A Good Read - Re "The Man"

[Boxster-Man]

SHANNAN Taylor has severed a 10-year friendship with one-time sparring partner Danny Green, branding the former world champion a "bum" and a "fraud".

Taylor claimed Green would be little more than a punch-drunk pub fighter had he not cashed in on the coat tails of arch rival Anthony Mundine.

Looking to pick a fight with the former WBA light-heavyweight world champion, Taylor also insulted Green's home town of Perth. Green then retaliated by taking a strong swipe at the self-confessed former cocaine addict.

"Danny Green should kiss Anthony Mundine's backside for the rest of his life because if it wasn't for Mundine, he'd still be a bum fighting for $10,000 in pubs and clubs,'' Taylor said.

"Mundine made Danny Green ... the fact is Anthony Mundine has made Danny Green a multi-millionaire.

"If Green won't fight me, I'm happy to fly to that in-bred town of Perth, knock on his door and drag him down to the park. We'll see what happens then. I'm sick and tired of Green bad-mouthing Mundine. History shows `Choc' beat him fair and square.''

Taylor's barbs were met with a stunned silence from Green, who is holidaying with wife Nina and children Chloe and Archie in Fiji.

Green then asked if Taylor had been drinking. When told he was serious, Green said: "It's obvious Shannan has thrown the Bible out the window and is back on the gear.''

But for Taylor to fight Green, he would have to step up from middleweight to light-heavyweight.

"I don't know what fight Danny was watching, but Mundine gave him a boxing lesson,'' Taylor said.

"I went 12 rounds with Anthony myself only a couple of months ago, so if Danny is such a hot shot why won't he fight me?''

[madball1982]

Shanahan is looking for a payday fighting Green. What's the matter Shanahan no more cab drivers to beat up?

[Marlin]

What a farce

[Boxster-Man]

I dont know guys, I think he is right about one thing,

Danny Green should kiss Anthony Mundine's backside for the rest of his life because if it wasn't for Mundine, he'd still be a bum

[Marlin]

You are even more of a farce than Taylor

[Brute]

Taylor has been in a lot of trouble over the years. I have a feeling he is a bit short of money and brain cells.

[Boxster-Man]

Cmon Marlin,
I think we both know Danny Green used to be good back in his day, but since his "Shock Retirement" he has lost all credibillity, he now needs Mundine to boost his image, I mean Green calling Mundine out after his last fight - What a Wanker, The Man has been there, done that AND walked away with the trophy.

[jezzamundo]

Green and Mundine are good boxers both. I have a preference for Green simply because I think he is generally more exciting to watch and is generally a more likeable person than Mundine.

Still, when it comes down to it, I rate Mundine a little higher than Green, simply because he completely outclassed Green in their fight. Aside from their fight, I think Green's credentials are a little better, as he is the only one who has been a full world champion.

Neither Mundine or Green are big names worldwide. Green had the opportunity to become one upon becoming champion. Fights with Tarver, Roy Jones, Dawson and Erdei would have been possibilities, and I would give Green a good chance against any of them. As it was, Green retired after beating a guy who did not put up a fight, and is now very unlikely to challenge for a world title again.

Mundine has been pretty much shooting himself in the foot, as he has not fought anyone world class since Green.

As for how a rematch would go, even at light heavyweight, I still favour Mundine. While Mundine now fights at 160lb, he weighed around 180lb when he played rugby, and probably walked around at about 175lb when fighting at super middleweight. It is a weight that he will grow back into comfortably, while Green admits that it is still a lot of work for him to make light heavyweight as he normally walks around somewhere between 185 and 190lb. Green may have overtrained, peaked early and stuggled to make weight for their first fight, but all that aside, Mundine will always cause him troubles with his speed and evasiveness. I think Mundine (providing he beats Geale) will beat Green by a unanimous decision again, although closer than their first fight.

[toppity]

Cmon Marlin,
I think we both know Danny Green used to be good back in his day, but since his "Shock Retirement" he has lost all credibillity, he now needs Mundine to boost his image, I mean Green calling Mundine out after his last fight - What a Wanker, The Man has been there, done that AND walked away with the trophy.

