Matt Skelton

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 09 Aug 2004, 16:02

Any news about when, where and who the guy is fighting next. I didn't like is lack of respect for Francis but apart from that the guy has been a breath of fresh air in terms of ambition and doing things the right way.

However, with the Cole fight off and now Harrison not likely to feature I do worry that he may start to stagnate. He needs to stay busy.

Any ideas on who he should fight next, I like the idea of Ross Purity, but I would still accept Keith Long as he really should concentrate on obtaining the title outright, for financial stability if nothing else.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 09 Aug 2004, 16:54

The last thing he needs with his problem with opponents pulling out is to set up a fight with Keith Long.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 10 Aug 2004, 03:43

Tomasz Bonin

Chambers · Post by **Chambers** » 10 Aug 2004, 04:25

I can't think of a worse fight to watch then Skelton Vs Long, it will be a British Rahman-Ruiz

Foggy · Post by **Foggy** » 10 Aug 2004, 07:48

Why not Herbie Hide, Herbie wanted a domestic clash with Williams, that looks highly unlikely now, so why not face Skelton.

J · Post by J » 10 Aug 2004, 07:54

Foggy wrote:Why not Herbie Hide, Herbie wanted a domestic clash with Williams, that looks highly unlikely now, so why not face Skelton.

cos my firend herbie probably wont box again.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Aug 2004, 07:57

Sure, Herbie 'wanted' that fight, until Danny actually called his bluff, then he shite his kecks. Can anyone remember what reason Herbie gave for calling it off?

Foggy · Post by **Foggy** » 10 Aug 2004, 08:05

Herbie picked up a bad cut in his last fight, was that the reason Hide V's Williams felll through

J · Post by J » 10 Aug 2004, 08:08

crap.

he was trying to make money off the back of the publicity that Audley harrison was geting at the time. (Ironic given recent attempts by Aud to do same with DW)

that why he hired crocodile.

Hides finished. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Wilko · Post by **Wilko** » 10 Aug 2004, 08:31

The headline on FrankWarrent.tv is that Skelton will fight Long on October 9th at the Excel Arena in Docklands. Danny Williams is headlining against "a top opponent".

jameswilson · Post by **jameswilson** » 10 Aug 2004, 09:07

Wilko wrote:The headline on FrankWarrent.tv is that Skelton will fight Long on October 9th at the Excel Arena in Docklands. Danny Williams is headlining against "a top opponent".

Kandelaki for Williams then.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 10 Aug 2004, 09:22

jameswilson wrote:
Wilko wrote:The headline on FrankWarrent.tv is that Skelton will fight Long on October 9th at the Excel Arena in Docklands. Danny Williams is headlining against "a top opponent".
Kandelaki for Williams then.

Bloody ridiculous, as usual. Williams should be fighting Skelton, plain and simple. By virtue of losing to Sprott who lost to Skelton he is only the No 3 Heavyweight in Britain (4th if you rate Audley ahead), despite winning the lottery by being in the right place at the right time against Tyson.

glittermonkey · Post by **glittermonkey** » 10 Aug 2004, 09:48

I'd like to see Skelton in with a decent European instead of Long. This isn't a fight that appeals to me in the slightest, and i'd much rather Skelton raised his ranking with a view to a future shot at the European title. He doesn't exactly have time on his side, and Long for me represents a backward step.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Aug 2004, 10:22

Goz wrote:
jameswilson wrote:
Wilko wrote:The headline on FrankWarrent.tv is that Skelton will fight Long on October 9th at the Excel Arena in Docklands. Danny Williams is headlining against "a top opponent".
Kandelaki for Williams then.
Bloody ridiculous, as usual. Williams should be fighting Skelton, plain and simple. By virtue of losing to Sprott who lost to Skelton he is only the No 3 Heavyweight in Britain (4th if you rate Audley ahead), despite winning the lottery by being in the right place at the right time against Tyson.

In a word: BOLLOCKS

It makes no economic sense to pit a fighter who is now internationally famous for retiring Tyson from top flight boxing, against someone who isn't known outside of the UK. Christ, you'd never make it as a promoter. Williams is now a couple of fights from a world title shot if he plays his cards right. Skelton is still a long way off that.

Why would any promoter risk putting Danny in with someone who in world terms is a couple of steps down the ladder at this stage. If they are going to fight, do it in 2-3 fights if at all. Danny could theoretically at least be world champion in 6 months, Skelton won't be anywhere near that by then.

Say what you want about Tyson, but in order to 'win the lottery' as you put it, you have to 'buy a ticket' as they say. It's all well and good saying that Tyson was past it, but do you think Audley, Skelton or Keith long would have done that to Mike, not on your nelly they wouldn't.

Tyson has only ever been beaten by guys who brought heat to bear on him, and whilst SKelton is tough, he wouldn't have had the same level of skill and punching technique as Danny.

Danny made Tyson shot, because for the first 3 rounds, until Danny cut him and started hammering him with some hard counters, he looked as good as he had done in years. Sure he was a lot slower than his heyday, but christ, who isn't at 38?

knockout artist · Post by **knockout artist** » 10 Aug 2004, 10:25

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Goz wrote:
jameswilson wrote: Kandelaki for Williams then.
Bloody ridiculous, as usual. Williams should be fighting Skelton, plain and simple. By virtue of losing to Sprott who lost to Skelton he is only the No 3 Heavyweight in Britain (4th if you rate Audley ahead), despite winning the lottery by being in the right place at the right time against Tyson.
In a word: BOLLOCKS

It makes no economic sense to pit a fighter who is now internationally famous for retiring Tyson from top flight boxing, against someone who isn't known outside of the UK. Christ, you'd never make it as a promoter. Williams is now a couple of fights from a world title shot if he plays his cards right. Skelton is still a long way off that.

