I think Rogan had the chance to stop Sexton but blew it by holding off him when the gum shield came out, Sexton was there for the taking and I'm sure had he landed a couple more shots the ref would have had to jump in, Only himself to blame for that and I'm sure after watching it back he will be beating himself up over it.
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alexpaterson
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Re: Dave Parris tonight.
The docter stopped the fight the worst thing Parris did tonight was when Sexton turned around and Rogan kept punching he gave Rogan a talking to about punching the back when i think Sexton should have been blamed for turning around i think the fight should have been stopped in the last round Sexton had nothing left he wasnt even looking at Rogan at the end
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Didn't do allot wrong imo, Rogan showed his inexperiance big time that is what cost him
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WayoftheCass
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Re: Dave Parris tonight.
No offense taken.jonny wrote:I take back the stupid comments I posted last night too much drink and a little wound up, and i appologies to anyone that I may have offended especially 'wayofthecass'.
I still think it was a good fight and the stoppage was correct.
I think Rogan had the chance to stop Sexton but blew it by holding off him when the gum shield came out, Sexton was there for the taking and I'm sure had he landed a couple more shots the ref would have had to jump in, Only himself to blame for that and I'm sure after watching it back he will be beating himself up over it.
I guess thats the difference between the British and General forums. On here I have noticed people apologising for heat of the moment behavior. On the general its just unrelenting at times. Guys slagging of your mother and threatening to 'Pop a cap in yow a$$'......at 2pm on a Monday afternoon. Haven't been in there for a while now but it was getting absurd at one point.
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WayoftheCass
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Re: Dave Parris tonight.
Fair enough mate but that moment that he pulled Rogan off for the invisible rabbit punch when Sexton had turned his back on the action from the punishment he was taking and was cowering into the corner had me up jumping off the couch. I just can't fathom how he would explain that. I don't think any one in their right mind disputes that A) The fight should have been ended due to that injury and indeed could have been a round earlier B) Rogan blew a fantastic chance born out of a moment of madness (I think he literally forgot where he was) and confusion.U.F.O wrote:Didn't do allot wrong imo, Rogan showed his inexperiance big time that is what cost him
I just think thats the point. In the 8th round confusion rained. A few times the action was either broken up inexplicably or the fighters weren't sure whether to fight or stop. For my money Parris lost control and it appears to be the overwhelming opinion of fans and non fans of Rogan alike.
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yiddo14
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[quote="jonny"]I take back the stupid comments I posted last night too much drink and a little wound up, and i appologies to anyone that I may have offended especially 'wayofthecass'.quote]
Think we have all been there!
Think we have all been there!