There was no trophy. That's the real thing that must stick in the craw of the mundine nuthuggers. he has never walked away from the ring with any real world title...."regular" titles just don't cut the mustard. A bit like a regular meal deal at Mcdonalds, nice.... but never fully satisfying. However, the so called bum "Green" earned a legitimate world title. All the talk mundine and his hemriodal supports spew can never change that.

[toppity]

Taylor has been in a lot of trouble over the years. I have a feeling he is a bit short of money and brain cells.

carefull mate or you'll have his missus to answer to.

This is shannon clutching to the last chance of making any money from the sport. After this it will be 'gate keeper' status at best, or worst he will have to look to making a living outside the ring. God help him.

[Hounddawg]

Cmon Marlin,
I think we both know Danny Green used to be good back in his day, but since his "Shock Retirement" he has lost all credibillity, he now needs Mundine to boost his image, I mean Green calling Mundine out after his last fight - What a Wanker, The Man has been there, done that AND walked away with the trophy.

There was no trophy. That's the real thing that must stick in the craw of the mundine nuthuggers. he has never walked away from the ring with any real world title...."regular" titles just don't cut the mustard. A bit like a regular meal deal at Mcdonalds, nice.... but never fully satisfying. However, the so called bum "Green" earned a legitimate world title. All the talk mundine and his hemriodal supports spew can never change that.

I think those educated in the media would agree, NO Green and Mundine wouldn't of had a rival born within his decade, and in all honesty, for Mundine to be successful, there had to be someone the people believed who could knock his dumbass out, Green fit that profile beautifully. NO Green,NO Mundine....No Mundine, No Green. It works both ways they needed each other, but who cares, it bought a lot of people to the sport here in Australia, which for all the shit that came out of Mundine's mouth, was worth it.

If Green fights Taylor, i would be disappointed. Why would you fight Shannon, he's finished, i would have accepted Green v Taylor if it was a warm down fight 2 weeks after Van whatever(forgotten him already).

[Anarchy]

Are we calling Green a "legitimate" world champ? The bloke he fought for the world title, Stipe Drews didn't even throw any punches that fight if you recall correctly. I maybe would've called him a legitimate champ if he defended it a couple of times. But no he retired???
Also this "legitimate" title, was the WBA light-heavyweight title, the same title Mundine held at Super-middleweight

[toppity]

Are we calling Green a "legitimate" world champ? The bloke he fought for the world title, Stipe Drews didn't even throw any punches that fight if you recall correctly. I maybe would've called him a legitimate champ if he defended it a couple of times. But no he retired???
Also this "legitimate" title, was the WBA light-heavyweight title, the same title Mundine held at Super-middleweight

Excellent logic dickhead. Doesn't even warrant a responce.

[amwsnw]

Are we calling Green a "legitimate" world champ? The bloke he fought for the world title, Stipe Drews didn't even throw any punches that fight if you recall correctly. I maybe would've called him a legitimate champ if he defended it a couple of times. But no he retired???
Also this "legitimate" title, was the WBA light-heavyweight title, the same title Mundine held at Super-middleweight

You idiot !!!!! Drews was the legitimate champ. Danny beat the legitimate champ. That makes Green the champ....why am I wasting my time.

[Anarchy]

Cmon Marlin,
I think we both know Danny Green used to be good back in his day, but since his "Shock Retirement" he has lost all credibillity, he now needs Mundine to boost his image, I mean Green calling Mundine out after his last fight - What a Wanker, The Man has been there, done that AND walked away with the trophy.

There was no trophy. That's the real thing that must stick in the craw of the mundine nuthuggers. he has never walked away from the ring with any real world title...."regular" titles just don't cut the mustard. A bit like a regular meal deal at Mcdonalds, nice.... but never fully satisfying. However, the so called bum "Green" earned a legitimate world title. All the talk mundine and his hemriodal supports spew can never change that.