Why would any promoter risk putting Danny in with someone who in world terms is a couple of steps down the ladder at this stage. If they are going to fight, do it in 2-3 fights if at all. Danny could theoretically at least be world champion in 6 months, Skelton won't be anywhere near that by then.

Say what you want about Tyson, but in order to 'win the lottery' as you put it, you have to 'buy a ticket' as they say. It's all well and good saying that Tyson was past it, but do you think Audley, Skelton or Keith long would have done that to Mike, not on your nelly they wouldn't.

Tyson has only ever been beaten by guys who brought heat to bear on him, and whilst SKelton is tough, he wouldn't have had the same level of skill and punching technique as Danny.

Danny made Tyson shot, because for the first 3 rounds, until Danny cut him and started hammering him with some hard counters, he looked as good as he had done in years. Sure he was a lot slower than his heyday, but christ, who isn't at 38?

Matt Skelton makes the most of what he's got. I tip my hat to him. But he dont belong in the same ring as the Williams that beat Tyson the other week.

J · Post by J » 10 Aug 2004, 11:08

fornicate ME IS THIS SERIOUS?
are they seriously matching williams with kandleai?

its boxing suicide, Whats going on?
Sorry I dont believe this, both match ups are a wind up.

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 10 Aug 2004, 11:10

J wrote:fornicate ME IS THIS SERIOUS?
are they seriously matching williams with kandleai?

its boxing suicide, Whats going on?
Sorry I dont believe this, both match ups are a wind up.

Skelton-Long is no wind-up. It's official.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Aug 2004, 11:10

Why are you calling it suicide? You think he's going to turn in another of those sub-par performances?

J · Post by J » 10 Aug 2004, 11:15

no the other way round mate, all to lose nothing to gain.
i mean why bother risking it.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Aug 2004, 11:17

Tune-up whilst negotiating? I think it's a good idea to keep Danny busy whislt he's on a high, sitting around doing fornicate all is not the best way to capitalise on success, especially for someone whose mind wanders like Danny's.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 10 Aug 2004, 11:20

Fighting Holyfield would do far more for him than Georg Khandelki.

Nonsense.

Long v Skelton - so what odds on a Long withdrawal. 1/50?

J · Post by J » 10 Aug 2004, 11:20

fornicate me he only fought last week, hardly inactive is it.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 10 Aug 2004, 11:23

DavidPayne wrote:Fighting Holyfield would do far more for him than Georg Khandelki.

Nonsense.

Long v Skelton - so what odds on a Long withdrawal. 1/50?

Of course, but you think Holyfield is going to be easy to negotiate with? I very much doubt it, even if he is desperate to get back in the ring.

Goz · Post by **Goz** » 10 Aug 2004, 11:40

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Goz wrote:
jameswilson wrote: Kandelaki for Williams then.
Bloody ridiculous, as usual. Williams should be fighting Skelton, plain and simple. By virtue of losing to Sprott who lost to Skelton he is only the No 3 Heavyweight in Britain (4th if you rate Audley ahead), despite winning the lottery by being in the right place at the right time against Tyson.
In a word: BOLLOCKS

It makes no economic sense to pit a fighter who is now internationally famous for retiring Tyson from top flight boxing, against someone who isn't known outside of the UK. Christ, you'd never make it as a promoter. Williams is now a couple of fights from a world title shot if he plays his cards right. Skelton is still a long way off that.

Why would any promoter risk putting Danny in with someone who in world terms is a couple of steps down the ladder at this stage. If they are going to fight, do it in 2-3 fights if at all. Danny could theoretically at least be world champion in 6 months, Skelton won't be anywhere near that by then.

Say what you want about Tyson, but in order to 'win the lottery' as you put it, you have to 'buy a ticket' as they say. It's all well and good saying that Tyson was past it, but do you think Audley, Skelton or Keith long would have done that to Mike, not on your nelly they wouldn't.

Tyson has only ever been beaten by guys who brought heat to bear on him, and whilst SKelton is tough, he wouldn't have had the same level of skill and punching technique as Danny.

Danny made Tyson shot, because for the first 3 rounds, until Danny cut him and started hammering him with some hard counters, he looked as good as he had done in years. Sure he was a lot slower than his heyday, but christ, who isn't at 38?

I think this just shows how low your/our expectations have become over the years. A perfectly good matchup between our two top Heavyweights is neither being naive nor talking bollocks.

Of course I understand what you are saying and totally understand why the fight will not happen AND why I would not put it on either (were I the promoter of the pair), but it still emphasises why boxing is for a large part of the time, a frustrating sport to follow.

But I'm not an aspiring promoter or allegedly fan, I like watching good boxing matches thus am entitled to complain when I see them both fighting on the same card on Oct 9th.

Do I think Audley or Skelton would have done that to Tyson last Friday? Quite possibly actually.

So there.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 10 Aug 2004, 15:14

Skelton needs to defend his British title - Outside of Harrison who is better than Long - Hide is probably finished, Williams should be looking at better things and we don't want to see Skelton vs Sprott II for a long (no pun) time.

Its his best match up and I predict a tough one for Skelton.