All I'm saying is they held the same title

[vincephillips]

I wouldnt go as far as to say that Green is a bum, but he is definantly not world class and in my opinion never has been. Mundine proved this as did beyer in their second fight. Green has power, but he is a robotic one dimensional fighter and will always struggle with an opponent that gives him angles and wont stand in front of him.

green demolished Beyer in the first fight as Beyer underestimated his power but in the return bout Danny was made to look like an amateur by a far superior and smarter boxer. his one saving grace from the fight was a last round rally and knockdown.

as for saying Shannan only fights cab drivers, i think this is an unfair statement. shannan has had his problems in the past, no-one can deny this but he has constantly fought the best Aus has to offer as well as many world class fighters such as, Abraham, Joval, Wise, Rodriguez and not to mention Shane mosely.

Green on the other hand has fought Beyer and Lucas. i cant see how anyone can rate Dews as world class, yes he held the title and Green beat him fair and square but if you are all honest with yourselves surely you would see that Dews didnt want to be there and was taking one last payday from Green machine promotions.

Danny Green had the opportunity to move on from this win and fight some of the best around, instead he decided to retire to avoid a credable opponent only to come back 16 months later to fight an imposter. 16 months is not a retirement it is a lay off, i have seen fighters wait that long in between bouts due to contract negotiations and the other associated problems in our sport. ie. injury, lack of opponents etc.

Green will continue to duck credible opponents whilst they are in their prime, unlike Taylor who fought mosely in his prime, and wait until Mundine decides to give him another pay day. if the Green Mundine rematch doesnt happen dont expect to see too much from Danny

Green is a good aus boxer and yes he won a world title, something only a very select few can claim but when push comes to shove who has he really fought.

[toppity]

Cmon Marlin,
I think we both know Danny Green used to be good back in his day, but since his "Shock Retirement" he has lost all credibillity, he now needs Mundine to boost his image, I mean Green calling Mundine out after his last fight - What a Wanker, The Man has been there, done that AND walked away with the trophy.

There was no trophy. That's the real thing that must stick in the craw of the mundine nuthuggers. he has never walked away from the ring with any real world title...."regular" titles just don't cut the mustard. A bit like a regular meal deal at Mcdonalds, nice.... but never fully satisfying. However, the so called bum "Green" earned a legitimate world title. All the talk mundine and his hemriodal supports spew can never change that.

All I'm saying is they held the same title

Kessler was ranked super champion, a level above Mundine, when Mundine was regular Champion. When green held his title no other fighter was ranked above him. Green wasn't the WBA regular champion, he was the WBA world champion. Mundine wasn't even ranked No.1 by his own sanctioning body.

[toppity]

I wouldnt go as far as to say that Green is a bum, but he is definantly not world class and in my opinion never has been. Mundine proved this as did beyer in their second fight. Green has power, but he is a robotic one dimensional fighter and will always struggle with an opponent that gives him angles and wont stand in front of him.

green demolished Beyer in the first fight as Beyer underestimated his power but in the return bout Danny was made to look like an amateur by a far superior and smarter boxer. his one saving grace from the fight was a last round rally and knockdown.

as for saying Shannan only fights cab drivers, i think this is an unfair statement. shannan has had his problems in the past, no-one can deny this but he has constantly fought the best Aus has to offer as well as many world class fighters such as, Abraham, Joval, Wise, Rodriguez and not to mention Shane mosely.

Green on the other hand has fought Beyer and Lucas. i cant see how anyone can rate Dews as world class, yes he held the title and Green beat him fair and square but if you are all honest with yourselves surely you would see that Dews didnt want to be there and was taking one last payday from Green machine promotions.

Danny Green had the opportunity to move on from this win and fight some of the best around, instead he decided to retire to avoid a credable opponent only to come back 16 months later to fight an imposter. 16 months is not a retirement it is a lay off, i have seen fighters wait that long in between bouts due to contract negotiations and the other associated problems in our sport. ie. injury, lack of opponents etc.

Green will continue to duck credible opponents whilst they are in their prime, unlike Taylor who fought mosely in his prime, and wait until Mundine decides to give him another pay day. if the Green Mundine rematch doesnt happen dont expect to see too much from Danny

Green is a good aus boxer and yes he won a world title, something only a very select few can claim but when push comes to shove who has he really fought.

Hi Vince. Interesting name to post under in an Aussie boxing forum.

I disagree on your opinion of Green, but you put together a point of view on that subject that has some merit.

With regards to Shannon i disagree. Of course he did fight the names you mentioned with the only creditable win being against Wise....and he was no world beater. Even mentioning Rodriguez shows the talent slips away quickly. The highlight of his career was losing to Taylor. A better example of an Argie Cab driver there has never been.

Shannon's latest attempt to call out another unwarranted payday against green is a discrace. Insulting all of Perth as a means to an end shows his level of desparation.

[vincephillips]

shannan may have gone about calling out danny the wrong way by bagging all his home town, i agree with you there, but atleast he is willing to take on all comers even if he has to climb up in weight, something i dont think danny has done yet. why he had to fly out a bum like his last opponent as a so called warm up i dont know. why couldnt he have fought some of the up and coming aus boxers?

green machine promotions always put on a good card with evenly matched quality fights unlike alot of promotions you see. it is just a shame that the drawcard on the night fights an import that looks physically out of shape and boxes the same way. i am sure that Danny could of found numerous local boys to give him his warm up fight that would have given a much better account of themselves than his chosen opponent did.

[toppity]

shannan may have gone about calling out danny the wrong way by bagging all his home town, i agree with you there, but atleast he is willing to take on all comers even if he has to climb up in weight, something i dont think danny has done yet. why he had to fly out a bum like his last opponent as a so called warm up i dont know. why couldnt he have fought some of the up and coming aus boxers?

green machine promotions always put on a good card with evenly matched quality fights unlike alot of promotions you see. it is just a shame that the drawcard on the night fights an import that looks physically out of shape and boxes the same way. i am sure that Danny could of found numerous local boys to give him his warm up fight that would have given a much better account of themselves than his chosen opponent did.

Green went up in weight and won a world title. He fought some of the best LH's in australia on the way. Jasaon and Murdoch were far from the worst going around.

So he came out of retirememnt and fought a bloke with a 21-6-2 record. there are few chumps before that. Not too bad when you look at what others do. The next couple of fights will show his intentions.

Now lets look at shannon. game, yes....overmatched when stepping up, yes.....fighting scrubs, yes....just look at his last 8 fights and their records. All but one are scrubs.

[toppity]

To keep the Taylor issue balanced i submit this article in found on fight news.com.

so did he dis Perth or what???



By Ray Wheatley — World of Boxing

Former world middleweight challenger Shannan Taylor (48-7-3, 34 KOs) will take a warm up fight against Kiatchai Singwancha (26-6, 16 KOs) at the Wollongong Basketball Stadium, NSW, Australia before a bout with former WBA light heavyweight champion Danny Green which is being tipped to be held in Perth during August. Taylor said, “I’m looking forward to fighting Danny Green in Perth. I have spent a lot of time there training at Craig Christian’s gym. There was a report in a Sydney newspaper on Sunday stating I did not like Perth. That is wrong…I love Perth and the people there. I am confident I can defeat Danny. We have sparred about 100 rounds and I won 90 rounds in my opinion. He wants to get himself into great shape because I will give him the fight of his life.” Taylor lost a twelve round points decision to former WBA super middleweight champion Anthony Mundine in 2009, also a twelve round decision to IBF middleweight champion Arthur Abraham in 2006. In 2001 Shane Mosley stopped Taylor in six rounds of a WBC welterweight bout. Taylor holds KO wins over several world champions including former IBF 140 pound champion Jake Rodriguez and former WBA lightweight champion Livingstone Bramble.

[Marlin]

If they fight a light heavy and it goes past 6 rounds I would be very surprised. If Sugar Shance can spark him at welter imagine what a big punching light heavy can do...